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What Is Oneness Doctrine

I've heard the term 'oneness' used here on occasions. What does the word actually refer to? Does it simply mean people who believe that there is only one God - as I hope we all do at ChristiaNet?

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The doctrine of the Trinity is that GOD is one. But He is also three persons. Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

This helps us to understand how GOD could be on earth and at the same time speak from heaven. I also useful to remeber that JESUS was physically resurrected and still has that physical body even though it is now glorified. John saw JESUS in the book of revelation still with a physical body. Many of the oneness Penecoastals should not believe in the physical resurrection.
---Samuel on 5/2/08

Darlene, yes, I do not sing as much as in the past, but there are some songs taken right from the scriptures, that when I sing these I am transformed by the Spirit within the words of the song. One very powerful one comes to mind, called, ~For he is Lord.
---Eloy on 5/2/08

In reference to The Creator of all things. The LORD our God Is one. Numerically one, documented in Creation.
Refs. Isa.40:28>Gen.1:1>Psa.33:6>104:30. "The Everlasting GOD - the Eternal and Supreme Deity - The LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth. In the beginning created the Heaven and the earth. In six days He made the heavens and the earth, the seas and all they contain. Continued Pt.2
---josef on 5/2/08

Pt.2) By the WORD - Son - of the LORD - Father - were the Heavens made, and all the host of them. By the Breath - Spirit - of His mouth they were made. He sent forth His Spirit and they were created and He [In the same manner] renewed the face of the whole earth." The LORD, mankind's GOD, The First and the last, is, The 'one', The 'only' "YHVH". The Great "I AM". No matter how we in our finiteness choose to know or relate to Him.
---josef on 5/2/08

Colossians 2:9

For in him the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily, and you have come to fulness of life in him...

God is ONE (Galatians 3:20).
---greg on 5/1/08

"oneness" is a concept that was emphasized in John, but it was being used primarily to teach us of our need to be one with each other and one with God. We are not going to be physically one with each other, nor with God. This is not to say that God and Christ couldn't be different manifestations or parts of the same God, but it does mean the "oneness" that Christ was teaching us that we needed to have, must be a "oneness" of mind and heart with God and our fellow men.
---missy on 5/1/08

"Oneness" is a concept that all Christians seem to believe. However, the christian spectrum runs "only one in purpose" to "one in every sense of the word". The Gospels talk a lot of the relationship between God and Christ. I have always thought it best to read Christ's own words to see what Christ wants us to believe. It may not be perfectly clear still, but at least then we base our beliefs on his teachings, not on some man's opinion.
---missy on 5/1/08

Eloy, those are wondeful verses to share with all. I was in a Christmas Pagent years ago and the songwriter had made a Song out of the first verses "To us a child is born--Everlating Father",it was just beautiful. Oh that all could see the wonder of God with an open heart,a seeing eye,and a hearing ear to grasp the Majestic,awesome God we love,who cared so much for us,he took His own Word and made it flesh,and we behold the glory and work of the only begotten Son of God,Jesus.
---Darlene_1 on 5/1/08


Yes, on this we can agree.
I find the hairsplitting between Oneness and Trinity to be "much ado about nothing", and it causes much unnecessary division and name-calling.
---StrongAxe on 4/25/08

.darlene, "To us a child is born, to us a Son is given, and his name will be called, Counselor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father. Go, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Isaiah 9:6.+ Matthew 28:19+ I John 5:7. Not that these three are three, but that these three are one. One Lord God, and not three Lords.
---Eloy on 4/25/08

Eloy,no I'm not asking for a verse for myself,thanks anyway. The reason I said that is due to the fact there are many nonChristians,the unsaved who come to Christianet Site. They can't learn a thing about Bible without having the Scriptures which relate to the views we share. Our opinions mean nothing to them,or even Christians,without the Word to show where those views came from. People can't learn anything about the Bible without Book,Chapter,and Verse reference.
---Darlene_1 on 4/25/08

.darlene, I do not always and every time have to cite a chapter and a verse every time that I speak, because that would be unnecessary and the truth which I say can be backed up by scripture. If you have any particular question in mind, you need only to ask me and I will give you the truth, and if you need to know a particular verse I can provide that.
---Eloy on 4/24/08

darlene, I believe in One God which IS the trinity of God. But there are liars whom sinfully say that Oneness is the opposite of Trinity, when in truth they are exactly the same. The Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost are all the same 1 God.
---Eloy on 4/25/08

