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Adam Or Eve Caused The Fall

Who was most responsible for the "fall" Adam or Eve?

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To Tommy3007-obviously Adam always had the capacity to sin my disobeying God. It was Adam who received the message about not to eat of the tree. And certainly he passed it along to his mate Eve. Let's have some pity on Adam, remember there was only one who could be his soulmate( talk, companionship, sex, and general partner). Being born a free moral agent the capacity to sin was there, it is this free will or free moral agency we give up when we accept the gift of salvation today. Adam sure made a mess and we as a fallen race of people have been messing up ever since, but praise the Lord, God has provided a way through his son for our redemption.
---mima on 7/4/09

I would say,
'Well, you know about Adam. You also know about Cain and Abel, right? Let me give you a bit on Abel from our Lord Jesus, in Matthew 23:35 he says, "from the blood of righteous Abel".' Here I would ask, "You do know what righteousness is right?" Then I would add, 'Well Abel died a righteous man, do you think he is in hell?' I could close with this, 1 John 2:29: "If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him." Man was left with hardship, yet with hope and faith that if applied in righteousness attain to everlasting life, the last thing Adam could not attain in the garden.'
---Nana on 7/4/09

People who love evil go to Hell by their own steam, not because of Adam, or the devil making them do it. God knows what we will do before we do it. God makes us the way we are and if he wants he can stop us doing things. Some people are made evil so that they can serve the devil and go to Hell, others are made good so that God can have them in his Kingdom when they put their trust in Jesus. Those who don't know Jesus are judged by their works. The question is about the history of mankind. God's plan for the world.
---frances008 on 7/3/09

I had an inmate at the prison where I do volunteer chapel services ask me last Sunday, "Why did God make Adam so weak as to give into sin and cause many people to go to hell by doing so?" What would any of you have responded to this man? I'm curious.
---tommy3007 on 7/2/09

Nicoa, Adam and Eve were not like us. They did not have a fallen nature before they sinned. There was no desire for them to sin. All humans after the fall have a desire to sin, they have a fallen nature which is sinful. They are in need of a Savior. Adam and Eve were in no need of a Savior for they were perfect. They were not separated from God until after the fall.
---MarkV. on 6/30/09

Both of them were responsible. First Eve. Nobody forced Adam to taste the fruit.
---Betty on 6/29/09

The devil is the one behind the fall of man. We must remember that the enemy is far older, and craftier than we could ever become ourselves. Everyone is a victim of the devil. When we keep this in mind it is easier to forgive and love one another.

Yes Eve was deceived by the devil and she in turn helped Adam sin against God. They are not completely innocent, but they are not the true source of the blame. They like us were just human, and were deceived by a rouge angel. No one can say for a fact that they would not have done the same thing. In fact everyone falls victims to his lies to this very day.
---Nicoa5775 on 6/27/09

Both Adam and Eve had an equal share in the "fall". Eve was tempted by Satan (serpent), but could have resisted. Adam was tempted by Eve, but could have resisted. Neither one did resist, so both are responsible.
---Leslie on 6/27/09

Both were responsible but because life begins with the male Adam polluted mankind.
Eve was deceived not Adam. She was designed to be a helper and not a leader over Adam and Lucifer knew exactly what he was doing in approaching her first. For women have not position but influence. Had not Adam not sinned Eve would have been escorted out of the garden and replaced with another helper or men would lead sinless lives and live forever while women would become fungible temporary helpers in need of God's redemption or incapable of obtaining salvation.
I'm taking license with the scenario but God is sovereign and doesn't owe women anything including an answer for treating them differently.
---larry on 6/25/09

And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ
Here is the patience of the saints, here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus
Rev. 14:12
Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
---Trashon on 6/24/09

People, I am sorry, but reading this makes me think that not one of you understands the Bible on this matter. As I remember, Eve accepted of the fruit with the promise of being like God, and therefore better than Adam, if she partook. Then, she reminded Adam the she was given to him as his wife and was going to be thrown out of the garden because of it. As such he had been given the responsibility, by God, to take care of her and protect her. The only way he could have done that under the circumstances then existing was by also eating of the fruit. This he admitted having done and added his reason for having done so, that is not blaming but stating a fact. The real sin was that Eve became the head of Adam, as most women do today, lead the man.
---Joe on 6/24/09

