Kids Died Before Baptism
We just had a tragedy happen and now we are stuck with one question. A father and his 3 sons ages 3, 4, and 5 were killed in a house fire. None of the boys have been baptized. Are they in Heaven? If not, where are they?
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---melissa on 2/20/06
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As concerns the question of a child dying before baptism I find this verse. Matthew 18:10 to be very enlightening,"Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones, for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven." And comforting. |
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---Mima on 6/29/08 |
One way to look at baptism: Being saved comes first. A child or adult has to be able to comprehend that there is only one true God. Jesus, born of a virgin, is Gods son. Jesus was with out sin. He was crucified for our sins. He was then again raised by God on the third day, and in his Glorified body was taken to heaven. The way I explained this to my children was Being saved is an equivalent to accepting an engagement ring. The Baptism is equivalent to the wedding. It is in obedience that we become baptized. Children and Adults that can not comprehend this is innocent Our God is a just God. In other words of course the children are in heaven. |
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---DeeDee on 6/26/08 |
Children have no understanding of "free will" or baptism. For that reason baptism of young children is unecessary. God holds them blameless and when they pass away early in life He brings them to Himself. Yes, they are in heaven. |
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---Ken on 6/4/08 |
Rob, why would I study 1 Cor chapter one to figure out what Jesus meant in the Gospels?
Thats the problem with most Protestants. If you disagree with Jesus'words in the Gospel you tried to explain it away(away to your way) with the Letters after the Gospels. Even over looking the hundreds of verses backing up Jesus' Commandments.
One example is the forumla of words you collected from Romans to declare your desire on 'how to SAVE yourselfs.'
Rob, please study and meditate on the Gospels first. |
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---Nicole on 5/26/08 |
#2 For a Bible based understanding concerning the Sacrament of Baptism, please read John 3:5, 1 Peter 3:20-21, Acts 22:16, Acts 2:38-39, 1 Cor. 12:12-13, Colossians 2:11-13, Romans 6:3-4, Galatians 3:26-27, Titus 3:5, 1 Cor 6:11, and Ezekiel 36:25-27. The God-Bearing Fathers of the Church also taught the importance of Baptism in the Christian Life. Those who do want to get baptize (for they feel is not necessary) are in error.
Infants and no Baptism- We leave it to the Mercy of Our Lord. |
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---Ramon on 5/26/08 |
Rob *Nicole, before Christ went to the cross water baptism was a requirement. After the cross, water baptism was no longer required.*
There was no Christian Baptism before Christ. Christ was the one who instituted the Sacrament of Baptism after His resurrection. Please read Matthew 28:19, Mark 16:16.
All we have prior to Jesus was the Baptism of John, which was no longer valid after Christ gave the Christian Sacrament of Baptism. |
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---Ramon on 5/26/08 |
Nicole, before Christ went to the cross water baptism was a requirement. After the cross, water baptism was no longer required.
Please take time and study 1 Corinthians Chapter One. |
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---Rob on 5/24/08 |
YES, and on that very day you will be with me in paradise. Jesus said it. It is in Black and White. No such thing as soul-sleep. When God takes your last breath heaven or hell is yours. |
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---catherine on 5/24/08 |
I not saying the kids are not in heaven. They are in heaven or will be soon, being in a good state. No suffering. The RCC states they just don't know. Limbo has been dropped. All they state is the God is Mercy and will bring God to Himself.
It is a Mystery. |
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---Nicole on 5/24/08 |
How can some of you all make statment saying "baptism is not required to go to heaven?" It in the Bible by Jesus' own words! How can you say the opposite words of Jesus. Do you think you know more about Salvation then Jesus? Mark 16:16 WHOEVER BELIEVES AND IS BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED..MATT28:19 "Go,therefore, and make disciples of all nations, BAPTIZING THEM in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU." |
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---Nicole on 5/24/08 |
God is an understanding God...the thief on the cross was not able to come down and be baptized, and Jesus Himself assured him of salvation. |
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---Todd1 on 5/23/08 |
All of these children are in heaven...Being baptized is not a requirement to go to heaven.Jesus covered our Past, Present and future sins when he died on the Cross...Every aborted baby and every child who has not reached the age of accountability who die a premature death go to heaven. |
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---Elisabeth on 5/23/08 |
If I know Abraham, he's still sitting by the Cool waters comforting all who die W/the Lords Blood on them.
