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Are We To Forgive People

Why does God expects us to forgive people who do not repent, while repentence is a requirement for forgiveness when we sin? Is that a double standard?

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"But if you Love our Holy Heavenly Father, you will willingly and lovingly repent of every sin that exalts itself against Jesus Christ and His Mighty Name."

I understand we are to forgive a brother or sister when they repent, not automatically.

Luke 17:3
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him, and if he repent, forgive him.
---Matthew_from_LA on 12/10/07

Luke 17:4
And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent, thou shalt forgive him.

This is for fellow Christians though.if a brother sins against you and doesn't tepent we must rebuke them, if they repent, then we forgive them.
---Matthew_from_LA on 12/10/07

Most sins done by unbelievers are out of ignorance. So automatic forgiveness for that is a good thing to do. Jesus said, "Forgive them" on the Cross because they didn't know he was the Messiah and were sinning in ignorance. If they did know who he was you can bet Jesus would not of asked God to forgive them.

It does no good to tell a brother/sister who sinned against you, "I forgive you" when they are not sorry, because they have still yet to be forgiven by God.
---Matthew_from_LA on 12/10/07

My sins were payed for already before i became a christian, but they were not forgiven already. You won't find a passage that says, "Jesus forgave everyone on the Cross." The reason being forgiveness doesn't come until after we believe in Christ and repent of our sins. Payment was done already , but not the forgiving.
---Matthew_from_LA on 12/10/07

Math.6:14 we are to forgive to be forgiven. Your question concerned 'people' to forgiveness & 'us' to forgiveness. I would suggest forgiving but reconciling the relationship depends on the other's repentance.
---Tommy on 12/9/07

Personal repentace and outward forgiveness is two seperate issues. For individual salvation repentance in necessary for our own personal pardoning. Forgiving others helps us to let go of an issue. Stress is a major killer, but most importantly is humility, to know that we ourselves are not perfect. Can you expect a perfect God to forgive you, but you are too good to forgive another as blind, wretched and poor as you? Without a loving God, a savior and the holy spirit we are just another sinner.
---Jo-Ann on 12/8/07

God expects us to love our brothers as he does. In order to truly love you must know how to forgive. Yes, it probably is a double standard. But if we love the Lord how can we do any less?
---Janine on 12/8/07

Mima and Linda: A big AMEN!!! Behold what manner of love the Father has lavished on us! We forget we arein a spiritual battle, and when we loose forgiveness on others, repentant or not, something happens in the spiritual...look at what happened when Steven stoned prayed Father forgive them,as Jesusdid: Paul, looking on, giving approval, then next scene, He has an encounter with the Living God!!!
---Christina on 12/8/07

We are held at a higher standard and should lead by example. Christ died so that our sins could be forgiven, how can we expect for God to forgive our sins if we can't forgive the sins of our fellow men? Matthew 6:14 - For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
---deb6454 on 12/8/07

Not too tricky.
Jesus commanded it and said if we do not forgive others his Father would not forgive us.
Try obedience and quit questioning.
Forgive as commanded!
---Frank on 12/7/07

With the same judgement that you judge you shall be judged.It is required that we forgive those who sin against us as JESUS forgave us.
---shirley on 12/7/07

MIMA::1 Jn2:2 means that if he did not come to the Earth the Gates of Heaven would be shut Permanently. We would all go to his death was to release m man from hell & open the gates ofHeaven.Your walk now becomes your responsibility, if you love Him, Prove it! Follow Him, Keep his commandments Be Perfect or else you will be in the same boat you are in by sin.
---Emcee on 12/7/07

Ah, but that's mixing apples and oranges.
Jesus Forgave All on the Cross that we might accept that forgiveness, willingly.

Jesus Christ paid the price for all. It does not mean that your ticket is automatically punched without repentance for sin...then forgiveness. He doesn't want one man to perish, but not all will come to the knowledge of Jesus Christ, willingly.
Salvation is a free gift, but it doesn't come without repentance, acknowledging our sin.
---lovable_linda on 12/7/07

To answer the question, we are willingly and lovingly asked ("required" for the hardhearted), to forgive all.

