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Does Polygamy Still Exist

Does polygamy still exist today? How many wives could the men have if they did marry more than one women?

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Old testament saints had many wives. Nothing wrong with having many wives in the old testament. Does God change?
---calhoon on 11/10/07


Ashley: From the other blog {{I want names}}
It's very easy to find names of Smith's plural wives, search "Joseph Smith's plural wives" There's also a Mormon owned & operated site that lists many of them, search "Joseph Smith Individual Record"

{{Polygamy was not introduced until after his death}}
Please read D & C section 132 & kindly refrain from insulting my intelligence.
---tracy3346 on 11/9/07


The Bible doesn't tell us not to stick our gum under the table in a restaurant either, but we know its wrong.
It does tell us to obey the laws of the land.
---Andrea on 9/2/07


Even though polygamy is not practiced by most Christians (except for certain Mormon subgroups), there is nothing at all in the New Testament that forbids it, other than a few verses in 1 Timothy that require bishops and deacons to be men "of one wife".
---Mark on 9/2/07


The last man in good standing with the LDS church and living in a pre-manifesto church approved (but illegal) polygamous relationship is believed to have died in 1976. 20 years ago - and thats just the public ones. How many are still privately married?
---Andrea on 9/1/07




Polygamy is still a canonized doctrine of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Many polygamists claim that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only true church.

Many members leave The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in order to join Mormon faiths that practice polygamy. Many other LDS practice polygamy very discretely within the church.

Many members of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are descended from polygamous ancestors.
---Andrea on 9/1/07


How can anyone who believes that Brigham Young was a prophet of God be so sure that the Mormon polygamists are in error? If B.Y. was correct aren't those who deny the practice of polygamy risking their souls for the sake of statehood? Or has the "LDS" church managed to re-define the term "damnation" just as it has terms such as "salvation" and "Jesus Christ"?
---tracy3346 on 9/1/07


(1) Ashley, you're a nice guy and I honestly value your friendship, nonetheless, I can not remain silent regarding this topic, but please understand that none of what I say is intended as a personal attack against you.

**people can profess anything they want, but it doesn't mean they are what they profess to be.**
Exactly! Just because Joseph Smith claimed to be a prophet, doesnt mean he was.
---tracy3346 on 7/18/07


(2) **we believe in obeying the laws of the land.**
Did Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and other early Mormons believe in obeying the laws of the land? (polygamy was illegal prior to 1887)

**anyone practising polygamy is not a member of the church. There names are not written in the archives of the church.**

Why are the names of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young still written in the archives of the church along with their multiple wives?
---tracy3346 on 7/18/07


(3) Here's what Brigham Young had to say about polygamy...

"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned" (Deseret News, November 14, 1855)

"We are told that if we would give up polygamy-which we know to be a doctrine revealed from heaven, and it is of God and the world for it- (cont.)
---tracy3346 on 7/18/07




(4) but suppose this Church should give up this holy order of marriage, then would the devil, and all who are in league with him against the cause of God, rejoice that they had prevailed upon the Saints to refuse to obey one of the revelations and commandments of God to them Will the Latter-day Saints do this? No, they will not to please anybody." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, page 239)
---tracy3346 on 7/18/07


(5) "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy... I heard the revelation on polygamy, and I believed it with all my heart Do you think that we shall ever be admitted as a State into the Union without denying the principle of polygamy? If we are not admitted until then, we shall never be admitted." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 11, page 269)
---tracy3346 on 7/18/07


Is 44:8 ..Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

No human will ever turn into God. There was only one Son who became human. Since you are on this Christian sight, perhaps the Father is drawing you to Himself.

Stop defending those who lead you astray. They don't submit to Christ, & are lost until they do submit.

