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Please show me the scripture that has Rapture in it. I just can't seem to find that word in Gods word.

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The word rapture is not in the Bible but the defination of rapture is to be cought up

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

"For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be cought up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
---Mary on 11/30/09


Well can I also be saved by my works and my rightous acts?
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/30/09


Pastor Jim, your relative Truth does not work on me. You see, you are wrong in your thinking, teaching and behavior. First, we are saved by Grace. Not by anything we do. --- I questioned you been hard on Mark E, he is a good brother and there was no need to condemn him.
---MarkV. on 11/30/09


MarkV, I hate to say I told you so...but I told you so. Maybe my gift of discernment is just a little sharper than yours. I saw this from Pastor Jim's first post!

Maybe nexttime YOU won't be so hard on ME!!!
---kathr4453 on 11/30/09


Pastor Jim, your relative Truth does not work on me. You see, you are wrong in your thinking, teaching and behavior. First, we are saved by Grace. Not by anything we do. So celebrating Christ on the 25th. does not save us or condemns us.
Second, you are wrong because you judge me with blind eyes, and say I'm in denial, when you cannot see anyone's heart, to know if a person is saved or not.
You are also wrong because idol worship and celebrating are two different cases altogether. You are wrong because you suggest that every pagan holiday, we should not worship Christ. Suggesting that pagan holidays, are superior to worshipping God. I questioned you been hard on Mark E, he is a good brother and there was no need to condemn him.
---MarkV. on 11/30/09


MarkV, Rod4him, JackB, and etc etc.

If you believe you are save by Grace in the Name of the Son Jesus Christ alone.

Is there another way to be saved?

So is it Salvation by Grace only or Face Gods Judgement?

Please explain.
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/29/09




I thought JackB was mostly right on.

I don't now if YWHW will judge by the Law, but there might an element of "by which judgment you judge, you'll be judged."

JackB main idea was right. At least I got the idea that many "christians" say they are free from the law, however, they are quick to have a list of new laws believers are supposed to keep. Christ and ..., ..., ..., and the list go on.
---Rod4Him on 11/29/09


Trey, you are correct in what you said. I didn't find out how great the number is in the group which want to follow the law. These people are legalistic. Every detail of life as a Christian saved by grace through faith is under microscope. They pronounce themselves sinless under the law, and yet cannot do all of the law themselves, but are willing to through you the law and condemn you by the law, when you don't think or feel what they feel is Truth. They then call it Relative truth. They can take a passage of idol worship and give a whole new definition. Then turn around and smack you with it, and in the end, they say, "it is between you and God." Kind of removing themselves from their own legalistic judgment, like the Pharises.
---MarkV. on 11/29/09


JACK B. It sounds like you are a NEW convert. I don't know what you are referring to. Please explain clearly with less emotionalism.

Are you talking about my post on Relevant Truth vs Absolute Truth.

My post on The Pagan Holy days of Christmas/Easter.

My post on the Heresy of Pri trib Rapture.

My post on Grace(Justification) and Works (Sanctification)

Another post???
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/28/09


Oh what a glorious moment that will be. The word rapture isn't found in scripture but the aspects are, 1st Thess. 4 v's 16-17.

Such words like rapture, even trinity. So far I've not found ant aspects that pertains to trinity.
---Lawrence on 11/28/09


Trey: You've made some valid points. One minor correction, however. You state that the resurrection is singular. Not quite. The Bible says that there are two resurrections - one for the just and one for the unjust - separated in time by 1000 years.

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
---jerry6593 on 11/28/09




Ashley, JackB, MarkE, and MarkV, I really enjoyed your comments! Lord bless you all, and all the rest of us who blog.

The scriptures do not speak of the Rapture, but they do speak of the second coming of Christ, and of a general judgement of those made righteous by the blood of Christ and of the wicked. Matt 25:46.

