Christians Who Judge Others
I am deeply troubled. How could a born again, spirit filled man who supposedly loves the Lord God Almighty, rip into, tear apart, condemn and judge a sister in the Lord who made a mistake--getting angry. Why do we judge others so harshly and don't judge ourselves, nor apologize?
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---Donna on 3/17/06
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Please remember that 1Timothy 5:19-22 requires at least two reputable witnesses. If the charge is justifiable, Romans 16:17-18 and 1Corinthians 5:6-8, 11-13 apply.
*1 Matthew 7:1-5 / Luke 6:41-42, Romans 16:17-18, 1Corinthians 2:15, 5:1-13 (3), 6:4, 11:31, James 4:11-12.
*2 Acts 20:27-30, 1Timothy 3:1-15, Titus 1:5-16, James 3:1-18, 1Peter 5:1-3.
*3 Romans 6, 1Corinthians 6:20, Galatians 5:16-6:5, Ephesians 4:17-32, 5:3-18, Colossians 3:5-10, 22-23.
---Glenn on 1/12/12|
Oh, and MarkV, also the prayers of many here are effective, whether or not we "see" the results...keep praising Him who is able, our Almighty God
---chria9396 on 1/11/12|
Thanks Mark. Many times your posts have been of help. Sometimes Ive had to consider something for a time, pray, and come to an understandingjust last week I came across an old post of yours and clearly saw what I was unable to see at the time. Thank you, and know that even if I, or others do not comment, many read, and take in the Word that is given here by many, and that Word does not return (to God) void.
---chria9396 on 1/11/12|
*1, Rules for judging.
*2, The disciplining of a presumed Bishop is not a punishment, but recognizes that man is not qualified. This could be due to immaturity, ignorance, sin, apostasy, or not meeting various Biblical standards.
*3 If the charge is justifiable.
---Glenn on 1/8/12|
Dear Donna. Men are sinners. Sometimes we let our natural man, "old man", override/over rule our "new man". I am very sorry for your distress. I recommend that you go and appologize to the man that offended you. If you need to take a witness. (Matthew 18:15-20).
Lord bless you dear Sister in Christ.
---trey on 12/31/11|
Chria, first, all your answers are sound, and don't contradict Scripture. When I explain something, take it if it helps you understand something new. If not, it is probably because you understand the topic a little different. Concerning the love of God, you are right. They use the love of God to minimize sin and hell. I see it this way, God's love is for His children only. And if He punishes others, it is because of the love He has for those who believe. In the Old Testament, you saw what happend to the Canaanites, Amorites, and others. It was for the protection of His people, since the Seed of David was going to come through that line. All actions have a purpose
What confuses people is their believe in "free will."
---Mark_V. on 12/30/11|
Mark_V. on 12/28/11, it is my hope that we understand one another without compromising the truth
in reading what you said to More Excellent
I see you use judging and discerning interchangeably, while I usually restrict the use of the word judging to that which belongs to God alone, or a negative heart attitude towards others. There is of course discernment, and righteous judgment
Also, Ive been thinking of what you said on 12/23 "People take the love of God too far." Correct me if Im wrong, I am assuming you meant those who tolerate or excuse sin, using the love of God as reason
Thank you Mark
---chria9396 on 12/28/11|
Samuel, as to the passage in 2 Tim 2: you are right. "In humility correcting those who are in oppossition, (and here is the kicker) "if God perhaps will grant them repentance," so that they may know the truth" no guarantee God will grant them repentance. And if He doesn't he mentions:
"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers." in order to know who they are we need to judge what they teach and their very works, (v.5:9) "but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.".
---Mark_V. on 12/27/11|
Chria, thank you so much for your answers. I enjoy answering others. Your opinions and feelings are rightly taken. We should use righteous judgment always. Peace I leave you sister.
---Mark_V. on 12/28/11|
Jesus never said that all sins are equal. That is something that humans made up to excuse their sin. They spread their "don't judge me" and "you've sinned too so you have no room to say anything" crap-Jed
But Jesus did say "He who is without sin cast the first stone". So that "crap" about not judging people because we ourselves are just as guilty....that came from God. Scripture also says the man who shows no mercy shall receive none and if we do not forgive we will not be forgiven. God also despises hypocrites.
