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Do Christians Ever Sin

When one becomes a new believer and turns their life over to Christ, do the sins stop occurring? I am questioning if I am truly saved, because I still have sin in my life (lust has a powerful hold). I fight it with all I have, but does this mean I am not truly saved?

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The key, is to define the term, SIN.
1 Corinthians 6 gives a list of those who are not saved.
There are trespasses, offenses, and sins.
1John, in authorized bibles, says truly converted
Sinners, can no longer sin. The unauthorized bibles
Say we can not sin regularly.
Yes, you will struggle with lust and anger, but you will
No longer commit literal murder or fornication....
If you truly are saved from sin.
If you can no longer commit those sins listed in
1 Corinthians 6, it is because Christ not only forgave
You, but is keeping you from those sins which lead
To spiritual death.
much more to say.. E mail me if you wish :)
---Doug on 8/27/09

Christians sin everyday just like anyone. Just because one believes in God doesnt mean they are born again. The Bible is very clear. You must confess and accept Jesus as Savior. Seek Jesus in every day of your life to come. Change your habits...things that present a temptation of lust. If you really love God and love Him more than your addiction you will change. You have the power and the source to overcome your addiction and let Jesus rule and reign in your life.
---Rev._Glasss on 3/9/08

The more you serve God, the harder satan will attack you. When the enemy comes in like a flood, Jesus said He will rise up a standard against it. You are never alone. Trust and Believe that Jesus walks with you. Let Him help. God Bless You in your walk with Christ.
---Rev._Glass on 3/9/08

1 John 1:9

If we may confess our sins, stedfast He is and righteous that He may forgive us the sins, and may cleanse us from every unrighteousness.

This is the beauty of God, yes we will sin, once we're saved God starts a work in us (sanctification) that won't
be complete until we're taken home. Don't be discouraged, you can confess and repent often, I wonder
how Christ has time to intercede for anyone besides me

God bless
---Daryl on 1/2/08

kathrn, I am not Paul, nor do I have any of his imperfections.
---Eloy on 5/21/07

.ashley, out of the mouth the heart speaks. Therefore you have revealed that the truth and the Lord Jesus does not abide in you.
---Eloy on 5/20/07

No ,the sins do not stop, right away. We overcome a lot of sin if we allow God to take them away but we are never sin free, as long as we are in this world. If you sincerely asked Jesus to save you, then you are born again. You must believe this in your heart. Whether you feel saved or not. Being saved is not based on feelings.Over a period of time, God will begin to strip us of sins but we have to allow him to do this. We do have to fight temptations. It gets easier as time goes by.
---Robyn on 5/21/07

Yes,yes and yes again. Please read I John. All of the chapters.It was written for persons like yourself. To put your mind at ease. I don' care how long we have been saved, you better believe, no one is living sin-free. If the truth be told. Or else they are calling God a liar. God can and never will lie.Satan wants you to turn back. Don't listen. Hold on. You will grow and become like a tree planted by the rivers of waters. You will look back and see the goodness of the Lord.
---Robyn on 5/21/07

Before we became Christians, Satan attacked us and we gave in. He didn't have to use any force to do it. After we became Christians, Satan now attacks us with a vengnece, but we now have the knowledge and the ability to resist. Read the Parable of the Sower. We will fall sometimes, but the word of God lifts us. If we fall without repentance, then we are in trouble. Read the Bible, hide the words in your heart, deepen your relationship with God so that He will find favor in you at the first resurrection.
---Steveng on 5/20/07

we need a referee on this one. such hatred and contention being shown. just the words of men like Eloy, Emcee and others shows who they serve and it is not God. You cannot deny scriptures stated. they are fact. without repentence, no one can return to God's kingdom for no unclean thing can enter the gate. you repent by never commiting that sin again. to say you don't sin is like saying you don't breathe air. we do our best to obey God's words every day. we will make mistakes but we correct them.
---ashley on 5/20/07

