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Why Do Christians Backslide

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Do CHRISTIANS backslide?
---michael_e on 9/22/11

those new creatures in christ can grieve the spirit.

new creatures can die while in deliverance.

can those in the body backslide? if we are all one member of one body, we cannot go in different directions and progress.
---aka on 3/29/12


//But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."//
Endures till the end of the tribulation
---michael_e on 3/29/12


Matthew 24:10_13 "And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."

Who endures? Surely not christ or God for that matter as they are forever. It is people like us micha, who must.
---Nana on 3/28/12


Both answers Francis gave are about unbelief, lack of faith, hence unsaved.
---micha9344 on 3/28/12


Why do Christian people backslide?
---PATRICK on 1/23/06

Here are two simple reasons:
2 Peter 3:4 Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

A: Some people lose hope, and lose faith because Jesus as taken so long to return.


2 Timothy 4:10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world,

B: Some people do prefer this presnt world over the world that is to come.
---francis on 3/27/12




//Why do Christian people backslide?

Our old sin nature is given a fatal blow when we come to know Christ. However, we still have a fleshy body with its demands, bad appetites, sexual or drug addictions, etc. that do not vanish overnight. The body is not born again, only the spirit.

Ro 7:23 but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members.

we need to heed the advice in Roman 12:1-2

...to present [our] bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is [our] spiritual worship. and be not conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that [we[ may discern what is the will of God, ...
---lee1538 on 3/25/12


Hi,family,we have all come short of the glory...yes,I had strayed but,honestly,jesus is my only hope!it's like my daughter ran off but,If she come bk ,she still be loved she's mine.God same with us!he knows his sheep & hears them,receives them.,thank God!
---ELENA on 3/24/12


Sauda, you said,
" When we come to christ we are to stop willful sin not to do it again"
Do you know of any believers who are forced to sin? Doesn't everyone sin willfully? They might regret it later, but at the time no one makes them sin. They accept the temptation willfully. No one puts a gun to their heads.
How about sins of Omission? When you could have help someone poor, or in need and just drove by? You have more then him/her yet you believe they are just out to get your money. You willfully reject to give them money. How about having the time to help in a shelter, yet did not make the time? Did you do it for Christ? We all sin Sauda that's why "all come short of the glory of God".
---Mark_V. on 9/29/11


Because we are carnal and fleshly and we do turn away from the faith and return to willful sin and are in danger of damnation. Heb.6,6 say we crucify him a fresh when we go and come back! When we come to christ we are to stop willful sin not to do it again. If you are living in sin are you saved? Remember Luke13,27 and matt.7,23 Not all church folk will enter in!luke 13,24!
---sauda on 9/28/11


shira4368, many sinners believe that the righteous have warped views of almost everything, and these sinners whom believe the lie of "Once Saved Always Saved" also think that they are brought back to sainthood when in truth they are still lost in sin and not anywhere near being in the hand of the Lord, for they have never truly repented, else they would not be blaspheming Christians as you foolishly do.
---Eloy on 9/28/11




When I was born again, I became a saint of God. Therefore, if I strayed I would be the little lost lamb. My salvation is secure in Jesus Christ. I can never loose it and neither can any man pluck me out of His hand. You have a warped view on almost everything. By the way, I did wander away from God for a time in my life and He brought me back. If we say we have no sin, we are liars.
---shira4368 on 9/28/11


shira4368, There is a big difference between the sinner and the lost saint. That one lost lamb did not choose to leave the shepherd in order to go serve sin, that is the difference between being lost and praying to find your way back, and those who choose to leave Christ in order to go and serve sin and have no desire at all to return back to Jesus- Big difference. The one is condemned, and the other never was but instead cried out for the shepherd to find him.
---Eloy on 9/27/11


