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My Church Had A Dance Contest

My church just had a social grathering and had a dance contest, in your opinion was this a sin? I was raised that it was.

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 ---Kris on 2/11/06
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Moderator: To dance and not necessarily praise God is not necessarily sin either. My next question to Kris would be, what type of dance? Ballroom dancing, or swing would not necessarily be sinful. Gyrating hips and other sensual stuff would be.

Moderator - Did you know that some churches are dancing hip hop on their stages now and promoting it?
---Madison on 11/17/07


Helen: What is fun to you? I love it when my church gets together and has church on the river bank and has a cook-out in the summer. Or have a picnic at the park and play a game of horseshoes. Is that wordly to you? Playing games? What does your church do to have good clean fun when getting together?
---Rebecca_D on 4/21/07


RebeccaD - There is absolutely nothing wrong with Christians having good clean fun. It does depend on what that fun is though. Dancing, unless in the Spirit, is of the world.
---Helen_5378 on 4/20/07


Helen: Yes I do believe it is okay for the church folk to get together and have good clean fun. the word teaches us joy and laughter. What is wrong with the church people getting together and having fun? Does your church not have a picnic at the park and have good clean fun and fellowship with one another? Just tell me what is so wrong with having good clean fun?
---Rebecca_D on 4/20/07


catherine... "church should not be a hospital for sick people" Jesus said that He came not to call the righteous but the sinner. Hospitals are where people go to get well. Church is where people go to get the Word which will bring them healing, wisdom, strength, truth, along with worship.
---betty8468 on 4/18/07




Therefore there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. No its not. Read 1 Tim 1:9. Hebrews 8:13, Galations 5:18- Those that walkin the spirit are under no law.
---Denna3337 on 4/18/07


Church buildings are just that, buildings. I have done many dances at the church around the world and every chapel has a gym built into the structure. why, so people can gather and enjoy pot luck dinners, watch the arts performed on stage, dances, plays, have singing nights and stay active in sports. I guess many will say sports are taboo too, to keep in shape and healthy. Everyone has fun and it builds friendships, outside the normal sunday services.
---ashley on 4/17/07


I can't dance to save myself. But the patron saint of the anti-dancing legalists is Michal (2 Samuel 6:1623).
---Ktisophilos on 4/17/07


The only reason anyone should be attending God's Holy Temples, is that the Person of the Holy Spirit is telling them to Go. Church should not be a hospital for sick people. Church is for worshiping the true God. Who is allowed? True believers.
---catherine on 4/17/07


Bob - It should be the Holy Spirit drawing people to church.
---Helen_5378 on 4/17/07




RebeccaD - You believe it is ok for a church to have a dance. I believe it is wrong for Christians to dance. We are not going to see eye to eye on this. Dancing in the Spirit is ok.
---Helen_5378 on 4/17/07


Helen: There is nothing wrong with people getting together and fellowshiping with one another and having good clean fun. It doesn't matter if they are dancing, going bowling, horseshoes, etc. Maybe they enjoy life and chose to be happy. Having good clean fun that is in order is not a sin. If your church had a picnic and a game of horseshoes or vallyball, would you join in or snarl your nose down at the ones for playing?
---Rebecca_D on 4/16/07


Helen, are you preaching as a woman.
Some would say you are preaching, and some would say, for a woman, big no, no. You should remain silent.
Are women allowed to witness? It does raise more questions than answers.
Back to the dance, why do we have to dance to bring folks into church. Some churches have movie night with popcorn. It is odd. No need to leave the world when you can drag it with you.
---Bob on 4/16/07


Rebecca
I agree.
Two things. The New Testament is full of joy. One of the most uplifting passages is the Transifuration of Our Lord. It is a magical, uplifting event.
And Our Lord rose from Death. That should be the greatest joy for us all.
God Bless sister, keep smiling.
---Ed on 4/16/07


To live in the world, but not of the world is correct. many though enjoy the pleasures of the flesh. dancing is not the sin. it is carnal desires of men that degrade it. the same way drugs and alcohol are used by many to pollute their minds and allow easy access by satan. Anything that lowers your inhibitions is not of God. I have attended thousands of dances where alcohol was not present and everyone had clean wholesome fun. Where alcohol was present-arguments, fights, intimate encounters etc.
---ashley on 4/16/07


Helen, I mean no dis-respect, but maybe this church was using this dance to attract people to come and separate themselves from the world too? Like you are using a computer? Both of the world, both used to call people to God. God bless.
---sue on 4/16/07