The Bible clearly states that Adam was the one who sinned. The commandment was given to Adam, not to Eve. To blame Eve, who was "decieved" is wrong. In response to the woman preaching in the church, Paul said "I would that a woman not teach." That was Paul's opinion, not a commandment made by God nor by Jesus.
---Trashon on 6/23/09
The 10 commandments were not given to US personally. Does that mean we should not be blamed if we don't follow them since we were not the original recipient?
---obewan on 6/24/09

there are several places in scripture which one man sin came into the world,and by one man it is defeated.I believe in hebrews,is one place.You must understand that men are responsible to God if they knowingly make decisions that cause their wives to sin.Yes eve was deceived,but aren,t we all?she should have known better,but from what I read,adam was held responsible,and eve also for not obeying.
---tom2 on 6/24/09

you must understand that eve sinned,if she didn,t then only adam would have been driven from the garden,and men would still be alone today.So really to look for blame is just another example of how we as human beings just love to point our fingers at others when looking for those responsible,with fingers always pointed out towards someone else instead of just accepting the fact that we just might be the one.
---tom2 on 6/24/09

disobidience by both adam and eve caused the fall,but just as today men are responsible to answer to God if their decisions allow or cause their wives to sin against God,and women are to tell their husbands when they believe this is happening.
---tom2 on 6/24/09

Joh 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

Wouldnt this be Satan? But, what do I know, I have problem untying my own shoes.
God Bless
---TheSeg on 6/23/09

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My answer to this question would have to be "YES". If you remember, God declared that Adam and Eve were ONE, not 2 separate persons. Adam is the head of the house, responsible for the Spiritual teaching in the home. He apparently failed in his job and we all suffer the results of Eve being deceived. I don't know who this Dr. Rich is, but, he obviously hasn't read the letters of Peter where Peter declared Paul's writings to be equal to Scripture. Was Peter following a false spirit also?
---tommy3007 on 6/23/09

The Bible clearly states that Adam was the one who sinned. The commandment was given to Adam, not to Eve. To blame Eve, who was "decieved" is wrong. In response to the woman preaching in the church, Paul said "I would that a woman not teach." That was Paul's opinion, not a commandment made by God nor by Jesus.
---Trashon on 6/23/09

Adam was made our representative. Why? Only God knows. Was God wrong? No. His choice of Adam was perfect for what God had purpose in His plan. Adam was created innocent but fell into sin by disobedience, bringing physical, spiritual and eternal death upon mankind (Gen. 2:17- 3:24). God's plan of redemption centers in Christ, the last Adam", who delievers fallen humanity from three-fold death and bestows upon believers threefold life-physical, spiritual, and eternal (John 3:16, 1 Cor. 15:45, Rom. 5:17). Eve was the first to sin, but Eve was deceived, Adam was not deceived. He ate of the fruit that Eve gave him with eyes wide open.
---MarkV. on 6/23/09

The woman sinned first by eating of the tree. However it is because she added to the commandment. She said, "Of the fruit of the trees of the garden we may eat. 3. But of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, God said, "You shall not eat of it, and you shall not touch it, lest you die.'" Adam is commanded not to eat of the tree. It is believed that Adam added to the commandment "and you shall not touch it" when he told her G-d's words, thus causing her confusion with the serpent. Therefore, depending on who added to the commmandment, man or woman, is more guilty. I believe Adam is given blame for the addition.
---Tony_P on 6/23/09

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While it doesn't remove the guilty persons accountability, the man takes responsibility for what occurs in his own house. Adam is said to be the "federal head" because he represents his wife, and his descendants, Romans 5:12-21, 1Corinthians 15:21-22.
They disobeyed the Lord by violating Genesis 2:16-17. He disobeyed God, in Genesis 3:17, by obeying and subordinating himself to his wife. A few believe that he violated Genesis 2:15 by not guarding the garden. Genesis 3:16 demonstrates Gods disapproval of Eve's insubordination as she attempted to supplant both God and her husband in 3:1-6. She sinned by offering the fruit to her husband. Some say that she sinned by speaking to the serpent.
---Glenn on 5/19/09

