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Corporal Punishment OK Teenager

I am 17 years old and have been getting into trouble lately. My father believes that corporal punishment is ok, but my mother and I disagree. When we told him this, he brought out the bible. What do we do?

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 ---Caitlan on 3/26/06
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Well the Bible does say do not with hold correction from your child. Something my own father believed in. Bit late to start at 17 though should have been done earlier to keep you out of trouble in first place.
---Captpaul on 10/9/12


If I had kids, they would have cell phones once they started to school,

BUT

they could contact only me, one other adult, 911, and a taxi company.

In other words, it would be strictly for emergencies.
---Cluny on 3/16/11


Cluny-- Good point about keeping kids away from sports, esp. when other people are counting on them! And sports are good for them (besides being a good outlet for strong emotions). I'd rather see them do without their cell phones.(They could use mine for essential calls).

I think it's unfair to assume that children who are spanked become the "wrong" crowd ..or that their parents are "lazy". Some of "wrong crowd" are that way because they get little or no discipline of any kind.
---Donna66 on 3/15/11


Cluny-- Good point about keeping kids away from sports, esp. when other people are counting on them! And sports are good for them (besides being a good outlet for strong emotions). I'd rather see them do without their cell phones.(They could use mine for essential calls).

I think it's unfair to assume that children who are spanked become the "wrong" crowd ..or that their parents are "lazy". Some of "wrong crowd" are that way because they get little or no discipline of any kind.
---Donna66 on 3/15/11


Robyn--// You and your mom is in the company of a maniac who definitely does not know the bible and will kill someone if he is not gotten..first.//

How can you say this? You don't even know this man! You do not know the son either...except that he's formed an alliance with his mother against his father. There are problems here, all right. And neither you, nor we, know what they are...no justification for calling someone a homicidal maniac when you don't even know his side of the story.
---Donna66 on 3/15/11




I think Dad is way over the top and out of line. He is also using the bible as a weapon. The bible should not be used this way. You and your mom is in the company of a maniac who definitely does not know the bible and will kill someone if he is not gotten..first. This is no way to treat a 17 yr old. He is not disciplining this teen he is into punishment,shame etc... A big difference.If the correction had started earlier,perhaps he would not be in the pickle he's in right now. At 17, a teen should be grounded. Privileges taken away. These type punishments.
---Robyn on 3/15/11


Hehehe! I LOVE your tongue-in-cheek humor Cluny :D
---Mary on 3/10/11


\\my childrens correction is missed time with their favorite activities sports etc \\

And that way you teach them not to fulfill their obligations, such as being present for practice and games, and such, Rhonda.
---Cluny on 3/10/11


\\Kids should grow up with the whip.\\

But not just any whip.

Oh, no. Use a nice, freshly oiled whip that laid across their tender flesh in clean, even strokes, with a smooth rhythmic popping sound, until a little blood wells up into the welts.

And then make them kiss the whip and your feet afterwards.

That will teach the little rebellious sickies some decency, right corporalgirl123?
---Cluny on 3/10/11


Guess what? Corporal punishment is the way to go, at least in my opinion. And the quote your dad is probably referring to is, "spare the rod, spoil the child", and that still is true. Kids should grow up with the whip.I'm not saying that it should constantly be used, because too much of anything is bad. But children should fear doing wrong, or they will not understand the consequences. Ok, so there are alot of kids who get in trouble at my school, and the teachers constantly threat, threat, threat with the discipline forms and yada yada. You want to get some results? USe that paddle, pop that mouth if they're being a smart alek, and that will be effective.if we still did that, and parents weren't so whiny about it, we'd see results
---corporalgirl123 on 3/6/11




