Correct Pastor During The Sermon
If a preacher says something, from the pulpit, that is quite wrong, (totally against scripture) would it be correct to stand up and challenge that or should it be done privately after the service?
Moderator - After the service, otherwise it could cause problems.
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Once I heard a wandering charismatic preacher who pretended to be a prophet named Ralph Short.
He claimed that Jesus did no miracles after the Resurrection because He didn't have a physical body and the Holy Spirit needs a physical body to manifest through.
The Christians on here will see the many things wrong with this.
I confronted him privately after the service. He simply said, "I didn't know that. I'll have to look that up."
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/24/14|
There are indeed abusive churches out there.
---love.jesus on 7/24/14|
This past Sunday, my pastor fronted me out in front of the whole congregation. What made it so bad is he kept on staring and pointing at me. I started to walk out of church but I sat there in disbelief. Here I am, been very sick with a bronchial virus, hadn't been to church in a while, knowing some people who don't like me went to the pastor talking bad about me, and this is the way I get treated! Treating me this way IS NOT GODLY! AND I'VE ASKED THE LORD GOD TO REPAY THEM ALL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO ME!GOD SAID, HE WOULD REPAY AND NOW THE BALL IS IN GOD'S COURT!
---CG on 7/24/14|
A Pastor has the higest place of authority in a church. To interrupt is the worse kind of usurping Authority and out of order. No matter how wrong you think Pastor is you could be the one who is wrong. It is out of order to stop a Pastor directing a church service. God put the Pastor in that position and it's not for you to take him out. Keep order in the church,go to a Deacon and talk to that person and explain what you "think" is wrong or false,let the Deacon confront the Pastor about an untrue message,that is a Deacon's job. I feel sure if Pastor is teaching false messages from the Pulpit there will be others going to the Deacons to complain. Tell the Deacon,then hold your peace,pray, and let the Lord fight the battle.
---Darlene_1 on 8/15/09|
Leslie-The LAST person I would listen to is one who disrupts a church service! If they wanted to talk after the service, sure, I'd listen.
---Donna66 on 8/6/09|
For the ones that would not interrup the Pastor at the very moment he/she was preaching false doctrine - What if the congration took the message as truth, and one died in a car accendent after service, and went to Hell because of this false teaching. We as Christians must care enough about people's eternal souls, and be bold enough to speak the truth in love at any cost - even if it means that we seem disrespectful or disruptive. Jesus did the same thing with the Pharasis. In this sense, we must be like Jesus and be a rebel against ALL FALSE Doctrine. Be bold enough to speak the truth at the very moment, don't wait - it may be too late for someone who listens.
---Leslie on 8/6/09|
Write a book.
Mail a letter.
Set up a visitation with the pastor.
Nail up 95 thesis!
But right or wrong, do not forwardly, improperly, unorderly push yourself and your doctrine.
If you accurately knew all wisdom and all doctrines correctly, but do not use love as the vehicle to display that accurate knowledge, it profits nothing. And LOVE does not push itself forward even when others are incorrect and you think you are correct. Love is orderly!
As for disorderly know-it-alls who may think they are doing God's will through disruption.
"We ALL accurately know in part... ALL accurately preach(prophecy) in part."
---Legends on 8/6/09|
I would approach the minister after the service, and show him in the bible where he was incorrect, and if he truly was, i would hope that in the next service he would apologize to the entire congregation and correct himself in front of everyone. If you then found out that what he preached actually was correct, you would have saved yourself the embarrassment in front of everyone, and also saved yourself from having people follow you out of the service thinking the wrong thing about the minister.
---nicole on 8/5/09|
That reminds me of a similar incident that happened in a church I attended at one time.
During the service a man stood to rebuke the pastor for "false doctrine". The look on faces all over the congregation was one of shock and confusion.
Two big guys, members of the congregation quickly, but quietly, escorted the man out of the church.
Then the pastor took the opportunity to explain what the man was talking about and, using scripture, explained how our "visitor" was in error.
---Donna66 on 8/5/09|
Leslie-- may I add a p.s. to my post?