Only those chosen by God-the Father, who submit to Christ will be saved. I encourage you to repent & submit to Christ.
---aservant on 6/25/07


a servant. even though people can trace their lineage back to Jesus Christ does not make them prophets. anyone practising polygamy is not a member of the church. There names are not written in the archives of the church. They are excommunicated and their names are removed. if you were catholic and switch to pentacostle. are you still catholic. NO. same thing. people can profess anything they want, but it doesn't mean they are what they profess to be.
---ashley on 6/24/07


-1-
The Second Manifesto . . . is not as well known as the 1890 Manifesto. However, it is equally important, as it finally ended a period of confusion and internal struggle within Mormonism. Polygamous marriages had continued to be contracted in isolated cases, even by some bishops and stake presidents. From Mormon-polygamy.
---a_servant on 6/24/07


-2-
These people, known today as "Fundamentalist Mormons," still believe that polygamy is an "everlasting covenant" just as Joseph Smith had declared in Doctrine and Covenants. And they are indeed "Mormons" as they trace their historical and doctrinal roots back to Joseph Smith, the Book of Mormon, and his revelations.

From Institute of Religious Research.
---a_servant on 6/24/07


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-3-
Latter-day Church of Christ, Merlin Kingston, Salt Lake City, UT: Polygamous, Mormon Fundamentalist splinter group led by Merlin and Ortell Paul Kingston. Membership estimates range between 300 and 1,500 members.

From Watchman Fellowship

Mormon leaders still practice polygyny regadless of official dogma.

As stated, Mormon polygyny is not Christian polygyny. Mormons don't follow the teaching of Christ.
---a_servant on 6/24/07


A servant: you said LDS leaders do enter into polygamy. show me one from 1887 documented as fact. that is the year it was stopped so Utah could join the United States. Why, because we believe in obeying the laws of the land. too bad many christians can't say the same and drive intoxicated, murder others, steal, cheat others and fill the prisons to capacity. indulge in drugs. all contrary to the laws of the land.
---ashley on 6/23/07


Mormon polygyny is not Christian polygyny. Mormon church leaders did enter/do enter into polygyny. Christian church leaders are forbidden to enter polygyny:

1 Tim 3:2, 12
Titus 1:6
---a_servant on 6/22/07


In a letter to Chancellor Gregor Brck, Martin Luther stated that he could not "forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict Scripture."

Devout Christians in other nations practice polygyny, and are not forced to divorce if they relocate to the U.S.

Eze 23 shows God having 2 wives: Samaria & Jerusalem.

God's 12 tribes were from polygynous marriage. He could have formed them from monogamy.

Is 62:5 shows God intending to marry more than one son.
---a_servant on 6/21/07


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Yes, polygamy does exist today. I believe as many wives they could handle. In any case, We should all be most concern about our own sins.
---catherine on 6/21/07


In Utah today, there are an estimated 30,000 fundamentalist Mormans who still engage in polygamy. They believe that they will be barred from heaven unless they follow the covenant of polygamy set forth by Joseph Smith in 1843. The Mormans recanted their polygamy doctrine in 1890 after the U.S. Congress became so concerned about the Morman practice of polygamy that they passed the Edmund-Tucker Act, threatening to confiscate Morman property and jail its leaders.
---LL on 6/21/07


Root of Hypocrisy
Lying Spirit

Vain imagination
Falsehood
Vain notions
Guile
Exaggeration
Negative strong delusion
Profanity
Vain babbling
Untruths
Lies
Fables
Garbles words
Flattery
Treacherous
Superstitions
Cunning
Dishonesty
Insincere
Profanity
Two-faced
Insinuations
Sham
Fib
Religious lies

2 Chron 18:22
2 Thes 2:11
Ezek 12:24
Matt 12:35-37
1 Tim 4:7, 6:20
2 Tim 2:16
Jer 23:15-17
---MMR on 6/20/07


This is why Ashley thinks all churches are the antichrist except the cult of mormonism.
"Whosoever... does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist...,"
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 176

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man
---sam on 6/20/07


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MMR good stuff, you just described catholic and protestant churches perfectly. of course many will deny that, but look at the history of both and you will see all of those things are taught or practised by their members openly and without remorse. Just read the blogs here and I rest my case. Gail, I am still waiting for you to answer my questions which you conveniently keep skirting the issue on. When you answer my questions, I will address yours. it is called courtesy.
---ashley on 6/20/07


Gail: all I keep hearing are things you read in anti literature books. You said you didn't know where the Hill Cumorah was. That tells me instantly you don't have a clue. If you did, you would know it is in Palmyra New York. Everyone that has ever studied the church knows that. It is one thing to study to learn truth and another to repeat gossip and falsehoods for your own glory with the express intention to deceive others. In case you didn't know, that is of satan, not God.
---ashley on 6/20/07


