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Is The Whole Bible True

Is every word in the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation absolutely true? Isn't it better to be honest and say that I am not sure but it definitely contains the Word of God rather than say that its true though one is not certain? On what basis can an ordinary man vouch for the Bible?

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Billy, if it were a vision it would defeat the purpose. Satan was trying to tempt Christ. Satan told Christ to prove who he was by jumping off a building to have angels save him. That doesnt work real well in a vision. Satan set up a real world scenario in an attempt to cause Christ to stumble. Then the other verse starts the same way as if Satan does the same thing. "AGAIN, the devil taketh him up into" Matt. 4:8
---tofurabby on 10/14/07


The Bible is Holy Spirit inspired (writen by the Holy Spirit through men), and is therefore TRUE all the way through, even if you don't want to hear it.
---Leslie on 12/31/06


Danie9374, The whole Bible being true, spans into a lot of areas. This subject would be hard to keep in contex to one particular area. I'm sure were all doing the best we can to keep it in contex. Thanks.
---Billy on 9/27/06


Danie9374, I just started a new blog on God's sovernty. Thank you for the request!
---Billy on 9/27/06


Lisas, there are many passages in the bible that have much more than one meaning (application), and were directly orchestrated by God that way.
---Okebaram on 9/27/06




John, Billy, Lisa, Tofu, ???: If we want to discuss 'Election, God's choosing us to be saved' vs. 'the concept that each person's salvation finally rests in their own will,' how about starting another blog or posting to one of the many already begun on that subject? Let's try to keep this one on 'Is All the (Whole) Bible true' OK?
---danie9374 on 9/27/06


John, you said, *salvation has alot more to do with my choosing to accept God in my life than it does God choosing me*. John, please comment on this scripture.
Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
According to this scripture, my will to be saved means nothing unless God chose to have mercy on me. So do we think that God would choose to not have mercy on someone, if this was His decision?
---Billy on 9/26/06


Your right Tofurabby, He came to do his Fathers will. But him coming in the volume of the book means that he is the total living word of God, that came to do His will, not the bible itself. The bible gives us Gods word in written form. Jesus gives those words spiritual life. Gods word "Jesus" is spirit. Jesus was the word of God. Jesus being the book is mediforical language. The bible is just paper and ink, but the spirit brings the words alive.
---Billy on 9/26/06


Billy, Heb. 10:7 "Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God."
Jesus is basically saying "I came to do God's will, if you dont believe it then check your Bible because it will tell you the same." He is not saying that he is living in the book itself. I do agree though that the majority of the Bible is about Christ. OT keeps looking forward.
---tofurabby on 9/26/06


lisa -- the Bible IS spiritually discerned. It does take the Holy Spirit to convict a heart of one's need for salvation. Indeed, no one can accept Christ before realizing they cannot do it on their own. However, salvation has alot more to do with my choosing to accept God in my life than it does God choosing me. God is not willing for anyone to perish, but unfortunately many, or most will. That is because they did not accept Christ... Christ has already accepted them.
---John on 9/26/06




4. I say this because we are not able of ourselves to bring ourselves out of spiritual death, to open our eyes, to open our ears, are to give ourselves the faith that it takes to believe that Word of God. God has to give us that faith too.
---lisa on 9/26/06


3. People come to Christ by listening to the Word of God. Without it they don't know about God. So I find that his explanation is correct that in order for others to come to Christ they need to hear the Word. The Word has life in it, and without it you are lost. That is why God saves us, through His Word. His Truth. Yet, it doesn't happen to everyone because the word has to be spiritually discern, so in order for us to understand, God has to give us life, and open our eyes and ears to His Word.
---lisa on 9/26/06


2. But this takes descipline and a desire to learn the truth. Every Christian is going to make some errors, but if his intentions are to learn more of God's Word, the Spirit of God will guide him. Tufuabby is also correct what he states on the Word of God, Scripture. People come to Christ by the Word of God. It has life for the unbeliever. Yet many will read and understand nothing. Here is where I find that it is Holy Spirit who brings life those lost persons. This work has to be done by God.
---lisa on 9/26/06