The people in the congregation where the sermon was interrupted by a man rebuking the pastor, were scared! The were not a bit scared of hell. They were scared of what else this strange and very intense interloper might do! When the fellow was escorted out, there was an audible collective sigh of relief.
---Donna66 on 8/5/09|
Something simalar happened here where I live. A pastor was preaching (something against the Bible), and a man stood up during service and said "What you are teaching is against the Bible, and is false doctrine". He then walked out, and several others followed him. Is it better for someone to not say a word, and all the congration goes to Hell because of the false teaching - or would you say something, and have others not end up in Hell, because they listened to TRUTH rather than lies? Are you bold enough to see that others do not end up in Hell for false teaching?
---Leslie on 8/5/09|
The Bible's Clear Instructions:
1st Love God - 2nd Love our neighbor as ourselves. So In Love & With Love-
Matt. 18:15-17 15If your brother wrongs you, go and show him his fault, between you and him privately. If he listens to you, you have won back your brother. 16But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two others, so that every word may be confirmed and upheld by the testimony of two or three witnesses. 17If he pays no attention to them, tell it to the church, and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a pagan and a tax collector.
Correction should not be used to find fault, but for betterment.
Eph.4:29 only speak words that edify
Rom.14:19 Pursue peace
---Paige on 8/4/09|
Contained in this statement by---jemima is the new" word of knowledge" that I have
about second Timothy 3:5," Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away."
"my pastor was anointed by a Bishop .My pastor does not have any qualificationsto preach God's word. he reads and logically translates . There is no spiritual content in his messages."
---mima on 4/22/09|
Even tho you may not agree, a pastor is in authority, placed there by God, and should NOT be outwardly rebuked, especially during a sermon. How does this appear to perhaps an unbeliever in the congregation?
---David on 4/21/09|
my pastor was anointed by a Bishop .My pastor does not have any qualificationsto preach God's word. he reads and logically translates . There is no spiritual content in his messages. His wife is a liar and annoying person. She leads the praise and worship. I am exaspearated by her conduct. I want to stand upi in Church and correct her and give her a warning. is it ok?
---jemima on 4/21/09|
No. "Correcting" him in front of others would be disrespectful and unnecessarily hurtful.
Approach him humbly (as scripture directs) and arrange an appointment to discuss the matter with him. (personally, I agree with your interpretation of Paul's conflict... but I have no ill-will to one who disagrees)
Organize and present the scriptures you believe support your view. But listen fairly and thoughtfully to his interpretation of scripture and reasoning.
Afterward you can determine how significant a disagreement there is and what, if anything, if you should do.
---Donna66 on 2/11/09|
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Bob, I could'nt agree more, most pastors are lazy and don't study, like we were told to do (2Tim.2:15) Paul is talking about himself in the present tense.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Paul says " O wretched man that I am!" not the man I was. In the next chapter paul tells us very process that he is going through (every pastor I have ever talked to hates it when you bring this up)
All true believers must conform to the image of Christ, The Father has already set these events in motion for HIS children. Rom.8:28,29,30
This is Love
---joe on 2/10/09|
I didn't like the wording of that last blog I wrote. The first part. Sorry Jesus.
---catherine on 2/10/09|
ashley>>>Very, very, very, good. And God's preachers need to remember we are not God who can not stand a little correction. Right of wrong. Let the people speak>>>If, ofcourse they are from God. The others don't count, because they don't know what's up and what's down. Hell is down and heaven is up.
---catherine on 2/10/09|
This is why you must stay in prayer and pray while you are sitting in church. Ask God.
---catherine on 2/10/09|
Mima, I also talked to a pastor about Paul's conflict of two natures in Romans 7. He said Paul was talking about himself before he was saved. Some say its a metaphor. Very seldom have I ever heard this chapter taught in church. I believe there are pastors out there which don't want us to know just how much Paul struggled with sin. It would make it easier for us to understand why we struggle so much. After many years in the ministry, Paul still had issues just as we do. I corrected one pastor who made the statement "I'm not here to condemn you, God will do that. He said he didn't remember saying that, but his wife said, yes you did.
