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Explain Romans 8:1

In Romans 8:1 the statement" There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Jesus Christ". Does this speak to eternal life or eternal security? How can a person be lost after they are saved if, there can be no condemnation of them?

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How can a person remove himself from Him when He plainly states in Scripture, no man can snatch you from my hand?
---mima on 10/4/08


NObody can snatch us away from God, but since he has given us free will, he cannot (and will not) stop us from choosing to walk away from him. After all, that's just what Satan did.


Yes, that is a very astute observation. There are many people who are convinced they are "in Christ", but at the final judgment, he will say "Get away from me. I never knew you".
---StrongAxe on 11/8/07

The answer is in the phrase "to them which are in..." if you are in Christ there is no condemnation. If you remove yourself from Him, you are no longer under that covering.
---Bruce5656 on 11/7/07

It is actually a continuation from what Paul was talking about in chapter 7. He was writing a letter to the Roman church. In letters we don't make chapters & verses. It was done long after these epistles were written.
---Rickey on 3/3/06

The emphasis on this passage is always put on the first part, "there is now no condemnation". Few realize that it should really be put on the 2nd part "those who are IN CHRIST JESUS"- if one is TRULY "in Christ Jesus" the word says he is a new creature. There IS no condemnation to new creatures that have REALLY BEEN CHANGED. Problem is, a lot of OLD creatures running around claiming to be new creautres
---NEWJohn on 3/2/06

Thank you Bruce, you are doing a great job the way you explain things and I know the Truth has power. We can always talk about this topic another time. It does take hard work to look into another denomination to study their believes. Keep the good work going brother.
---Lupe2618 on 3/2/06

Bruce, I like the spirit of the last post!

However, I must correct something. When we get to heaven, there wil be no time for talking, just praising Jesus!
---John_T on 3/2/06

Thanks for the invitation, but I decline to get involved wiht the OSAS debate again.

You may note that I have taken quite a bit of time with Ruben on the Are Catholics Christian Blog but that is a matter essential to salvation. I simply do not have the time to devote all the facets of the OSAS discussion.
---Bruce5656 on 3/1/06

It is 12:30 at night now and I just finished the better part of an hour preparing the response to him there when I should have been to bed long ago.

Like I said, on matters essential to our salvation, I will make that sacrifice of time but not this.

When we get to Heaven brother, we'll have a long talk :)
---Bruce5656 on 3/1/06

Isaiah43:16 Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands... We are tattoos in God's hands.

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Fathers hand.

Jesus repeats it twice, once should be sufficient.
(That is for the Arminians among us) ;-)
---John_T on 3/1/06

3. If Jesus gives life to whom He will, how can it be our will? I know this are hard questions because I had them once. I know we are not sinless yet, for our sanctification is an on going process, and we have Christ on our side. Now if we were along, without the Holy Spirit, I would agree with your thoughts. That is why I was asking for the Scriptures.
---Lupe2618 on 3/1/06

2, and I went to John 5:21 first, "For the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will." and in 24, "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, "Everlasting" not temporary" and shall not come into judgement, but has passed from death into life." Now my question other then the first one, does a person pass from death into life and then goes back to death? Also,
---Lupe2618 on 3/1/06

Brother Bruce, welcome back to the topic that many just love to talk about. can you kindly direct me to the Scripture passages that state what you said? I know what God says, but what you said, where can I find it? I have read all through and maybe missed that statement from God. I just finished one that states, "He who believes in Him is not comdemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:18.
---Lupe2618 on 3/1/06

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