Please note:
Acts24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection (singular) of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Also note I Cor 15:51 & 52, and 1Thes4:16 & 17. Did you catch the verse that says that we will meet him in the air? It doesn't sound like to me that his feet will touch the earth.
---trey on 11/28/09


Google has great rapture info including.....
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Yes google would have great info on the rapture because Gods Word does not

the rapture denies Christs return to resurrect all who ever lived and died in him and those he protected during the tribulation to eternal life

the rapture denies Christ returns to RULE Gods Kingdom on Earth
---Rhonda on 11/27/09


How can you as a child of God receive mercy and grace but not be willing to extend it to others? You boast in the law of God instead of in Jesus Christ. Sound familiar?
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and by your very own words you BOAST in LAWLESSNESS

True Christians OBEY and keep the commandments of God ...the laws rejected are very commandments Christ told to keep

the commandments are Gods Law
Exodus 20:6 Dan 9:4 John 14:15,21,23

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous

mercy and grace are extended to those who OBEY ...Christ said many would call on his name and be far from him - practicing lawlessness disobedience given by religious christianity
---Rhonda on 11/27/09


It amazes me how people are so eager to take rest in Gods grace NOT under the law, but will quickly run to Gods law to judge other Christian brothers for the weakness of their faith. Hatemongers have destroyed Christianity.

Dont be suprised if when you see Jesus he breaks out the law and judges you by it as well, Pastor Jim.

The law is NOT of faith

The just shall live by faith

How can you as a child of God receive mercy and grace but not be willing to extend it to others? You boast in the law of God instead of in Jesus Christ. Sound familiar?
---JackB on 11/27/09


Google has great rapture info including "Famous Rapture Watchers" (note how Rev. 3:10 was viewed), "Pretrib Rapture Diehards," "The Unoriginal John Darby," "Edward Irving is Unnerving," "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts," "Roots of (Warlike" Christian Zionism" and "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty."
---Jon on 11/26/09


Jim, there is nothing wrong between me and the Lord. It's your teachings that are wrong. You condemned me and most of the world who want nothing more then to give Christ a birthday. You speak as if your final authority. You could not proof from Scripture that what you said was True.
If God had ever mention to not celibrate one day but another, you would have a case, but God never mentioned any such thing. You cannot add to Scripture. In fact we don't stop worshipping Christ on Dec. 25. It is never been forbidden. Only you authorized it. How about other pagan days? Do we stop worshipping Christ?
"He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord, and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it."
---MarkV. on 11/25/09


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Try comparing I thess 4 meeting the lord in the air with acts 1:9-11 where the lord returns to the mt. of olives prophesied in Zechariah 14:4. Meeting him in the air and his feet standing on the mt. are not the same. read it yourself
---michael_e on 11/24/09


Pretrib reasoning #1.

Many christians believe that they will be taken up (raptured) before the tribulation, to escape the the wrath to come.

Scripture says that the dead don't know what is happening on earth. They don't think nor do they feel any pain. Scripture also says that the dead shall rise and the living shall be caught up with the dead. Will the dead be caught up to escape tribulation?
---Steveng on 11/24/09


Like I said MarkV.

It's between you and God, NOT you and me. I spoke the word, so I'm done. I did my job.
---Pastor_Jim on 11/24/09


Pastor Jim, you are wrong again. I put no other god's before Christ. You assume that by what you believe. The Bible no where says that if we celibrate Jesus birthday, we are following a Roman emperior or a false god and going to hell. That is your opinion, and your opinion means beans as far as Scripture is concern about idols. Since we are not worshipping any idols, but celibrating the birth of Christ your statements are false, for they speak of something completely different. You can speculate all you want of me, for that is your choice and your opinion. It is not the first time someone has oppose my view or called me something, that is everyday from those who call themselves Christians.
---MarkV. on 11/24/09


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MarkV,
What you are saying is called "RELEVANT TRUTH". What may be true for you is Okay what may be true for me is okay. That's Greek philosophy, Liberalism. "IM OK, YOU'RE OK"

GOD IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

You're in denial: I have not given you opinion or My believe, I quoted scripture (ABSOLUTE TRUTH). God is Truth.
So you attack the messenger because you cannot argue ABSOLUTE TRUTH (Scripture). You are NOT to put you, or other gods before it. (i.e.philosophies of the Liberal Religion).

