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Can God Forgive Repeated Sins

Would God forgive repeated sins?

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---Lori and ---duane have some good things to say about forgiveness. Most people have great trouble with forgiving themselves. The Lord has already forgiven them but they just cannot grasp the truth because of the enemies constantly whispering doubt in their ears.
---mima on 8/24/09


Alan,
My life is a changed life and new mind teaching me every minute of the day(repentance from God). A new birth made us so.
I repented of sin when I came to Christ.Dont you know flesh and blood cant totally turn from sinning? So the need to repent towards God(turn to Christ) HE came to set us free from sin.
---duane on 8/24/09


Our sins were taken care of on the cross, 2000 yrs ago before we were born (thank you Jesus!) And if we are baptized into the body of Christ (His church) by the Holy Spirit, then we know and are conscience of when we sin. It's like the Holy Spirit saying to us, "You're not really gonna do that are you?...remember who you are! You're the Righteousness of God!" Believers will sin...but they are covered by the blood, and God remembers it no more.
---Lori on 8/24/09


"Alan,You seem to say that sin is still counted against a Christian and still needs to be forgiven? Then I say, there would be no Gospel AND the Cross meaningless if this were true."
duane on 8/23/09
1 John 1:9: "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
Is Peter a Christian?
Galatians 2:11: "But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed."

Obviously duane, you have not this Gospel, neither those children with their LALALA. Are they from Lala land?
---Nana on 8/23/09


Thanks, Duane, for your explanation. A lot of people will treat you like a heretic for your view.

The "good news" of the Gospel is that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. I was bound by sin and didn't know it, incapable of any righteousness. But Jesus payed the penalty for ALL my sins...and they were ALL FUTURE sins when He did it.

The Gospel isn't "bad news" that HIS blood is sufficient ONLY for some sins...those I recognize, commit but once, and beg His forgiveness for. Any others remain uncovered by His blood, my debt for eternity. If this is so, I'm under WORSE bondage than before being "born again", since I now understand the seriousness of sin. If this is so, what is Grace?
---Donna66 on 8/24/09




Duane ... I am puzzled again ... previously you have said yuo don't sin.

Now you seem to say that you do sin, but don't think you need to repent of those sins.

Instead you say "My life is repentance" but what does that actually mean? Does it mean you wear sack-cloth and ashes all the time?
---alan8566_f_uk on 8/24/09


Alan of UK -- I don't think we're off the subject-- but no matter. I believe Lori and GAZ (dispite his funny LALALA visual) both on 8/23, are basically saying the same as Duane.
It's sometimes a hard concept to grasp.
Is being "born again" spiritually, a one time thing or do we have to be "born again"..again and again,over and over? What does our being born again mean to God?
---Donna66 on 8/23/09


Amen Lori...very true
---duane on 8/23/09


Alan,
You have it all wrong. I battle against this body of sin and death, but not to make myself righteous but to be a better witness unto my brothers in this world. My righteousness comes from the Lord. I dont repent of sin to be forgiven because I am forgiven through Christ. My life is repentance every minute Im awake. I try to be better because I love HIM.
---duane on 8/23/09


alan8566_of_uk:

My views towards OSAS are ambivalent: On the one hand, when Jesus truly saves us, we are truly free from sin. On the other hand, many who truly believe they are saved, really are not (just look at many cults) - so we can't go by personal feelings in this matter.

We are still imperfect and sin, but we trust Jesus to cleanse us from this sin. However, this doesn't mean we can just go off and do as we please (Romans 6:1-2).

1 John 6-10 illustrates this. On the one hand, believers are imperfect and sin from time to time - but on the other hand, those who "walk in darkness" aren't in fellowship with Jesus in the first place.
---StrongAxe on 8/23/09




Donna & StrongAxe ... WE are gettiong off the subject!!

My problem is really what Duane appears to beleive (and which your comments seems in some ways to support)

He apparently says that once you are saved, nothing you subsequently do is a sin ... & so does not need to be repented.

That's what I can't accept ... even my anger when I find it difficult to do what was once for me a simple Do-It-Yourself is a sin, and I need to confess.