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Sue - ("Helen, why are you using a computer?") -- That has absolutely nothing to do with dancing at church. I am using my computer to tell you that God says to "come out from among them and be separate". God means what He says.
---Helen_5378 on 4/15/07


Ed; If a person is miserable, it is their own fault. That is their choice. There are many verses in the bible that should lift someone up. God doesn't want a bunch of miserable people. If a Christian goes around miserable, that's showing the sinners a poor example of a Christian. And in their mind there thinking, if serving God makes one miserable, I don't want any part of it. We all have bad days, that is just part of life. But I refuse to be miserable all the time.
---Rebecca_D on 4/15/07


Helen, why are you using a computer? It is "of the world" you know. Just as having dancing at church for whatever reason... God bless.
---sue on 4/15/07


Rebecca
And isn't it a sin to go around being miserbale? Doesn't the Bible encourage us to be joyful ?
---Ed on 4/15/07


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No. Since when was it a sin to have good clean fun, and fellowship with other believers? It isn't a sin for God's people getting together and having good clean fun. Helen: I suppose Christians getting together to have a church dinner at a park and playing a game of horse-shoes is a sin to you hua? If things are done in decentcy and in order, I don't see a thing wrong with it. Lighten up, and enjoy the life God gave you.
---Rebecca_D on 4/14/07


Helen
"Christians are to be set apart completely from the world"
Yes and no.
Our Lord went into the dessert for 40 days and 40 nights.
And then Our Lord attended the wedding at Cana where he turned water into wine. What was the wine for: to look at?
---Ed on 4/14/07


There's nothing immoral in touching other people.
It's immoral if you start thinking about people in a sexual nature. If you do then just stop touching.
But avoiding people with a straight-jacket is surely unhealthy and unnatural.
We are all physical beings. We are not robots.
---Ed on 4/14/07


There is a time and a season for everything, but church is not the place for a dance contest. A good time was had by all, why not at the school auditorium.
Alamand left, a grand parade right, and left around. Come to your partner, don't be slow..treat 'em all alike with the double elbow. Hook 'em on the right and back around, promenade till you meet your own...
---BeBopaloo on 4/13/07


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I do think you have to look at what kind of dancing is done. If it is sexual in nature, it would be a sin. What kind of music is used? If it is music that talks about sex, getting drunk and not pleasing to our L-rd, I believe that would be wrong for any believer to dance to any time. As Believers, we are to come out & be separate, not do the things of the world. The enemy comes to us in those so-called "good clean fun" situations. Examine your heart & ask G-d what He would want.
---Phyllis on 4/13/07


Dance contests are of the world and should have no place in Christianity. The way to Heaven is narrow and Christians are to be set apart completely from the world.
---Helen_5378 on 4/13/07


Everyone has their own opinion about musuc and dancing.
As long as it was decent and in order, I don't see anything wrong with having a dance contest at church. It gives the youth something fun to look forward to, and I'm sure a good time was had by all.
Being saved does'nt mean we can't have good, decent fun.
---lynet on 4/13/07


Well, some people were raised a while ago that guitar was the devils instrument, which kills me SOOOOO MUCH, if your church wants to bring up a crowd and introduce them to Christ using a dance contest is awesome more power to them...I dont think its a sin
---mark on 4/12/07


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I wouldn't know why you would want to have a dance contest at church. However, I do believe in dancing unto the L-rd. In my congregation, we do Davidic Dance, giving honor and glory to Y'shua - no couples dancing. Dancing is used throughout both the OT and NT & when not perverted is quit an honor to our L-rd. Anything can become perverted when we allow paganism to come in. In Judaism, we do not write out the full name of G-d, becasue it is so holy. Also, there were no vowels in the original Hebrew.
---phyllis on 4/12/07


Dance away...
---mark on 4/12/07


What is next, a swimsuit contest? Being holy and sanctified means there are things as christian we do not do. This contemporary popularity with "pop-culture" is abominable. Of course some christian leaders don't think so, because they are busy trying to win the favor of this generation of quasi-christians. Read 2 Timothy 3:1-5, these people have been given over to "seducing spirits." Don't follow them!!!
---Gregory on 4/11/07


Oh brother.
I suppose it was to attract the teens, or was it new members. We have alot of programs to invite others to church these days. Bible studies are not very interesting for most people. They need anointed singers or anointed men or a prosperity pep rally. If that doesn't do it, you can always have a buffet/car wash thingy.
---BeBopaloo on 4/11/07


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It's Saturday Night Fever things like this that make Jack say, Pop-Evangelical. I can't stand that word.
I wish you wouldn't have told us, we will never hear the end of it now.
---BeBopaloo on 4/11/07


if it was a contest then i would see it as pride
---Miguel on 4/11/07


I agree dancing in the Spirit,Man there is no other way to dance. I cry in the Spirit,and I do alot of laughing in the Spirit,too.++
---catherine on 4/11/07


David danced before the Ark of the Covenant. Was that a sin?