Its simple. I gave you God exact words ( scripture). I stated you either follow God words, or face Gods Judgment. That is ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

If you wish to argue truth, you would need to point to Scripture also.
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/24/09


Mark E, I believe you are very correct in your last post. That is what I was trying to say to Pastor Jim when he came down hard on you. But as I can see he is very dogmatic about issues and topics thinking everyone sees what he sees and feels what he feels or even believe what he believes. And if you do not see it the way he does you are condemned or working for the enemy. I believe we all should understand that not everyone has the very exact revelations. Some are smarter, or studied longer, or have been blessed in a good teaching church, or maybe God has not revealed something to them that He has to someone else. We are not born again by anything we do, or even keep our salvation by our works. It is all of God.
---MarkV. on 11/23/09


Rongda, more boring falsehood? When you get saved you will be able to speak the truth rather than falsehood.
---Eloy on 11/21/09


I want direct answer to your question. Rapture was not found in the bible but same sa caught up on air.

1 Thes 4:16-17 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Do you remember EnocH and Elijah? they are examples of those who were alive taken bY God without seeing death? So rapture will be possible.

Gen 5,24 And E'-noch walked with God: and he was not, for God took him.
---sally on 11/20/09


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You are right Rod they did make excellent and true points.

Let us follow JESUS CHRIST and have charity to all.

Maranatha
---Samuel on 11/20/09


When I was just about to give up on common sense and right thinking, Mark E and alan post great concepts.

Thanks for sharing.

Sound like a great Bible Study Mark E when the truth can come out.
---Rod4Him on 11/20/09


We touched on something last night in our Bible study that we as Christians rarely think about today.

1 Peter 4:9 "Be hospitable to one another without complaint".

How often do we here and in real life, accept a fellow believer with a different understanding of things?

Do we really think that we have perfect understanding of all 66 Books, every verse, every idea?

If we compared theology, would anyone agree?

We must all agree on THE basic question, who Jesus is, and other things of salvation. Perhaps even the Apostles creed. But beyond this, we must accept our fellow believers no matter what we disagree in.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/20/09


Lookig at Eloy's post, the most important sentence is:

The important thing is that he is coming, and the question is: when he comes, will you be ready or will you be left behind?

Whether there is or is not a "rapture" or when it happens, pre, during or after trib ... that is not for you to worry about.

When you die, you won't have time in the maybe millions of years before you come face to face nwith God, to prepare your case & your excuses.

You should be ready at all times.
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/20/09


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It really should not matter if Christ comes for you pre-trib, during-trib, or post-trib
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wow 3 resurrections? MENS reasoning is endless as non-biblical rapture theory now boasts Christ returning 3 times to resurrect the dead to promise of being born again of spirit

ancient Israel was protected on earth

God protects those people ON EARTH who have watched prayed to be counted worthy ...MYSTERY to many that those who are dead and those who remain will be changed in an instant to spiritual beings RULING in Gods Kingdom on Earth ...rapture denies Christ returning ONCE to resurrect and set up Gods Kingdom on Earth ...if this were not so then Christ is setting up Gods Kingdom DURING times of trouble aka tribulation
---Rhonda on 11/19/09


It really should not matter if Christ comes for you pre-trib, during-trib, or post-trib? The important thing is that he is coming, and the question is: when he comes, will you be ready or will you be left behind? For when the Holy Spirit is taken up from off the earth along with all of us Christians, then the only thing left remaining on the earth will be the nonChristian sinners with no mercy. So if you think we have tribulation now on earth, just wait because it is only going to get unspeakably worse, for whenever you tell Jesus Christ and God to go away, as this country is doing, then the enemy will walk right on in and spread out his violence upon all flesh because that is what you chose- Give us Barabas, but kill the Savior! foolish people.
---Eloy on 11/19/09


I have read a number of Pretrib writers. Most are long on speculation and short on actual information. I had to do a lot of reserch just to find how they come up with the 70th week being split off from the weeks of Daniel.