Eloy, again you say something that you yourself do. You say, "A believer can leave God and serve sin"
If that is true, which it is, why do you argue you are sinless? You said believers do not sin. The reason you claim to be sineless. So how can a believer leave God and serve sin? you contradict what you yourself believe.
And you said before you were born again twice. Why? Because you know you sinned the first time. So now you are born again again but this time you don't sin you claim. But if you do, you can be born again again. You make many claims and none make any sense. That is why I answer you.
Of course even believers sin. That does not mean they lose their rebirth. Just nonesense.
---Mark_V. on 9/28/11


eloy, what about the 99 sheep and one went astray? God may break his leg but he gets him back in the fold. I am so thankful my salvation will endure til the end then I will be with Christ.
---shira4368 on 9/27/11


Shira, you are correct. Eloy has no clue what he is talking about. He just does not understand that by saying what he does he calls God a liar.
If God tells us He will never leave us, how is it possible for us to leave Him? Just not possible. It would mean that God lies and that what He said is not true at all. How can you leave someone who will never leave you? A believer might run to the pit of hell as he says, yet God will never leave you or forsake you. People say things here and don't realize the consequences of what they are really saying.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/11


shira, Some people will believe whatsoever they desire, rather than the truth. The truth is, just as people are free to divorce, so too people are free to leave God and serve sin. This is called backsliding and falling from grace, it happens all the time: even as I write this there are some that are leaving the faith and joining up with sin, and there are others leaving sin and joining up to God.
---Eloy on 9/27/11


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I have never known of anyone taking a gift back. I am secure in Jesus Christ. Please read what "eternal, everlasting, forever, especially eternal life". I use to be shira 3877 but am now shira 4368.
---shira4368 on 9/27/11


shira, yes people take gifts back. And people also leave God all the time, in order to serve sin: and many of these backsliders never return back to God, but they die in their sins and are sealed to eternal damnation.
---Eloy on 9/27/11


eloy, I am saved and I will never never loose what God has given me. I may stray but I am secure in Jesus Christ. I have eternal life and Jesus didn't say I have eternal life "if". my salvation is a gift. Even people don't take a gift back.
---shira3877 on 9/26/11


Do CHRISTIANS backslide? ---michael_e on 9/22/11

no. those in Christ cannot, and most are never really in Christ.
---aka on 9/25/11


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//Only when we lose focus on Christ//
how does a christain lose focus on Christ?

At what point in his life did our pattern,the apostle Paul lose focus?
---michael_e on 9/24/11


While you are practicing the christian faith and you sin(which we all do) you are not considered in a backslidden state. Sin is something we all (christians ) are going to do from time to time. Jesus blood has covered that. This is the purpose of Christians being born again. True christians. Not hypocrites who are looking for an easy way to bystep Hell and damnation. For Christ knows who belong to Him. It is impossible not to sin here on earth. But God deals with our hearts on a spiritual level. That tells the true story whether we are saved or not.
---Robyn on 9/24/11


Along the narrow path of righteousness, all the lambs are following the Shepherd, but upon either side of the narrow path are other none following sheep and all manner of enticing and seducing and lying spirits present only to bate the innocent lambs to leave the straight and narrow path. That is why we are not to look to the left nor to the right, but to keep our focus straight ahead upon our Salvation, else we perchance heed the none flock and lose our Salvation.
---Eloy on 9/23/11


Only when we lose focus on Christ.
---Adetunji on 9/23/11


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Do CHRISTIANS backslide?
---michael_e on 9/22/11


Christians backslide because of our nature. This nature is the flesh we must fight. If we are not careful we will backslide not all at once but very slowly then only after a while do we realize that we are not actively seeking God daily. We rarely choose to knowingly turn but instead we get used to the life and forget God. This is the thrid seed of the planter parable.