I believe thats where them boy's are right now, waiting for the Lord to give his Shout. |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/23/08 |
Baptisim is an outword sign for showing your faith in Jesus, not a requirement to get to heaven. |
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---jeff_jansen on 5/23/08 |
Baptism is not a requirement for heaven. Nobody can see with certainty where the children are, though many believe that they have not reached the age of accountability, and therefore will be in glory with Jesus. |
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---Madison on 5/13/08 |
The Bible clearly states that we must be baptised, Mark 16:16. But, if it was the intent of the parents to have the children baptised at some point, then God would certainly take that into consideration. Further, I do not know that God would damn the children without first looking into their hearts.
Because the Bible is somewhat unclear on this, and leaning more to damnation, the RCC developed the idea of Limbo, but that was never a satisfactory solution. I leave it in God's merciful hands. |
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---lorra8574 on 5/31/07 |
Relax, the boys did not need to be baptized to be saved. All baptism is, is an outward confession and a commitment to live for Christ. The boys were very young and God is good! |
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---Peter on 5/31/07 |
They are with the Father. |
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---Linda6563 on 5/6/06 |
It's a shame that you would want to worry about where these little children reside, especially as to try to judge them would be to take Christ off the cross. These children are awaiting the 2nd comming of Christ since it is written in Rev.. that even the Saints at some point ask how long will they have to wait (in the grave)..., B4 their deaths are avenged. (in my words) these childern are sleeping in peace, bless |
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---Carla5457 on 5/6/06 |
There is no relationship between baptism and going to heaven! While it may be wrong to assume where they are, they are probably in heaven because of their ages. (Baptism is an outward testamony of an inward decision. It has nothing to do with going to heaven. The theif on the cross with Christ wasn't baptised, but Christ told him he would be in heaven.) |
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---WIVV on 3/16/06 |
They are in heaven, for they know not the sin that is in this world. Baptism doesn't save a person nor does it send anyone to heaven or hell. Baptism is the outward, visible sign of being saved. The question you need to ask is where is the father heaven or hell? |
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---Rebecca_D on 2/20/06 |
M.A. Yes a curel teaching, and it not even taught in scripture. Baptism is not require for us to be save, its only done when we are save. If the boy underage, then he save. He didnt do anything wrong. God has mercy and is a wonderful God. Praise the Lord! |
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---Ramon on 2/20/06 |
Mark 10:14,15 Luke 18:16,17 These verses make me think, God welcomes babies and small children to heaven when they die. |
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---Ulrika on 2/20/06 |
The problem is that some churches teach that baptism is essential to be saved. If a child is born very ill and not expected to survive some parents will move mountains (metaphorically) to get someone to baptise the baby before it dies because they have been lead to believe the baby will go to hell if not baptised. This is a cruel teaching. |
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---M.A. on 2/20/06 |
Well the boys hadn't reached the age of accountablity so they are in heaven. |
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---Rickey on 2/20/06 |
Yes, they are in heaven. Baptism has nothing to do with that. They were not yet at the age of accountability. |
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---Lissa on 2/20/06 |
Melissa,
Baptism is irrelevant to the question. Baptism saves NO ONE.
The dead go to either Heaven or Hell.
It comes down to the question of whether or not infants go to heaven because they are not responsible for themselves. This question has been discussed at length here in the past.
For example:
http://christianblogs.christianet.com/1129061718.htm
http://christianblogs.christianet.com/1138123040.htm
http://christianblogs.christianet.com/1133983658.htm#1140455815842 |
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---Bruce5656 on 2/20/06 |
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