The pretrib rapture could not have been taught in the third century as the church knew first hand then about tribulation. It was a daily event. Also this doctrine is based on four main point. Dispensationalism, Futurism, the Gap theory of the 70 weeks and Jews still being in unconditional covenant relationship to GOD.

Since none of these existed as dotrine in the third century how could this have been taught then?
---samuel on 11/18/09


Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

ALl indicationis that the church will go through the tribulation. But God's people will not receive or accept the mark.
MARK OF BEAST DANIEL 7:25

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
---Francis on 11/18/09


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Hi MIMA, to answer your question.
YOU SAID: to get through tribulation you must take the mark of the beast"

1st. this preface is wrong. It does not say such a thing.

The Mark (which occurs in Rev13:16) is after the Saints are sealed in REV 7:3. Now lets read on and see if the saints as still there in the Trib READ REV 7:14 "These are the ones who come out of the Great Tribulation and washed their robes and made White in the blood of the Lamb". Now READ REV 14:12 then Rev15:2 and finally the last day REV20:15/REV21
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/18/09


Pastor_Jim:

Did you do the work on this hoax yourself or are you relying upon the works of Dave MacPherson? Have you read McPherson's work? Do you know McPherson's intentions and the validity of his work or are you blindly following his words?

Have you ever read the works of Dr. Thomas Ice? He has definitive proof that Pre-Tribulation rapture was thought and written about as early as the third century A.D.

And you should know that 2 Thes. was written to dispell that church's misunderstanding about "that day" coming. Question, if the Trib. must come first, why would the Thes. church wonder if they had already missed "that day"? Should be self-explanative don't you think?
---Mark_Eaton on 11/18/09


Pastor Jim kindly address this question.
If the churches is to go through tribulation and to get through tribulation you must take the mark of the beast and to take the mark of the beast brings about death(hell) how then can the church safely pass through the tribulation?
---mima on 11/18/09


ALSO...

The Great Commission is: We are to be witnesses until Christ returns / NOT 7 yrs before he returns.

Tribulation is explicitly for Believers (Wrath is for the wicked). All believers OT/NT go through Tribulation WHY? It comes for the word Tribul (Google it) a sled used to separate the Wheat from the Chaff. Pre Trib appeals to the Bourgeois Carnal Pseudo Christians who dont care about Gods will, just their leisure life.

NOTE: Heretics will always say: This Means/or The Greek says. In stark contrast to the 300,000++ Scholars/translators for 4000yrs OT / nearly 2000yr NT. LOL!!!
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/17/09


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lit.Heb & Gk: "And Henoch walked with God, and he not, for God raptured him...Know you that yhwh will rapture your master from your head today?...Ask what I will do for you, before I be raptured from you...You have asked a hard thing: if you see me raptured from you, it will be so...For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ will rise first: then we which are remaining alive will be raptured up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so will we always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words." Genesis 5:24+ II Kings 2:3,5,9,10+ I Thessalonians 4:16-18.
---Eloy on 11/18/09


If you want to know about the HERESY OF PRETRIB RATURE. You SIMPLY need to Google Margaret Mac Donald. The Witch and Tarot Card occultist that started it about 130 yrs ago. Then you can Google John Darby the pastor that visited The seance and fill his church up with this cult. Then you Google John Scofield who brought it into America in the 20th century. NOTE this heresy never existed before 130yrs ago!!!
NOW READ WHAT CHRIST REALLY SAID..MATT 24:29-31 JOHN 6:39-54 11:24, 12:48, 17:15 NEED MORE?
---PASTOR_JIM on 11/17/09