---Bob on 2/10/09|
Many years ago, I attended a pentacostal church in the south. After arriving, I listened to the pastor say his son wanted a wife to marry. He then invited all the single women to stand and walk to the pulpit. After they arrived, he asked them to strip naked, to be examined by his son in front of the whole congregation and they did. What happened next I don't know, because it was obvious I had entered a cult of satan, not a church professing they were of God and I left, never to return. The moral of this story is if a pastor or minister teaches anything that contradicts the bible that prompts you to question it, follow the promptings of the Holy Ghost. He is not of God and you are in the presence of evil, disguised as a church of God.
---ashley on 2/10/09|
With all due respect if you feel something has not been said correctly during a sermon. If you have a good relationship with the pastor, you may ask if you could speak to him at home and go visit him.
If you have anything that you want to say you do so with all politeness, respect and remember that he has a great deal of responsibility on his shouldres and you still have to worship in the same place.
---Carla3939 on 2/9/09|
Holly, great answer. I believe your way is the best and better for you as an individual. If you confronted the Preacher in front of everyone to correct him, you would bring all attention to you. If he somehow got angry with you, it would really hurt your spiritual state. It would effect you for a long time and that incident would be sort of controlling your life for a long time. People would later be calling you and thanking you and others would be condemning you for doing what you did in front of everyone. What happens when a church goes lukewarm, those who are really saved do not grow in God's Word. Each believer has his own relationship with Christ, but all you can control is your own. The others have to make their own decisions.
---MarkV. on 2/9/09|
The Word of God should be use to ensure sound doctrine is taught from the pulpit. Acts 17: 17 So he was reasoning in the synagogue with the Jews and the God fearing Gentiles..... Christians are to stand up for the Truth everyday and everywhere we go, If your Pastor says something which is not sound doctrine YOU have the responsibility to correct him. Simply read about Jeremiah's Life in scripture. Always saying what God said and it did cost him, It will cost you! Stand for the Truth always.
---Max on 2/8/09|
Anne/Mima:-Yes! yes!! yes!!! it was a good comment similar to the Same Truths made untruths by interpretation of Jesus words In Jn6:41-65.Remember those who are NOT with me are against ME"Those who have ears to hear let em hear.
---Mic on 11/30/08|
Mima~ Yes Holly4jc's did have a great comment.
---Anne on 11/30/08|
No wonder the churches are filled with devils today. No one seems to care how God feels about anything. Lets just do as we please. Now, to answer your question: In the first place, you should be a true man or WOMAN of God before you correct anyone. And in the second place, are you reasonably sure that the preacher is called by God and belongs to God? And in the third place, always allow God to lead you as to what to do at all times. And in the fourth place, no true preacher is going to go against the word of God. A warning: Sometimes if a person has the gift of prophecy you may find that what she says has not been recorded in the word of God. Do not stone her. She belongs to God, all-knowing God.
---catherine on 11/30/08|
Many times in the answers I'm so proud of the stance the writer takes.
--Holly4jc's answer to this question is just such a statement.
---mima on 11/30/08|
Frances~ I enjoyed your comment especially on 6/17. Yes, many priests/pastors of all different denominations (obviously not just catholic) are brainwashed like you said. When I was a kid, I used to approach my minister and ask,'why do you not preach anything about certain subjects in the Bible, and why don't you preach about these scriptures ever? etc. He said 'people don't want to hear those parts of the Bible.' It is more important often for ministers to maintain their 'popularity' than speak the full truth.
It's probably a waste of time like you said to speak of these issues to ministers. But are they the victim?? Jesus referred to these types as a brood of vipers... Blind leaders leading the blind...wolves in sheep's clothing etc.
---Anne on 11/29/08|
what ever happened to congregational governance? Why so many secrets? The body of Christ consists of more than just a preacher and a deacon body. If you hear the pastor tell a lie and just sit there. You are in agreement with it. Execution should be carried out speedily. The lie was told publicly then the correction should be also done in the same manner? Dont just sit there when you were commanded to stand. Iron sharpens iron by way of friction. It will be uncomfortable. God is preparing a people willing to stand. Are you one? I pray that you are in the name of Jesus. Stand firm then.
---richard_buckman on 11/29/08|
When my children were naughty in public I used to take them home to be disciplined. When they persisted in behaving this way I began punishing them in the place where they misbehaved. It worked.