If your heart is set on judging people harshly, you will find yourself judged harshly in the final day.
---JackB on 12/27/11|
Amen, Mark Eaton. Amen
---Jackb on 12/27/11|
I've seen a lot of this in statements about our president. I disagree with him on a host of issues most notably abortion, but when a man claims Christ is his savior, who am I to say he isn't?
---larry on 12/25/11|
So many here using judging harsh words when they rebuke and condemn others.
But what does scriputre teach about correcting.
2Ti 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive, but be gentle unto all [men], apt to teach, patient,
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves, if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth,
---Samuel on 12/25/11|
MarkV,I understand God put enmity between the children, and we ourselves were once enemies Col 1:21.and not too lovable. When I think of what Hes delivered me from, how can I think myself better?not in light of His love, mercy and grace. Yes we are different, praise God, and that is to HIS glory, not ours. It is His work IN us. Its the heart attitude I speak of. I agree we cannot do many of the things God asks, thats just part of His plan, we must trust Him to empower us to do as He asks. Doesnt the Word say we are to love our enemies? I know quite well that I cannot do that in my flesh, but I can in all honesty say that God has empowered me to love someone whos done some pretty horrific things to my daughter. I am not advocating tolerating sin
---chria9396 on 12/23/11|
This is not an issue of the validity of a person's salvation, this is an issue of their being conformed to the image of Christ.
The more time I stay in prayer and meditation with God and upon God's Word, wanting to be transformed from what I was into what God wants of me, the less I act out in anger and judgment towards others.
It is pride and selfishness. It is hypocracy to judge another. We see why easily. But to silence our own tongue requires being fully surrendered to the image of Christ. Living out our salvation and the transforming power He has put into me.
Also, when I am confirmed to Christ, I can endure all the slings and arrows of my enemies.
Keep your eyes on Christ, He is our pattern.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/24/11|
The man is not really a Christian.
---Tammy on 12/24/11|
For the true worshipper, only GOD shall provide spiritual knowledge, NOT MAN....therefore, whenever hearing someone speak/write about any spiritual matters (REGARDLESS of whether it's scripturally verifiable), DO NOT believe/care what they are claiming to be true.
The Bereans wanted to hear MAN'S VOICE, not GOD'S VOICE only.
"MY SHEEP hear MY voice".
SO WHAT! the Bereans verified what Paul was saying (the devil himself can speak what is in scripture), PAUL DID NOT hang on the cross!!!. DO NOT be like a Berean!.
The hypocritical "Brood of Vipers" were CHILDREN OF HELL and taught others to be TWICE a chid of hell.
"twice as much a child of hell as yourselves" (Matthew 23:15).
---more_excellent_way on 12/24/11|
I think More Excellent was spot on. Jesus didnt come here to judge and He was God in the flesh. What gives US the right to do so if our God didnt? Judgement day has not come yet. There will be a time for that and that is the Lords job.
Our job as the hands and feet of Christ is to love people the way HE did. He loved them the same regardless of their sin. If we follow his example then we bring honor and glory to HIS name and lead the lost to Christ.
The church has enough snobs and hypocrites that twist the word of God to tickle their own ears. God is no respecter of persons nor is He partial in his judgements.
---JackB on 12/24/11|
Most Excellent, all you said sounds wonderful, but you went too far to the left. While the Holy Spirit is purifying us, His also guiding us to all truth, directing our steps, incouraging us to sacrifice ourselves for others. If we are not to completely judge others, we would not be able to know what is truth. If a speaker is talking and giving a speech, we need to judge if it comes from God's Word, that discernment come from the Holy Spirit. Judging is not that important, what's important is the intent from the heart as to why we judged. My intent was to show that God put emnity between the children. It is very important to know that, for it is part of the gospel. If we don't judge the difference we will never know they are children of wrath.