1st Tim. 2 v 14. She partakes of the forbidden fruit & then passes it to Adam. He was just as guilty. The first curse went to Eve,in the bearing of children. Then Adam was to toil by the sweat of his brow. Just think,if Eve had not done what she done, we'd All be living a good life.
---Lawrence on 5/18/09

Jesus did not side with the Pharisees in Matthew 22:22-46. They tried to test Him with, "Which is the great commandment in the law" Jesus answered, "Love the Lord thy God with all your heart with all your soul, and with all your mind," the second, you shall love your neighbor as yourself" Then Jesus ask them, "What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?" their answer was, "He was the Son of David," and Jesus answered, "How then does David in the Spirit call Him Lord, Saying "The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at My right hand?" and they were not able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore"
---MarkV. on 5/18/09

paul was chosen by jesus to take the gospel message to the gentiles.Also like paul we as human beings are all sinners.we all fall short and are not worthy.To put paul into the same class as satan is not only wrong its non scriptural.Paul was just as able to receive forgivness as you.and me.
---tom2 on 5/17/09

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both were equally responsible,that is why both were expelled.Its funny how people look to lay more blame on someone else isn,t it?
---tom2 on 5/14/09

I have been told that Eve was alone and was out of Adam's protection which is why she was decieved. But the Bible clearly says, "she gave the fruit to her husband who was WITH HER, and he ate." which tells us that Adam stood by and watched the deception- he was with her. Adam sinned by willing disobiedience, and then tried to blame Eve and God for giving her to him. Eve sinned by responding to the serpents deciet. "Adam was not decieved, but the woman being decieved fell into transgresstion." Both sinned- and sin is sin in God's eyes. We know that Adam is given responsibility for original sin and death- ("nevertheless death reigns from Adam") but it doesn't make Eve any less guilty.
---jaime on 5/14/09

Truth be told, the Pharisees were not wrong in all their doctrines and practices. On this regard our Lord sided with their understanding in Matthew 22:23_34. 1st_cliff, you are one step away from joining Dr.Rich in his view of Paul. Now, just like I said about the Pharisees above, Dr.Rich had some other excellent doctrinal points like, "Jesus taught sanctification, not 'justification'. Jesus taught born again, not being adopted. Jesus taught you have to be in the Kingdom of Heaven, not a personal relationship. Please, take the time to do your own study! This is serious stuff!"
I remember the fellow Dr.Rich for his strongh opposition to anything Pauline, see "Adam Or Eve Caused The Fall" blog.
---Nana on 2/28/09

Dr. Rich,

You remind me of King Jehudi (OT).

Back to the Blog Question:
1cor 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Again, my answer is Adam.
---trey on 10/2/07

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dr rich are you the crazy guy that thinks Paul is the anti-christ?
R U really a dr (of what)
---Andrea on 10/2/07

RitaH::If you will read the whole verse of Gen3:16 you will understand it is a prophecy of Almighty God She would be subject to Him.I believe that transalated means in a relationship Man will have the final decision so He is to be more astute,and be forced to accept all responsibility."Not Lord it and be opressive"
---Emcee on 10/2/07

Im not so sure that this is a 'who's to blame' debate. Many denominations, cultures and other religions keep women in subservience to men purely because they have been taught that this is woman's punishment for bringing sin into the world, even though the bible clearly states that one man (the male of the species) brought sin into the world. Women have suffered ever since because the first man did not correct his wife or pass on to her the command that he had been given.
---RitaH on 10/2/07

---And since when does God FORCE anyone EVIL to become His servant? If He did that to Saul, then why not Lucifer? Do your own study and read "The Spirit of the Church" now out in book stores. Jesus taught sanctification, not 'justification'. Jesus taught born again, not being adopted. Jesus taught you have to be in the Kingdom of Heaven, not a personal relationship. Please, take the time to do your own study! This is serious stuff! (Rev.21:8 & 22:15)
---Dr._Rich on 10/2/07