Eloy,with due respect,there may be a lot of mistaken beliefs but untruths sounds like they are on purpose. To them they know as much as you do or more. We all know that everything that is personal beliefs aren't always right. I just think we would benefit more by giving and seeing verses from the Bible, which are correct,given instead of just a general statement. Such as Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear oh Israel:The Lord our God is one Lord. The first Commandment, Mark 12:29.
---Darlene_1 on 4/24/08

There are people posting untruths here, for whatever reason, about that that they know nothing of.
---Eloy on 4/24/08


I can't speak for SDAs, since I've never actually dealt with them, but I know that the JW's don't believe in Oneness. Oneness teaches that Father = Jesus = Holy Spirit. Since the JW's believe that Jesus was Michael (and NOT God), that is different from typical Oneness belief.
---StrongAxe on 4/23/08

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Oneness is the opposite of trinity.
And no it does not mean what we all believe on Christianet. That would be forcing a false theology on others, literally forcing a false interpretation of Who God is. Oneness is for jw's, upc's, sda's and followed by fringe groups.
---earl_mcknight on 4/23/08

Alan of UK asked how he does not know about the agenda. I don't know. Lots of people are aware of it. I suspect it is environmental. Or it might be that you have a very easy going character. Or it might be that you like to see the best in everyone and cannot see that the god of this world is Satan and he has many willing helpers. I don't know you well enough to answer the question. Read 'War on the Saints'. I have started reading it recently. It explains a lot.
---frances008 on 4/23/08

I know it seems illogical, but it is as if the people in control want to leave a few signs around that they are doing all this. Ironically the BBC gave me many clues. For example the stupidity of their reports, the contradictions etc. Standing in front of WCT 7 and saying it had already collapsed etc. Their historical stuff is quite accurate though, about the KTs. It is as if they are really on the side of the truth seeker. But they have been told to cover up the truth at the same time.
---frances008 on 4/23/08

I have a cousin who knew all about the control of the media by a few families, and the way they own most of the money in the world. How did she know? She is just an ordinary person and certainly not one of the conspirators. She said 'It's general knowledge, isn't it?'
---frances008 on 4/23/08

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Frances ... "They are very open about their aims to depopulate the world of the 'useless eaters' or 'those who cannot be changed'"
Presumably you mean the freemasons?
If they are so "very open" about these aims, how come I have never heard anything about it?
Just asking!
---alan_of_UK on 4/22/08

Frances ... "That way you can go to all the sources you trust, like the Beeb etc. They will surely give you a lot"
Now you are being illogical!!
How will I get anything useul off the BBC, since you yuorself have placed the world's media at the centre of this group of conspiracists.
The BBC would cwertainly not tell me the truth.
---a on 4/22/08

AlanofUK, you are right. They are very 'social' as Communism was 'social' and as Nazis were 'social'. You could call it 'protective' or 'conservational' or 'ecological' or 'eugenics'. They are very open about their aims to depopulate the world of the 'useless eaters' or 'those who cannot be changed'. Those who do not fall in line and get their chips, even those who do can have their chips switched off.
---frances008 on 4/22/08

Alanof UK, we tend to go around in circles. Back to the old 'give me all your sources' story. I do the research. I don't need to convince myself any more. You need to educate YOURSELF. That way you can go to all the sources you trust, like the Beeb etc. They will surely give you a lot. Start with the Knights Templar because they were the forerunners of the Freemasons. They were the worlds first bankers.
---frances008 on 4/22/08

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It is very well known that freemasonry ensures that their own members get ahead in various facets of life, like the Law. It is known that there is a glass ceiling, which is why Catholic non freemasons can never get to the top of a profession. They are agents of the political/religious agenda. Take the case of Hilda Murrell, murdered and covered up by freemasons - apparent by the number of people involved in it, and the signs written around the cottage to warn the police off the case.
---frances008 on 4/22/08

Frances ... Masonry is "hidden" or secretive, but that does not mean it has a secret satanic, or even antisocial agenda.
You say Masonry "has an agenda that we do not know about" ... In that case, how do yuo know about it.
Again You tell us to do the research, but can you direct us to a credible source? If it is so important. you should do this for our sakes and that of the world.
---alan_of_UK on 4/22/08

Alan of UK, freemasonry is definitely Satanic. It is also 'hidden' which means that it is secretive and has an agenda that we do not know about. You have either not done the research, or you know but you do not wish to come out and say it, maybe you are afraid. Don't be scared of them, be scared of God who has the power to throw you into Hell.
---frances008 on 4/21/08

Chip, who are you to say how much I know the Bible, and how much I know of freemasonry. YET you contradicted me about freemasonry, saying that there were no levels. So I know more about freemasonry than you. I may know more of the Bible than you too. In fact, I am not deceived about freemasonry, which shows that God has given me some discernment which comes of reading His Word.
---frances008 on 4/21/08