I think the same could apply to a preacher who preaches something that is biblicly wrong. See him about it first and listen to his explanation but if he persists he should not be too shocked (nor should anyone else) if he is challenged publicly.
Although it is sad to do these things, they are sometimes necessary.
---RitaH on 6/20/08|
If someone did have the courage to stand up and do this, I would be filled with admiration for them. Sometimes we should take a stand. It is really up to the men, women cannot do this kind of thing without appearing nuts, but a man can do it and be admired. That is just the (unfair) way it is.
---frances008 on 6/19/08|
What Would Jesus Do? (WWJD) Well, He did call them a brood of vipers. He did run them out of the Temple. Hmmmm, Interesting.
---james on 6/19/08|
If I find myself in a church where there are "untruths" being preached from the pulpit, especially week after week, I will walk out and not come back. I was at a Catholic Church for a funeral and I walked out. The Holy Spirit in me would not let me sit there with the statue of Mary with a golden crown on her head staring at me. And when they called for all to stand and pay honor to the eucharist (which they believe is the actual body and blood of Christ) I was the only one that did not stand. Don't get me wrong, I am all for taking communion, I have many, many times, but I will not stand and honor or be in agreement with a false doctrine. Actually, I was not even allowed to take communion there, the priest said you can only come up and take it if you were a "practicing" Catholic. Boy...that was an eyeopener!
---Holly4jc on 6/18/08|
"that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I AM chief. " First Timothy 1:15
I once heard this scripture misquoted and the pastor was reading correctly from a Bible. This was an Assembly of God Church(no security of salvation here), and this pastor was forced to say what he said (or recognize that Paul was calling himself a sinner at that time). And that was-"that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I WAS chief.
Paul was 14 years after salvation at this time. And it's obvious he's calling himself a sinner, he says of whom I AM chief. This was one of the most blatant misrepresentations of Scripture I ever heard. The pastor is still there at the church, big rich church, and he's actually been on TBN.
---Mima on 6/18/08|
I agree. If he persist you may let your views be known by getting up and walking out. Do not be shy.
---catherine on 6/18/08|
The Catholic priests teach a lot that is outside of Scripture. I did not bother saying anything to them (him) because he is totally brainwashed, though a very intelligent man. He is a victim, not a perpatrator. Telling him would be a complete waste of time, either in the service (embarrassing for everyone) or outside or in private.
---frances008 on 6/17/08|
It's rude. More than rude, you could be completely wrong. The preacher would be within his rights to put order back in the church, and put you outside.
---Elder on 6/17/08|
If you stood up to confront the Pastor you would be out of order. That actually is what a Church Board is for,to confront any Pastor who teaches/preaches against the Bible,you go to the Board and let them do their job. If it happens often and he doesn't listen to the Board He should be given his walking papers.
---Darlene_1 on 6/16/08|
I think it would depend upon what the content was. If it were something demonic then I would stand up for God. If it was an issue which is minor,it would be very wrong and disrespectful to a man who holds a pastorial position to disrupt his service and embarress him. Also, you also must remember that it could be you that is wrong. Most things are better dealt with privately.
---jody_martin on 9/19/07|
If you work where you have policies and proceedures you will know that there is a professional code of conduct in which to deal with inapropriate situations (in PRIVATE/CONFIDENTUALLY) the Bible said REBUKE not an ELDER. Ask yourself if you made a mistake would you yourself want to be pulled up, confronted, or otherwise shown up infront of your students, work mate, collegues, or church brethren or would it be better tackled in PRIVATE/CONFIDENTUALLY. Have you ever made a mistake?
---Carla5754 on 9/19/07|
1TIM 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
2TIM 4:2 Preach the word, be instant in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
TIT 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
TIT 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
---Vernon on 9/19/07|
I think that their could be occasions when it would be correct to confront publicly, but this would be rare. If we always kept things for private conversations others might continue to be deceived. However, I think it would have to be a very brave person that did it and that person would have to know his/her bible inside out or risk looking very foolish.
---RitaH on 9/19/07|
Well, you know God. He might have you stand up right there and correct Him. Too many cowards in this world. I would believe that instant confronting would be an excellent way of getting rid of false, unsaved, preachers. But make sure it is God.
