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Can We Believe False Doctrines

Can a Christian believe false doctrine? Or does his doctrine and beliefs define his Christianity?

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One has a right to have his own boat.
But what good is it when one whants to swim
across instead and never use the boat.
Common sense can sometimes be the master.
I can't understand why one would rather eat the bad apple,when there is a whole tree
full of good ones right in front of you.
Maybe you can tell me.
---Jack_8773 on 1/2/08


"Everyone believe in false doctrines except me and you, and sometimes I worry about you"
---MikeM on 1/2/08


The word of God is clear that there is One Lord, One Faith and One Baptism. A double minded man is unstable in ALL his ways. Light hath no communion with darkness and you cannot serve the Lord's table and that of devils. He that is not with the Lord is against him. God is a rewarder of them that DILIGENTLY seek him. If they diligently seek they will have the faith of God's elect in Christ and not believe contrary to sound doctrine.
---Shari on 1/2/08


It is sad that so many Christians like sheep fall pray to the Wolves in Sheeps clothing, often they can be found on the pulpits, deceiving many, and leading them with a false gospel into the Eternal damnation, making themselves to appear as angels of light, but inside are nothing more then ravenous wolves.
---Cynthia_1 on 5/4/07


Christians are delivered from the power that Satan formerly had over them. Every person who is in Christ need not be apprehensive or feel paralyzed with fear concerning Satan and evil spirits (1 John 4:4). Satan and his demons have no power over believers other than what God permits.
---Remigio on 5/1/07




This is sad that Satan has beleivers fighting one another!
Much prayer an repentence is needed for the body of Christ. The unsaved are looking to be changed but they run when they see division. (The saved run too). There are too many hurting souls to continue doing this. Religion will point fingers to be critical but a loving relationship with God will cover a multitude of faults!
---Valerie on 5/1/07


I see what you are saying Graham. Sorry about that.
---Matthew on 4/30/07


From the begining, I only know of one Truth and that is the Holy Word of God. That was way before any other Bible was written so how come we have so many today written by certain churches to suit their doctrine? We ought to be following the one and only Word of God that was given to John to give to the churches...The Holy Word of God called the Holy Bible.
---jana on 4/30/07


You didn't read the post, did you?
I'm posting on the false doctrine blog, why don't you read about 4 posts down from the beginning. All of it was quoted and I gave the source.
---Graham on 4/29/07


Many do believe false doctrines, but Christians are not supposed to. And Christianity is not to be defined by false teachings.
---lorra8574 on 4/29/07




Graham you are preaching a false Gospel. If you don't mind I am going to list some things that Mormons tend to not tell those they are trying to convert. These are all in the Mormon doctrine.

1. Mormon doctrine says Elohim(which is God) is an alien being from another world. A place called Kolob.

2. God had real physical intercourse with Mary to conceive Jesus.
---Matthew on 4/29/07


3. Jesus and Satan are Spirit brothers.

4. Pure obedience deems a person in the faith worthy to partake in the Kingdom of God which take place on Elohim's home world where all who are deemed worthy will be fellow God's with Him.

5. God is as tangible as you and are I and is not a Spirit, but instead a man with flesh and bones.

6. All of us humans were in existence before our births in Spirit.
---Matthew on 4/29/07


Yes, Christians can believe false doctrine. There are Christians on these Blogs who are believing false teachings. A person's doctrine and beliefs should define his Christianity. We will know them by their fruits, and what comes out of their mouths defines their beliefs whether right or wrong.
---Helen_5378 on 4/29/07


We are to use the Book of Mormon in handling objections to the Church. God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ revealed themselves to Joseph Smith in a marvelous vision. After that glorious event, Joseph Smith told a minister about it. (See Joseph Smith 2:21)

This remark symbolizes practically all of the objections that have ever been made against the Church by nonmembers and dissident members alike.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


Namely, they do not believe that God reveals his will today to the Church through prophets of God. All objections, whether they be on abortion, plural marriage, seventh-day worship, etc., basically hinge on whether Joseph Smith and his successors were and are prophets of God receiving divine revelation. Here then, is a procedure to handle most objections through the use of the Book of Mormon.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


Therefore, the only problem the objector has to resolve for himself is whether the Book of Mormon is true. For if the Book of Mormon is true, then Jesus is the Christ, Joseph Smith was his prophet. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true, and it is being led today by a prophet receiving revelation.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


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OK, this false doctrine defines Mormonism.