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Francis you say ... "AlanofUK and Chip defend freemasonry"
I don't think I have defended Masonry.
I am quite opposed to it on both religious grounds (because it appears to beleive that our God is just one of many acceptable "gods" under the "Great Architect of the Universe") and moral grounds, and have refused several invitations to join.
All I have said is that I do not believe it is Satanic.
---alan_of_UK on 4/21/08

Jesus said 'the poor you will always have with you'. He knows that the freemasons and other secret societies will ensure that injustice wins. They, including the RCC, cover up all the injustice with 'good works', which generally consist of fleecing the public out of money which goes mostly to the rich, and a tiny percentage reaches the proper destination. I have a heart for the oppressed and the lonely and I have spent much time and money. At the moment I am more interested in souls.
---frances008 on 4/21/08

If that is what you get from my post then you must be searching for anything negative or anything you can spin into something bad.

Notice I said "time and money" for our children. what did Jesus say about that? What you do to the lest of mine you do unto me.

You dare to make something evil about what we, as masons, do for sick, cripple & burn children at OUR expense??
---Chip on 4/21/08

Chip::Are you saying Money talks.?does not the bible say we cannot serve God and Mammon.? would you agree with that statement of his word?.
---Emcee on 4/21/08

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We are to spread the Good News, Not the rantings of Silly women that have been led astray from the Gospel and left to their own Imagination & Destruction...
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/21/08

You know less about God & the Bible than you do about masonry. You consistantly call all that disagree with you satanist.
How much time & money have you devoted to hospitals for children, orphanage, schools & scholarship to colledges for children??
We, as masons, have hospitals, schools & orphanages all over the world, all FREE to children. We have the most advanced burn center & research hospitals in the world, also FREE to children.
---Chip on 4/21/08

Frances008, yes, some people merely like to oppose only for the sake of opposition. They have become agents of the enemy, and have set their hearts and minds against the exclusivety of the gospel, and against every saint whom preaches this truth. And some people whom do not repent will continue on this road, even to the point of giving their lives completely over to antiChrist and antiGod.
---Eloy on 4/21/08

Eloy, I think it is a waste of time evangelizing to people who even think that Satanism is okay. AlanofUK and Chip defend freemasonry. That should tell you something. So does DDM. In fact this forum is being attacked by a spirit of Antichrist, which is why there are so many arguments on it.
---Frances008 on 4/20/08

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Eloy. Said well. Jesus said He would come (as the comforter..Holy Ghost). Scripture said God died for us. All things were created by Jesus. Jesus was "..the fullness of the Godhead bodily.". Hmmm. I must say that "oneness" is in contrast to "threeness" and holds to the precept of One God in one verses three semi-equal parts equaling one.
---mikefl on 4/20/08

alan_of_UK, Very well said, I totally agree. You, as am I, are of the body of Jesus, not of a mortal man. I have already discovered that it is usless to try to reason with Eloy. It is as if he/she only wants to condemn, confuse, complain & provoke. Don't waste you're valuable time with one that will not heed the word of God or man.
---Chip on 4/20/08

Lets explore this word "Oneness"We know that good and evil 2 forces exist, there fore would it be right to say it is twoness or oneness of each Force.If so how do we determine the oneness of Good and the oneness of Evil.In this misguided world.First we acknowledge the concept, then take sides depending on ones own will.How about some ideas in context to Gods word.How do we expell evil within each one of assuming we are directed to the light.
---Emcee on 4/20/08

Eloy ... #1 .. Since in the past, you have told me I am not part of your body, I think I was justified in my question.
I am part of Christ's body (i.e. the body of Christians of varying hues) and so I hope are you.
I know several others who are also part of Christ's body, but I don't think of them as being part of my body.
---alan_of_UK on 4/20/08

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Eloy ... #2 But you say to me that I must ask myself whether I am part of Chip's body or of Eloy's.
My answer to that is that I cannot be part of either Chipp's or Eloy's body, because neither of yuo is Christ, and it is His body that I am part of.
---alan_of_UK on 4/20/08

.alan, since I have addressed chip and not you, but you have answered in the stead of chip, you have to ask yourself: am I a part of chip's body? or am I a part of Eloy's body? and then you will know what body you chose to belong to.
---Eloy on 4/20/08

Oneness literally means "full of one" and it refers to the monotheistic deity of Jesus Christ being the One Almighty Lord God, the Creator of all. The Christian Apostolic pentecostal denomination, of which I agree with, utilizes this term to distinguish their faith in "Jesus Only" or exclusively, and not being partisan to the inaccurate belief in 3 Gods which is polytheism.
---Eloy on 4/18/08