---Scott1 on 9/21/11


I think that backsliding in someways is caused by the christain community. By that, I mean, it puts an impossible twist on living a rightous and pious life that we feel is not obtainable. Therefore we resort to a carnal position which is easier to live. Sort of a huministic view. If it feels good do it. The christian community is much to hard on itself to be perfect rather than saved.
---KEN_COLEMAN on 9/21/11


I believe that the word "Backslide" should not be used. It trivialises what is a serious matter before the Lord.

It is similar to the word "Affair" being used instead of Adultery or Fornication.

Similar to "NO FAULT" Divorce. Which is an Oxymoron.
---PASTOR_JIM on 12/4/09


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Honestly I believe its because they are mistreated as babes in Christ by 'mature' Christians who spread false doctrine that enables them to exalt themselves above new believers.

The new believers dont feel accepted and loved in the church and so they turn away from Christ not seeing Christianity as any different from the cold cruel world they knew before.

Its enough to make you cry
---JackB on 12/1/09


dave,
If you mean that there are accusers of the brethren like those who accused Jesus and those who Isaiah pointed, Isaiah 59:15: "Yea, truth faileth, and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment.", I say yeah, that is a major cause needing always to be addressed.
If you mean that christians should be taught to put their sins on a Lay-Away plan and you dislike Pauls treatment of the Corinthians, of Hymenaeus and Alexander, those he said 'No, not to eat", and John's advice "There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.", you have a problem and are living a pipe dream.
---Nana on 11/24/09


i think most fall back into a life of sin because of discouragement this is because they may fail and sin and beat themselves up for it we also have an accuser the devil and he stands ready to tell you when you fail that God will not forgive you and such lies as that and for some new or weak Christians this can be devastating that is why we need a good church body led by the Holy spirit that by his leading we can help to reach out to the prodigal sons.
---dave on 11/22/09


I believe Christians FALL FROM GRACE TOO when they make horrible false accusations against the Saints of God....James says they don't obey the Law, but RATHER now have become Judges, Jury and verbal executioners of the Saints. James also tells us these people need to HUMBLE themselves to receive more GRACE.

They have a perverted sense of their own self-righteous self importance.

They do not see that anything from our Adam 1 is a filty RAG before God. They cannot comprehend Jesus EXCHANGED our Filthy rag and gave us Robes washed in His Blood...HIS Righteousness.

These are wells without water spewing HATE at Christ in you....not you!

Actually these aren't backsliders, they are enemies of Jesus Christ.
---kathr4453 on 6/17/09


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If I can add to Leslie's post. God's way is to Live by GRACE as Paul taught in Galatians...and not legalism, which is PRIDE in oneself and not allowing the Grace (work of Christ) I am crucified with Christ...no longer I but CHRIST IN ME.

Everything Paul and the Apostles taught right from Jesus own mouth John 17......I in them and thou in me that we may be ONE.
It's in Romans, Colossians, Ephesians, Galatians, Peter 1 & 2 and on and on! CHRIST is you life....anything else is self-righteousness!
---kathr4453 on 6/17/09


People backslide due to PRIDE and SELFSERVINGNESS. When you delight in what you want over what God wants, or want things your way (like Burger King) rather than what God wants - you backslide. The cure for it is to desire only God and what He wants, and to do things God's way, NOT our way. It all comes down to living for self and the flesh, or living for God.
---Leslie on 6/16/09


Galatians 4:
17: They zealously affect you, but not well, yea, they would exclude you, that ye might affect them.
18: But it is good to be zealously affected always in a good thing, and not only when I am present with you.
Galatians 2:11: But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Into which law did Peter fall into? Hypocrisy? Was it unto "the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith" (Matt 23:23)? Else, what does hypocrisy to do even with "tithe of mint and anise and cummin"?
No doubt this is true:
1 Timothy 1:7: "Desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm." (or deny!)
---Nana on 6/16/09


The word Backslide is not used in the NT Church. The word you are looking for is falling from GRACE. Now if that is what is meant by backsliding, then yes, Christians, as we see in Galatia did backslide or fall from the teachings of Grace by going back under Law for their life. Paul said...."I am afraid of you".