---Mark_V. on 12/23/11|
Chria, I did not put that enmity between the children. God did. We are different then they are. We have different fathers. Yes, we want them to become children of God, no question about that. Why? so they too can become children of God. We are not to see ourselves better then others, that is so true. I am not any better then others, but I don't kill, murder, rape children, are beat up on woman. There is many things God tells us to do that we cannot. People take the love of God too far. If we were equal we would not have hell. And if you are honest, how can you love someone who rapes your daughter and kills her? Oh, there might be very few who can, but God already knows why we cannot love them. Thanks for answering, Peace
---Mark_V. on 12/23/11|
For centuries, satan has successfuly convinced all believers that they are wicked, disgusting scoundrels and that no goodness can come from them without being COMMANDED/ordered to do so.
When/if a believer's conscience becomes TRULY purified by the Holy Spirit, they will no longer have the desire to judge other people (we only feel a need to judge other people in order to redeem/purify our conscience,....but the only true redemption of our conscience is from the Spirit, Hebrews 9:14).
We 'think of' other people the same as we "think of"/treat ourselves (POETIC JUSTICE/what goes around comes around). Let God's spirit teach us that mistakes are MISTAKES (if we don't penalize OTHER PEOPLE, we'll receive POETIC JUSTICE).
---more_excellent_way on 12/22/11|
It is not AVOIDING HARSH JUDGEMENT that will produce a 'holy attitude' (or is your goal to simply conform to rules/text?), it is ridding yourself of the DESIRE TO JUDGE at all.
Scripture contains many things (stumbling blocks for the insincere/wicked,....and also HOLINESS understanding...choose as per your heart,...'legalist harshness' or peaceful holiness).
The genuine holy person is not formed by text or earthly knowledge, but formed by having a spirit similar to God's own spirit.
We are to HAVE THE AMBITION/desire (for those who are so inclined) to LIVE QUIETLY not bothering others, and to NOT mind the affairs of other people.
1 Thessalonians 4:11 "to aspire to live quietly, to mind your own affairs".
---more_excellent_way on 12/22/11|
MarkV, yes there are differences however, before God, I must answer for my heart towards another. I fully believe that I am to love others. We are to love our enemies, even as Christ loved us, while we were yet sinners. we are to love our brothers and sisters in Christ as well. Not to consider ourselves better than another. I do not know who will be saved, any more than you do, so how do the differences you mentioned apply? It is my hope that many lost will be saved, and considering them less because they are currently children of disobedience does not show Christ in me, the Hope of glory, the One who so loved us to give His life, a ransom for many. I pray they too will know Him as savior and Lord, King of Kings
---chria9396 on 12/22/11|
People judge others harshly because they see something of their own behavior reflected back at them but they won't admit it and lash out at others instead. When Christians start to take the Bible at what it says,Judge not that you be not judged for as you judge you will be judged,instead of believing they have a right to judge others they will stop that evil. I had a friend years ago who wasn't commited to God but kept telling me she was someday going to heaven,all I said to her was you will have to have your life lined up with the Bible and you will. At the time she was sleeping with one man and married to a wife beater. She did give her life to God and is now a Ministers wife working for God. The Word judges us itself,we need no man to do it.
---Darlene_1 on 12/22/11|
Jesus never said that all sins are equal. That is something that humans made up to excuse their sin. They spread their "don't judge me" and "you've sinned too so you have no room to say anything" crap so they can continue in their sin without feeling guilty. The eternal outcome of any sin without Jesus' blood is the same, hell. But each sin has it's own consequences on Earth. And God does bless you according to how you live, honor, and obey Him with what he has already given you. You can't live irresponsibly and sinfully and say you are to be equally blessed as those who honor God with what He has given them.
---Jed on 12/22/11|
Seems as though there are some here who think they are excluded from once being a child of wrath.
2Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Oh Yea, verse 3 says, BUT GOD in His great Mercy SAVED children of WRATH.
leej are you quoting BARNES NOTES again?
---kathr4453 on 12/22/11|
//We are all, in God's eyes, sinners.
1 John 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
Of course if you are an Eloy, then you no longer have any sin!
//Man wants to put men in categories of sin and compare man to man according to little sins or big sins.
(probably more accurate to say Woman wants to put men in categories of sin and compare woman to woman according to little sins (gossip) and big sins (not obeying husband).
