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Does God Perform For Us

Can mere man put God under an obligation to perform His word? If we saw this as a great truth, could we then not accomplish great things?

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God responds to His children's prayers as a father would to his little girl's or boy's requests. He loves to give us good gifts but He is not a magic genie to be manipulated to do our will.
---Robin on 8/3/07


I read your answer, again.
When a former Catholic swaps over to Word Faith, and starts repeating a notebook full of Scriptures, that's repetitive prayer all over again.
I agree with you, Josef, a doubleminded man will receive nothing from the Lord. God would rather you asked Him for His will in a situation, rather than making demands of Him by picking Scriptures that apply to your desires, reciting them daily.
---Crystal on 8/2/07


Josef, that was excellent. There are some here that tell others to put scriptures in a notebook and quote them back to God, repeat until all your prayers are answered. But those are also the same people here who have daily dilemmas, workplace, love life, something is wrong weekly. I see little victory in their own lives, with the Word of Faith lingo they rattle off to others. If it was working so well, why are they in a panic all of the time. Good explanation.
---Crystal on 8/2/07


John 14:13
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
John 14:14
If ye shall ask anything in my name, that will I do.John 16:23
And in that day ye shall ask me no question. Verily, verily, I say unto you, if ye shall ask anything of the Father, he will give it you in my name.
---Lisa on 8/2/07


Crystal I apologize for the delay in responding to your questions, I've just noticed them.

"Josef, the blog title, Does God Perform for Us?" No. "Why should He. God is God." I agree.

"Does quoting the Word back to Him obligate Him to fulfill our hearts desires?" No. "For the wicked boast (celebrates & makes a show) of his hearts desire, and blesses the covetous, whom the LORD abhors (detest)." Cont.Pt.2
---Josef on 8/2/07




Crystal Pt.2"...Is that also considered repetitive prayer...?" Yes, and repetitive prayers are unnecessary, for the Father knows what we have need of, even before we pray. We must confidently know that whatsoever we ask of Him, 'according to his will', He hears us and grants our request. Repetition reflects doubt and double mindedness, which hinders or even negates ones ability to receive due to inconstancy.
"explain the fine line between Word of Faith and what you said." Cont.Pt.3
---Josef on 8/2/07


Crystal, Father is ever aware of His promises, and watches over His word to perform it. However attached to those promises are conditions that must be met by those who would claim them. Quoting the promises to Him without meeting the conditions for their fulfillment is futile. Also, Father does not grant a mans desire simply to have that man waste or spend it on his own sensual pleasure. Man receives power from the LORD to increase, with no sorrow added, in direct proportion to his wiliness to give.
---Josef on 8/2/07


How can two walk together except they be agreed?

Agreement, at its very least, is a nod of the head. At its next level, it is to say the same thing as. At its highest level, it is to walk just like. If you were my boss and you sent me into a meeting to speak as you, then I would have to say what you say to be in full agreement.
---Linda on 7/29/07


If Father God says that I am blessed with every spiritual blessing in Christ and I am saying that I am cursed with every curse in Adam, then I am in disagreement and I shall have what I say. If you want the dog, don't call the cat.
---Linda on 7/29/07


Josef, would you please explain the fine line between Word of Faith and what you said.
There are many here who follow almost the New Age practice of using the Word like positive affirmations. They write down want answer they want, quote it back to God as many times a day until they believe the answers will be theirs. I would like to hear your interpretation about quoting Scripture for a jet plane vs. speaking God's Word back to Him.
---Crystal on 7/29/07




Josef, the blog title, Does God Perform for Us? Why should He. God is God. Does quoting the Word back to Him obligate Him to fulfill our hearts desires? Please elaborate some more as many here follow the Word of Faith teachings. They rebuke Catholics for repetitive prayers but in the same breath, repeat their notebook full of Scriptures each and every day. Is that also considered repetitive prayer, trading in a traditional prayer for one they've constructed? Thanks, Josef.
---Crystal on 7/29/07


---Josef says what I meant much better than I did "This is our Father's word to us "I even I, am He that blots out your transgressions for My sake, and will not remember your sins. Put Me in remembrance" This last part "put me in remembrance" IF that is not talking about quoting His word back to Him what is He talking about?
---Mina on 7/29/07


We can't and don't accomplish great things,on our own, anyway. We need God for everything that we do. I mean everything. We are nothing apart from our mighty and gracious God. He is my all and all. What did you think? God will perform His Word in His time and in His way. We can't force God to do anything. He is the Boss!
---Robyn on 7/28/07


"My question should have asked does God let mere man remind him of his word? The answer of course is yes. God delights in hearing his word quoted back to him. In fact he is standing by to perform his word" mima on 3/14/06
I agree completely. This is our Father's word to us "I even I, am He that blots out your transgressions for My sake, and will not remember your sins. Put Me in remembrance, Let us plead together: declare it, that you may be justified."
---Josef on 7/28/07