Spirit of Antichrist

Attacks Christ
Blasphemes
Opposes Christ
Scoffer
Persecutes Christians
Attacks the Blood of Christ
Humanism
Atheism
Agnosticism
Wars against Christians
Sinful
Carnally Minded
Rebrobate

1 John 2:18; 4:3
2 John 7
---MMR on 6/19/07


Root of witchcraft
Spirit of Divination -
Necromancy
Witchery
False prophecies
Divining
Bewitch
Charm
Magic
Mimic
Imitates word knowledge
Soothsaying
Portend
Occultism
Conjuration
Mesmerize
Enchantments
Spell
Foretell
Incantatory
Spiritualism
Levitation
Call up spirits
Raise up spirits
Counterfeit
Controlling

Acts 16:16
Acts 3:6-8
Jer. 14:14
II Kings 17:17
Deut. 18:14
Ezk. 12:24
---MMR on 6/19/07


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Why was Joseph Smith arrested for "money digging" and convicted of being a disorderly person?

He admitted to being a money digger, though he said it was never very profitable for him (History of the Church, V. 3, p. 29). He and his father's money digging continued until at least 1826. On March 20th, 1826, Joseph was arrested, brought before a judge, and charged with being a "glass-looker" and a disorderly person.
---Gail on 6/19/07


The laws at that time had what was known as the "Vagrant Act." It defined a disorderly person as one who pretended to have skill in the areas of palmistry, telling fortunes or discovering where lost goods might be found. According to court records Justice Neely determined that Joseph was guilty, though no penalty was administered, quite possibly because this was a first offense (Inventing Mormonism, Marquardt and Walters, pp. 74-75).
---Gail on 6/19/07


Why is it that LDS books describe proposed Book of Mormon locations for cities and the "narrow neck of land"?

No city has been identified as being Nephite, Lamanite, Jaredite, etc. For example, Zarahemla was occupied for hundreds of years, but we still don't have any real evidence of it ever existing. The Book of Mormon describes a time period from 2000 BC to 400 AD and millions of people. No city they occupied has yet to be found.
---Gail on 6/19/07


Where was the Hill Cumorah? Was it in New York or Central America? If it was in Central America, why hasn't it been found? If it was in New York, how did they move that quickly and where are all the remains?


Why don't significant gaps exist in the archeological record of Mesoamerica if these "missing" people existed?
---Gail on 6/19/07


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Can a mormon have a demon or unclean spirit?
The answer is yes.

The Christian overcomes mormon witchcraft with the Blood of the Lamb, the preaching of the Cross of Jesus Christ.
Christians submit to God, resist the devil, and he will flee.
Christians have authority in the name of Jesus to cast the demons out.

Because your Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible, but the brother of Lucifer, you have no spiritual authority here; and all of your curses fall idly to the ground.
---Gail on 6/19/07


"This seer stone, still retained by the First Presidency of the LDS Church, was the vehicle through which the golden plates were discovered and the medium through which their interpretation came".

You know what, Jesus didn't need a seer stone and neither did any of His disciples;
Neither did God's genuine prophets of old.
Not one of God's prophets ever used witchcraft to write/interpret Scripture.
---Gail on 6/19/07


Jesus and His disciples did not sit around in the holy drawers and puffy white hats.
They didn't need any of those masonic props to fulfill Scripture.

You know what, Jesus and John the Baptist, didn't tell anyone that they could be baptized for their dead loved ones. That's necromancy.
And here's a news flash, all the baptisms you've performed for the dead won't cause God to budge an inch for the dead. When you're dead, it's too late.
---Gail on 6/19/07


Ashe, all the familiar spirits that have followed you around or shown up where you've lived.... Those are not ghosts....Those are familiar spirits.
God does not allow our dead loved ones to visit us from the grave.
You've been visiting with demons.
There is most definitely not a thin paper curtain between you and the dead as you presume.
---Gail on 6/19/07


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"Between us and you there is a great gulf fixed; so that they which would pass from hence to you can not; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence."