Eloy: Even Paul never made any such claim about himself. We are "in Christ" ,we are not Christ. We are growing in the Grace and Knowledge OF HIM. None of us have that full knowledge. To claim you do, and that EVERYTHING you say is GOD, you are claiming YOU ARE GOD.. We are not to think more highly of ourselves then we should. Let your nay's be nay's and yea's be yea's. Eloy, you are deceived to think this way about yourself. Humble yourself, before it's too late.
---kathr4453 on 5/20/07

.rebecca, you speak falsely. I have fellowship with others, but you are not one of them.
---Eloy on 5/20/07

.emcee, I am not a sensationalist. Those who know me know who I am, and those who do not know me do not know who I am nor him who has sent me.
---Eloy on 5/20/07

.jan, i reiterate, you speak falsehood. Please read I John 3:6-9.
---Eloy on 5/20/07

Debbie has it right
---duane on 5/19/07

1 John 3 is based on the Greek word "anomia," meaning "lawlessness." Nobody who is born again lives a godless lifestyle of habitual and perpetual sin. It does NOT mean that Christians never sin; it means they don't live in a lifestyle of it, and when they do sin, God convicts them and draws them back. Sinless perfection is refuted by 1 John 1:8, which is in the PRESENT tense.
---Nick on 5/19/07

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#1 It important for new Christians as well as all other Christians to understand that when we were born in the flesh, we were born with a sin nature. When we were born again, Father God placed within us a totally new, sinless, incorruptible nature. He placed the Seed of Christ within our heart. Now we live with two natures in one body, our old sinful nature and a new sinless nature.
---Debbie on 1/5/07

#2 Scripture tells us to reckon the old man dead or, count the old sinful nature dead because it was nailed to the Cross with Jesus. Now when we sin, and we will, that sin is in the old nature, while the new Jesus nature remains pure and holy, untouched by any sin. When we pass from this world, we will not take our flesh or our old nature to heaven with us, only our spirit and soul which includes our new nature or new creation life will go to heaven with us.
---Debbie on 1/5/07

#3 Any sin in your flesh will not and cannot take away your salvation, it can't corrupt that New Creation life that was born in you by our God.
---Debbie on 1/5/07

Eloy, I didnt say it, the bible did so u r accusing it not me. Read 1Cor15:51to54 the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be changed,V534 this corruptible must put on Incorruption n mortal put on immortality. WHY cos God dont want a sinner in heaven n at present we r still stained with it. Christ died to save us from death from our sins.
---jan on 1/5/07

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jan, you speak falsehood. Please read I John 3:6-9.
---Eloy on 1/4/07

We all are sinners no matter what..we inherited it all from our first parents..we know when were wrong so there4 repents..1Cor15:51-54 when Jesus returns, we will will rise up and instantly be changed..our corruptible bodies to incorruptible ones..why? cos of sin...
---jan on 1/4/07

When you get saved from sin, Jesus takes all of it and nails it to the cross, not just some sin but all of it. When his life lives in you you will not sin, but instead you will do well. Confess and forsake all sin, and live for Jesus. Ask Jesus to make you truly born-again, to take away all your sin and to be one with him. He will only transform what you surrender up to him, and he cannot convert anything into Christ or Christ-likeness that you hold on to. And whom the Lord sets free is free indeed.
---Eloy on 1/3/07

The presence of sin does NOT mean that you are not saved, just that you are human. Jesus saved your spirit, but your body & soul (mind, will, emotions) are still prone to sin, because of human nature.
---Leslie on 1/3/07

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I just happened on this blog. I don't know how I missed it. Why would you gloat about your name. Jesus did not say Eloy! That's another perverted story. Anyway, getting back to the SIN issue. Let this be known from this point on, YES, Eloy sins just like the rest of us! Anything to the contrary is down right PRIDE!
---Kevin on 3/9/06

bruce, no, your comments are not accepted.
---Eloy on 2/20/06

My appologies. I should have looked back and checked that one (Joy not peace). If you would be so kind as to substitute the word joy for peace in my post and read it again, all my comments still apply.
---Brue5656 on 2/19/06

This question is not about Eloy's name. If he says it's his legal name, why question him about it?
---Ann5758 on 2/19/06