Matt 24 Talks about the rapture the most in detail and most people dismiss it becuase it destroys pre tribulation - when really this has an exact idea of a rapture one man walkin up a hill one taken on left standing still... this my friend is a rapture and it is after the tribulation. also in 1 cor 15 it talk tht the dead will rise at the last trumpet(aka the 7th trumpet) and then in 1 thess. it says tht we will not precede the dead.. very clear.. they're is a trumpet in matt 24:31 also and in rev 7:1 matches up pefectly with matt 24:31 also and they're is more than 144,000 christian left on earth so many no one can number, we can number billions of people!!
---cj_brake on 11/17/09


Here is a couple places you will find the rapture,(not the word)1Cor. 15:51-53 1Thess. 4:13-17 and Rev. Chapter 4.v1. The church is never mentioned again on earth after chapter 4.
---Pastor_Herb on 3/1/09


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Whens the last time you read the word trinity in the bible? Does that mean you do not believe in the Trinity either? kate

The teaching about the trinity is in Scripture. But JESUS never taught the rapture and it was invented in the early 1900's. There is no scripture that teaches the opposite of what JESUS says.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.


Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
---Samuel on 2/26/09


Whens the last time you read the word trinity in the bible? Does that mean you do not believe in the Trinity either?
---kate on 2/25/09


To keep things simple, do not worry about when Jesus will return, just be ready. How do you do that? Do an online bible search for "one another," "each other," and "encourag" because living a Christian life is a 24/7 lifestyle. Do everything to the glory of God even if it's just being a dishwasher in a restaurant. If you wash dishes to glorify God (and not just your boss), your boss will be blessed with a good worker.

It is said that faith is dead without works.

Besides, every person you bring into and continue to encourage that person to stay on the path towards the Kingdom of God, your work will cover a multitude of sins. The harvest is plenty, the workers are few.
---Steveng on 1/21/09


Paul in scripture said he hoped to attain unto the resurrection. Paul didn't teach a pre-trib. rapture. Jesus will truly come as a thief in the night on all that don't know the scripture.
---Truth_Now on 1/19/09


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Paul in scripture said, he hoped to attain unto the resurrection. Martha, when speaking to Jesus before he raised Lazarus from the dead, said she knew her brother would rise in the resurrection. This should not be hard to understand. There are numerous other scripture on the resurrection. Rapture only means a snatching away. I think our Lord will return at the first resurrection but if it gives christians comfort to believe they will be gone during that time, I suppose its a comfort to them.
---Truth_Now on 1/19/09


Peters inspiration in 2 Peter 3:10 to combine his reference to *thief* with his statement about the *heavens passing away* indicates to me that the Day of the Lord covers a multitude of events that occur during an extended period of time and not a single moment, as scripture indicates the heavens passing away and the destruction of the earth by fire occur after the thousand year millennial reign of Christ on earth.

Therefore this verse indicates that come as a thief refers to the unexpected commencement of an event of undetermined length and not to a single secret moment only observed by the Saints.
---David on 1/17/09


The word rapture is not in the bible
---Betty on 1/17/09


Steveng I agree about the one public return of Christ. However scriptures leave room for discussion about details. For example the tares ARE gathered first: Matt 13:30 Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. * * * Matt 13:49 So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, * * * Matt 24:40 Then shall two be in the field, the one shall be taken, and the other left. NOTE: Matthew does not state Who will be taken and who will be left. I believe all prophesy will be fulfilled although I dont see exactly how.
---David on 1/16/09


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You are correct Ashely we await the Second Coming. Where we will be raptured or caught up to meet JESUS in the air. The dead asleep in JESUS will rise up and meet the living there. I Thess 4

The secret rapture theory is based on three main doctrines.

Futurism that the antichrist is a future being and all propesy is about the future.

Dispensationalism a divding of Scripture by Schofield and Darby into sections instead of an everlasting covenant.

The division of the Church and Israel into two distinct groups where Christians get away from having to go through the last tribulation while Jews have to suffer.