But there are those who once they are "saved" live an unchanged life, and say their continuing selfishness & other bad behaviour does not matter.
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/23/09


alan8566_of_uk:

It's not my place to add additional commandments, such as "thou shalt not smoke" or "thou shalt not drink", etc. - I'll leave that to the Pharisees.

However, there are things (which vary from person to person) that can damage one's effectiveness. Wilful indulgence in such things could be considered sin. It's not an alcoholic's fault if he has a predisposition to drink. But if he chooses to walk past a bar every day and put himself closer into temptation (when there are alternatives), that IS his fault.
---StrongAxe on 8/23/09


No one on earth has a sin problem with God. Christ paid for ALL SIN, FOR ALL MEN, FOR ALL TIME...on the cross. The sin that we will be judged on is, Do you believe in Him that God sent? Period.
---Lori on 8/23/09


If G-d doesnt remember your sins , as far as the east is from the west , why would you keep bringing it up to him ? im sure he stands with his fingers in his ears , sayinG LALALALALALALALALA ...CMON , forget being a CHRISTIAN , Be a BELIEVER !
---GAZ on 8/23/09


As long as you live in the flesh you suffer the infirmities of the flesh. Your preoccupation with justifying sin and ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the truth reveals your immaturity in Christ.
You must be spiritual creatures not carnal. Are you born again? Then Grow up into the fullness and stature of Christ. Be transformed
by the renewing of your mind not the degeneration of your mind by doctrines for excusing your sin. Walk in the Spirit and you will not fulfill the lust of your flesh. Will you remain a baby christian until your rebellion Aborts you from the kingdom of God. When I was a Child I spoke as a Child, but it is time to put childish things away.
---exzucuh on 8/23/09


Alan,You seem to say that sin is still counted against a Christian and still needs to be forgiven? Then I say, there would be no Gospel AND the Cross meaningless if this were true. Dont you know that in HIM we HAVE forgiveness of sin? We have been made righteous. There is no judgement left.HE became sin for us. HE set us free from sin. We are dead to sin so we can be alive to God. Sin has no power over us. ..Jesus Christ came to set us free from sin.HE came to put sin away. This IS the Gospel!!!
---duane on 8/23/09


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Alan of UK,
regarding
"ordinary (sins) ones, like anger, lack of generosity, spitefulm thoughts, selfishness.
... saved people still exhibit."

I did NOT say that they don't count, that they don't need to be repented of, and forgiven.

What I said is that they are already PAID FOR.
The Holy Spirit who indwells the BELIEVER (not the unbeliever) convicts him of these sins, causes him to repent, not out of fear of hell-fire, but out of a desire to keep a close walk with the Lord.
---Donna66 on 8/22/09


StrongAxe ...

Yes there is this strange & rather sick preoccupation among Christians about sexual sin, isn't there?

As to smoking, it depends whether you regard smoking as a sin, similarly whether you regard alcoholism as a sin or an illness caused by the sin of excessive alcohol drinking.

Many get angry, and that is a sin ... and I believe we still need to repent of this.

You will realise that unlike Duane, I am not OSAS

But there's a difference between getting angry (which is involuntary) and adultery, which is deliberate
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/22/09


alan8566_of_uk:

How about a serial smoker? What if someone somkes, gets saved (and gives up smoking), but then later feels the need for a smoke? Or how about an alcoholic? Or even more common in this society, a glutton? Do these people lose their salvation over a smoke or a drink or a sandwich?

We tend to think of adultery (and worse, child molestation) as much worse sins, but to God, sin is sin, period.
---StrongAxe on 8/22/09


Duane & Donna ... I did use an extreme sin, but what about more ordinary ones, like anger, lack of generosity, spitefulm thoughts, selfishness.

These are all sins, and sins that saved people still exhibit.

But you seem to say that they don't count, that they don't need to be repented of, and forgiven.

Sorry, but the more honest of us don't see it that way.
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/22/09


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Nana-->>>if you sin against your brother you do not have to go and get reconciled with him?<<< I said nothing to that effect. If were are Christ's we WANT to do what HE has taught us. We obey because of our love and gratitude to HIM, not just so we won't be punished. If we sin, we repent for the same reason.