A Great Gulf Fixed

Luke 16:19-31

Christ shows that in this life men decide their eternal destiny. If men waste their opportunities, they cut themselves off from everlasting life. No afterprobation will be granted them. By their own choice they have fixed an impassable gulf between them and God.
---Gail on 6/19/07


Baptisms for the dead are worthless, unscriptural works.
Wood, hay and stubble.

The rich man also died, and was buried; and in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame."
---Gail on 6/19/07


"remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed; so that they which would pass from hence to you can not; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence."

Christ tells us of the hopelessness of looking for a second probation.

This life is the only time given to man in which to prepare for eternity.
---Gail on 6/19/07


"If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."

If your loved ones didn't believe in the Gospel of Jesus Christ while they were alive,
dunking yourself in the pool will not save them, it's too late.

But it's not too late for you, Ashe & MM. You're still alive and have breath. If you don't renounce that mormonism, you won't be with your relatives that did renounce it. There's a great gulf and one has fire.
---Gail on 6/19/07


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Gail: I said the people living in the Americas had the old testament writings of the prophets. They came from the old world. They knew what they were writing about. The reason you are so bitter and filled with hate is because You deal with negative things written by men and women who had the truth of Jesus Christ and lost it through disobedience. Misery loves company. You hardened your heart and only God can make you repent now. Your hatred will see you cast out, not accepted into the kingdom of God.
---ashley on 6/19/07


Now Gail; I could, and have in the past faced, and refuted such specious doctrinal challenges as you now offer. When I have, the result is always the same, an immediate stonewall. I also note when offering a counter challenge, such as a polemical debate with Pentecostals they become, visceral, claiming its unacceptable, not allowed. In other words we can confront you, but dont dare challenge us. Its about people living in glass houses throwing stones.
---MikeM on 6/19/07


Gail, I will endeavor to answer one of your posts, from.6/88
I see no confusion between Old and New Covenants in the BOM. The Old Covenant is established in (Heb. 10:9). But as said not on iota was taken away, The BOM no more intermingles covenants than the Bible, Paul constantly refers to the OT, as the OT is a foreshadowing of the coming of the messiah; as he wished to illustrate. Where is the issue?
---MikeM on 6/19/07


The devil is a liar.
Ashe, you're stormin' mormon love walk went right down the drain.
This is what the mormon priesthood tells anyone that would dare speak about the lies of mormonism. Have you read any of S. Benson's writings about it?

You can't answer a single one of these questions, but you can curse with the best of them.

You are unable to address even one question, why is that?
---Gail on 6/18/07


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Gail: You are absolutely correct. You don't have a hope of obtaining the celestial kingdom and living with the Father. The same as many Latter Day Saints will also not obtain that if they are not worthy to enter the temple at all times. Everyone here wants to live with Jesus Christ in the Terrestial kingdom anyways, so what difference does it make. The sad thing is many will not be there either. Without true repentence and living in harmony with Jesus Christ, many will be cast out. Satan is rejoicing.
---ashley on 6/18/07


Answer these +

Why is the Latin word "Lucifer" used in 2 Nephi 24:12 when that word clearly wasn't used by Isaiah?

Why does the Book of Mormon paraphrase from the preface to the King James Version of the Bible in Helaman 5:31 and Alma 19:6?

Why are portions of Isaiah quoted off of the plates of brass when these items weren't written until after Nephi supposedly got the plates out of Laban's treasury?
---Gail on 6/18/07


Why was Paul referred to before his time? (Paul said, "Death where is thy sting")

Why is it that of the 350 names in the Book of Mormon, 100 are found in the Bible, others are place names found on early 19th century maps, and the rest are derivatives of Bible names?

Why didn't Joseph Smith ever acknowledge using the KJV of the Bible to "translate"?
---Gail on 6/18/07


Why were these phrases used out of the New Testament supposedly before the New Testament was even thought of--much less written?
1."oh wretched man that I am" Romans 7:24 / 2 Nephi 4:17
2."earthquake, rocks rent" Matt 27:51 / 1 Nephi 12:14
3."old serpent, which is the devil" Rev 20:2 / 2 Nephi 2:18
4."one faith, one baptism" Ephesians 4:5 / Mosiah 18:21
5.one man perish instead of a nation - John 11:50 / 1 Nephi 4:13
---Gail on 6/18/07


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Why does the phrase "the lamb of God" appear only in the New Testament portion of the Bible but it appears in the Book of Mormon over 30 times--28 times in 1 Nephi alone?