It is an oxy-Moroni to say that false doctrine can define a Christian.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


The Book of Mormon Is the Word of God
President Ezra Taft Benson

I speak to you today on a most vital subject. As members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "we believe . . . the Book of Mormon to be the word of God." (Eighth Article of Faith.) God has so declared it, so have its writers, so have its witnesses, and so do all those who have read it and received a personal revelation from God as to its truthfulness.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


Section 20, Doctrine and Covenants the Lord says that he gave Joseph Smith "power from on high . . . to translate the Book of Mormon; which contains . . . the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ . . . ; Which was given by inspiration." (D&C 20:8-10)

Nephi, one of the prophet-writers of the Book of Mormon, testifies that the book contains "the words of Christ" (2 Nephi 33:10), Moroni, the last writer in the book, testifies that "these things are true." (Moroni 7:35)
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


This same Moroni, as an angelic being sent from God, showed these ancient records to three witnesses in our day. Their testimony of the records is contained in the front of the Book of Mormon. They state: "We also know that they have been translated by the gift and power of God, for his voice hath declared it unto us; wherefore we know of a surety that the work is true.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


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And Joseph Smith, the Prophet, the instrument whom God used to translate this record, testified that "the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book." (History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 4:461.)
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


The Book of Mormon was written for us today. God is the author of the book. It is a record of a fallen people, compiled by inspired men for our blessing today. Those people never had the book--it was meant for us. Mormon, the ancient prophet after whom the book is named, abridged centuries of records. God, who knows the end from the beginning, told him what to include in his abridgement that we would need for our day.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


Mormon turned the records over to his son Moroni, the last recorder; and Moroni, writing over 1500 years ago but speaking to us today, states: "Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and ye are not. But behold, Jesus Christ hath showed you unto me, and I know your doing." (Mormon 8:35.)

The purpose of the Book of Mormon is stated on the title page. It is "to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that JESUS is the CHRIST, the ETERNAL GOD."
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


The Book of Mormon brings men to Christ through two basic means. First, it tells in a plain manner of Christ and his gospel. It testifies of his divinity and of the necessity for a Redeemer and the need of our putting trust in him. It bears witness of the Fall and the Atonement and the first principles of the gospel, including our need of a broken heart and a contrite spirit and a spiritual rebirth.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


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It proclaims we must endure to the end in righteousness and live the moral life of a Saint.

Second, the Book of Mormon exposes the enemies of Christ. It confounds false doctrines and lays down contention. (See 2 Nephi 3:12.) It fortifies the humble followers of Christ against the evil designs, strategies, and doctrines of the devil in our day.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


The type of apostates in the Book of Mormon are similar to the type we have today. God, with his infinite foreknowledge, so molded the Book of Mormon that we might see the error and know how to combat false educational, political, religious, and philosophical concepts of our time.
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


I have done as Moroni exhorts, and I can testify to you that his book is from God and so is verily true.

We are to use the Book of Mormon as the basis for our teaching. In section 42 of the Doctrine and Covenants, the Lord states:


And again, the elders, priests and teachers of this church shall teach the principles of my gospel, which are in . . .
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


the Book of Mormon, in the which is the fulness of the gospel."
As we read and teach, we are to liken the Book of Mormon scriptures unto us "that it might be for our profit and learning." (1 Nephi 19:23.)
---GrahamW on 4/28/07


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While many read the Bible they often are influenced by the interpretations of their denomination. In other words, denomination beliefs are often superimposed upon the Bible.