Negotitate the terms of the discipline based on what you think you can take.Example-ask him if five swats,
ping pong paddle,
on each cheek is an acceptable level of pain. That may spare you from the dreaded willow switch. Receive the punishment with a manly spirit, accept the discipline with the spirit of a courageous nine year old who is getting what he deserves. Allow yourself to be humbled and to be humble.
You will be 18 soon, and above all this.
One more good spanking is not going to dent your future. Be a man and take it.
---rick on 5/23/10


corp. punish. ? ok. but how ? bare bottom? maybe you need it . I remember in school , we used to get 6 of the best. I used to put on a half of dozen underpants so I bearly felt it. once a teacher put me over the desk for a spanking and somebody snitched about my underpants ...... oh boy !! he bared my bottom and then put me over the desk and 12 strokes administered
---rick on 11/8/09


Amen Mark

Alan it is sad

what I saw with my older children was they began to LEARN who to associate themselves with - eventually weeding out friends whose parents used beatings

my childrens correction is missed time with their favorite activities sports etc

...their once-friends who received beatings would attempt to influence my kids with wrong actions they began to understand their friends never evaluated their actions because outcome was always the same - an hour or so of quick fleeting physical pain ...my children THOUGHT about their actions and future consequences unlike those children who are ignored overlooked by their parents getting beat by parents instead of seeking understanding and resolution
---Rhonda on 11/7/09


Rhonda ... I agree with you completely!

Beating a teenager shows the inadequacy of the adult/parent, and inability to communicate with thier offspring.

What have they been doing these first 12 or more years of their child's life?

Just beating, not talking?

How sad!
---alan8566_of_uk on 11/5/09


it is not a matter of disagreement it is AGAINST the law

as for Gods Law ...correction by means of spanking is done for young children who are unable to understand completely and quickly forget

older children who are able to COMMUNICATE articulate and comprehend SHOULD be talked to like adults and LEARN LESSONS of wrong behavior by taking away privileges etc ...if getting into trouble usually done by association with WRONG friends - limit or forbid contact with them and activities that lead to "trouble"

there are no lessons learned by BEATING or spanking a child approaching adulthood it is the LAZY parents way so they don't have to monitor
---Rhonda on 11/1/09


I paddle my stepsons who are 14 and ten and i will continue until they are 18 (unless they leave home). Corporal punishment is discipline and not abuse when fair and legal. I was caned which was brutal.
---David on 10/31/09


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If your father is unable to communicate with you without being physically abusive there's something wrong with him. Tell him that you will call Child Protective Services if he lays a hand on you.
---Mark on 10/30/09


Caitlan:-Tell your Father to read all the bible not just those parts which say "spare the rod and spoil the child"That is the doctrine of a BULLY not a father.Tell him to read I Cor13:1-13.The greatest commandment is love as Jesus said "Love one another as I have loved You"Respect begets respect.Honour your father and mother is also a commandment.I am sorry to say your dad is going overboard.You are now a young lady and should conduct yourself accordingly,with reserve.
---MIC on 12/18/08


catherine: "YOUR DAD IS SICK! Now, that is clear."

Is it clear? We don't even know the father.

"Tell your dad to get saved first and then bring out the Bible and the commentaries and the dictionaries don't forget God and then your dad can preach."

You sure do assume a lot. How do we know if the father is a Christian or not?

"Have a good day, my friend."

That's an empty statement.
---Steveng on 12/17/08


YOUR DAD IS SICK! Now, that is clear. No where in the Bible does God advocate abuse. Tell your dad to get saved first and then bring out the Bible and the commentaries and the dictionaries don't forget God and then your dad can preach. Have a good day, my friend.
---catherine on 12/17/08


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I think that your father has every right to apply corporal punishment because you know that you are doing wrong yet you still get into trouble. I am also a christian and in the bible it is okay for your parent to apply corporal punishment when you step out of line. So yes it is okay for your father to turn to corporal punishment if you hahve been getting in trouble. Maybe you won't get in trouuble.
---Mark on 12/16/08


catherine" "Tell your dad if he cannot..."

Boy, do you have a warped sense of who should be in control. God does not take into account the age for punishment.