Alan of UK--
In a case like the one you suggest, I'd be very skeptical of his so-called "Salvation".
Many people who are serial abusers (of women, children, anyone) "claim" to be "saved" becaused they are natural manipulators of people.
If he was truly saved, he wouldn't be returning to those sins.
---Donna66 on 8/21/09


Alan,
How were you saved? Think!!...When we reconcile ourselves to God we dont do what we use to do. A child molester that comes to God in faith is no longer a child molester, he is a child of God. He lives by faith and doesnt want to molest children.
In HIM we Have forgiveness of sin always. Sin is sin no matter how grave. How can any man be saved except he be set free from sin. Flesh will always sin, so we must be born again to be saved. (forgiven forever)
---duane on 8/21/09


Oh my YES, Yes, Yes! Keep asking and He is faithful to forgive.
---catherine on 8/21/09


"duane is correct. The blood of Jesus is sufficient to cancel ALL our sins. He died ONCE for them all. He paid in full for our salvation."
Donna66 on 8/20/09

So, if you sin against your brother you do not have to go and get reconciled with him? If he comes to you and calls your trespass, would you tell him that God got it covered, to go take it up with him?
---Nana on 8/21/09


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Donna ... Doesn't seem right to me! You seem to be saying that a serial adulterer, or child molester, "gets saved", and then ALL his sins including his future ones, are forgiven.

If the serial adulterer finds a few more women to betray, or the child abuser falls back into his old habits, are yuo saying those sins are automatically forgiven?

I don't get that!
---alan8566_of_uk on 8/21/09


duane is correct. The blood of Jesus is sufficient to cancel ALL our sins. He died ONCE for them all. He paid in full for our salvation.

WE suffer frustration if we find ourselves repeating sins that we once repented of, because we desire to be more like our Master, Jesus, and have obviously failed. It shows us that we need to depend on the Lord more and follow Him more closely.
---Donna66 on 8/20/09


If your already a Christian, your set free from sin. It has no power over you anymore.
Sin is not counted against you.
If this were not so, then the Cross would be meaningless.
Have faith in what Christ has done for you.
Trust in what HE has already done, not in what the flesh must do or feel.
---duane on 8/20/09


Chris, I hope you understand what I am going to say, since many do not see God as I do.
One thing that is more important then anything, is, "Do you have a true love for Christ?"
You should know if you do. For no one who is lost has it. Only genuine believers have a true love for Christ. There is many passages that speak about this. And I believe everyone struggles as Christians, just as Paul struggled, and he was very close to God after his conversion.
To love the Lord with all of your heart is only possible if you are save.
---MarkV. on 8/20/09


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Chris, I hope you understand what I am going to say, since many do not see God as I do.
One thing that is more important then anything, is, "Do you have a true love for Christ?"
You should know if you do. For no one who is lost has it. Only genuine believers have a true love for Christ. There is many passages that speak about this. And I believe everyone struggles as Christians, just as Paul struggled, and he was very close to God after his conversion.
To love the Lord with all of your heart is only possible if you are save.
---MarkV. on 8/20/09


When I repeat the same sin, I do not consider myself as having been sufficiently repentant the first time and feel that my love of Christ and his word is perhaps still too weak. How can I know or love the master that I do not serve? All of us struggle to overcome bad habits and bad traits. I'm not sure if my heart is completely right with God, if I would in my weakness rather do my own will (or the devil's). I am hoping that there is enough mercy wipe away my sin, when God sees me struggling to become a better person. Meanwhile I work to be a better person in hopes that someday, my repentance will be sincere enough and deep enough to keep me from repeating my sins.
---chris on 8/19/09


The Bible says that if we confess our sins God is just and faithful to forgive and cleanse from ALL unrighteousness. Confession is NOT the same as repentance. You MUST also repent (turn from) your sins, and change your actions. This is what God requires.
---Leslie on 8/19/09