God willingly and lovingly asks for a repentant heart towards Him - ("required" for the hardhearted).
But if you Love our Holy Heavenly Father, you will willingly and lovingly repent of every sin that exalts itself against Jesus Christ and His Mighty Name.
---lovable_linda on 12/7/07

If Jesus did not forgive everyone at the cross. Then what does this scripture from 1st. John 2:2 mean?"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the WHOLE(whole means everybody) world.
Jesus paid for the sins of everybody who ever has lived or ever will live. But you must accept that payment, or it will never be credited to your account.

---Mima on 12/7/07

With all due respect, if Jesus forgave everyone always , unsaved and saved, then everyone will be going to heaven.
---Matthew_from_LA on 12/7/07

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Jesus forgave all.


Jesus forgave all without condition, stipulation, religious tradition, respector of person. JESUS FORGAVE ALL.

---lovable_linda on 12/7/07

Jesus did not forgive everybody, but only those whom came to him repenting of their sins. God does not expect us to forgive the repentant, rather he commands that if a person offends you 7 times 70 times, and that person repents to you 7 times 70 times, then you are to forgive that same person 7 times 70 times. The golden rule is, Do and say to others, exactly what you want others to do and say to you. For what goes around comes around, what you give is what you get, and what you sow is what you will reap
---Eloy on 12/7/07

We are Not commanded to forgive all sin, but only the repented sin, for anyone living in sin is not and cannot be forgiven until they repent: Anyone serving sin is unforgiven, and anyone ceasing from sin and serving righteousness is forgiven: What I loose on earth is loosed in heaven, AND what I bind on earth is bound in heaven. Please Read- Ezekiel 18:21-32+ 33:11-20.
---Eloy on 12/7/07

It is not a double standard because we are not God the creator. We must forgive others period, or not be forgiven. Why do you let someones sin against God devour your thoughts. It is their problem with God. If the sin was against you just forgive it but you do not have to associate and be hurt by people.
---jody on 12/6/07

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Blessings to you Kimbe, First of all I praise God for your love and faithfulness to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. I also applaud you for the work that you are doing in the prison ministries, which I am sure God put in your heart to do. I know this had to be an awful thing for you to go through as far as your husband. You did what Jesus told us to do, FORGIVE. May God richly bless you and your children.
---Cynthia on 12/6/07

If a person has done you wrong for some reason, if you have a grudge against that person, as a Christian, we must forgive them in order for Jesus to forgive us. It is hard to forgive those who has hurt us or done us wrong. But we are required by God to do so.
---Rebecca_D on 12/6/07

God requires us to forgive. when you do not forgive those that have wronged you hate and anger toward that person will build up inside you. the next thing you know you are in sin because you are harboring hate and anger. if you pray and ask God to help you forgive some one He will. and you will feel better. it takes time but it can be done
---Stormy on 12/6/07

Do you want God to forgive you? The one thing that can damage your relationship between you and God is any unforgiveness in your heart toward any man. Since we constantly mess up with God, even though we belong to Him. And we constantly have to beg for His forgiveness. I am sure that you get my drift.
---catherine on 12/6/07

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God first forgave and forgives us!~
My husband was shot and killed right in front of me 6 yrs ago, and I was the only eyewitness to it, and the last one to talk to my husband, through that ordeal, God laid it heavy upon my heart to forgive the man that did this, and I have 3 kids without a daddy now, but it was in my heart to do this~ and through this
Im in Prison Ministries, and write all over the states to tell Others about Gods Love and Forgiveness!`
---kimbe7449 on 12/6/07

Ofcourse not. We forgive people because it pleases God. Number two it brings you down if you don't and number three God forgives us and we are so bad so who are we not to forgive our enemies. It really is more for the believer benefit. for anyone to get to heaven each person must be accountable And each must receive from God the Father forgiveness of sins. God commands us to do. How come? Who understands God?
---catherine on 11/19/07

The bible says to forgive seven times seventy times seventy. When we forgive, our hearts heal. I am living proof of that. The person you are forgiving may not ever ask your forgiveness.
---shira on 11/19/07

Because he wants you to have the mind of Christ. You can forgive anybody of anything if you will but consider what the Lord Jesus Christ has forgiven us of, because of his forgiveness and grace we are free totally free. Free to forgive, free from worry, free from the entanglements of the world, and free to praise the Lord!
---mima on 3/14/07

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Too many people confuse forgiveness and forgetfulness.

You can forgive your church treasurer for embezzlement, but after you forgive him, (and he serves his jail time) you DO NOT let him help take up collections in the church.