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Eloy ::Are you being a sensationalist & want people to take notice. You say that is your legal name, do you have a birth Certificate to prove it or is it a name you made legal? After all whats in a name its the ingredients that count, & what you stand for but please do not delude your self. There are others who are not quite down to earth. Peace be with You. By the way the word is ELI=My God
---Emcee on 2/18/06

Rebecca ... I do not agree with you on certain things, nor with Lupe, or Ulrika, or with Barbara on occasion, nor with ..., nor with ..., but I hope we are in fellowship.
But if someone cuts himself off from felllowship, there is little we can do about it
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/18/06

In that case no one has fellowship with you Eloy, for you are far better than us. We don't set ourselves upon a pedastal like you. So until you can come down to our level that is when we will be in fellowship with one another. Plus until we learn to agree with one another we can't/won't be in fellowship.
---Rebecca_D on 2/18/06

bruce, we have no fellowship.
---Eloy on 2/18/06

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Bruce, You must be confusing me with someone else, for I have perfect peace. You must not recall that it was "joy" and "joy of the Lord" that I was asking about. You see I am a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief, and I was inquiring about joy. You personally invited me to write you, so I did, but like many others you did not respond. Now much much later you make a feeble attempt to address me, and that not even the issue which was proposed, but another misjudgment on your part.
---Eloy on 2/17/06

Unless you are using your own private translation, the translation of what Jesus said is contained in the verse:
Mark 15:34, "And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
Strongs has the word as eloi - Aramaic for "my God".

Some time ago you asked me about having peace.
---Bruce5656 on 2/17/06

You asked publicly then so I am using this forum to respond.

As you know, I had intended to reply to you personally on the matter and never did. As time went on, I began to see more and more of what you believe on the forums/blogs. Eloy I do not wonder at all as to why you have difficulty with peace.

The impossible standard
---Bruce5656 on 2/17/06

you have set for yourself would be one of the main contributors to the lack of peace in your heart.

Brother, I know (again by what you have posted publicly) that you have had great hardships in life but many of us have and still have peace. I pray that you will someday have a deeper understanding of the grace of God that you may find a place of humility and that you will have that peace that passeth understanding. Phil 4:7
---Bruce5656 on 2/17/06

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2. There is many new people coming on line and I would hope that when someone writes something, that they check for themselves. It is important that we don't be swayed away from the whole of Scripture. The real issue is, do we have sound theology? Do we embrace true or false doctrine? Self-righteous is not going to get anyone into heaven, It has to be the righteousness of Christ.
---Lupe2618 on 2/17/06

Rebecca, it is useless to speak to Eloy. He has made it clear that he is the light that Jesus spoke of on the cross, the one he himself heard in heaven. What does that tell you? He mentions that he is by vocation of expertise preaching and translating the Bible. I have only heard of two persons, but there might be more, that have elevated themselves so high. They met a terrible end to thier lives together with many. We should pray for him as many could be swayed away from the truth.
---Lupe2618 on 2/17/06

Christian sin!

Catholics don't :))

Moderator - I thought it was the other way around :)
---A_Catholic on 2/16/06

rebecca, I already said what my name means, I heard it in heaven, so you're in error assuming to tell me what my own name means.
---Eloy on 2/16/06

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rebecca, for the umpteenth time, the deceived ones and those with sin in I John 1:8 are the exact same liars spoken of in I John 1:6. They are those who are walking in darkness, in sin, but they lie and say that they are walking with Christ, in righteousness. Either a person is in righteousness, or a person is in sin; the righteous are not sinners, and the sinners are not righteous. I cannot make this any clearer to you, so I leave you to your end. We have no fellowship.
---Eloy on 2/16/06

Eloy, how did Rex take those verses out of context? How can you confess your sins if you never sin? It it isn't possible for a person to sin, then why did Jesus say that if we sin, we can confess our sins and he will forgive us? And I know you don't have faith in everything. Because your flesh won't let you. 1 Jn 1:8-10 how can anyone take that out of context?
---Rebecca_D on 2/15/06