Daniel, you are absolutely correct in that each passage has one intrinsic meaning only. What God meant on each passage should be understood first, and then we are to apply it to our lives. I try to first find what God meant on a perticular passage. What was the conditions for that passage and to whom was God speaking to and why. Culture means a lot too for what was given to some at one time might not be for another time.
---lisa on 9/26/06


Aurunoday, I know it's hard to believe for you sometimes. But this may help: tonight, go outside and look into the night sky. The God who created the glorious universe is capable of allowing inerrancy in his inspired word. Yes every word in the bible is true keeping in mind it's implied meaning in its specific context. The bible's stories, doctrines and prophecies are all completely true, and I want you to understand that. While it may seem foolish to your logical mind, it is the wisdom of God.
---Okebaram on 9/25/06


(3). Telling someone that they need to be born again is carnal words with spiritual meaning. Not unless you think that you can enter into your mothers womb again to be born a second time?

You said, "Dont they need to be children of God first before they can spiritually discern anything"? Tofurabby, even spiritual babes in Christ, can discern, and be feed with spiritual milk, till that can handle a T-bone stake.
---Billy on 9/25/06


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(2). Reading his word with carnal understanding can only give you carnal answers. Read his inspired word, with the inspired Holy Spirit, and youll find hidden treasures worth much more than all the carnal wealth in the world.

You said, "How do you teach someone to be born again if you dont speak to their carnal flesh"? Tofurabby, yes they can be told that they need to be born again, but no one can be tought with words, to be born again. That is only a work that can be done by the spirit.
---Billy on 9/25/06


Tofurabby, it doesnt take rocket science to understand that His word is spirit. When you read Gods word, if God doesnt add his spirit to the words that you read, your just reading dead words."Heb 10:7" Jesus came in the volume of the book that was written of him, to do his Fathers will. From Genesis to Revelation, if one has eyes to see, we can see Jesus from cover to cover.
---Billy on 9/25/06


Yes Billy, and he does so in plain English. 1 Cor 2:14 says we need to spiritually discern the things of the Spirit of God. I have no disagreement. I dont read this scripture as saying the Bible is only understood by direct spiritual revelation. How do you teach someone to be born-again if you dont speak to their carnal flesh? Dont they need to be children of God first before they can spiritually discern anything?
---tofurabby on 9/25/06


Also Tofurabby thinks that God is trying to speak to us in some way to help this corruptible flesh understand a spiritual God. But its the other way around. God is trying to teach us to crucify the flesh, and cornal mind, to become born again of the spirit. So that we can understand Gods ways, and become the children of the living God.
---Billy on 9/25/06


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Once again, all I can do is quote scripture to prove my point.
1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
"and Jesus did say that his words were spirit and life".
Its not new age meditation, or any other unbiblical nonsense. But letting Gods spirit give you the proper understanding to his word.
---Billy on 9/25/06


=2= Also, people cant understand the magnitude of God's ability because it is out of the realm of our comprehension, so they automatically find scriptures figurative because they dont believe God truly has unearthly capabilities. Billy for example, seems to think the entire Bible is some sort of mystical book from the spirit realm rather than a tool meant for humans to utilize. Almost like we need to do some sort of new age meditation to reach a spiritual plane to understand it.
---tofurabby on 9/25/06


danie, you said "The meaning of a Scripture passage may *not* be obvious for someone!" Which is the reason I take my stance. I see people all the time making up metaphors for scriptures they dont understand. I guess some people are afraid to admit they dont get it so they concoct figurative meanings rather than fully exploring the rest of scripture for answers. cont.
---tofurabby on 9/25/06


=4= Obviously none of us know for sure exactly what every part of The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John means (nor some other portions of the Bible!), but unlike the times of Nehemiah and Malachi, there's really no need for God to reveal anything further! So, 'new revelation'? Very highly unlikely. 'New applications' of Scripture (no Believer has thought of before): Possibly. And it should be a certainty that every Believer will have new insights and applications in/for their own lives!
---danie9374 on 9/25/06