Why do the words of Malachi 4:1 appear in 1 Nephi 22:15 over a hundred years before Malachi wrote them?

Why do so many stories seem like exaggerated borrowings from the Bible?
---Gail on 6/18/07


Ammon killed six sheep rustlers with a sling (Alma 17:36) vs. David's killing of Goliath. (1 Samuel 17:50)
Pillar of Fire. (Exodus 13:21) vs. (1 Nephi 1:6)
Lord instructs Noah to build the Ark (Genesis 6:14) / Lord instructs Nephi to build ship (1 Nephi 17:8) / Lord instructs Jaredites to build barges (Ether 2:16)
Jaredites brought flocks, two of a kind, seeds. (Ether 2:1) vs. Noah doing the same in (Genesis 7:9)
Raising dead. (Matthew 10:8) vs. (3 Nephi 19:4)
---Gail on 6/18/07


Temple of Solomon took 180,000 people seven and a half years to build (1 Kings 5, 6) / The few in number Nephites did it in less than 20 years after arriving (2 Nephi 5).
Calming Storm (1 Nephi 18:8-21) vs. (Matthew 8:23-27).
Men in Fire (Helaman 5:22-24) vs. (Daniel 3).
Feeding Multitude (3 Nephi 20:3-7) out of nothing / In Bible, Christ multiplied existing food (Matthew 14).
Christ heals masses in Book of Mormon (3 Nephi 17:9) / in Bible Jesus healed as he encountered (Luke 9:42).
---Gail on 6/18/07


Why does the Book of Mormon confuse the Old and New Covenants? In the Bible, the Old Covenant is taken away to establish the New according to Paul and his followers (Heb. 10:9). The Book of Mormon intermingles the covenants. Paul was the man who first tried to reconcile the Old to the New convenant--not anyone during Old Testament times.
---Gail on 6/18/07


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Why were there missionaries in the Book of Mormon before Christ?


Why is King Benjamin's oratory like a 19th century camp meeting?
Revival gathering (Mosiah 2)
Guilt ridden falling exercise (4:1-2)
Petition for spiritual emancipation (4:2)
Absolution and ecstasy (4:3)
Repentance (4:4-8)
Born again (5:7)
Take name of Christ (5:8-15)

Why do other works early in Joseph Smith's lifetime teach that the Indians were descended from the Hebrews?
---Gail on 6/18/07


Why is polygamy condemned in the Book of Mormon, but condoned in portions of the D&C (condemned in others) and still believed to be necessary in church doctrine for exaltation in the after-life?

Where are such doctrines as a man having to marry in order to be exalted, member having to wear sacred undergarments, official doctrine being voted upon by the general membership, God being the offspring of another God, etc.?
---Gail on 6/18/07


Now Gail; I dont know where you got your infromation. As to quotes, context is everything. i could place wacky quotes from well known protestants, but it would say more about me than them protestants. As for me, I know salvation comes through Jesus Christ, and no other. I get a kick out of those who tell me what I believe. Capitol lock(screaming)is viseral, a poor replacement for substance. Look up AD HOMINUM in the dictionary.
---MikeM on 6/17/07


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---Adalert on 6/17/07


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MM and Ashe, your Ad Hom and 7 basic debate principles have as much power as temple garments - NONE.


"I tell you, JOSEPH SMITH HOLDS THE KEYS, AND NONE OF US CAN GET INTO THE CELESTIAL KINGDOM WITHOUT PASSING BY HIM. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him."
---Gail on 6/16/07


"I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, ..."
---Gail on 6/16/07


"IF BROTHER JOSEPH SMITH IS SATISFIED WITH YOU, YOU MAY PASS.

