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Is A Future Pope The Anti-Christ

Is this Pope or a future Pope going to be the Anti-Christ? The former Pope thought the Anti-Christ was President Bush and that Pope stated he wished his health was better.

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The Anti-Christ will come from Syria (Former Assyrian Empire). This can be found in Daniel Chapter 11.
---Darryl on 9/17/15


Sorry Nicole. I should have said something about that to you. I figured that out a long time ago.

But then at over 60 years of age I have been doing this for awhile.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/25/15


Wrong. There was not a ROMAN CATHOLIC church until 1054.---Cluny on 8/23/15

NOW, I UNDERSTAND your thinking.
As I believe the Orthodox left the RCC, you believe the opposite to be TRUE.

To each beliefs.

PEACE
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/25/15


\\There was only ONE Christian Church until 1054. The RCC.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/24/15\\

Wrong. It was the Orthodox.

Before 1054 there were 5 patriachs.

After 1054 there were 4 patriarchs on one side and only one on the other. This one had the fewest number of Christians, but the most number of pagans in its territory.

You tell me who left whom?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/25/15


St. Jerome was asked to do so by Pope Damascus, who at that time was still in the Orthodox Church.---Cluny on 8/23/15

Sorry, but Pope Damascus was a Catholic Pope from Peter who ordered the Cannon books of the Bible.

Why don't you claim all 12 Apostles as being Orthodox since they were from East as well?

There was only ONE Christian Church until 1054. The RCC.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/24/15




\\There wasn't an Orthodox Church until 1054.\\

Wrong. There was not a ROMAN CATHOLIC church until 1054.

\\Are you claiming that Jerome was Orthodox and not Catholic?\\

No. I'm saying it outright. You don't think he WAS Catholic, do you?

\\He translated the Bible into Latin instead of Greek, why?\\

Because all that existed for Latin scripture before him were liturgical fragments and lectionaries known collectively as the Vetus Italica.

The Tridentine Mass still shows traces of this, such as in the Lord's Prayer.

St. Jerome was asked to do so by Pope Damascus, who at that time was still in the Orthodox Church.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/23/15


Cluny, you are dodging the point.

All the Apostles were in the EAST.

Just as the Apostles WALKED to Spain and other Western area so did the Desert Monks.
They lived in the Desert at one point of the lives. But it doesn't mean they were born and died in the desert.


There wasn't an Orthodox Church until 1054.

Are you claiming that Jerome was Orthodox and not Catholic?
He translated the Bible into Latin instead of Greek, why?

Because Latin was the Church's Language.

The seat of Peter was in Rome and all the desert Monks only had one Pope.

No Orthodox Religion.

If you were Christian you were Catholic.

Different Rites, but still Catholic with Peter as the First.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/22/15


\\Cluny, are suggesting there were no LATIN RITES desert MONKS?\\

You don't think there were, do you?

Where were deserts in the West?

But did you know that at one time there was a LATIN house (Morphonou) on Mt. Athos? It commemorated the Ecumenical Patriarch, as well as the other sovereign monasteries there.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/22/15


Samuel: My son has been telling me about the works of some desert monks that he has been reading.

They were Orthodox. Did you know that?---Cluny on 8/20/15

Cluny, are suggesting there were no LATIN RITES desert MONKS?

I grant you that the Desert Monks were MOSTLY from the East, but so were all the Apostles.

Also, they were all united under PETER.
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/21/15


The were preschism. So I did not think either one. Just Christian.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/21/15




\\My son has been telling me about the works of some desert monks that he has been reading. Lots of good Christian theology to be found there.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/17/15\\

They were Orthodox. Did you know that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/20/15


You are welcome and correct.

I once had to explain to a Pentecostal that Roman Catholic Christians are Christians.

My son has been telling me about the works of some desert monks that he has been reading. Lots of good Christian theology to be found there.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/17/15


Thank you Samuel for recognizing such lies about the Pope and the RCC.
As I am sure on your Church as well.

Thanks
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/16/15


Yes Nicole your correct.

I am sorry to say many lies are made up about Pope's and the RCC. We should check our sources. Since many lies are spread on the internet.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/16/15


No, no pope, past, present, or future, is the Antichrist.

St. John says the spirit of Antichrist is to deny that Jesus came in the flesh. Whatever the popes may have done, this is not among them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/12/15


I read & then lost it, I typed in, pope Francis goes public with support of the rfid chip implant, & found it. ---Lawrence on 8/8/15

No, you found what some else states Pope Francis support the rfid chip implant and THEY LIED.

And you are spreading the LIE which is called RUMOR!

Go to the OFFICIAL Vatican website and document the DOGMA about rfid chip.

I will save you time, because Pope Francis NEVER mention the subject.