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=3= But there's little The Body of Christ as a whole hasn't already learned; though much was lost by many at various times, over 1900 years of living and studying Scripture! This is why seminaries and teaching pastors acquire libraries full of the thoughts of those from the past who diligently studied Scripture in their time. Though new aspects to society not specifically dealt with in the Bible can arise, Scripture is still sufficient for us to find passages we can apply when need be! [Cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/25/06


=2= AND may still mean to Believers today (concerning things God tells us are *not* just historical events), or would/or still will mean in the case of future prophecy! HOWEVER, no one is given 'New Revelation' by merely reading the Words God already gave us. You may have insights none of your friends do (and vice versa), AND there can be many ways to APPLY a Scripture passage in our lives; especially if new technology is involved. [Cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/25/06


=1= Lisa, concerning your last (3-part) comment: I've often had the pleasure of listening to someone discover out-loud an 'insight' into some portion of God's Word during a group Bible study, and I think that's what you're talking about here. But I must caution everyone: This does not change the fact, there can only be ONE true interpretation of each passage; what it specifically meant to those who first heard or read it at that time... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/25/06


I would hope that most christians can answer this next question.

Why did Jesus speak in parables?
---Billy on 9/24/06


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When Jesus went into the temple and turned over the money changers tables, the Jews wanted a sigh as to why he had done this. But did Jesus give any words to the affect that his next comment was going to be totally spiritual and not physical "John 2:19"? No Jesus didnt. Everyone, including his disciples thought that Jesus was speaking of the physical temple that they were standing in at the time. His disciples only knew what he really ment, after he was resurrected.
---Billy on 9/24/06


Jesus did say that "John 6:63" his words were spirit, and life. Everything that Jesus said to the multitudes, had a greater spiritual meaning. Because with out a parable "Mat 13:34" spake he not unto them. So, every physical word that he spoke, was describing things of the spirit.
---Billy on 9/24/06


[*3*] are/were explaining a passage in light of its whole CONTEXT, using Scripture first, languages, history then other resources, but *not* attempting to ONLY conform us to their belief system, rather to discover truth for ourselves! To truly KNOW GOD. Far too many who call themselves Christians hand over their responsibility for following God to Church, pastor or whomever! Yes, Believers who know the LORD can help in this, but it's still up to YOU to seek the mind of God in understanding His Words.
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


[*2*] of Scripture! But even those who do, often leave the most important ideas they'll ever consider in their lives up to others! To really know what God says, you must dump all biased baggage, and ask the Spirit to understand the meaning of each passage; not only by itslef, but in light of all Scripture. You'll never arrive at the truth by 'mystically' expecting it to be dumped into your brain either! Pastors/Teachers, whether still alive or in books, may help at times BUT ONLY IF they... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


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[*1*] tofu, you said: "...if it is OBVIOUSLY figurative," but that's precisely what the problem is: The meaning of a Scripture passage may *not* be obvious for someone! The truth or error of some belief for those who've been brainwashed into thinking a certain way, is often far from obvious! First, if a person isn't indwelt by the Holy Spirit, they're merely guessing about what God wants us to know, since they don't know the Author... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


Ruben, In rememberance I will take bread and eat it just as Christ said to. I will remember that his body broke just for me. The bread is a figure of the body breaking not the flesh itself. He was describing the action of "breaking the bread" when he said "this is my body, which is broken for you". So yes, I brake bread to remember his body which was broke for me. Just like it is written.
---tofurabby on 9/22/06


the bottom line is that if it is OBVIOUSLY figurative then that is what it is. Most of the time there is a clue given to let you know if it is a figure or not. Otherwise, if there is any qestion, then I will side on the literal every time.
---tofurabby on 9/22/06


3. If you go around quoting at random, you will not make sense to anyone on what you are saying. Each passage read after we have determined if it is a parable, explicit, implicit, a noun, as a noun, and a verb as a verb, yet many times we do make mistakes in our interpretation but if we are serious about learning God's word all we have to do is compare other passages and if they don't agree, it is our job to find the right implication. Just my thoughts and thanks for the comments.
---lisa on 9/22/06