"you are rightly judged as being no part of my body"
Whose body is that?
Certainly, no-one could ever be part of my body (although my children are physically created by my body)
The only reference I have heard to people being part of "my body" is Jesus referring to His follower.
Do we have Jesus Himself blogging here?
---alan_of_UK on 4/18/08

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Eloy, I really tried to have an adult Biblical discussion with you. I have not "bad mouthed" anyone. I have ask simple questions & you respond with childish rhetoric & condemnation. I believe that you know little, if anything, about the Bible & just want to create problems with anyone that will respond to you. I no longer will waste my time with you but I will continue to pray for you.
---Chip on 4/18/08

.chip, what I write to a person is for them to read, and not for myself to read, else I would not have addressed your name to the words I posted. Therefore, You chris, read what I have posted, not to myself, but to You alone. However if you refuse to hear what I say, and instead bad-mouth the sanctified of God and his Word, then that is your choice...Next poster.
---Eloy on 4/18/08

Eloy, read what you just wrote. Do you really believe that if I disagree with you that I am not a born again christian? When I reference Bible, chapter & verse, am I displaying "sinful fruit"? People don't "produce" fruit, the Holy Spirit does.
---Chip on 4/18/08

I go to a "Oneness" church. We do not believe in the 'trinity". As the word trinity does not appear in the bible anywhere. We believe as Col 2:9 says. For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Eph 4:5 says One Lord, One Faith, One baptism. Its a doctrinal debate. I dont debate doctrine. I do not think mine is the olny way to heaven. We must each seek God for truth. I believe I have found it for me. God bless.
---Mikki on 4/18/08

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.chip, I know whether a soul is saved by the fruits the soul manifests, and by your own fruits you are rightly judged as being no part of my body.
---Eloy on 4/17/08

Eloy, Some in the body are called to preach, some teach, etc. None are called to judge & condemn. Matt 7:1= Do not judge. John 7:21-24 Jesus was referring to himself being judged by The people in the temple. How can you know my heart & soul to tell me that I am not a christian or filled w/ Holy Spirit? Do you believe that you have a special gift to see into peoples souls? I believe you are confused & have misunderstood what Bible says.
---Chip on 4/17/08

.chip, Every disciple obeys Christ: Go into the world and do the works of Christ. Jesus' Commission was not only to the 12 Apostles, but to "all" of his disciples. Jesus says, "If YOU ALL love me, my Commandments keep." Jesus gave us his Holy Spirit of power and charged us to Go preach. He is not to be disobeyed, and keep the word of almighty power to ourselves and thereby let the lost perish in their sins: but we are sent to deliver, even as we have been delivered.
---Eloy on 4/17/08

.chip, the keys of the Kingdom belong to every single born-again Christian, and all that Christ has he has given unto us whom are his in order to carry out his will and to bring glory to him. If you choose to not partake, and to rather disobey him, then that is your fatal and eternal loss. But to those of us whom are from him, we will serve the Lord.
---Eloy on 4/17/08

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chip, Jesus' Command: "Misjudge not, that you all be not misjudged. Judge righteous judgment." Is to all the people, and not only to the 12 apostles. Matthew 7:1+ John 7:24. "Jesus answered the people and said unto them...Judge righteous judgment." John 7:20,21".
---Eloy on 4/17/08

chip, Do you not want to be filled with the Holy Spirit? "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call. For you all will receive power when the Holy Ghost is come upon you: then you all will be witnesses unto me."
---Eloy on 4/17/08

Eloy, Jn 20:21-23, Jesus was talking to the deciples that he had just filled with the Holy spirit, not you.
Why do you believe the interpretors of the KJV were wrong but you are right, do you have the original text or are you using an interpreted version? Have you attended Bible colledge, siminary?
---Chip on 4/17/08

chip, pt.1: The KJ translators did not mean to mistranslate the Greek word "krinete" or "krino". Depending on context it can mean- judge, condemn, misjudge: and it can also mean- determine, sentence, approve, prefer. The same word is used in both Matthew 7:1 and John 7:24, therefore it cannot mean "judge" for the definition in both verses, for in Matthew he says DO NOT and in John he says DO.
---Eloy on 4/17/08

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chip, pt.2: We get both English words "criticize" and "crime" from this greek word. Out of the 98 verses it is in the N.T., KJ translated it 88 times as "judge". This was a common error of the early English translators, to wrongly use the same one definition of a word in every place the word was written, rather than rightly apply the correct definiton of the word according to its context.
---Eloy on 4/17/08

chip, Jesus Commands: "Misjudge not, that you all be not misjudged. Judge righteous judgment." Matthew 7:1+ John 7:24.
---Eloy on 4/17/08