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Helen:: you are doing the same thing too Passing the buck.Eve was disobedient too From the statement she made to satan Gen3,3or else why did God punish her as well verse16
---Emcee on 10/2/07

Rita is correct, and yes, I am serious! Did Jesus tell those around him to forget about the law/coventant because no one could keep it anyway? And, did He tell them that He was going to die for their sins, that no one can keep from sinning and that His blood would cover up their sins so His Father could not see them--
---Dr._Rich on 10/2/07

---And did He tell them that His grace was sufficent and that in their weekness He was strong? Did He tell them that God will give you a demon to keep you humble? Did He also tell them that His suffering would not be complete for salvation, and that Saul/Paul would have to finish the job? (2nd Cor. 12:7-9, Col. 1:24) Did He invent the word "Church" and "Christian"? Did He say that all of Israel would be saved? Did He say that the spirit is good and the flesh is evil?
---Dr._Rich on 10/2/07

Adam was responsible for the Fall because he sinned with his eyes open wide, whereas Eve was deceived by the serpent. Adam's sin was outright disobedience to God.
---Helen_5378 on 10/2/07

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This is one of those frivolous "who to blame" debates. It doesn't matter, it's done. It happened 6,000 years ago. Unless you are a holder of grudges, you probably don't remember who you blamed for something that went wrong a year ago. So why bother waste your energy about what happened 6,000 years ago. What's the purpose? The Bible is our foundation to build godly lives today, not what happened the millions of years ago.
---Steveng on 10/1/07

Dr. Rich,

Are you serious? If we throw out Paul's writings we are tossing out half of the new testament.

I hope you were kidding when you wrote that.
---trey on 10/1/07

i think sin passes thru the father gene's. if adam refused to eat, eve would still die but mankind would not all be fallen. their children would be sinless. this is why a fallen mary can have a sinless son. sin is passed thru the father. as far as the story goes both where responsable for thier own fall, thats the whole point, not to pass blame.
---Kraus on 10/1/07

Eloy, Emcee is correct. How far away would you like to think that Adam was? "she also gave some to her husband WHO WAS WITH HER and he ate". If he also ate, he wasn't all that far away was he? What is the point in trying to say he was far away anyway? If he were far enough away for the fruit to have turned brown by the time he got it - HE STILL ATE IT, having been told not to do so.
---RitaH on 10/1/07

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Ok, by reading the answers to this blog you can clearly see that Paul was fooled and was following the false spirit. Don't use Paul's writings and you should be ok with answering this type of question. Adam's sin and not Eve's, because God only gave this instruction to Adam. Jesus died the 2nd death for Adam or you and I would not be here.
---Dr._Rich on 10/1/07

Eloy :: You are shilly shallying the bible says "He was there"so he was not AT WORK. naked"what work watering the plants or feeding the animals?????what is your problem with this denial of the truth.Isit a gender thing?
---Emcee on 10/1/07

Gordon, speculate no more. It DOES say that God told Adam before He created Eve. In Genesis 2 verse 15 we read that God put 'the man' in the garden. Verse 17 He gives the commandment not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Verse 18 He says that it is not good for man to be alone and proceeds to create Eve. There we have it, He told Adam before Eve was created.
---RitaH on 10/1/07

Well, both were really. Eve played her part in it. She was the first to sin. But, Adam followed suit. Actually I would say that Adam has the greater guilt as it's possible that the LORD warned him against eating from the "tree" first before GOD created Eve. Just speculation there, though. They both sinned and both were chastened.
---Gordon on 10/1/07

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1tim 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

I would have to say Adam, but who can blame him? Eve was the only girl around.
---trey on 9/30/07

.emcee, your belief is not Biblical. The woman whom gave the disobedience to her husband "with" her does not mean that he was physically standing next to her at the time she sinned, but that she was "married" to her husband, as a husband can physically be away from his wife at wotk, but still he is regarded as being with a wife and not being a single man. Also the transgression was even more tragic because they were the only two humans, the only existing couple in the whole world.
---Eloy on 9/30/07