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2. then others and they catch on real fast while others are slower and need more help. Since God cannot reveal everything at one time. Some I know understand things I didn't before and yet when they mention something they see, I many times also see what they see. Then after don't have a problem with the passage. You are so right about interpretation and how it is to be read literal and use what we have learn to make sense of verses.
---lisa on 9/22/06


Brother Daniel, I would also say that revelation also goes into reading. By this I mean that God has the provactive of allowing each one enough revelation for a purpose, at His time, and purpose for what we as Christians should know at the exact time He feels its time to know. I believe that many don't understand some things yet but will in a perticular time that God feels its need, since all of us are different in many ways. Some are more smarter,
---lisa on 9/22/06


[-5-] historical, etc. ideas during the time a passage was written). Much of what Scripture tells us can be understood with few problems, but please don't ever think every sentence in the Bible is 100% literal all the time. Even passages, such as those by Christ Himself in Gospels, which appear to be 100% literal, may not be! AND NO, that doesn't mean you must become a scholar to figure them out! FIRST PRAY for understanding.
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


[-4-] various plans or structures that Biblical authors followed for whole books or used inside their works. E.g., chiasmus (inversion in the second of two parallel phrases) is a 'literary device' which has been identified in both OT and NT books. Thus, when I say the Bible should be 'taken at face value' and read as we would most any other books, this also implies seeking to identify its idioms, other figures of speech and peculiarities (important cultural,... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


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[-3-] to understand correctly. Most people can easily spot that the Psalms are highly poetic in nature, but many don't realize that straight prose passages are often peppered with idioms (and remember these can be idioms which were used in cultures 2000 to even thousands more years ago!) that require doing some study of ancient cultures to understand, or were actually altered and/or introduced from a later time by the translators of your Bible version. Beyond this, there are also... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


[-2-] Lab reports, medical exam results, most legal briefs, etc. are the only types of writing that are often (and rightly so) 100% literal. Newspapers, contrary to some first thoughts, are often loaded with idioms. Almost all examples of literature from any age, including the Bible, use many different kinds of 'figures of speech' which are def. *not* to be taken literally! Unless one has some understanding of these various types of literature, portions of the Bible can be very difficult... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


[-1-] Lisa, thank you for appreciating my comments. In light of the entries by Alan_UK and tofurabby (say, are any of us correct in guessing he likes 'tofu'?) and my recent comments, I'd like to add: There's very little we read in our lifetime that's 100% straightforward LITERAL writing! Not even a good science textbook can sustain being literal all the way through; esp. if they expect to be used in elementary or high school classes. [Cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/22/06


\4\ and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart" (Hebrews 4:12). Thus, you can't read (or quote) Scripture without it having some meaning in your life! Well, unless you're spiritually dead, maybe.
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


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\3\ assigned some meaning to the words you quote from Scripture (which implies you have some interpretation of what they mean), or there'd be no point in your quoting them! Unless as I said before, you're just going to go around quoting at random; in which case, giving out Bible copies would be much better ;-). To quote the Bible on this itself: "For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword,... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


\2\ I really wanted to discuss: No one can ever actually live as you proposed; it's impossible to simply quote Scripture (attempting to always be right by doing so) without it first bringing up in your own mind What do those words MEAN?; UNLESS you're only going to do so at random; like some out of control machine. To interact with people, to have a conversation with them about the Bible, you MUST have already... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


\1\ tofurabby, what I believe Alan is saying, is that MANY people do take such verses literally! So you should never say (without any qualifictaions; additions to the contrary) the whole Bible must be read word-for-word literally, or else you'll end up with people thinking they really do eat Christ's flesh, etc., AND you can't say that's not true, if your only view of interpretation was 'literal only, period.' But getting to what... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


