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Would you call two people living together in sin, the sin called fornication, would you call them Christians? Would you go into business partners with them if they are not following God's word and living in sin?

Moderator - No. No.

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Two people living together, without being "Married", is wrong in God's Word. And, they are not "Christians". If, they think this, is ok, there is no telling what, they would think, was ok in Business!
---Ruby on 2/10/08


Absolutely not! And I would not be associated with them in business if in fact they got married just to satisfy Christians belief About this. Stand back, stay away!!
---mima on 3/24/07


Jack ... We all sin, even Christians.
But those who persist and wifully persist in any particular sin do not give us much confidence that they are indeed Christians.
---alan8869_of_UK on 5/13/06


So, we're now in positions to judge. Wow... mercy on us all, Jesus...
---StellaD on 5/13/06


Donna and Moderator, do your own sins mean that you are not a Christian? If not, why should the sins of other people negate their faith?

Moderator - I can't see in this screen. If you want me to answer, you will need to quote me. Thanks.
---Jack on 5/13/06




I still think the counsel stands but, thank God, that's all straightened out. I was having a hard time reconciling "Spirit-filled" and "habitual, unrepentant fornication". Now I don't have to :).
---Linda on 3/29/06


This question is a good example of how internet land makes it possible to get everything twisted around and made to sound like something it isn't. I thought you were saying the couple was Spirit-filled (you can see that in one of my responses) instead of your friend who is wanting to go into business with them.
---Linda on 3/29/06


Ah...Donna...I think I understand what you saying. You have a friend who is Spirit-filled who is wanting to partner with another couple (man and woman) who are living together. He has asked your counsel and you have already told him the same thing you heard on this blog, right? However, he doesn't agree completely with you and you aren't sure if you are believing the right way concerning this situation, right?
---Linda on 3/29/06


Donna9759 Do you read the word of God? if you do then you know it's wrong! stay away from them but pray for them. as for that so called spirit filled person that does not see the truth and feels there is nothing wrong is calling God a liar. on the other hand if they feel it is wrong and are sorry and want to change but don't and can't seem to find their way out of it then they need to lean on God to find their way.
---eliza4969 on 3/27/06


I am not sure if this is helping you any because I am not sure that I completely understand what you are saying regarding this couple.
---Linda on 3/27/06




He even told those Corinthians to deliver that man up to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. I know for a fact that you cannot be spirit-filled and not be experiencing the conviction of righteousness that the Holy Ghost brings over habitual, willing sin. The longer you go grieving the Holy Spirit, the more closed your ears get and the more calloused your heart becomes. Not a good idea to grieve the Holy Spirit.
---Linda on 3/27/06


I believe the passages from Corinthians answers your question, really. If he is spirit-filled, he is obviously choosing to walk in darkness if he is committing habitual fornication and is actually arrogant about it as though it doesn't matter. One who is repentant will show a willingness to stop and be asking Father for help. Although there are many sins in the epistles, the one Paul spent more time dealing with in regards to church discipline was the sin of fornication,.
---Linda on 3/27/06


Linda, I need to make sure it's not me that's believing the wrong thing. I've told my friend that 2 people living together in fornication is sin and not to be in business partners with them. He is spirit filled, and yet doesn't see that truth. So I need to make sure my beliefs are correct. I'm open to God showing me differently if it's the truth.

Moderator - What spirit is he filled with? Demonic?
---Donna9759 on 3/27/06


I would say that entering into a business deal with them would be the same as keeping company with them. If their understanding about the things of God is so darknened that they will commit sin against their own bodies, then they will commit sins against others. I wouldn't want to get caught in the backwash.
---Linda on 3/27/06


1Co 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a **brother** be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one no not to eat.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
1Co 5:13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
---Linda on 3/27/06


Do they confess the name of Christ? In the epistle to the Corinthians, there was a man sleeping with his father's wife. Obviously fornication. Here is what he says:

1Co 5:9 I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
1Co 5:10 Yet not altogether the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
---Linda on 3/27/06


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Sounds like you already have your answer if you have to ask the question.
---Linda on 3/27/06


Jude 21-23 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. and on some have compassion, making a distinction; but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.
---eliza4969 on 3/27/06


If two people were living together I would consider them to be sinners. But that don't mean they are bad people, they just need God in their lives. If you can trust them to go into business then I would do it. Some sinners treat me better than these people that claim to be christians. You need to ask yourself if you would go into business with them, and talk to God. A sinner and a Christian can get along. My father-n-law is a sinner and I trust him with my life.
---Rebecca_D on 3/27/06


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