THAT is common sense, also
---John_T on 3/2/06

For a long time, I had this really confused. I have forgiven a man, but want nothing to do with him and will not allow him in my home. He is a dangerous man. Today, I can forgive and move on with my life without the other person in it. I must use common sense too.
---Dee on 2/26/06

Yes, God would want us to forgive, no matter what. It is the last days, so worst is to come, and this world is being decieved by satan and his demons. So we must stay strong and do the right thing by pleasing our heavenly father. To forgive and love, as god forgives us, And loves us so much, as jesus was killed and died for us.
---winna on 2/26/06

It is so hard to forgive someone who has done you wrong. I was raped 18 years ago, it took me 14 years to forgive that person. It was hard but I had to, in order to be free from that bondage I was in, I had to forgive him. Believe it or not I talk to this man today, and we have conversations. But.. when he gets saved, he must ask me to forgive him in order for God to forgive him, for what he has done.
---Rebecca_D on 2/25/06

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Forgiveness means releasing the other person from their obligations to you. You were offended, they need to make amends. But the other won't.

That is why failing to forgive is like eating rat poison, hoping the rat will die.

Therefore forgiveness in NOT for the other, it is for our peace. However, it neither means allowing evil to be done again to you.

Trust me, I am right on this because I have experience with abuse, also.
---John_T on 2/21/06

My friend and I had a stupid little spat. It was over nothing really, in fact I can't remember the reason. It didn't matter though, the devil got a foot hold. I wish I could tell you that I was the one who came forward first but my friend did and I just melted under his humility. He is a true friend and we are friends for life! I learned a lesson from that, and now I'm the one who is the first to come forward to forgive people. What a wonderful breakthrough!
---Patty on 2/21/06

Throw reason and principals out the window. More people have died because of principals. Just "Forgive". God will do the rest, and start to heal you. Be blessed!
---P._M. on 2/21/06

lynn, Tell God what's on your heart. Be honest because he knows the truth anyway, He just wants you to confess it. Then tell God that you can't forgive them by your strength. Ask Him to give you a new heart to forgive. I promise if you will do this He will heal you and good changes will start to come into your life. This is how God works. It's up to you to ask. Why let this torment go on any further? God bless your heart, in jesus name!
---LT on 2/20/06

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In order for God to forgive us we must forgive that person that offended us in anyway. This person whom offended us will have to answer for that if not repented of. If a sinner offended us, they don't care if they did or not. but a christian God will make their lives miserable until they repent and ask for forgiveness from the person they offended and from God. If you say you have forgiven a person and haven't forgotten it, chances are you haven't forgiven them.
---Rebecca_D on 2/20/06


you were forgiven ALL your sins. why won't you forgive other?
---willow on 2/20/06

Its easy for people to say they can forgive ,its hard for me my parents abused me all my life im grown and they are still using and abusing me i have cut off all ties with them and cant seem to forgive them,im stuck , i know what god would want me to do , but in my heart i dont seem to be able to forgive.
---lynn on 2/20/06

If God can forgive us for our sins, etc., then why aren't we to forgive also? When I don't forgive, no one hurts but me, why want to feel miserable?
---Nellah on 2/20/06

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My wife amazes me! Within minutes of being offended by someone, she prays for that person while I pray that he'll get a flat tire in four wheels!!!! But she's right and I'm wrong!!!!
---A_Catholic on 2/20/06

Niki, Here is my suggestion, just for a general idea. Pray from your heart. Father, in Jesus name, I ask you to forgive me, for any unforgiveness and resentments I have. Help me to forgive (name) the person who did me wrong. I have tried to forgive. I know you told us to forgive others. Thank you Father.
---Ulrika on 2/20/06

I agree with Mima, we are to have the mind of Christ. Or you could say the "attitude" of Christ. Philippian 2:5-8
Our forgivness to someone does alot more than lashing back. We are the light or revelation of Jesus to this world and the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Spirit. So by us forgiving the revelation knowledge of the love of God is revealed & may even draw the person(s) to Christ.
---Rickey on 2/20/06

True forgiveness is "UNCONDITIONAL LOVE". Regardless of the circumstances.
---Fred_S. on 2/20/06

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I am trying to forgive a parent for what I see as abuse. I am told I will be somewhat crippled until I do. The man will not repent, as he sees his religious fanaticism as good, and holy. It is not a double standard as God will deal with the other half of the equation in His own way, and His own time. We live in the here and now.
---Niki on 2/20/06

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