---lee1538 on 12/22/11|
Chria, nothing wrong with disagreeing with me. But I know you are wrong. Here is why we are not equal or the same. God said in Gen. 3:15:
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and Her Seed, He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel"
The children of wrath have a different father, they do the desires of their father the devil. The children of God do the desires of their Father God. We are not seen by God the same. Even hell has different degrees of punishment for the unregenerate. So not everyone is the same and not everyone is treated the same. We are all sinners that is for sure.
---Mark_V. on 12/22/11|
MarkV, Jed, regarding Robyns post. I agree with Robyn in that 'we' are no better than the next person. ONLY Christ in us makes a difference, nothing of ourselves, but all to His glory.
But for the grace of God, there go i.
Phil 2:3 "Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind LET EACH ESTEEM OTHERS BETTER THAN HIMSELF."
Rom 3:23 "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" our righteousness is as filthy rags. God is a God of mercy, and His mercy triumphs over judgment.
---chria9396 on 12/21/11|
Robyn, I totally agree with your statement. It's funny how men judge, but not according to God's judgement.
We are all, in God's eyes, sinners. Man wants to put men in categories of sin and compare man to man according to little sins or big sins.
In God eyes sin is sin, and a murderer is just as sinful as one with pride, or one that thinks he's a better person. That's Phariseeism..
Just look at what the Pharisee said and thought.
And how many pharisees are going to HELL , who will be right next to the rapist/murderer etc.
---kathr4453 on 12/21/11|
First of all, no one knows if a person is born of the Spirit. Second, I believe Jed is correct. Not everyone is the same. If the person angry loses it, it does not mean he is not saved, or that he is. It only means he got angry. It is the fallen not redeemed human part that response angry. Christians are carnal sometimes since the flesh has not been redeemed yet. They are able to walk in the Spirit and also in the flesh. We are been change day after day if we are born of the Spirit. It is the fallen human nature that sins, Paul called it, "sin within"
---Mark_V. on 12/21/11|
Sometimes people think they are better than others because they have made changes in their lives. Not so. We just made a better choice to follow Christ but we are no better than the next person.
---Robyn on 2/13/08
What an ingorant post! You think that a rapist or murderer is an equal person as someone who has never tried to hurt anyone? You don't think a man who works hard his whole life to provide for his family is any better than a lazy welfare bumb sitting at home playing video games? We are all CREATED equal. That's where it stops. Your choices and actions define you and can make you a better or lesser person, and bad choices/actions can even limit your natural rights
---Jed on 12/21/11|
// How could a born again, spirit filled man who supposedly loves the Lord God Almighty, rip into, tear apart, condemn and judge a sister in the Lord who made a mistake--getting angry.
Probably for the most part one is judged on past behavior- not on what you have become or are becoming.
Sinful behavior does affect how we view others and past sins do have consequences long into the believers life.
---lee1538 on 12/21/11|
It depends on the offense, some offenses should be judged harshly and others should not be judged harshly. For example, Inviting people over to the house to eat without first checking with the one whom provides the food, this is an offense, but not deserving of being "ripped into". But taking all the food out of the house without permission from the one whom purchased it, leaving none remaining, and even giving it away to the hungry, this is a more serious offense, for now the household must starve until that time if possible more food can be purchased- deserving of ripping into?, Yes indeed. I would punish the person, and tell them, You Go Out and replace some of the food for this house which you have taken without permission.
---Eloy on 12/21/11|
People are human, regardless of their faith. Sounds like this person is very angry with himself
---edie on 12/21/11|
So what do you think is the best way to respond to such accusations?
---Brian on 12/20/11
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again, and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
---chria9396 on 12/21/11|
Hi Donna I am insulted by two bloggers who have taken it upon themselves to condemn me in various ways that are very hurtful. All justify themself for denouncing me on the basis of Christ's denouncement of the Pharisees Luke 5:26 and another from Paul's own example of rebuking in public and also his advise to Timothy (1 Tim 5:20) One blogger repeatedly slanders me as "a filthy son of Satan" or "a liar", or "a heretic" etc. None of these people know me personally and even when I protest that I love the Lord delight in His Word and conscientiously follow the leading of the Spirit they persist in their abuse.