---catherine on 9/18/07|
There are alot of things in the Bible that there is room for interpitation and debate. if its one of thoes things sit your self down, its prideful to make yourself the center of attention and confront the "man of God". if he has gone off his rocker and says hes dog is the messiah i would just get up and walk out. i wouldnt be going back anyway.
---nekraushaar on 9/18/07|
...Jesus rebuked false teachers, Paul rebuked false teachers....Yes it should be done publickly ..He is teaching false doctrine publuckily so the rebuke should be done as well.
---Eddie on 3/29/07
Jesus did rebuke the Pharisees but NOT while they were teaching. Jesus was teaching and they challenged Jesus by asking questions, trying to trip him up, or saying he was of the devil, etc., THEN, he rebuked them.
---Gena on 9/18/07|
I understand why you were upset, but he could have meant just the opposite of what he said. I was once in a church and the pastor told everyone to bow their eyes and close their heads. That is not what he meant at all! LOL. He got things crossed up when he spoke. He meant bow their heads and close their eyes.
Your pastor might have meant to say it right and it came out backwards. It might have been innocent.
---Gena on 9/18/07|
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Certainly not during the service because that would be totally disrespectful. In a number of cases I have found that a pastor says one thing but somebody hears something else. I have had people say I said one thing but it was what they heard and was taken out of context and not what I said. Thankfully the sermon was recorded. If I'm wrong I will stand corrected.
---denna7667 on 9/18/07|
Emg: I hope you never do something like this in church-- period! If you must and I wish you did not have to, please do it in private. We are never to do this to anyone. This does not bring unity to the church. We are to always do things decently and in order. This would be very disorderly and out of line.We are to love and respect everyone in the church.Read Heb 12:14,I Peter chapter 2 talks about sunmission to authority.Romans chapter 13 is the crown jewel. It teaches on Christian behavior.
---Robyn on 9/18/07|
"I once stated that Moses built the ark."
Well, depending on your context you could be correct--there was an Ark in the Holy of Holies. ,
---djconklin on 9/18/07|
I once stated that Moses built the ark. Of coarse I know it was Noah but that's not what I said. In those kind of cases I appreciate someone raisng their hand and point out the mistake. If it's a doctrinal issue I would rather have that discussed in private. Most of those take up way too much time to handle in public.
---john on 9/18/07|
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Though possible, I would not be hasty to think that he was under any demonic influence, because this also occurs when people speak too quickly or do not think before they speak. But I would personally bring it to his attention because it is a major error. If he is not doing so already, he should be praying before he preaches any messages.
---Eloy on 3/29/07|
Ephesians chapter 6, When he distorted and twisted the verses, my heart pounded so hard, as he said something like this: For we wrestle against flesh and blood and not against principalities, not against powers, not against rulers of darkness, ....etc.... wherefore do not take unto you the whole armour of God that ye may not be able to withstand in the evil day ....HOW SICK WAS THIS? Do you know, every one just sat there like they were sleeping, not even realizing that he was preaching blasphemy.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/29/07|
It really depends on what wrong thing the preacher is saying. If he blatantly blasphemes, this may call for you or else the entire congregation to stand up and stop him and immediately remove him from the pulpit. Or it could also be that he is right in what he says, and that you are just innocently misunderstanding him in thinking that he is wrong when in fact he is right. Many have misunderstood and misjudged me, and later some do come to learn that I am right.
---Eloy on 3/29/07|
First of all he probably is not a pastor (that term is for the elders in the church which is plural see 1 Tim 3:1-5; Titus1:5). And read the Bible...Jesus rebuked false teachers, Paul rebuked false teachers....Yes it should be done publickly ..He is teaching false doctrine publuckily so the rebuke should be done as well.
---Eddie on 3/29/07|
Privately. Make sure that He is wrong. So often God's preachers preaches different styles. And that is scripture. We can live differently. And that is scripture. And aways pray about it first. When I was in church, I was always going to God about something the preacher said. One reason He took me out.
