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Planted But No Harvest

If you saw your neighbor always planning "seeds" in his garden and never "harvesting" anything you would wonder. Do you wonder about people who are always planning the "seeds" of salvation but never 'harvesting" any converts?

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 ---mima on 2/25/06
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one of two things will happen-
Either they will get saved because the Holy Spirit has drawn them to it
or God will harden their heart and they will not accept it.
A person can only be saved by the Spirit.
Jesus said there would tarres among the wheat.
When He harvest, he will seperate them and take the wheat and destroy the tarres.
---miche3754 on 11/5/08

The bible clearly tells us we should plant seeds and leave the harvest to Jesus. We cannot make anyone receive Christ. That is clearly their decision,in their own time.God gives the increase, not us.
Once you have planted the seeds, continue on your way. You may not know in this life who you brought to Christ or had an impact on, until you get to heaven. Continue trust God and be obedient to HIM!
---Robyn on 11/5/08

---miche3754 I agree with all you have said.
Having agreed I would ask you a question.
Do you believe it is possible for you the seeds sower to be able to show the person you're witnessing to that they have been drawn by God and have been accepted by him?
If in fact such is the case.
---mima on 11/5/08

Christians are suppose to plant "seeds".
God does the harvesting.
Know can even become saved except for the Spirit draw them.
---miche3754 on 11/5/08

mima, are you a bible scholor?? Are you a teacher of the bible?
---shira on 10/25/08

In Thailand where i am doing ministerial work to support our church, it takes a lot of time, effort and prayer to win these closely buddhist people. We are doing our best to share the gospel. We cling everything to GOD. I know the holy spirit is working on them that somehow.. they will learn to love GOD above all.
---celer5375 on 3/19/06

To Mima, The missionary can't save anyone, just give God's word. God calls whom he calls.
---Thomas on 3/19/06

As they experience things in their lives and talk about them, we share the in Christ life with them and remind them of whose they are. I told my husband (who is an evangelist) and the direct opposite of me (I am a teacher) to reach them and I would teach them. Sounded like a plan to me.
---Linda on 3/16/06

I agree with Mike. I have seen people who do a lot of witnessing and keep a numbered list of all "their" witnessing trophies never disciple those people they harvested. Those people are out there asking, "What now?" How do I know that? Our house is teenage central and most of the teenagers who come in and out of here are on a convert list, having received Jesus as Savior. So, what do we do?
---Linda on 3/16/06

I understand the popular opinion, to not worry about the harvest - but I also know where mima is coming from. Lot's of Christians will do just that, plant a little seed, and then wash their hands of the whole thing. Some Christians will witness, later witness again, invite, follow up, cousnel, witness, and nurture the growing child of God.
---mike on 3/16/06

Jesus preached for three and a half years and only got 12 who are written of that OBVIOUSLY followed Him everywhere He went...and then there was Mary Magdalene. If Jesus, the most efficient witness of the Father who ever lived, only got the few obvious ones spoken of in the Bible, then who are we to judge or compare ourselves to one another.
---Linda on 3/16/06

Noah preached 120 years and only his family went into the ark.
---Thomas on 3/16/06

if I worried about only the harvest I would walk away and never teach or preach the Word of GOD. some plant, some water, some harvest, but only GOD gives the increase.
---willow on 3/1/06

Emg no criticism intended. The focus seemed to be on when should a planter reap? Maybe we should give Robby a try;
"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant" Robert Lewis Stevenson There are many blogs that have ended the very day they were posted also.
---Elder on 2/28/06

Elder virtually everyone who has answered this question has made the same point that you now make i.e. that the planting is important. They have just said it in their own words. Unfortunately, your reply now seems like a criticism of everyone else's words - at least that how I see it. No blog every ends the day after it begins. This is a forum and open to everyone for discussion on the given subject.
---emg on 2/27/06

3. is the work of the Holy Spirit. We sometimes become prideful because someone makes a commitment and we feel good inside. but the glory belongs to the Lord. He came into your heart and gave you the ability to witness to others, His love, and His words to say. He is the one that gets credit for everything. Its good to feel great and joy should come into our hearts but salvation belongs to the Lord.
---Lupe2618 on 2/27/06

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2. Madison and M.P. explained two things, and I for one agree with both of them. Many Christians are save and don't feel save. Others think they are save but are not. Some feel they can lose their salvation on a moments notice and others feel secured in the promises of God. No one knows their hearts but God. We have seen so many go back to the world and we believe they lost their salvation, but many times they were never saved to began with. The changing of a heart of stone to flesh
---Lupe2618 on 2/27/06

Mima, I believe you are doing a great job. You have told us how you do things and I am happy that the work you are doing is for the Lord. Many don't even witness to anyone. I don't believe you have to get an answer from God to tell you the people that you witness to are save or not. That is not our call and God takes care of that. We are not called to save anyone. We are called to spread the Good News of the Gospel. The work of the Holy Spirit is to convict hearts and give life.
---Lupe2618 on 2/27/06