I too, struggle with repeated sin, but I do believe God forgives me as long as I ask for forgiveness. However, though we may be forgiven it does not mean that we won't suffer the consequences of our actions. The shame and guilt becomes stronger each time and it eventually can lead to health related problems. I am starting to realize that to stop repeating the same sin begins with finding out why it began in the first place. Search yourself, pray, and read God's Word. Find someone you can talk to about it. The more it's discussed, the more it's revealed and the answers become clear.
---Rita on 8/19/09


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I too, struggle with repeated sin, but I do believe God forgives me as long as I ask for forgiveness. However, though we may be forgiven it does not mean that we won't suffer the consequences of our actions. The shame and guilt becomes stronger each time and it eventually can lead to health related problems. I am starting to realize that to stop repeating the same sin begins with finding out why it began in the first place. Search yourself, pray, and read God's Word. Find someone you can talk to about it. The more it's discussed, the more it's revealed and the answers become clear.
---Rita on 8/19/09


Let God answer your question. Read Romans 7, notice the problem and the solution. Now look at John 3:1-21, then Romans 8. There is only one way of victory and that is the way of faith. Faith comes by hearing the word of God (Rom 10:17), not by listening to the words of the serpent. Faith is His gift to us (Eph 2:8). It is our privilege to exercise faith and submit to His work--for He alone can do the work. Just as certainly as He healed the sick, He can cleanse from sin (Matt 9:6). He is able to keep us from falling and to complete the work He has begun (Jude 1:24).
---Wayne8738 on 8/19/09


why do i sin the same sin over and over again even though i dont want to do it and after doing it i say im srry and then i go online forums to see if god will forgive me for this repeated sin.....( i dont love it more than salvation at alll i hate it actually because i know its ruini my life ) will god forgive me and how can i stop it?
---mina on 7/25/09


---duane's answer on 7/13/09 is really good.
---mima on 7/13/09


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If someone is a Christian. I mean someone who has followed the steps to salvation. Hear, believe, repent, confess, and has been baptized then yes God will forgive repeated sins when we confess them and ask for forgiveness. Scripture tells us that if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us. The only sin that wont be forgiven is the one we don't ask to be forgiven of.
---Jon on 7/13/09


Can God forgive repeated sins?..HE already has!! Jesus came to put AWAY sin.
Doesnt anyone believe in the work of the Cross anymore?
The question should make no sense to a Christian.
---duane on 7/13/09


There is a way out of the sin, confess cycle that God may allow (sometimes for years) in order to deal with our pride. For permanent victory personalize Isaiah 53. Look at Jesus suffering and dying for that sin in your place. Meditate on the suffering and grief you caused Jesus. Let it sink in deep and feel your grief for the grief you caused Him.
---Les_Dennis on 7/13/09


.gary, No body invented God, for God is the very beginning and before him no thing existed. God has created all things for his pleasure, and like a potter wiht his clay Jesus created man in his own shape. He is the Commander over his own creation, and the clay should not reply against its Maker. And "To one that knows to do good, and does not, to that one it is sin. And these will go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." James 4:5+ Matthew 25:46.
---Eloy on 4/29/08


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If you want to the answer my zealous religion teacher once said was this. God does not forgive repeat sinners if they have confessed for it before. Catechism is fun for this.
---John_Degras on 4/29/08


The mercies of Jesus Christ are renewed day by day.
---Mima on 4/29/08


Ist of all who invented God to lord over us and condemn those who don't concede. A sin is merely an act against our own spirit/conscious and the damage of repeated sins is to scar the spirit and weaken it.
---Gary on 4/29/08


Sin has consequences, every time you sin you are nailing Jesus Christ to the cross all over again. I would ask why would anyone do this to someone whom they say that they love and worship? Jesus did not say, Go and sin some more, so I can forgive you, No, by no means: but instead Jesus says to the forgiven, Go and sin NO MORE. You must choose whom you are going to obey, you cannot serve sin and also serve Christ. If you truly love him, then show it by keeping his Commandments.
---Eloy on 4/29/08


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How many of your sins were yet FUTURE when JesusChrist died for you at the cross?
ALL OF THEM INCLUDING THE ONES FROM NEXT WEEK/MONTH/YEAR.