I disagree with all three points.
---Samuel on 1/12/09


it never ceases to amaze me how others can complicate things or invent new theologies to justify their own ignorance. There is only one second coming and everyone will see it, old and young, bond and free, male and female, **(wicked and the righteous)**. If all the righteous have been taken in a rapture, who are the righteous still on the earth that will be resurrected in the twinkling of an eye. The bible is explicit in saying the wicked will remain when the righteous are taken like separating wheat from chaff. If a rapture is true, it has just nullified and proved the rest of the bible false that says his second coming will be seen by everyone with no exceptions. Again, just another man-made doctrine to blind the eyes of everyone as truth.
---ashley on 1/11/09


The rapture to many Christians is implied when verses are taken out of context. But let's shine some light on the subject and reason this out.

First, There is only One Judgement Day, not two. If people are raptured then judgement has been pronounced, because the Christians were taken and the evil people left on Earth. But it is written that both the tares and the wheat will be harvested at the same time.
---Steveng on 1/9/09


Thanks for your comment Pastor Danny. That is helpful. The concept of the rapture (snatching up) Does appear throughtout scripture mainly in types in much the same way as do the prophecies of Christ's first coming. One of the big mistakes many people make is to confuse the rapture with His second coming. These are distinctly seperate events both of which much is said by the prophets, apostles, and Jesus Himself. Two of the main type references are the accounts of Noah and Lot contrasted in second Peter. Jesus is not "coming" to earth at this event, but we will "meet Him in the air". We will return with Him when He comes on a white horse to take His throne on the earth. Thomas Ice is one good teacher for timeline helps.
---Dave on 1/9/09


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The rapture is referred to in I.corinthian chap.I5, 5O-55 Paul also refers directly to the Raptures in I Thessalonians chap.4 verse I6-I7. though he does not call it "Raptures"
---Geri_Ann_Clarke on 7/18/07


The English translated word "rapture" is not found in the Bible. However, niether is the word "trinity", but do you believe in a triune God? Just food for thought.
---Jeremiah on 7/4/07


when Jesus returns to usher in the first resurrection, every eye will see him. the righteous will put on immortality from mortality, people living will be changed in a twinkling of an eye and they will know they will return to the kingdom of Jesus Christ. those who do evil, including many christians will await the second resurrection. thus one shall be taken and one left in the field etc. it is so simple. why complicate it.
---ashley on 5/25/07


(1) In 2 Timothy 2:18, Paul speaks of false messengers "who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past" > this "resurrection" is what I understand Paul is talking about in 1 Corinthians 15:50-54.

This resurrection will include Christians who have died and then any of us who are still alive on this earth. And this resurrection is what ones mean by the Rapture.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/25/07


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Jesus speaks much of His words abiding in us as part of loving Him,the Father and in one place states it as a part of salvation. These WORDS were not the red ones found in the New Test.He IS the WORD What He taught was very specific and repetative. If the rapture were true,it would have been discussed by him(at least once)but there is no word mentioned.There was not even a parable.This is mans teaching.It would be great if it were true.We must watch re words we accept as they are ESSENTIAL TO CHRIST
---jody on 5/25/07


(2) So, the Bible does not use the word "Rapture"; but the term Rapture means the end-time resurrection of all Christians...first those who are already dead, then anyone still alive gets raptured, without dying first. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 clearly shows us that "the dead in Christ will rise first."

"Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord." (next verse)
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/25/07


(3) There are belivers who use the term Rapture to mean the "resurrection" that Paul was talking about in 2 Timothy 2:18. And "rapture" in a secular dictionary can mean ecstasy of joy AND carrying someone to another realm of existence, I understand.

So - - since the resurrection will have us with Jesus our Groom in great joy, AND we will have been carried into His Heavenly realm - - I'd say Rapture is a scriptural term.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/25/07


(4) But we have people who consider the Rapture to mean the return of Jesus to gather His Church-Bride BEFORE the great tribulation.

In a post below, Lissa on 3/6/06 has given the main reason why a number of fundamentalists believe this.