---catherine on 3/28/07|
What would Jesus do? God is love, so would He embarass him in front of others? Pastors are not perfect. I think if you approached him it would help him. Maybe you should say, "Pastor I know what you said, but the Bible says this about that and I wanted to know if I am misunderstanding what the Word is saying." I know if he is a man of God he will receive it. If not, and you are correct in what you said then maybe along with praying for him, ask the Lord to lead you elsewhere.
---Yolanda on 3/28/07|
Do I ever understand what you are saying. My little girl is super smart with math, in an instant she can come up with an answer while the teacher is still counting, and can correct people instantly. As for me, my major in college, was Ministerial studies....It was not popular for woman to be a Pastor like it is not now, however, I did it in obedience to my father...He wanted me in the Ministry to follow in his footsteps. Now when I listen to these men giving themselves fancy titles, part 1
---Cynthia_1 on 3/28/07|
part 2. putting all kinds of initials after their names, then getting up on the platform saying all kinds of things that go AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD....I can not tell you how hard it is for me to sit down, I want to run up there so quick and throw them off the pulpit. I have had Phds. ask me for advice and how and what to say, I remain in humility, after all I am a mother, wife, maid, etcetera.... But I GET A HOLY RAGE. It is better that you discuss these things after the service to them.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/28/07|
Unfortunately, there are many pastors preaching things that violate scripture. In some main line denominations they teach that was not born of a "virgin" in the context we usually understand. Many also teach of a spiritual rather than an actual resurrection. And others teach that Jesus work on the Cross was not enough... we must earn our salvation.
---daphn8897 on 3/28/07|
I think this is a difficult one. It all depends on what the preacher says. If it could lead people astray, I would probably also get up and say something, but in a polite way, such as. Preacher don't you mean....
---Junia on 3/28/07|
I agree with the moderator. It is always best to discuss the matter with the pastor privately. If it is still apparent that the pastor truly is wrong, seek out some other witnesses and approach him again, privately. If he refuses to adjust, all you can do is pray for him or her.
If your denomination has an earthly heirarchy, you can go above your pastor's head, but only after dealing with it privately first. If this fails, then you will need to consider finding another church.
---lorra8574 on 3/28/07|
If the man himself said that he would like any challenge to be public then I can see no problem. He must have been pretty certain that either it would never happen or that he could cope if it did. Only someone truly immersed in the bible would actually make such an offer to his congregation. There would certainly be no arguments afterwards that certain things had been said when they hadn't, if it was done so openly.
---m.p.a. on 3/28/07|
always privately because you could have missunderstand pastor's words and others could tell you that they had another thinking and receiving of pastor's teaching and you could be wrong and you would ashame the pastor before all audience.
---Kasia on 3/28/07|
No, no. That would make everyone uncomfortable. That would not be proper.
---R.A. on 3/27/07|
I support the moderator. Challenging the pastor mid-way thru his sermon will distract the whole church. However, if the error is too significant, meet him in private (with a number of elders) and request that he pulicly correct that error to prevent people running off with it.
---esan on 3/27/07|
The pastor to whom I refer had never been to college. His father had run the church before him. Neither were ever paid for doing so and both virtually self-taught from studying God's word. I believe they were both biblically sound and that is why no-one ever needed to take up the challenge. I think he was a brave man to make the offer though and they were certainly not half-baked.
---emg on 3/23/06|
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I am wondering why a pastor standing at the pulpit could say something that is "totally against scripture". I understand that before any man can be ordained a "pastor" he must have gone through four years or more of preparation (obtain a college degree in theology)in a seminary. Are we having pastors that are "half-baked" or"haphazardly done"?
---Linda6546 on 3/19/06|
Once you see how long some of the doctrinal debates go on here, I dread to think what it would be like if raised a disagreement during a sermon!
---alan_of_uK on 3/17/06|
If you disagree with your pastor, talk to him privately about it. DO NOT talk to him in front of anyone.
---shira on 3/17/06|
Many years ago I attended a church where the pastor actually asked the congregation to tell him publicly if he ever said anything that they disagreed with. He said that he would rather it were sorted publicly there and then rather than have people talk about it later behind his back. I believe he was a man of his word and would have handled it if necessary but no-one ever seemed to need to challenge him.
---emg on 3/17/06|
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