Tofurabby ... The words of Paul to the Corinthians do not amke it clear this is to be taken symbolically. You have made that judgment (with which I agree)
You seem to be taking upon yourself the right to say which parts of the Bible should be taken literally and which are to be taken in some other way.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/21/06


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Tofurabby-(he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me." "do in rememberance" lets us know it is symbolic, if we werent sure.) But what do you do with the words "This is my Body", ignore it..
---Ruben on 9/21/06


ps. Alan, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate the debates we have from time to time such as this one. I love your responses and usually find them challenging to answer. It is always a great help to me, because it gives me an opportunity to search scriptures for answers to questions I may have never thought to ask myself. You and many others on here have played a great role in strengthening my faith and I thank you. I hope that you havent found my challenges to your opinions too offensive.
---tofurabby on 9/21/06


Tofurabby ... The white cloud bit? Well, did you read the Bible passage?
Sometimes a city on the top of a hill is hidden, by clouds, in spite of a literal reading of scripture.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/21/06


I agree Alan, but I believe that it is usually made pretty obvious when things are not literal. An example would be in the case of this bread, 1 Cor. 11:24 expounds on what Jesus told his desciples "when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me." "do in rememberance" lets us know it is symbolic, if we werent sure.
---tofurabby on 9/21/06


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And, Tof ... Another quote by Jesus: "This (the bread at the Last Supper) is my body ... "
Literal? Did they actually eat part of Jesus' flesh? I think not, nor is His flesh actually eaten during the Commuunion celebration.
But we all know what is meant, so it is True.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/21/06


Yes Tof ... you are of course right about the salt. But actual literal salt? Granules or lumps? White? Soluble in water?
It's a question of what is meant by salt.. & I don't think you claim that we are literally the mineral, salt. Or perhaps you do?
But even though we are not the mineral salt, the passage is True.
---Alan8869_of_UK on 9/21/06


Thank you brother Daniel for your comments. More should stand up for Scripture. That is our hope, God's word to the beleiver.
---lisa on 9/21/06


not sure where you're getting the thick cloud part.
---tofurabby on 9/21/06


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Alan, Psa. 110:2 "The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion" Lexicon definition of rod:
1. staff, branch, tribe
a. staff, rod, shaft
b. branch (of vine)
c. tribe - company led by chief with staff (originally)
So does this verse make sense literally if rod is being used as a "company led by chief with staff"?
---tofurabby on 9/21/06


Good point Alan, but still, if I say that Matt. 5:13 means "Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men." I would be right, no matter what anyone else decides to read into it. Why? ...Because I gave a direct quote which is what we should do especially if we are unsure about something. Although, when I sweat, it sure tastes salty.
---tofurabby on 9/21/06


[5] salvation and even God on their own terms. It's God who tells us what He requires, not the other way round. No matter how much one studies Bible translations, Textual Criticism, peculiar ms. errors in various versions, etc., never allow satan to tempt you into thinking we can disobey God because we somehow don't know enough about truth from Scripture.
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


[4] and confirmed by Christ, salvation through Him alone (the true Gospel), the Triunity of God; Believers know these. Those who use the rhetoric 'contains the word of God,' most often desire to judge Scripture; choosing only what makes them feel good, in effect, creating their own god and *not* following the One true God! IF you as an individual are uncertain about some minor point in Scriputre, say so. But never allow the lost to think they can have... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


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[3] Either the Bible is absolutely true for Christians, or we must deny the deity of Christ and everything His Apostles said about the inspiration of Scripture! Those who bring up mistakes of ms. transmission rarely if ever study the whole subject to see how little is truly questionable. There isn't one single major doctrine affected! Yet those are the only ones I ever hear them complain about. The Creation of the Universe recorded in Genesis... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


[2] the CONTEXT of Scripture to arrive at useful MEANING; this almost always depends upon many passages (which have no problems at all), not just a single word! Almost everyone who's ever questioned the authenticity of Scripture by majoring on what words might be questionable, has done so because they wanted an excuse to deny God created us and told us how we ought to live our lives! EVEN those who don't complain about words, sometimes want to excuse Christ's commands as being 'cultural' not for us!!
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