Eloy :: So your contention is Adam did not accept the blame his words "The woman whom you gave to be with me she gave me fruit from the tree and I ate."Gen3:12,Gen3,6 "she also gave some to her husband WHO WAS WITH HERand he ate"The order was given to AdamGen2:16 before the creation of EVE.I believe that is what make Adam more responsible as he had the authority not Eve.So to cover his Butt as we say he blames EVE
---Emcee on 9/30/07

ELOY, you will believe what you want to believe!!!
---RitaH on 9/30/07

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Both of them were responsible for the fall. And it may not sound fair that they had the chance to keep things going good and they blew it, but they just acted as our representatives when they took the forbidden fruit. You would've done the same thing. They were given free will and chose the wrong thing.
---Houston on 9/29/07

.emcee, Adam spoke the truth, but you will believe whatever you desire.
---Eloy on 9/30/07

Eloy:: You often say I canot accept your false testemony being born again.Well read Genesis3,6 Adam was Jhonny on the spot,even God said so: being born again does not prove a thing.Its the now & hereafter that counts.He was not man enough to accept the blame.
---Emcee on 9/29/07

The word sin is found hundreds of times in the Bible in both Old and New Testament. It's first mention is in Genesis 6:7, where it is said to have been lurking at the door of the world's first Murderer, Cain. The final mention is in Revelation 18-5, where it brings down the full wrath of an angry God upon the political and economic systems of this entire world. What is the deadly and damnable thing that is so hated by God and so harmful to man? Cont. please.
---catherine on 9/29/07

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Page Adam>>The very word carries with it the hissing sound of a vicious viper. The word is SIN.>>>And she shall bring forth a Son, and thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins. [Mt. 1:20,21].>>>The basic reason for the incarnation of God's Son was to deal with this terrible thing called SIN. >>>Adam was responsible [fully], is the answer you are looking for. Have a pleasant weekend everyone.+++
---catherine on 9/29/07

Linda:: I dont know about Joyce Myers But Ibelieve The term "weaker vessel "evolved from that incident.True Eve succomed first to satans wiles but Adam was standing there & should have stopped it.Gen3:6, he had the greater authority & should have guided the Woman as a good Husband should.This made it his sinGen3 :17.
---Emcee on 9/29/07

.rita, the Bible commonly refers to "woman" as "man", meaning "mankind" showing the difference between God the Creator and man the created (that is, ALL flesh), so man in scripture many times means "human" or both genders, and not only the male. The Bible is very clear: Woman sinned 1st, then refused to repent but secondly talked her husband into sinning with her against God, and thereby the whole human race (woman, man and children) are fallen into sin
---Eloy on 9/29/07

.rita, Thus from lit.Gk: "Because of this, as through one human that sin into the world entered, and through which sin the death, and so on all humans the death passed, since which all failed." Romans 5:12
---Eloy on 9/29/07

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Linda, who is joyce meyers? is she another rebellious woman among many whom disobeys the New Testament Scripture to not lead but to keep silent in the church?
---Eloy on 9/29/07

Emcee...and that still goes on even today and most men don't even realize how "Adamic" and "old man" it is...or how "fallen Eve" it is for women to blame the serpent. For example, I will use Joyce Meyer. There are many men here who call her teaching in public "usurping authority over men". However, I don't ever see or hear of Joyce going out before any of her conferences and twisting any man's arm to watch her on TV or show up in the auditorium.
---Linda on 9/29/07

Yet everybody blames her, the woman, as though the men who listen to her have no choice but to do so. I guess just for the sake of those "weak" men, many women have to do without. Yep, buck passing still happens and it still has the same consequences. Those who want to fuss over it, put the blame where it belongs....on the men who show up to listen to her without any arm twisting on her part.
---Linda on 9/29/07

Eloy, the bible also tells us that by one MAN sin came into the world (that man was ADAM). It goes on to say that by one man we will be saved (that man is JESUS). Eve is not mentioned here and that is probably because God gave His order to not eat that particular fruit to ADAM before he had created EVE. Neither were blameless but the bible shows us who God says it was who brought sin into the world. You can't change that.
---RitaH on 9/29/07

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Emcee, you mean playing the "blame game" Amen? God bless Emcee!
---Cynthia on 9/28/07