.chip, Just and true judgment: My Lord God Jesus has given me the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and he commands me: "Judge righteous judgment. Whose soever sins you all disregard, they are disregarded to them: whose soever you all regard, they are bound." John 7:24+ 20:23. "He that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man." I Corinthians 2:15.
---Eloy on 4/17/08

Eloy, no,you are not my enemy. See how simple it is to answer a question? Your turn.
Who commanded you to judge? Where did you see, find, or hear the command?
---Chip on 4/16/08

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.chip, Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
---Eloy on 4/15/08

Eloy, I refuse to play you're game. If you would like to learn the true word of God & have an adult debate or discussion I will continue but if you want to continue like you are now, I will no longer respond to you.
---Chip on 4/15/08

.maryv, I am commnaded to judge righteous judgment, and to condemn every false way, and so I do obey God rather than unregenerate clay. If you are in wrong I will tell you, and if you are in right I also will tell you: Mary you are in sin.
---Eloy on 4/3/08
strongaxe, I already rightly judged you. And many questions you have from one whom already knows his sin.
---Eloy on 4/11/08
You said you are commanded to judge. Who commanded you?? How & where do you get that??
---Chip on 4/15/08


So far, in this blog, you have judged Chip, MaryV, and myself. This makes at least three of "us".

I don't presume to judge people (at least not publicly), because even though I disagree with many (and think some may even cross the line into heresy or even insanity), I am fallible and could very well be wrong, and don't want to err by accusing someone falsely.

For the same reason, I don't use phrases like "God told me..." or "Thus sayeth the Lord"
---Strongaxe on 4/15/08

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.chip, you are still wrongly saying "us", when it is only "you" yourself whom is posting your post.
---Eloy on 4/14/08

Eloy, the answers are simple, God,the Father, God, the son, God, the Holy spirit.
Next post. Read Rev 21, it tells what the sea will be used for.
As for "Where, how & who commanded you to judge us?", Only you said you were commanded to judge us so who commanded you to judge ?
---Chip on 4/12/08


You are accusing me in a public forum (of being deluded, of mocking God, etc.) Such accusations demand evidence. I told you my reasons were based on what Jesus HIMSELF SAID about the subject. Could you please explain how relying on his words is being deluded or mocking God?

(And have you perhaps also forgotten "Judge not, lest ye be judged"?)
---StrongAxe on 4/12/08

.chip, look it up. And whom is the "us" when only "you" yourself are speaking?
---Eloy on 4/11/08

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.chip, when you really desire to know, then you ask one or two questions at a time, rather than list many questions of which you do not desire any answer.
---Eloy on 4/11/08

Strongaxe,yes,good verse,haha,I went all around it but didn't use it. Those verses reafirm to me with believing,faith,and love we have the most important weapons any Christian would need in a spiritual fight,a threefold cord is hard to break. I would even say love is the glue that holds together all we should be as Christians. If all Christians would realize how good it feels to love,and how bad not to,this would be a better world. The nature with love is giving,the nature without love is taking.
---Darlene_1 on 4/11/08

Eloy, In the begining God placed a firmament to separate the water then used the water below to create earth. What happened, or will happen to the water above the firmament?
Where, how & who commanded you to judge us?
---Chip on 4/11/08

Eloy, Who raised Jesus from the dead? Who sits on the throne on the left of Jesus? Who tells Jesus when to return to earth?
In the begining who "moved" and there was light? Who did Jesus say was coming to help & teach us? Who came "like a mighty rushing win"? In the begining who was God refering to (Gen 3:22) "one of us"?
Be kind, "feed my sheep", not judge & insult my sheep.
---Chip on 4/11/08

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strongaxe, I already rightly judged you. And many questions you have from one whom already knows his sin.
---Eloy on 4/11/08

strongaxe, you do not speak the truth, because any half-truth which is that what you speak is equal to a lie. The truth is: there is absolutely 100% No forgiveness, none, that is zero, not a drop found anywhere nor nowhere to the unrepentant sinner, but only hell and God's wrath abides upon the sinner: BUT when the sinner repents from his sin, then forgiveness can be granted but never before.
---Eloy on 4/11/08


How am I being deluded?
How is God mocked?
What am I sowing, and what will I be reaping?

What you say about unrepented sin is true. But what I said about Jesus forgiving even blasphemy against himself is also true (after all, he said it first).
---StrongAxe on 4/10/08

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