Mima) Ha. Get real. That sounds so arrogant. God has made covenant with man(HIS covenant). He has made promises. (His promises). WE DO NOT ACCOMPLISH anything HE does according to HIS WILL and PROMISES. We are obligated to obey HIM not the other way around. He does not have to do anything outside of His will.
---jody on 7/28/07


If we will pray as Jesus prayed, we will pray "Not my will but thy will be done."
Matt 6:10, 26:42
---Bruce5656 on 7/28/07


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To John, Your referring to a post 3-18 to Rickey. The first sentence is what your referring to, but would you read the scripture I pointed out and it will bear out what my point was and it seems was yours also.
---Thomas on 3/20/06


john, yes we command, but we Christians do not command our Commander Christ. The servant is not greater than his lord, it is enough that the servant is as his master.
---Eloy on 3/20/06


If the commander tells us to command then we become commanders too.
---john on 3/20/06


Thomas. If God doesn't react or is not influnced by anything then how would you explain that God was going to destroy the Israelites but Moses begged God to keep them alive and God repented of his intention to kill them all? And Nineveh. It was going to be destroyed but the people rependted and God changed His mind. Don't you think God responds to our prayers?
---john on 3/19/06


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The word God means Commander. He is the Commander, and we are the commandee, not vice versa.
---Eloy on 3/19/06


Rickey whose been teaching you that word-faith gospel? Has God ever said he would repent of a particular thing that he had said? Psalms 135:14 Jer. 18:8 Jer. 18:10 Jer. 26:13 Jer. 42:10 Ezekiel 24:14 Joel 2:14 Jonah 3:9 Just some thoughts.
---Thomas on 3/18/06


John, I am CERTAIN that God reacts to nothing! You may read things that you perceive as God reacting, but, as I stated before, God is not influenced by anything, he decrees what will happen from the beginning. To say that He reacts to something puts Him in the category of being able to be surprised, or not in total control of all things. The God I read of in the Bible says that He does ALL things according to the counsel of His own will.
---tommy3007 on 3/14/06


Willow, God does have to bless us in many ways. His word promises it. He has held His Ownself accountable to His word. He exalts His word above His Name.(Psalms 138:2) Salvation is much more than not going to hell. Soza,grk for salvation, means prosperity(2Corinthians 8:9);healing(3John2); deliverance; peace. SO, we, as God kids have been promised alot of things we just have to layhold of them.
---Rickey on 3/14/06


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To John, I recall giving you a scripture to read. Is that what you got out of the scripture, since I don't recall saying it the way you stated.
---Thomas on 3/14/06


The question is poorly worded. I have failed to express what I meant.(Happens all the time). It is God that has given us his word. Thereby God puts himself under obligation, the word cannot be changed and it's absolutely true. My question should have asked does God let mere man remind him of his word? The answer of course is yes. God delights in hearing his word quoted back to him. In fact he is standing by to perform his word! Praise his holy name!
---mima on 3/14/06


mi ma I am sorry if this is comes out wrong.
my answer is with a question,and a statment.Can the finite mind of man comprehend the infinite mind of GOD?
if we think we we can force or manipulate the creator to jump through hoops for us, we need to call GOD a lair.
Remember GOD is no respecter of persons and all have sinned and all have fallen short to the Glory of GOD. The one thing promised is salvation..Jesus said "it is finished"..GOD does not have to bless us in any other way.
---willow on 3/14/06


Tommy. Are you sure that God reacts to nothing? All through the Bible I see He reacted to the prayers and faith of people.
---john on 3/14/06


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Are you asking, can a man make God feel obligated to carry out his word? How outrageous!
God does not lie. Titus 1:2
Scripture cannot be broken. John 10:35
God remembers his promises Psalms 105:42
The Holy Spirit makes intercession for the saints. Romans 8:26,27
God is all knowing and wise. John 19:28 Roman 8:27
God does not need us to tell him what to do. We should pray, ask, and thank God. We can pray the scriptures, or what ever in on our hearts.
---Ulrika on 3/13/06


Did God perform for Elijah when he filled a ditch with water and asked God to burn it? Did God perform for Daniel in the lions den? Or the 3 guys in the furnace? Or for Moses? If God tells us to ask Him for things and He has no intention of performing it that would be kind of deceitful.
---john on 3/13/06


"If" man, or any other creature could obligate God to do anything, then He would not be God. The God of the Bible is totally self-existant, under debt to no one and reacts to nothing. Everything happens by His decree, period.
---tommy3007 on 3/13/06


I believe that God performs His word not because be obligate Him to do so but because He is faithful. He who has begun a good work in us is faithful to complete it. Love never obligates. I would rather rest in His faithfulness than obligate Him.
---Paulie on 3/13/06


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