But no scripture says, in plain language, anything like, "Jesus will come back before the great tribulation."
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/25/07


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So...if by Rapture you mean a "pre-trib" resurrection, no I can't give you scripture that says this.

BUT > Paul says the scripturally taught Rapture will occur "at the last trumpet" > 1 Corinthians 15:52 > and Jesus Himself clearly does say that "Immediately after the tribulation of those days" (Matthew 24:29), "with the great sound of a trumpet" (verse 31), He will gather His "elect" (verse 31).
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/25/07


I am 60,been a Christian since 18,and I have never found a verse that mentions the rapture, there are several theories about the 2nd coming,they all agree on one thing,Jesus is going to return,there are scriptures to support thast.I am happy to await his return and learn the details at the time,if there is a rapture fine,if not fine too,just believe he is comimng back to claim the world from satan
---doree4573 on 5/25/07


You forgot one small detail, there is no such thing as a rapture, but you are deceiving many by saying God returns before he is to return to signal the first resurrection. thesalonians is talking about the first resurrection. nothing more nothing less. if you want to prove rapture theories pull out scriptures that don't talk about the first resurrection and sorry to say, it can't be done.
---ashley on 5/25/07


Lynn:In 1Thessalions 4:17 the Gr.word for caught up is harpazo means seize,snatch .and the Latin word for carry off is raptus from where we get our word rapture.Pastor Danny
---Pastor_Danny_Ray on 5/25/07


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Read Mat:24:9 We will endure tribulation just as Daniel did just as Jesus did. He will lead us to a safe place on earth where angels will protect us unitl Jesus comes.Secret rapture is not Biblical at all.Every eye shall see Him when he returns only a second time not a 3'rd.
---janua348 on 12/5/06


Satan, in his increasing arsenal of God denying games, is happy when just one person turns his back on God or starts to question His Word. He must be doing cartwheels upon the tips of the flames of Hell and crying out in hysterical joy with the small percentage of people who were once Christians, but are now questioning the God's Word after reading the Left Behind novels and DiVinci Code fables. Get back to reading the Word, allowing the Holy Spirit to bring understanding.
---Steven on 6/17/06


There aren't any! "Rapture" is a word made up. In the Bible, the closest reference to "rapture" is 1 Corinthians 15:12
---WIVV on 6/15/06


The time has come when people will not endure sound doctrine; but burn after their own thoughts and follow teachers, and listening to doctrines they want to hear. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables as much as The Left Behind novels and the DiVinci Code fables. How could you say you are wise and the grace of the Lord is with you when you read fables instead of the Bible to find the truth? But there is Hope.
---Steven on 6/13/06


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Lynn; Who are you speaking to about God trying to tell someone something? And what is he trying to say?
---Rebecca_D on 3/12/06


God is trying to tell you something..
---Lynn on 3/12/06


The word "Rapture" is not found in the Bible, however the concept is. Just like the Holy Trinity, the word is not there but the concept is.The Rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (ETC) describes the Rapture as God resurrecting all believers who have died, giving them glorified bodies, and then departing the earth with those believers who were still alive, who have also been given glorified bodies.
---Ramon on 3/6/06


The word "rapture" is not found in the Bible. But it says that Jesus will come as a theif in the night to take His own to be with Him. I believe we will be "raptured" before the second coming. I don't believe Jesus would allow those of us who are saved before the tribulation to go through such a horrible time.
---Lissa on 3/6/06


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The English word "rapture" is not in the Bible but lThes.4:17 says we will be caught up in the clouds to meet Him in the air, and so shall we ever be with Him. To be "caught up" means rapture. The word may not be in the text but the doctrine is.
---john on 3/6/06


You will not find the word "rapture" in the bible. Look under second coming of Christ.
---Rebecca_D on 3/5/06


The word, "rapture" is not in the Bible. "Man" coined this word. But, the idea is found in I Corinthians 15:52 and in I Thess. 4:17 "Rapture" , in this context, means an event that will happen quickly
---WIVV on 3/5/06


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