Your priority is not Sinning Prevention is being productive for the Lord.
Focusing on this will take care of many other aspects of your Christian life.
If you are looking to server your master things will follow in place and the most secure prove of this is that the enemy will attack with temptation constantly.
---Mario on 4/28/08


As long as you stay with God and you are sincere, God will keep helping you. He knew what He was getting when He got you, and you will change. God changes us little by little. Again, you cannot change yourself.
---catherine on 4/27/08


If a person keeps repeating the same sin over and over again, then sooner or later, God is going to get tired of that. And turn that person over to a reprobate mind.
---Rebecca_D on 4/27/08


would God forgive repeated sins? YEs he does.In the bible Jesus says how often should you forgive your brother 70 times 7 . meaning everytime someone hurts us. the same way with God., he forgives us each and everytime if we are truely sorry. this is what i have been taught and i BELIEVE.
---Lorraine on 8/14/07


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1 John 2 3And hereby we know that we know Him: if we keep His commandments.
4He that saith, "I know Him," and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar and the truth is not in him.
5But whoso keepeth His Word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in Him.
6He that saith that he abideth in Him, ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked.
---Lisa on 8/14/07


Romans6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law-but under grace? God forbid!16 Know ye not that to whomever ye yield yourselves as servants to obey, his servants ye become whom ye obey, whether of sin which leads unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.1 John 3:9Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin, for His seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
---Lisa on 8/14/07


if you mean it.
Jesus said this though...we are to sin no more.
John 5:14Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said unto him, "Behold, thou art made whole. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee."
John 8:11She said, "No man, Lord." And Jesus said unto her, "Neither do I condemn thee, go, and sin no more."
---Lisa on 8/14/07


God would forgive however he also cautions on taking his grace for granted-
---nane on 8/8/07


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Yes...he does. God said he would forgive. Everytime we ask. But we have to ask. It is no way we can continue to live in this world, and not commit sins. The world we live in is sin-filled. When we confess,repent and ask forgiveness its like taking a shower. We are cleansed and come back into fellowship with God. Without confession and asking forgiveness of our sins, it is like walking around constantly dirty(unconfessed sins) We need that shower(forgiveness)and we need it every single day.
---Robyn on 8/7/07


God would be a hypocrite if he taught one thing but did another. Matthew 5:38-42, Luke 6:27-31.
---Steveng on 8/7/07


We confess our sins and repent He is faithful and just to forgive us.However God is no fool........We are given countless admonitions by Jesus Himself in the scripture to avoid sin.If we deliberately go on sinning after we come to the knowledge of the Truth we treat the Blood of Christ as a common thing.....Not all who say Lord,Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven,but those obey His word.. faith in Christ's sacrifice alone but Faith without Faithfulness is "Flawed" read book James.
---Frank on 8/7/07


We all repeat sins...Christ forgave all sin
---duane on 7/20/07


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Yes. First, I challenge you to find one place (this is a question I have asked myself, too) in the Bible - was there ever a person who came to God with a repentant heart, and God did not forgive him?
---Christina on 7/20/07


Second, I want you to really look at the words Jesus spoke on the Cross - "It is finished!" He and God knew that it is finished, is it possible He said them just for our benefit? So that we knew that ALL sin of the ENTIRE WORLD for ALL time was paid in full. (And if you read through the book of Hebrews, you will find that the sin they were dealing with was that of apostasy - rejecting Christ. There's no forgiveness apart from Christ and "no other sacrifice for sin.")
---Christina on 7/20/07


But thanks be to God through Christ Jesus - IT IS FINISHED!
---Christina on 7/20/07


Now, if you are dealing with repeated sin, what do you do?? Good question. First, be sure you are saved - that you are trusting in Jesus's death on the cross and ressurection for salvation for sin. Second, assuming you are trusting Jesus to SAVE YOU FROM YOUR SINS, trust Jesus to SAVE you from THIS sin. :D That is, from the power of this sin over your life, since He's already saved you from the penalty of sin. Jesus came to SAVE us from ALL our sins. He's a good God! :D Trust in Him to do that even now.
---Christina on 7/20/07


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Yes.....He does. Everytime we ask for forgiveness He forgives. Read I John 1:9. We are going to sin as long as we are in this sinful world. We have no goodness of our own. This is also where Grace comes in. Without it we would be lost with no hope. Thank God for His amazing Grace.
---Robyn on 7/10/07


*God tells us to forgive eachother 70 times 7 every day.*

Jesus also said when they repent forgive them.