If you really want to learn what sound doctrine is, one should enroll in a systematic theology course at one of the local seminaries that does not a bias toward a particular denomination.
---lee on 4/14/07


Read the Bible all the way through first. It takes but a year and sets a very strong foundation in your faith. You'll be asking far less questions than if just reading a verse here and a verse there. But you better get going for God's plan is coming to a close and it will become more difficult to believe as we approach the end for it is written that even the elect would be led astray, if it were possible.
---Steveng on 10/7/06


Reading the Bible from beginning to end puts a whole new perspective about who God really is and his plan. Would you read a novel starting on page 77, then to page 17, then to page 177? Most Christians today know only a small part of who God really is. They learn about him by jumping around the Bible and learning only verses. This is why they will accept any doctrine that comes their way. Read the Bible and place its words upon your heart.
---Steveng on 10/7/06


Emcee ... Maybe right is wrong. Those on the left, politically, would say right is wrong.
Nautically, starboard is on the right, and a green light is carried, and port is on the left, with a red light. Red for danger ... port is wrong? Oh dear, back to the alcohol discussion!
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/7/06


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.emcee, what is a holy mother? That phrase is not found in Scripture. As far as the passage you cited. The Rock Jesus was referring to was the Rock of truth which came out of Peter's mouth, namely, verse 16: The Rock is Jesus= "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." To Peter Jesus did not say, ...upon "you" (a pronoun), but instead he said, ...upon "this" rock (an adjective); meaning upon the rock that Peter spoke in verse 16.
---Eloy on 10/7/06


Eloy::Since you admit that some who are sugarcoated can be deceivers in Denominations, so who would you consider to be the right Denomination or would you agree Or doubt Matt16;17-19.I having found the true faith in Christ assisted by His Holy Mother, I am confident that the meek will inherit heaven,& share in His glory.
---Emcee on 10/6/06


Emcee,lol...it's good to hear from you... glad you're not vilifying Alan or me, we manage to do that quite well on our own. Words can be lots of fun, and yes, english is quite quirky.
---christina on 10/6/06


.emcee, Know your enemy, because he knows you. Again I reiterate: "Study to show yourself honorable to God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, dividing the word of truth justly." II Timothy 2:15. Please read II Timothy 3:13-17.
---Eloy on 10/5/06


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ALAN OF UK::Without trying to Vilify You & Christina I followed your instruction but added another word to strange,& right to read wrong---makes interesting reading----because now we do not know wrong from right.just a quirk of the english language.
SMILES:-)
---Emcee on 10/5/06


Eloy::How would you recognise the DECIEVER if he sugar coats the truth.which is what he is doing in denominations"Beware of wolves in sheeps clothing".
---Emcee on 10/5/06


I need to know what each denomination believes in other than false doctrines. Oh, and anyone who says different doctrines wont get you in hell better take a better look at the baptists "once saved always saved" doctrine.
---Mike on 10/4/06


If a Christian, a follower of Christ, believes the deceiver, they will fall away from the truth and are no longer a follower of the Truth, which is Christ. That is why we must know the truth: "Study to show yourself honorable to God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, dividing the word of truth justly." II Timothy 2:15. Please read II Timothy 3:13-17.
---Eloy on 9/17/06


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Just what do you mean by false doctrine. Please explain or give us an example.
---jana on 9/17/06


There is one Lord, one faith, one baptism and one God and Father. Believing false doctrine defines what people believe and will only lead them to hell. We are to come to the unity of the faith and not speaking different things. Those who do are a kingdom divided. The doctrine should be Christ as the way, the truth and the life and not carnal things.
---Shari on 7/20/06


Don't believe the Mormons. I have proved Jospeh Smith is a false prophet. This means what he claims to have received from God in the Book of Mormon is also false. Read my evidence in this blog:
http://christianblogs.christianet.com/1149612319.htm#1153398237238156
---dan on 7/20/06