So what do you think is the best way to respond to such accusations?
---Brian on 12/20/11|
Judgement comes from ignorance,arrogance and lack of vision. Among other things.Sometimes people think they are better than others because they have made changes in their lives. Not so. We just made a better choice to follow Christ but we are no better than the next person.
---Robyn on 2/13/08|
Each one born of the Spirit is made in the image of God. Man functions in the image of the Father that he believes and knows. One who sees his heavenly Father as a black-robed judge looking at the sin instead of loving the one who commits it and drawing that one to Himself will function in that image. The worst false image one can have is a false image of God.
---Linda on 2/11/08|
Spirit filled by who's definition? It sounds like he was pretty much full of self, not the Holy Spirit.
---Bruce5656 on 4/2/07|
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To anyone, Christians make mistakes too. Jesus is sure to forgive if we ask.
---Thomas on 3/20/06|
I am the Donna who posted the question. Please forgive me if I've caused confusion. I am new and didn't realize there are many Donna's on here. Thank you for all of your wonderful, comforting and caring responses. I love to forgive people, so it's cool. I'm just trying to understand Born Again, Spirit filled Christians in a deeper way. Thank you for understanding.
---Donna97 on 3/20/06|
There are many christians out there who simply called themselves spirit-filled christians but do not live up and follow JESUS. They are christians by name but not in actions.
---cel on 3/19/06|
The verse that says do not judge means that we should not rush to judgement. For example if I see something without knowing all the facts and I immediately form an opinion or make a decision. That is Judging wrongly vs if someone tells me of a sin they are committing and I cite scripture and tell them that is wrong in the Lords eyes. That is simply taking Gods Judgment on a matter and bringing it to light. I am not passing Judgement.
---Tom on 3/19/06|
Thank You Alan of UK.
Sorry, I forgot ALREADY to add numbers to my name.. I am "the other Donna" who isn't deeply troubled, except by the fact that her memory is failing. If there is a third Donna, I'm not her either, but she will have to add numbers to her name so folks will know if it's Donna, Donna2277 or the third Donna.I hope that the Donna who is just plain Donna here will get to talk to some of the really nice people who blog here. There are many! (Did I use up my 85 words yet?)
---Donna2277 on 3/19/06|
The Lord commanded us to love others as he has loved us. He also said we would be offended for His name sake.We need to keep our heart pure before the Lord, He is the only one to judge the motives of our hearts. Bacat
---BETTYANN_CATUDAL on 3/19/06|
Donna, I think Mima's answer is right on. It's sin, sinful judging and sinful pride. We all sin and fall short of the glory of God, even as christians. Thank God we "have an advocate with the Father, Christ Jesus" because we will all continue to sin until we see Him face to face. He paid a debt He did not owe - I had a debt I could not pay....
---daphn8897 on 3/19/06|
Donna ... you have sent a message from the "other Donna, and signed yourself just "Donna" Which other Donna are you ... the Donna who is not the Donna who posted the question and is therefore Donna2277, or the Donna who is not Donna2277, or yet another Donna?
Donna2277, you are forgiven.
---alan_of_uK on 3/19/06|
Donna: It is sad but true that the majority of those who call themselves Christian do not follow the example of Jesus. Many seem to have a religion of hate, and by demeaning another person or his religion, hope to elevate themselves in God's eyes. Unfortunately, the opposite effect is achieved.
---jerry6593 on 3/19/06|
Am I reading this correctly, a man got super angry because this woman showed anger? What kind of Godly example is that? If you are the person he got angry with, it needs to be addressed and BOTH give forgiveness. Otherwise, take WIVV's advice if this involves others. (I'm happy we got our Donnas straight!)
---NVBarbara on 3/19/06|
P.S. from the other Donna. I guess I was trying to say, just turn this person over to the Lord, He knows best how to deal with each of his children. Then ask Him to help you forgive (and maybe not take some things too much at heart)
---Donna on 3/19/06|
It depends on the incident that happened, whether stern judgment is appropriate or not. Jesus himself got angry and took a whip and drove the people out of church and overthrew the tables and chairs and drove them out of the church with a whip. John 2:13-16.