Adams sin was greater because he had the authority did not correct or stop the woman Eve so he was more to blame & he tried to pass his guilt on to the woman making God more angry---like passing the buck.
---Emcee on 9/28/07

The Holy Bible reads that the woman was in the trangression and not the man. The woman disobeyed and ate of the fruit first of which she was commanded not to eat, and then she did not repent from her sin but instead she magnified her sin by proceding to tempt her husband into sinning along with her against God.
---Eloy on 9/28/07

Actually, it was Adam, although the serpent approached Adam through Eve. 1 Peter chapter 3:7, tells us about the woman being the weaker vessel and satan knew this. Adam upon partaking of the forbidden fruit of the tree of good and evil, offered to him through Eve, would now discover what the evil was and what the good would have been, if only he had been obedient to God.
---Cynthia on 9/27/07

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Since scripture says "through one man sin came," and that Jesus was the "second Adam" (not the second Eve), I would say Adam.
---daphn8897 on 9/27/07

Mikefl I think you are misunderstanding Genesis. Gen. 1:27 indeed says what you quote and tells us which day He made male and female. In chapter 2 we are then given further information which shows us JUST HOW He did these things. Firstly He make Adam and then, from one of Adam's ribs, Eve. It was the same event, on the same day. We are just being given further details.
---M.P. on 4/5/06

Please note Gen. 1:27,"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them". This was long before God used the "rib" from Adam to create a body for Eve's spirit to enhabit. Note also Ch.2:24,"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh". Who was Adam's "father & mother", GOD. Who was Adam one flesh with? EVE. How wonderous is God's word...
---mikefl on 4/4/06

'Both were there when God first gave the order not to partake.' Mikefl, this is not what my bible says unless you are referring to the time when Eve was still Adam's rib. I'm not sure that we are meant to read into the bible passages such obscure messages. Until God removed the rib and created Eve from it, Eve did not exist. God spoke to Adam about the fruit BEFORE removing the rib.
---M.P. on 4/4/06

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It actually was Satan in the form of the serpent that caused the fall. It was then Eve who was seduced and Adam followed her. Yet the "man" was both male and female before God removed Eve from Adam. So, both were equally yoked in responsibility. Both were there when God first gave the order not to partake. Both partook. Both transgressed. Both were removed from Eden. The serpent and Eve were cursed in offspring. The man was cursed in toil. Just an awful thing all around not to listen to God.
---mikefl on 4/3/06

No doubt Eve was first in transgression, but when the Bible talks of the fall or the lost dominion, it was Adam's sin and choice here. He was given dominion and authority before Eve was created. It was his to lose. Eve was the tempter to him, and thus in sin doing that too, but it is important that we see that Adam lost the dominion-sold out, and the second Adam-Christ bought it back. Eve (the woman) symbolizes the church, and it isn't the church that buys salvation.
---Wayne87 on 4/1/06

It was Adam's rib.
---Eloy on 4/1/06

Romans 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of (Adam's transgression,) who is the figure of him that was to come.exzucuh
---Exzucuh on 3/31/06

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Sin began with the woman. She sinned first. 1 Tim. 2;14 says the woman was decieved and not man and it was her that was in transgression. That doesn't mean Adam didn't sin but she was the first trangressor and responsible for the fall.
When the Bible says "by one man" sin entered it is most likely meaning "by one human". This is the same as when God sent "man" out of the garden it meant the human. Female included.
---john on 3/31/06

God told Adam (even before creating Eve) that he could eat of every tree except one. At some point either Adam or God told Eve, because she told the serpent that they were not to eat from that tree. However, as it seems that Adam was with Eve at that time, he could have stopped her from eating, but instead he also ate and then blamed 'the woman that You gave me'. He was irresponsible, disobedient and cowardly. The bible says that 'through one man sin entered the world.
---M.P. on 3/31/06

"By one MAN, sin entered into the world and death by sin...."

On the other hand, they were both together when Eve listened to the serpent. Man, in God's eyes, is male and female: spirit is masculine, soul is feminine, and body is the expression of the union.
---Linda on 3/31/06

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