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Is Democracy An Atheistic Concept

Is not the concept of a democracy and republic completly atheistic? I know that Islamists say this, but I have not heard it as a Christian view before. What do Christians believe?

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Democracy is not scriptural. It would be best to have a monarchy and a state church.
---InimicusStultitiae on 1/17/08


The US is a republic, not a democracy. The concept is fro, Athens Greece, Perecles, 500BC. It is completly pagen. The constitution is a secular document.
---MikeM on 1/17/08


No way. It is just the opposite really. But this country is slowly getting way from democratic views . Christians are slowly being erroted. Unbelievers, if the devil has his way, has more freedoms than God's people. Also, in other parts of the world same problem. What to do? We, as God's people, must endure till the end. That means, we must obey God rather than man. We do not belong to the Government or to this world, we belong only to God.
---catherine on 1/17/08


# 1 Not being a USA citizen, I am not going to take the Quiz as a prerequisite of answering on this issue! In fact England would claim to be an older democracy than the US, although it took much longer to have universal suffrage!!
---alan8869_of_UK on 1/17/08


The American (United States) model of democracy is, "...all men are CREATED equal & are endowed by their CREATOR with certain inalienable rights..." This concept is not atheistic since atheist don't believe in God.

Moderator: I'm learning to take the quiz before responding to questions. Question #2 cracked me up! Thanks, I needed that. :)
---Leon on 5/19/07




here's an example of democracy--two wolves and a sheep are at a table discussing what to have for dinner. interesting how white house and media keep using 'democracy'. hhmmmmmmm
---r.w. on 8/24/06


u.s. founded as a constitutional, representative republic. NOT a democracy. our founders didnt want a democracy, or mobocracy. in republic, rights come from God, not the state, and elect officials to vote for you. in democracy, everyone votes and 51% wins.
---r.w. on 8/24/06


#2 A totalitarian government, however, can be whatever it's leaders want. Communism could be "Atheistic" OR "Christian" (didn't the early church "have all things in common", after all.)
Christian doctrine could be required in government schools. Atheists could be sent somewhere to be "converted". To me, equating "Christian" or "Atheistic" to a from of government is comparing apples to oranges.
---Donna on 3/15/06


#1 As I said, LAWS and POLICIES may be shaped by religion, but the basic STRUCTURE of governnment is neutral. Some worry that the U.S. could become a theocracy. Or what if, coversely, we took "separation of church and state" to the limit, mandating all public officials to be atheists. Could we then become an atheistic autocracy?
---Donna on 3/15/06


#1 As I said, LAWS and POLICIES may be shaped by religion, but the basic STRUCTURE of governnment is neutral. Some worry that the U.S. could become a theocracy. Or what if, coversely, we took "separation of church and state" to the limit, mandating all public officials to be atheists. Could we then become an atheistic autocracy? It's quite unlikely in a democracy with our diverse populace. Democracy tends to create an equilibrium.
---Donna on 3/15/06




Domma ... The communist governments had policies and laws based on atheism, and religious practice was forbidden.
---alan_of_uK on 3/15/06


Guess I'm missing something here. How can a form of government be either "Christian" or "atheist". PEOPLE can be Christian or atheist..or Muslim or Hindu.. The religion of the people may influence LAWS and POLICIES of a government, but the STRUCTRE of government seems pretty neutral to me.
---Donna on 3/14/06


SlcGuy We agree ... atheism is nihilistic in that it just says "there is no god ... we are alone, we have nothing to rely on but ourselves"
You comment about Athens interests me!
But atheism and paganism are NOT the same. Paganism has gods, athiesm denies them.
There is no democracy that I am aware of that denies God/god.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/6/06


True democracy shows its atheism when the "terror of the majority" is allowed to run free. This terror of the majority is presently operating in Hamas in Palestine and in Iran with the Iranians. Interestingly enough the government of the millennial kingdom will not be a democracy but rather will be one of a benevolent dictator. The dictator's name will be almighty God!!!
---mima on 2/6/06


As an interesting aside to the question, consider the US Supreme Court Decision Church of the Holy Trinity v U.S., 143 U.S. 266 (1892) where after ten years of legal research the Court Declared the USA to be a Christian Nation. How things have Changed in 108 Years. I do not know the Anti Christ will be but he/she is from the USA I feel there will strong ties to the ACLU.
---Phil_the_Elder on 2/6/06


Atheism I find nihilistic. I agree with the Bible, "the fool n his heart says their is no God" The Athenian Democracy was indeed atheistic, as religious pagans were NOT allowed in the senate. American Democracy was and is a hodgepodge of beliefs, atheism NOT being one of those beliefs. The idea of individual freedom was anti-clerical, thus a threat to 'traditional Christians' entrenched in the autocratic regimes of Europe.
---SLCGuy on 2/6/06


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Alan; Many of Americas founders were Freemasons, Washington, Adams, Franklen, etc. The concept of freedom of religion, seperation of church come, to a degree from Masonry. someone will bring up Locke, he was a freemason as well. Some enlightenment leaders were interested in paganism, but mostly in relation to law. I do not know of any of americas founders as being atheist
---SlcGuy on 2/6/06


SlcGuy: I gather you're not a USA citizen either? So, what form of government suits you?
---Leon on 2/5/06


The U.S. form of Democratic Republic was, at it's founding, the closest reflection of a government in line with God's principals for mankind. Freedom and free will combined with laws protecting the rights of the individual. God does not force anybody to believe in or worship Him. He allows us to make decisions and reap the rewards for good ones while facing the consequences and learning lessons for poor ones. Responsibility is key, but it is becoming increasingly unpopular.
---ralph7477 on 2/5/06


SlcGuy ... thank you for coming back on this! Do you not confuse atheist and pagan? They are mutually exclusive terms, in that pagans believe is a deity or deities, whereas atheists deny any god. The idea of separating state from religious organisations is not atheistic or pagan or undemocrat, or particularly democratic ... it is just sensible and recognises that the state should not impose a particular religious belief on individuals
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/5/06


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Democracy is indeed a pagan atheist concept. It was created by Perecles of Athens. They were pagan, and declared 'all preist remain in their temples, not the seat of goverment-Perecles, 523BC. America is a blend of Pagan(democracy/Republic), freemasonry, and biblical concepts. Most of the Founding Fathers were deist and freemasons. The 'creator' referenced in The dec. Of Independence, (Jefferson) is a deist view. The constitution is a secular document. Check your doller bill--
---SlcGuy on 2/5/06


# 2 ... In fact I think one of the oldest democracies, if not the first, was the Greek city of Athens ... before the time of Christ. And they had gods, so it seems to me that democracy cannot be an atheist idea. The first sentence of my question was taken from a post from one of our bloggers, it is not my idea! Perhaps the blogger that advanced that idea could comment in support of it?
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/5/06


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