Has anyone thought that we are not to worry about harvesting but only planting? If you would worry about planting the harvest will naturally come. Who is the most important one in the restaurant, the one who serves the food or the one who cleans the table so you can eat?
Can't we see them working together for the benefit of all.
God does the Harvesting we are to Plant. If our planters would worry about planting this blog would have ended yesterday.
---Elder on 2/27/06

Mima you say "not one person whom I witnessed to has ever later said to me I do not feel saved." Bear in mind that most people who DO question their salvation ARE Christians whom the devil is causing to doubt. Those who are not saved do not question this because the devil wants them to remain in the state they are in, i.e. to blissfully think that there is nothing from which they need to be saved. The only unsaved people who question their salvation are those whom the Holy Spirit is convicting.
---M.P. on 2/27/06

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Well fellows you're in a large company. Many many people give me flack and criticize me for my way of witnessing. Because of this criticism I have many times went to the Lord in prayer and ask him to please show me if what I'm doing is wrong. As of this date I have received no message from the Lord telling me I'm wrong. Here's a little note: not one person whom I witnessed to as ever later said to me I do not feel saved.
---mima on 2/26/06

2. No one but God and the person know if they are save or not. I have heard of missionaries say that 3000 were saved, but no one knows how many of them were or not. It sounds great to say there was 3000, but no one knows the heart but God. We can wonder all we want but that is just our opinion. There is great many people out there planting seeds Mima. God knows the time of their salvation.
---Lupe2618 on 2/26/06

Mima, I question you too as Madison has done. Your questions are always about how others don't do a good job in witnessing or whether they are saved or not. It seems to me you are trying to say others don't do a good job and when you speak of so many you have witnessed to that have come to Christ you are comparing yourself to others. I believe you know what I am talking about. I have answered you on several occasions concerning who is save and who is not.
---Lupe2618 on 2/26/06

Mima: From all the blogs you post about witnessing, it seems you put the responsibility for saving souls on the person doing the witnessing. You ask about how to go about doing it. You seem to be concerned about technique, rather than the leading of the Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the one that convicts and saves a person. You are telling the Holy Spirit that He is inefficient and that is arrogance at its worst.
---Madison on 2/26/06

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ima ... Does God judge efficiency? & who know who has been saved? Those 3 or 4 .. maybe others were saved who never said anything ,,, just went out and did their own witnessing. You seem to want scientific evidence of spiritual rebirth in people
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/26/06

mima: To insult a missionary by calling them inefficient is unfair and critical. Who are you to criticize the way the Holy Spirit works in people's hearts?
---Madison on 2/26/06

Mima I think that it was correct that you were criticized for describing these missionaries as inefficient. They are busy doing the first (and possibly the 2nd) stage of a 3 part job. God might allow them to continue until harvest time but not necessarily. I have known people who heard the word of God (from true Christians) as small children but were not actually saved until very late in life. Someone did the planting and, decades later when the planter was dead, someone else did the reaping.
---M.A. on 2/26/06

To Donna; I met a missionary in China who in 13 years had never seen anyone acccept the Lord. Three weeks ago a missionary in Ireland sent me an e-mail in which he stated that only three or four, he could not state a definite number (which I consider ridiculous) have accepted the Lord in 11 years. When I used the word inefficient to describe these missionaries. I was told I was being unfair, and unjustifiably criticizing.
---mima on 2/26/06

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As far as I am aware the only harvesting that I have done has been within my own family and some of them are still to be harvested. I know just a few people who are now Christians that first heard of Christ from me but who were saved at a later date and others I have spoken to who are still not saved but I believe will be one day. The planting, watering and harvesting are not always done by just one person.
---M.P. on 2/26/06

mima: The way your question is worded, one would get the impression that you are critical of those of us who do not reap the harvest visibly. Why are you so critical of those of us who plant and do not harvest?
---Madison on 2/25/06

NO. The harvest comes from the Lord and we may never see it...I'm not anxious to become a fruit inspector in this area. How many missionaries spend YEARS on a foreign field before there is even ONE convert. It has happened oftener than most of us know. I say bless these dear people for faithfully sowing the seed, year after year, believing God that the results of their labor will be pleasing to Him.
---Donna on 2/25/06

Not all are called to harvest.

I was the first Christian in my family. I planted seeds, but only harvested my children. My sister-in-law, after accepting the Lord, called me and said, "I'm sorry I didn't accept Christ when you told me about Him" because she was afraid I would be hurt that she accepted Christ under someone else's guidance. I planted and prayed. Someone else harvested. Praise the Lord. Now, my brother, her husband is also in the Family of God, through her.
---Madison on 2/25/06

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Good question. When we do a lot of things for God but there is no fruit we need to look at one very fundamental ingredient that is probably missing... LOVE. If we sow with the tears of compassion we will reap with joy. Everything has to be done with love or it benefits no one. Too many things are done because it's our duty and responsibility and love is missing. It is the love of God that leads to repentance.
---john on 2/25/06

Not everyone who plants, harvests. The seeds may be sown, but not come to fruit for several years. The one who planted those seeds may not even be alive when the person reaches the point in his/her life when the decision to follow Christ is made. All we have to do is plant. They grow and bear fruit in God's time.
---Ann5758 on 2/25/06

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