IF JOSEPH SMITH SHALL SAY TO A MAN, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I FORGIVE YOU YOUR SINS, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression, I WILL FORGIVE HIM: I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
- Apostle Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
---Gail on 6/16/07


Deal with it MM and Ashe.
Your POLYGAMY PACKAGE IS PART OF YOUR INSURANCE POLICY FOR THE CELESTIAL KINGDOM

LOOK AT IT - TAKE IT ALL IN

IT'S BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD

CAN YOU DEFEND EVEN ONE OF YOUR BELIEFS, MIKEM?
---Gail on 6/16/07


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LOOK AT THIS MM and Ashe:

"Whosoever... does not confess that God has sent Joseph Smith, and revealed the everlasting Gospel to and through him, is of Antichrist...,"
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, p. 176

[There is] "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. .no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Joseph F. Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
---Gail on 6/16/07


MORMON GARMENTS WILL NOT SAVE YOU FROM HELL

"No man or woman will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF JOSEPH SMITH..every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are... JOSEPH SMITH REIGNS THERE AS A SUPREME BEING IN HIS SPHERE, capacity, and calling, AS GOD does in heaven. It is true."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p.289-91
---Gail on 6/16/07


YOUR WORSHIP OF JOSEPH SMITH IS BLASPHEMY AGAINST GOD

"He that confesseth not that Jesus sent Joseph Smith with the fullness of the Gospel is not of God, but is anti-christ"
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p.312

" Because the Lord called Joseph Smith salvation is again available to mortal men.... If not for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
- Apostle Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670
---Gail on 6/16/07


Gail-In debate there are 7 basic fallacies, one is AD HOMINUM or even non-sequitor. Those classic fallacies are used when one ideas are failing.

You did not answer my question 'Who will destroy the religions you do not like?' Its a comment you made a few times. As for me I try to stand by the comments, declerations I make.
---MikeM on 6/16/07


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Gail; In the past when I debated fundamentalist they resorted to emotion when it was clear their arguments failed, then they bailed. I could with ease use, quote Bible verses I thought suppoted my unique views, but that's self-serving. Slave owners quoted Bible verses to defend their slavery, genocides were commited with biblical approval,evil has often been done on the heals of a few Bible verses. Again I ask, who (what group) will destroy the religions you do not like?
---MikeM on 6/15/07


If mormonism is "all that", why are you here, MikeM.?

Why aren't you going on with mormonism?
You're not, it's all a big fakealoo.
You're stuck in your childhood, afraid of your shadow, and always looking over your shoulder.
---Gail on 6/15/07


Gail-Most of my former family were pentaostals. i left it for what I believe is the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ. This is not in exclusion of others beliefs, as I believe in pluralism, freedom of religion, you clearly do not. If Mormons and all other non-fundamentalist/pentacostals are to be destroyed a you say, who is going to do all this destroying?
---MikeM on 6/15/07


False Gospels Quiz

13. The Bible explains that those (Mormons) who teach false doctrine will be destroyed.

The correct answer is True.


2 Peter 2:1 - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.




---Gail on 6/15/07


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False Gospels Quiz

15. Anyone teaching false doctrines should be nurtured in Christ, and shown the correct way.

The correct answer is False.
FALSE, FALSE, FALSE

Romans 16:17 - Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Ashley, your false gospels including polygamy are not to be nurtured.
You need a deliverance from false gospels, Ashley.






---Gail on 6/15/07


False Gospels Quiz

16. Jesus warned that there would be many who would be deceived.

The correct answer is True.


Matthew 24:11 - And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Ashley is deceived. Mormonism has a false prophet.

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---Gail on 6/15/07


False Gospels Quiz

20. We are called to be knowledgeable of the Word, no longer as children subject to the lies of men.

The correct answer is True.


Ephesians 4:14 - That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

I am not subject to Ashley's false teachings
---Gail on 6/15/07


False Gospels Quiz

23. We are to receive those who teach false doctrines into our homes to help them.

The correct answer is False.

FALSE, 2 John 1:9-11 - Whosoever abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.


I DO NOT ALLOW ASHLEY'S FALSE TEACHINGS INTO MY HEART OR HOME
---Gail on 6/15/07


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False Gospels Quiz

24. In the latter days, some will depart from the faith and follow doctrines of devils.

The correct answer is True.


1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;





---Gail on 6/15/07


Ashley, all of your stormin' mormon love walk went right out the window. Your angel moroni must have crawled out of the wrong side of the bed, today.
---Gail on 6/15/07


False Gospels Quiz
(Mormonism)

1. Many do not want to hear the truth, but rather listen to myths.

The correct answer is True.


2 Timothy 4:4 - And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.





---Gail on 6/15/07


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