Why not? They read false bibles.
---Rev_Herb on 7/20/06


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Thank you Alan!!! I'll take that (being strange) as a compliment, as one of my worst nightmares is to be normal. UGHHH. Laughter is GOOD medicine for the soul, may you be blessed with much of it.
---christina on 7/19/06


Christina ... OF COURSE I am as right as you are, but you are not as right as I am. Because, as they say: "Everyone is a bit strange (the original version said "queer" but we can't use that word nowadays)except you and me, and even you are a bit strange" In the present context, for strange read wrong.
;-) & Blessings
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/19/06


Alan, LOL...it was of course my preconcieved notion that you are just as right as I am!
---christina on 7/19/06


Christina ... it is clear from all the discussion on these blogs that most of us have preconceived notions which conflict with the preconceived notions of others. So if on any issue, there is only one correct answer, there are many holding false beliefs, on one or more issues.
Except me, of course, because I am right on everything. Trouble is, no-one will agree that I am right on all things, because they believe that they are right.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/18/06


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Of course they can. In nonessential areas. What about a brand new christian, who believes the basic gospel and is saved, but has yet to learn the whole of the word? Do any of us know/understand all? God is still leading me into the truth...deeper...correcting many preconcieved notions...none of us know all and need to be open to Gods teaching.
---christina on 7/18/06


2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
---Aaron on 7/17/06


2. Can we believe false Doctrine? We sure can, when our hearts is not on Christ and its for ourselves it becomes sin. "Whatsoever is not of faith, is sin" When our hearts is for Christ we will do what it takes to learn the Truth. God will help us for our hearts will be on God and not on ourselves.
---Lupe2618 on 3/4/06


Mima, I agree with Bruce's statement so very much. There are some points we cannot compromise. The "essentials" of the Christian faith are those that we cannot disagree on. Many denominations disagree with "none essentials" those don't compromise our faith as Christians. I believe many points here are none essentials. We are called to defend the faith, when we do we sent God's Truth out and God will do His will with His Word. We cannot change anyone but God can.
---Lupe2618 on 3/4/06


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"One must follow the correct doctrines I propose as apposed to the false doctrines proposed by the clearly wrong heretical people who disagree with me and my correct doctrines"
---SLCGuy on 3/4/06


I agree with you, Bruce, but perhaps it might do to state how a person becomes a Christian in case someone who reads this isn't one yet.

Rom 10:9&10:
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
---Jeffrey on 3/3/06


If two people dissagree on a point of doctrine, either one is wrong and the other right or they are both wrong. There are many such points on which we can agree to dissagree.

What cannot be compromised is the core belief as to how a person becomes a Christian. In cases where this was an issue, Paul took great pains to make it clear where the truth was and that there were false teachers that were bringing another (false) gospel.
---Bruce5656 on 3/3/06


"If man was meant to fly, he would have been born with wings". That equates to; If a person was meant to be a Christian he would be born with perfect understanding of the Bible. NO. We walk in the light we know and should offer back to God what we don't understand. Then we must be humble enough to celebrate new revelation from God when we are old enough (spiritually) to follow it.
---mikefl on 3/2/06


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No, the doctrine proves itself. And the first people that called themselves Christians called themselves Christian to set themselves apart.
---gregg on 3/2/06


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The good news is that God has given us apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers to fully equip us do His work, which is to build up the body of Christ. And when Christ comes back, we'll all believe the same things that Christ knows today.

Eph 4:13:
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
---Jeffrey on 3/2/06


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Of course Christians can believe false doctrine! Just look at the beliefs of the different denominations, or, for that matter, the different beliefs of the people who post in these forums. They can't all be right!

If we allow our beliefs to define our Christianity, rather than changing our minds to believe what the Word says, we're making up our own religion. But God will not change to fit what we believe! After all, He made us; we didn't make Him!
---Jeffrey on 3/2/06


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