---Eloy on 3/19/06|
Alan of UK--This is a different Donna who is deeply troubled. (Note I'm now Donna2277) You and I did have a misunderstanding, but I know you a little better now and enjoy hearing what you have to say. I hope you accepted my apology. There are some here that I disagree with sharply (and probably always will). It takes two to argue so I'm trying to stay out of discussions that agitate me that much!
---Donna2277 on 3/19/06|
I've been blogging for some time with just my first name, "Donna", but lately I've noticed another Donna online here. So I'm going to use Donna2277 I don't know if this Donna is thinking of a blogger here..some of them can be pretty harsh. Lots of times I think they just want to show others how "smart" they are. But whoever this prideful person is, you can be sure that the Lord is not pleased. And the Lord WILL humble him in some manner, esp. if he does not apologize.
---Donna2277 on 3/19/06|
There is a vast difference between judging and examining. As Christians, we are to examine each other. However, there are "rules" to follow. 1. Make sure don't have a "Telephone Pole" in your eye while looking at a speck in someone eles's eye. 2. Speak to the person in PRIVATE 3. Take a witness with you and speak to the person. It reads to me like the "spiritual" brother lost his cool, and is trying to cover it up forcing you to look at the other person.
---WIVV on 3/18/06|
2. many times they hide behind another name so no one will know. Whatever happens, you cannot control that, but only what your response is going to be. Make your intention for the Lord and you will always be right. As Alan said, sometimes we say things that hurt and don't realize it until someone points it out. In any case, just forgive them. Blessings to you and welcome to this website.
---Lupe2618 on 3/18/06|
Donna, I do not know who this person is and I am sorry for them because many times we get passionate about God so much we want others to see what we see and when they don't we cannot understand why. People have said things to me that really hurt too and my first reaction is to tell them off. I allow God to work in my circumstance and little by little I see the picture more clearly. I know what I have control of and what I don't. I realize I have no control of the other person and what they say.
---Lupe2618 on 3/18/06|
Dont you see that on this very page?we condemn people before we know all the facts surrounding their circumstances. i know the bible says we shud rebuke where necessary but i just feel this has gone too far here. I dont know if some of us even spend a minute praying for those preachers we love to condemn.
---pkay on 3/18/06|
Working in a Ministry, I wonder this very often. People with 2-faces. As often as I wondered this, I saw myself. You continously forgive them and love them. Pray for them, continously. Stop asking why, which is tough, and ask God to reveal how you can help. You want to contribute and add to that person not throw the stone and keep asking why.
---Paul on 3/17/06|
Donna, he may be born again, but he surely isn't spirit filled. The person he hurt should go to him and confront him. God does not forgive those who don't forgive.
---shira on 3/17/06|
Personaly I judge myself harshly. I have been told though that we judge ourselves by our intentions and others by thier deeds. I also have been told that anger is hurt and vulnerability. I don't know what this is about but, I think prayer and love are always important. A mistake is a mistake, 2 people can make at the same time.
---Alexandra on 3/17/06|
It is easier to see other's faults than it is our own. Everytime we point a finger, there are three pointing back at us, which makes us no better. Some people think they are righteous in which they do know wrong, and think that everyone else is wrong in all they do. don't worry about this man, it is he who has to apologize to you and to God. Brush off you feet and go on.
---Rebecca_D on 3/17/06|
Donna, I remember you being angry with me, & it felt as if you were ripping into me, particularly as you had misunderstood what I had said.
I hope I have never ripped into people, but it it is easy for the wrong impression to be given. We have probably all felt unjustly accused, and have unjustly accused others here.
You are right to remind us of the hurt that can be caused.
---alan_of_uK on 3/17/06|
We don't all judge others so harshly. Perhaps this man is not the man you portray him to be. Why don't you ask him about it? And offer comfort to the woman. I'm sure she's as hurt as you are puzzled.
---Robert on 3/17/06|
This man judged his sister in Christ harshly for the same reason that the sister in Christ made the mistake. It's called our human condition; just plain out ordinary everyday disgusful SIN.
---mima on 3/17/06|