[1] Aurunoday: Many Bibles today (*not* those produced by 'cult' groups, liberals with 'hidden agendas' or paraphrases) in spite of being translated from mss. with copyist's mistakes, are close enough to the perfect autographs as to still deserve not only the description God's authoritative word, but even infallible. Some here know I won't call any particular version 100% perfect, but when it comes to being infallible on various topics (not just theology, but history, etc. too), you must use... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 9/21/06


Tof ... But all those passages are True
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/20/06


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Tof ... Matthew 5 v 13 ... Does not use the word "like" ... so must be literal. Funny looking disciples.
Matthew 5 v 14 ... even in thick cloud?
Are we really to literally "hate" our parents, or is that hyperbole to make the point?
Ps 110 v 2 A real literal sceptre? some size!
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/20/06


Alan, I said "I will be right every time" meaning no matter what ideasanyone comes up with, the "literal interpretation" I gave will always bethe correct answer for this topic... how can I be so sure? BECAUSE I COPIED AND PASTED IT WORD FOR WORD FROM THE BIBLE. I understand you dont understand how it is possible (i dont fully understand either), ...but that doesnt change what is written and what is written isright 100% ofthe time. What I said was meant for that blog entry alone.
---tofurabby on 9/20/06


Tof ... I am not arguing with what the Bible says. All I am suggesting is that Satan did not literally and physically show Jesus through his human eye all the nations of the earth, but showed Him in some other way ... maybe by reminding Jesus what He already knew, about all those nations all the other side of the globe (and even those hiding behind nearby mountain ranges)
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/20/06


Tofurabby ... You said "I will be right every time"
What a claim!
And you say I am being silly?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/20/06


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Alan, Dont get silly now. I am not infallible anymore than you are. Now I did say that my literal interpretation was right and I guess you didnt notice, my interpretation was an EXACT quote from the scripture. A word for word quote... so am I wrong? I confidently felt I was right because... what I said is exactly what God said. I didnt change words or add or subtract. Now if it conflicts with what you believe, dont get mad at me, take it up with God, he wrote the book.
---tofurabby on 9/19/06


Tofurabby ... The #1 of my response to you seems to have got lost in transmission, so here goes again:
You say to me "You are telling the Mod he is wrong for giving a nonliteral interpretation because your nonliteral interpretation is right"
May I refer you to what I actually said to the Mod? It was "No, I think ... "
I believe most people would take that as being a statement of what I thought, rather than an assertion that the other person was wrong
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/16/06


Tofurabby ... # 5 My idea seemd so possible, that Jesus went up the mountain, and Satan came & showed him all the wlole surrounding visible land, and said "You can have all that, and the rest ... everything on the whole globe you can have, if only .. "
But sadly I totally off beam. Please help me to understand, Thanks
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/15/06


Tofurabby ... # 4 Again, there were at that time, empires, with rulers, in South American countries like Peru. According to my globe, Peru is the other side of the earth from where Jesus was. You say that Jesus would have been able to see half the globe from the high mountain, but I don't understand how his physical view could have extended to the other side of the globe. Was the world flattened for that moment, do you think?
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/15/06


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Tofurabby ... # 3 There was an Empire based in Rome, and Rome is the other side of the mountain range that runs down the middle of Italy. That range is higher than the highest mountain in Palestine or around. I'm puzzled how Jesus saw with His physical eye, that City
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/15/06


Tofurabby ... # 2 But I will, since you say "I will be right every time", accept that you are infallible like the Pope (except that we know he is not infallible)
But since you are infallible, and I am ignorant, please help me with this which I find a little difficult to understand.<
---alan8869_of_UK on 9/15/06


Tofurabby, How does a vision defeat the purpose? Why couldnt Christ be tempted in a vision. Satans world is a spiritual world that carrys over into Physical symptoms and things in the natural. We dont wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

We just need to interpret what the exceeding high mountain is, and what spiritually is the pinnacle of the temple, etc, etc.
---Billy on 9/15/06


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