Paul clearly teaches in Galatians 2:20 & 21 that the Crucified life (Romans 6) has a higher authority and POWER over any law keeping. Our Spirits do not need to be kept by the Law. Christians fall from the teachings of Grace, because they do not want to SUFFER.(Read Galatians 3 ...that is exactly what Galatians 3 says....There is no fellowship of His sufferings in Law Keeping.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/09


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Many reasons: (1)some people never really were saved to begin with (2) Some people need a good pastor/teacher to share the Word with them(3)Some churches are so cold, unfriendly and uncaring now(4)Congregations too large,no fellowship among the church family(5)hard to find true christians among congregations(hypocrites)(6)members just dont have money these preachers want and ask for, to support all of these various ministries (7)Most christians just don't understand what to do and how to live an overcoming life. They want one foot in the world and one foot in the church. Won't work that way. Many other reasons. List too long.
---Robyn on 5/30/09


Anne,
Good point about "preachers/teachers". God has a special place for the false prophet and there were and are many of those. If we ask, what is it that the 'preacher/teacher' instruct unto the students and listeners? Well, mostly the word of God through the prophets, and if these be false, all down the line will live a lie. Yet, not all is caused by the leaders like sin is not caused by temptation but by yielding to its urgings.
---Nana on 5/28/09


You're right Nana~ God isn't passive, it's the wimpy preachers/teachers who are passive and watering down God's word and leading mens souls on a lukewarm journey with no real passion or mission of being 'hot' for God. They get caught up in man-made traditions instead of getting caught up in sharing truth.
---Anne on 5/27/09


"I think many people backslide because of disappointments because God is so passive."
Jasmine on 5/8/09
That's exactly what happened with those who grew impatient waiting for Moses to come back. Some men perceive God to be passive (My Lord delayeth)and begin to beat their fellow servants. Some grow cold during trials and some nor hot nor cold as if playing both fields just in case.
---Nana on 5/27/09


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Because we're prone to making mistakes and being human like everyone else in the world.
---Vicki on 5/9/09


I spent over 6 years seeking God, I put a lot of time, energy and effort into this. I wanted the kind of marriage relationship Jesus had with the Father. Jesus sensed the second his Father turned away from him, it was a very real and tangible presence. I did sense this very few times at church, but that was it. I think many people backslide because of disappointments because God is so passive. I realized it is impossible to have this kind of relationship with God, so what is the point of being some religious freak who doesn't know God, abolutely nothing.
---Jasmine on 5/8/09


I think because we often times dont have a strong Christian support network of friends who are also walking with God, and who will hold us accountable for our actions. Everyone is so aloof...so "lets not judge"...as if that means they should let their brother or sister in Christ slide down into the muck and mire.
---Todd1 on 6/12/08


Bumbed out Christians are leaving their Christian groups (backsliding) at a record rate because their Christian leaders are not fulfilling their responsibility in delivering the real "new covenant". Christian people who remove themselves from their Christian life style are generally dissatisfied, and unfulfilled. Ministry is responsible, Jesus called a ministry that would deliver His "new covenant" to His people, so they could "enter in".
---Jim on 6/12/08


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Many of them walk according to the lusts of the flesh instead of according to the Holy Spirit. Matthew 13:3-23 talks about the four seeds. Not every seed bears good fruit! The receiver's heart must be opened to the gospel. Many people are under generational curses that need to be broken by the blood of Jesus.
---wes on 6/12/08


we're to crucify the flesh every day, to not do so and backslide is to be in danger of the judgement. cant live like the devil and expect to spend eternity w/ the Lord.
---r.w. on 9/15/06


We are works in progress. We do make wrong choices sometimes, but praise God that HE who began a good work in us WILL bring it to completion in the day of Christ Jesus our Lord. He works in us both to will and to do according to His good pleasure!
---Christy on 4/10/06