Most parents today are the children/grandchildren of a rebellious culture of the 1960s and 1970s. They trusted such parenting advice as Dr. Spock instead of the Bible. The children today are more rebellious than ever before. Each decade the rebellious children became worse and worse.

Plus, many parents today are immature. They try to be "friends" with their kids. They try to act young thinking they are young, but this is wrong. Children have brought shame on their parents by not learning obedience.
---Steveng on 8/5/08


Tell your dad if he cannot read but one scripture to put the Bible away. Not only that, but him don't understand scripture. Tell him to ask God if it's okey for him to use corporal punishment which means beating you up. God don't even like for me to hollow at my cats. Are cats more precious than you, to God?
---catherine on 8/4/08


To the 17 yr. old who asked the question for this blog, perhaps the scriptures shown to you and your mother were in Proverbs. In Proverbs chapter 23, verses 13 & 14 it says "withold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." In the Hebrew language, the word translated for "beat" means "to strike." I'm sure the Lord wasn't implying to break bones or do serious damage, but since "foolishness is bound in the heart of a child, the rod of correction will drive it far from him" is in Proverbs chapter 22,verse 15, this is a way to give discipline to a child who continues to misbehave.
---theresa on 8/4/08


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Perhaps you could consider becoming a young Adult. Stop getting in trouble and begin to listen to Your father's rules. Then after you're 18 years of age and graduated from high school. You can move out on your own. You might also read the Bible and see where your father is coming from.
---mima on 8/2/08


Caitlin: I disagree with your father, but since you acknowledge that you are getting into trouble, why not stop misbehaving and do what is right?
---Madison on 11/2/07


I was about 15 when my dad hit me for some terrible thing that I did! I endured the pain simply because I almost killed my younger brother in my carelessness! That event was never repeated. I respected my father more after that incident. I knew he meant business. I considered that the turning point of my life!
---Raine on 3/27/06


"Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Honor your father and mother (which is the first commandment with a promise), so that it may be well with you, and that you may live long on the earth." (Ephesians 6:1-3). If you are like most 17 year olds, you have expectations of a long, good life on the earth. According to this Bible verse it would be in your best interest to honor your parents. This means whether you agree with them or not. The promise is in honoring them.
---DoryLory on 3/26/06


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Caitlan here is the real problem;
Who is the "we" in "What do we do?"
I see a rebellious 17 year old that has got Mom to team up with them against Dad.
Madison asked you a simple question so why don't you do what is right?
If you are wrong it makes no difference how many you "get" on your side. Grow up, ask forgiveness of your parents and take your punishment.
You have put your mother in a bad spot.
Join the Army you will like the discipline there.
---Elder on 3/26/06


What to do? Obedience is a good start. What kind of trouble have you been into? Drugs? Stay away from them and people who use them. Downhill road. When I was 17 I still got spanked, usually because of disobedience. Corporal punishment? Maybe a trip to the woodshed wouldn't hurt. Always strive to do what's right, even if it means losing a friend.
---Nellah on 3/26/06


Stop getting into trouble!
---eliza4969 on 3/26/06


Dear boy, please obey your parents. It is sad that your mother does not support your father on this issue. God tells us to obey our parents and respect them. Why do you get in trouble? If you were my son, you would get punished according to your evil deeds and if it requires corporal punishment, you WOULD get it.
---shira on 3/26/06


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Caitlan: Hopefully he didn't hit you with the Bible. If not, did he read/quote anything from the Bible? What?
---Leon on 3/26/06


Your father probably pointed out the verse 'spare the rod and spoil the child'. One problem there though is when is a child no longer a child? You do not say what kind of trouble you are getting into. If you are behaving like a child your father might feel that he should still treat you like one. If you are breaking the law perhaps he should just let you take whatever consequences will follow from that. Parenting is very difficult and stressful and so is growing up. Been there, done both.
---emg on 3/26/06


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