Luke 17
"If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him. 4If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, 'I repent,' forgive him."
---Matthew_from_LA on 7/11/07


God tells us to forgive eachother 70 times 7 every day. I'm sure He is prepared to do at least as good as He expects us to do for eachother. Grace is still greater than sin. If there is continuous ongoing problem with repeating the same sin then the person should seak help in that area.
---john on 7/10/07


God forgives ALL sins. His one requirement is to repent (turn away from) that sin. Then you will be forgiven.
---Leslie on 1/3/07


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Yes He does but we should not abuse His goodness. There comes a time when He will conclude that we really love the SIN more than the SALVATION He offers us freely and when we reach that point we are about to commit the unpardonable sin! P.
---Pierr5358 on 10/30/06


If you know what you are going to do is a sin and you don't want to do it - but your friend is asking you to do it - you explain why you can't. They persist and you relent because you don't want to hurt them or make them feel rejected. Yet afterwards you feel hurt cause you betrayed God, what do you do?
---grace3869 on 10/28/06


God forgives, Johnny.
---R.A. on 10/26/06


2,000 years ago, Jesus died on the cross, when he did this, he paid for all sin for all time. Israel had to have a blood sacrifice to attone their sins, God used his Son's blood to once and for all attone our sins. Those who go to the Lake of fire today, go with their sins paid for.
---Jerry on 5/2/06


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John, I, too, think of the 70 x 7 (that's 490). Some sins are attitudes.. e.g. I may try to clarify some doctrine for a fellow believer. But later, hours maybe days, the HS shows me that I was motivated more by pride than sincere concern. Why could I not SEE it before I spoke? I repent..AGAIN. For my every sin is paid for. Jesus said it was finished. That sin is covered by the Blood. Can it be "uncovered"?. PTL,God doesn't say, "sorry, this was the 491st time!"
---Donna2277 on 3/25/06


(conclusion) The sacrafice that Jesus made eliminated the brokeness of our relationship with God for those who love Him. Jesus said that the two greatest commandments were to love God and each other. If we do this then the frailty of our human flesh become secondary to the desire to please God. Pray that God would give you this desire.
---Rich on 3/25/06


(continued) In effect, He had to tell us what rebellion was. Mankind has since defined our relationship with God through our earthly deeds. Jesus came and told the Pharisees that they missed the point. Jesus told them that the point is to love God. It is the condition of our heart and our love of God that produces fruit. If we love God, truly respect and awe Him, then we will not want to rebel. Our forgiveness is based on our love of God and demonstrated in our repentence. (continued)
---Rich on 3/25/06


In the beginning there was no sin. Adam rebelled and sin was born. Mankind continued to rebel and more distance between man and God developed. God put down in writing (10 commandments) the things that defined mankind's rebellion. (continued)
---Rich on 3/25/06


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One thing I have come to learn is that forgiveness is a issue of the heart. When God looks at our heart and sees that we really dont want to do those things we shouldnt and find no joy in them. He is merciful. Paul said if I do the things I dont want to, It is not I but the sin in me.
---Chris on 3/25/06


God desires fellowship with us. Since sin separates from God, it is sin that God has to deal with in order to keep the way for fellowship open. If He didn't forgive repeated sin, wouldn't He be defeating His own purpose for sending Jesus to the cross? That's not to excuse repeated sin. We always need to be seeking to overcome areas of weakness but God does not want sin between Him and His beloved. That's why He forgives.
---DoryLory on 3/25/06


Heb 10:26 if we continue to sin deliberately after...there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. See most of Hebrews for this topic. Well this is my word of so long so I can get back to my research on a post doctorate fellowship. To you all, study to show yourself approaved... love billy

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---Billy on 3/25/06




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