Moderator - David was praising God. My guess is that isn't what the dance contest did? Kris?
---Madison on 4/11/07


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Yes it is a sin. When we become born-again, everything from the old nature must be cast off, including dancing which is worldly. Dancing in the Spirit is another matter entirely.
---Helen_5378 on 5/31/06


The only dancing i belive in is dancing in the spirit
---betty on 5/31/06


Alan, you have an excellent point. What I meant by Christian music, is like music you'd hear on a Christian radio music station, by Christian artists. Music like walzes and the like are fine in my opinion. My concern is when dances have music that includes cussing, is demeaning, etc.
---Lissa on 2/14/06


Lissa ... just a query, not a challenge! How do you judge if music is Christian? Say at ballroom dancing there are waltzes, do we know the beliefs or otherwise of the tune writer? Similarly with barn dances?
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06


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My opinion is that if the people conducted themselves in a decent and modest manner, and the music was Christian, then it wasn't a sin.
---Lissa on 2/12/06


I will not post the lyrics of hip-hop/rap songs on this Christian message board for fear of offending others, and rightly so. Many of the words to these songs are salacious and of the lowest quality and caliber. Anyone that consumes such nefarious filth cannot remain pure for very long. I would ban such a "dance" at any Christian venue in the strongest possible terms! Is there any wonder why Noah placed the curse on the Hamites (Genesis 9:27)?
---Farah_C._Church on 2/12/06


We didn't have hip-hop (Brittany Spears, Nsync, etc) at our Valentines party, we had Country Love songs, like Eddie Rabbitt and Crystal Gale (Just You and I), Believe me there were not hip grinding, pelvis bumping, or anything of the sort like that. If that were to happen for some of the Elderly couples, they would litterly break thier hip. The women done Line dancing to Country songs, it was so funny trying to learn the steps to George Strait, we all laughed until we cried. It was so much fun.
---Rebecca_D on 2/12/06


J; what is the deal with you not saying GOD? you say G_d, are you ashamed of his name? Afraid of him? I am just wondering why your taking God out of your conversations.
---Rebecca_D on 2/12/06


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Hip Hop began as a subculture of inner city youths who perform Rap Music,do Grafiti, and Break Dancing as their amusements. Dances themselves took on the name of Hip Hop. Some of the moves are popping, locking, and moon walking.It's become a reconized type of dance done even by Ballroom Dancers in Contests. Some of the moves take real talent to excute and I've seen it on TV, it didn't look provactive or dirty to me just complicated. Doesn't seem we're talking about the same dances.
---Darlene_1 on 2/12/06


Moderator, what is hip hop?

Moderator - Probably others here that could do a better job explaining, but it is a very provocative dance style to say the least.
---M.P. on 2/12/06


smile, get angry, then cry. 'a social gathering' : 'honors G_d with their lips, but their heart is far from G_d.' [was Yhwh praised, thanked continuously; was Yeshua lifted up? was sin, which abounds,exposed and repented of or was sin exalted (fleshy) ?
---j on 2/12/06


I've seen people full of joy and the Holy Spirit dancing in church. I can't seem to find a scripture that says dancing is a sin. I enjoy dancing, if I turned it into a strip tease, then I would say my dance was wrong.
---Nellah on 2/12/06


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Kris ... were you taught that dance contests in themselves are sinful, or that they should not be held on church premises? Or that the church should not have social gatherings? Or not have these in church?
My own view is that social gathrings are OK, dancing is OK if decent, and that these are OK on church-owned premises, but not in the church itself
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/12/06


The word 'dancing' can mean so many different things. Of course David's dancing before the Lord was part of his worship. I see nothing wrong with some ballroom dancing (or I should say, the way it was done about 40 years ago when I used to partake). Dancing for pleasure has changed beyond recognition now though and is sometimes quite embarrassing to watch. Kris, what kind of dancing are you referring to?
---M.P. on 2/12/06


What is wrong with having fun? We are not dead. My church had a Valentine's Dance last year for couples. We had a blast. It was good clean fun. Maybe Kris, your old fashioned, and have hand me down religion. Believe what the past 3 generations believe. It isn't a sin to have good clean fun.
---Rebecca_D on 2/11/06


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