Eloy; my eyes are wide open and I have read and re-read those scriptures and I asked God to give me a meaning if I mis understood in anyway shape or form, one night in church, my Pastor started preaching on this a couple of weeks after I prayed about this. My Pastor was confirming what I already knew. Eloi is not the name Eloy. It means My God, My God, The I is long a sound, far from being Eloy with a y on the end.
---Rebecca_D on 2/15/06

rex, as you have taken those verses out of context, therefore you are led into error.
---Eloy on 2/15/06

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emcee, Eloy is my legal name, and it means a light. Jesus cried this from the cross. Please read Mark 15:34.
---Eloy on 2/15/06

rebecca, I have already opened those verses to you many many times, either you are not paying any attention to my replies I write to you, or else the enemy has you blinded.
---Eloy on 2/15/06

Eloy::Do you mind if I ask you a question?is Eloy your real name,or a representative of some thing like Eloi or elude or elusive Or elver,or even Elvis.?
---Emcee on 2/14/06

Eloy, what I stated is just like you. You are taking the scriptures out of context, you so-so-quoted. Eloy, how can a christian backslide, if in fact you say they can't sin? What do you think about those verses that say if we say we don't sin, we are liars? do you throw those verses out, and just look at the ones that you like to justify yourself? Jesus does command us not to sin, but he said IF (if is a big word) we do sin, we have a advocate to go to the Father on our behalf.
---Rebecca_D on 2/14/06

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Alan of UK, thank you very much for your prayers. God is good, and God is always good. He is perfect, above reproach, and ultimately in complete control over all his creation. The job I was offered is a factory job, but my vocation of expertise is preaching, teaching, and translating the Bible.
---Eloy on 2/14/06

ron, There are two kinds of people in the world, not one, all are not lost: the two kinds of people in the world are the damned and the saved. "A good tree cannot bring forward bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forward good fruit. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous." Matthew 7:18; I John 3:7.
---Eloy on 2/14/06

ralph, the unbelieving and the condemned said the same thing to Jesus. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more them of his household? By your own words you condemn yourself, for a tree is known by the fruit it bears, whether yielding yourself a servant to obey sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness.
---Eloy on 2/14/06

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
---rex6965 on 2/14/06

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Eloy, you may come off as such a good person who never sins but this tells me one thing that comes right from the Word of God. The truth is not in you.
---Ralph on 2/14/06

Julie and Rick, you are so right. Eloy, you can't avoid this forever. I love God very much and He forgives me when I do sin even though I don't deserve it. Paul the apostile struggled with this until he went to be with the Lord. You need a revealation of God's true forgivness. There are no exceptions, everyone on this earth sins. We need God's strength everyday. Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father!
---Ron. on 2/14/06

Eloy ... I was so glad to hear you got the job!! Can you tell us what it is?
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/14/06

Temptations always occur anytime. Entertaining them can lead a Christian to commit sin. When we accept Jesus Christ as our personal Savior through faith we are aleady saved.
---bridget on 2/14/06

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rick, Christ commands "Sin not", and you were not serving Christ when you served transgression against your brother. That's your choice of service, and not the Christian's service.
---Eloy on 2/13/06

So Eloy, That time when I transgressed against my brother, even though I asked him to forgive me, and he did, was not a sin? You live in a self rightous world Eloy. That might sound tough but you need a reality check. Maybe your a better man than me. You definately misinterpret scripture. Go back and read the entire New Testiment over and over again until you see it. Of course I don't think that you will take my advice because you will probably get angry instead of actually learning something.
---Rick on 2/13/06

I myself do on occasion sin and when I do I have an Advocate in Christ Jesus.1 Jn. 1 In 1 Jn. 3 there are statements that we dont sin. The use of the words that say we dont are in a context of perpetual unrepentant diliberate sinning. If a person is living like that there would seem to be little proof of his salvation. We are not to continue in(abide in or live in) sin, but we do make mistakes "When you think you are standing strong take heed lest you fall..."
---doug on 2/13/06