Because people have to have a maid up mind that what ever it takes they are going to live
for God And some people are not willing to pay the price
---betty on 4/9/06


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Johnithon
I understand what you are trying to state about "the church",I have noticed you are a bit hostile about it have you been hurt church members.
---willow on 2/13/06


2. for the believers, is there difference of degrees of hell? I have never stopped to think about this but I know the bible says it, and I do believe God's word, but just never thought how it could be worse. Without having to go into many books, if you can help me on this it sure would be great and I can check what you write. Bruce, if you know something on this can you help me on it? Thank you guys
---Lupe2618 on 2/13/06


Brother Jonathon, I totally agree with your answer to Bruce in that this people were inlighten and knew about Christ but were not true Christians. I have read that also in Hebrews. Now, I have read that example three times as to the penalty been worse. Now I also have read that the penalty for the false Prophet is worse then others, my question is, and help me if you can on this, How can it be worse? Hell is bad already. Maybe a better way of putting the question is, comparing it to the rewards
---Lupe2618 on 2/13/06


Speaking from a 7 year backslide..There was no real relation ship of honesty friendship in the large church. I came back to Christ this time never to walk away, for it is just for today. With real Gods people.
---Lynn on 2/9/06


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Bruce you need to remember this is a parable and in v36 37 40 43 The Lord Jesus is saying the faithful servant. And implying that in v45-47 if the SERVENT the same one but unfaithful to the Lord and knowing the word and Jesus and not excepting HIM . By leading the flock astray with lies. He will be beaten and put with the unbelievers. For that is where his heart lies in the first place.
---jonathon on 1/25/06


Johathon,
v36 "Ye yourselves like unto men..."
v37 "blessed are those servants..."
v40 "be READY..."
v43 "blessed is that servant..."
v45 "but if THAT" (same) "servant...." "BEGINS TO beat...be drunken..."
v46" "will appoint him his portion with THE UNBELIEVERS..."
v47 "And that" (same) "servant, which KNEW HIS LORDS WILL, and prepared not... beaten with many stripes"
---Bruce5656 on 1/25/06


Bruce thus verses are talking about a person who did not except Christ and the holy sprit in the first place. All that person was trying to fool people into believing that he was saved but God knows his heart and knows that he is lying. And when he truly turns from the church his punishment is worse then the unbeliever that says he is not a believer. He knows better and still did not except the truth
---jonathon on 1/24/06


Johathon,
Perhaps you would explain Luke 12:34-48

How is it that verses 46-48 describe the once faithful servant recieving punishment worse than the unbelievers.
---Bruce5656 on 1/24/06


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And because it is a gift God will never take it off you. And if you feel that because you do sin or will sin that He will take it back YOU ARE CALLING GOD A LIEIR. But that does not give one the right to sin or sin again.
---Jonathon on 1/24/06


Rebecca that is the Great thing about Grace. Even after we do repent and sometimes we do fall again into the same trap. And like Adam and Eve we try to hide from God for awhile cause like children we know we did something that we should not have done. He will forgive was when we ask for it. But we do need to face the things we done and face the consciences of those things. But if you truly expected Christ into your heart. You will be given that FREE GIFT of grace.
---Jonathon on 1/24/06


jonathon. I love your faith. I know God is so good to bring backsliders back to him. I'm one too. God bless you.
---john on 1/24/06


Jonathon, backsliding doesn't mean that if you are a Christian, you loose your salvation every time you sin or fall to temptation. Backsliding is a gradual process, that is a result of one unconfessed sin after another until the person has wondered so far away from God, they are completely back in a cold and willfull state of unrepentant sin. God still loves that person, but unrepentant and unconfessed sin will not enter into the kingdom of Heaven, the bible is very plain on that
---Molly on 1/24/06