Julie, I answered this numerous times, but some refuse to hear the truth. We are made the righteous of Christ. Please read I John chapter 3 and verse 7. The real born-again Christian cannot and does not sin, because we are serving Christ. It is totally impossible to serve Christ and serve sin also. You cannot walk two different paths, drive two cars, nor serve two masters, because it's not possible.
---Eloy on 2/13/06

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Eloy, This is very important! I didn't guote it just right so please forgive me. Lupe said it right, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive". I agree that we are no longer a slave to sin, like Alan said but you have to realize that we all sin. If you can't grasp this you cannot grow and if you cannot grow then you become stagnant and then start to slip back. If you are saved and say that you do not sin, God will catch up with you on this, eventually. Read Paul's letters.
---Julie on 2/13/06

Eloy does not believe that a true Christian (which he seems to be the only one I know that fits HIS description) can sin.

Yet the great inconsistency in his belief (theory) is that a christian can backslide.

To backslide is to choose the wrong over the right. That is a sin. Yet a christian cannot sin. Yet a christian can backslide. Yet.....
---Bruce5656 on 2/13/06

5. John was giving the reasons why true Christians cannot habitually practice sin because the false teachers that John combated discounted the significance of sin and the need for obedience. As a "Prophet" you should be able to understand this passages before you give any prophetic answers to others. God has to work side by side with you. You cannot do it along.
---Lupe2618 on 2/13/06

4. In chapter 2:29, we see that He is righteous, and everyone who PRACTICES righteousness is born of Him. But when we as verse 1:10, "make Him a Liar" we are in trouble. Since God has said that all people are sinners (Ps.14:3; 51:5; Is.53:6; Jer.17:5,6; Romans 3:10-19,23; 6:23), to deny that fact is to blaspheme God with slander that defames His name. I would suggest that instead of accusing Rebeca or me you should reconsider your stand since you say you want for God to give you a church.
---Lupe2618 on 2/13/06

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3. us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us." they do commit sin and need to confess sin (1:9;2:1), that is not the unbroken pattern of their lives. A genuinely born again believer has a built-in guard against habitual sinning due to the new nature. One of the reasons why Christians cannot practice sin is because sin is compatible with the law of God which they love.
---Lupe2618 on 2/13/06

2. a mirror of perfectness. It would be great if we were but that is not the possition a Christian is in. You gave 1 John3:6-9, but without regard to all of Johns teachings. In verse 3:4, "Commits sin" The verb, "commit", in the Greek conveys the idea of making sin a habitual pratice. Although genuine Christians have a sin disposition (1:8)"if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive
---Lupe2618 on 2/13/06

Eloy, though you want no fellowship with me that ok with me. But what you teach is not right. As I said you give a text and without regard to the rest of the context of Scripture. This subject is so critical because many people will believe that when you come to Christ you are totally sinless, spiritually and physically. Many that struggle in life through many circumstances will totally give up when they see the mirror you have put up.
---Lupe2618 on 2/13/06

answered like a true politician
---doug on 2/13/06

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Eloy, You did not answer bob's direct question. Do you sin? When is the last time you got on your knees and repented of a sin, and asked Jesus to forgive you and to help give you strength to please Him more. Was it just when you got saved or is it an ongoing practice. I sin everyday, but I have an advocate to go to, and that is my Lord Jesus. You see Eloy, if we are His, He promises to be faithful and just to forgive us of our sins.
---Julie on 2/12/06

Sin is knowing to do good, but choosing to do wrong. "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ lives in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Whosoever stays in him sins not: whosoever sins has not seen him, neither known him. Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." Galatians 2:20; I John 3:6,9.
---Eloy on 2/12/06

Jerry, John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law : for sin is the transgression of the law. 1John 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin:
---Ulrika on 2/12/06

Eloy, Do you sin on occasion?
---Bob on 2/12/06

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What is sin?
---jerry6593 on 2/12/06

Eloy, I understand that when your saved that you are no longer a slave to sin but we still sin. Do you agree?
---Alan on 2/12/06

rebecca, out of the mouth the heart speaks, so your reply is quite typical. "Enough the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they called the Lord of the house beelzebub, how much more them of his household." Matthew 10:25.
---Eloy on 2/12/06

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