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Jonathan, when someone no longer wants to go to church, they lost their desire to be in the house of God and have fellowship with other Christians. Some can backslide on God and God turns on a deaf ear toward them. He said this, and he will laugh at their amifirmites. God is only required to give us one chance, he doesn't have to give us more and more chances to come back to him, but he does because he loves us. If a person continues to sin, and never repents they go to hell.
---Rebecca_D on 1/24/06


PART 2 : It cant happen. Its like diving after you learn how to do it. Then dont drive for awhile you dont forget how to do it, it just might to a bit to get the hang of it thats all. So like your walk with Christ is the same way. For when we do and you will backslide (fall) Jesus will carrier you through the hard part till you can stand on your own feet again . He will never forsake you after you have accepted his free gift of grace!
---jonathon on 1/24/06


PART 1 :I may be wrong on that point of a church. But I know that even that we are saved that we do and we will sin. But through Jesus we are forgiven. We all try to sinless but sorry I am not perfect and you are not either. Remember that know mater how much you backslide you will never ever backslide past the point where you were born again.
---jonathon on 1/24/06


jonathon, you are not correct seeing Matt. 18:20 about 2 or 3 gathered in Jesus name that this is a church. It is speaking of 2 or 3 gathered in Jesus name, agreeing on anything on earth that it is done in heaven. It doesn't say this is a church. The church in Scripture has ordained leadership who take care of the flock of God. Apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers.
---john on 1/24/06


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for the same reason people leave their spouse. People leave their first love for sin.
---Eloy on 1/24/06


We're human. As Christians we try to be Christ-like but sometimes that ole human steps in the way. I backslid after becoming saved. I didn't love Jesus any less, I made a mistake and repented. I used drugs again and realized the only one I was pleasing was satan and I want to please God, so no more dope.
---Nellah on 1/23/06


Also ---Rebecca_D with those versus I gave. You need to change what you perceive as a Church. A church is where 3 or more come in his name The Lord Jesus Christ. That is what I see church as, and that church can be anywhere, your home, or work. So missing church as you put it not relevant into backsliding.
---jonathon on 1/23/06


Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am mere flesh, sold as a slave to sin.
Rom 7:15 I don't understand what I am doing. For I don't do what I want to do, but instead do what I hate.
Rom 7:16 Now if I do what I don't want to do, I agree that the law is good.
Rom 7:17 As it is, I am no longer the one who is doing it, but it is the sin that lives in me.
---jonathon on 1/23/06


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Because they aren't serious with God . If they were than they wouldn't backslide. Backsliding doesn't happen overnight. It first starts out with missing a night of church, then 2, 3 and pretty soon, they don't go at all. but there are some people whom still go to church and have backsliden and still think they are okay with God.
---Rebecca_D on 1/23/06


Wow! Lots of good stuff in here. Backsliding has affected us all hey? I would add to all the great things you have already said that not being plugged into a fellowship that has good praise and worship and encouraging Word is also a big reason.
---john on 1/23/06


Backsliding is a human condition one which affects the vast majority of mankind. If you are a born again blood washed believer today you are in a state not NATURAL for man. Indeed we understand that natural man cannot understand spiritual things. Therefore backsliding is a condition of saved people who are not in the spirit.
---mima on 1/23/06


The Bible says we are tempted when we are drawn away by our own lust. Temptation is what brings forth sin when it isn't rebuked or rejected and that is why people sin. Christians must die to self daily and live unto Christ that includes living as Christ,Holy. Sin is rebellion against Christlike living and God. Sin is also the selfish fullfillment of carnal thinking. As a man thinks in his heart so is he. Actions follow thoughts.
---Darlene_1 on 1/23/06


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Much of the backsliding takes place when we take our eyes/minds off Jesus! and replace our appreciation for His LOVE with "things" which we estimate (foolishly) of greater value! P.
---Pierre on 1/23/06


Free will.....
---bob on 1/23/06


Gal. 5:17
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
---Fred_S. on 1/23/06




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