Also neither Pope Francis, Pope Benedict XV1, or Pope John Paul II called President Bush the Anti-Christ
---Nicole_Lacey on 8/11/15


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I read & then lost it, I typed in, pope Francis goes public with support of the rfid chip implant, & found it.

Rev.17 vs 4 5 6 the trinity's head man with More ABOMINATIONS, Mat.7 v 13. Saying the mark of the beast is no spiritual harm, not satanic, that it is from God.
Such Deceiving Lies from the devil trinity's author founder. Being All part of the literal gates of hell, & shall not prevail against The Acts Church of The Living God. Mat.7 v 14.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 8/8/15


I was told that the next pope will really be a tyrant, that's like being a dictator & prob will usher in what's more to come.
---Lawrence on 7/7/10


There have been five popes named Sixtus. The next will have to be Sixtus the Sixth. That works well for English-speaking conspiracy theorists. Go for it!
---amicusdei on 4/14/08


False Prophet?
More than Likely!

The AntiChrist?
NO!
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/14/08


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NO, he will not be.
---eliza4969 on 4/13/08


The Lord Say'eth "For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy, for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.
---twilight on 8/21/07


No. The Future Pope will not be the Anti-Christ, however he will unite with the Anti-Christ as would the whole world when the Anti-Christ enters into his reign(One World Order).
---Marcia on 8/16/07


Jerry, would this be the same Reformers who are largely ignored by modern Protestants due to their many errors.

Most of the time, Protestants revere the idea of the Reformation, but many today distance themselves from the actual Reformers and their doctrines. Which is why we have so many non-denominational Christians falling under the categories of Fundamentalists and Evangelicals.
---lorra8574 on 8/16/07


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Twilight in rereading the post I see that I did not answer your last question. So let me be plain. I do not believe that there are any holy people on earth today, are in the past. I believe what the Scripture says in revelations 15:4,"Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for THOU ONLY ARE HOLY :!!!
---Mima on 8/16/07


Saint Faustina, 1936. As I was praying for Poland, I heared the words: I bear a special love for Poland, and if she will be obedient to My will, I will exalt her in might and holiness. From her will come forth the spark that will prepare the world for My final coming. The spark, Pope John Paul II "Be Not Afraid"
---twilight on 8/16/07


Twilight: In order to judge who is holy and who is not, one must be able to see beyond outer appearances and read the motives of another's heart. Only God can do this. Am I right in assuming that you are not God?
---jerry6593 on 6/24/07


Umm, so what you trying to get at? Are you trying to say there is no such thing as holy people ... the bible is filled with holy people, Moses, Job and the rest. Billy Graham is holy, Martin Luther King is holy and Pope John Paul II to name a few. Revelation 15:4 says God is holy because thats what God stands for (Holiness) and so too the prophets of the bible, they stand for holiness and are holy people.
---Twilight on 6/1/07


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Twilight do you believe the last pope was God on earth? Consider Revelation 15:4,"Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for THOU ONLY ARE HOLY : for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest." Does this verse speak of John Paul II or of the Lord Jesus Christ?
---Mima on 6/1/07


That is not so what jerry said about the institution of the papacy, that it is anti-christ. When Pope John Paul II died many of the main protestant religious spoke very very highly of him. And leaders from all around the world came to pay their respect. He was a Great Pope and a very very holy man.
---Twilight on 6/1/07


Alan: Sorry I'm a year late. I just saw your post. The 3 kingdoms "uprooted" to make room for the papacy were the Heruli, the Ostrogoths and the Vandals.
---jerry6593 on 6/1/07


It is not the pope, but rather the institution of the papacy that is antichrist. Any current pope is the current antichrist. This is essentially the same belief held by most of the great protestant reformers.
---jerry6593 on 6/1/07


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It is possible that Islam could become the new Beast, but it is too soon to tell. But I am thinking that the new Beast will be a political entity rather than a religious one. The original Beast was the Emperor in Rome (Babylon) and his mark was the tattoos that all slaves had to wear in order to walk in public and carry out business for their masters.
---lorra8574 on 5/31/07


I believe that too what jack says, that anti-christ will come from Islam. He will come as a person of peace and have all the answers to the worlds problems. He will show great signs to decieve the people and many will believe, they will think he is Christ.I believe the current pope will agree with whatever this antichrist teaches, his name is Maitreya.
---Twilight on 5/31/07


The pope very well maybe the Atnti-christ(type & shadow),or he could be the beast,which will anounce when the mark of the beast will be absolutely manditory.
---Lawrence on 5/31/07


The Apostle John says that denial that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is the spirit of Antichrist.

Whatever sins, faults, or mistakes the popes have, they have never denied this teaching.

It's much more likely that the personal Antichrist will arise from Islam.
---Jack on 5/31/07


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Yes I believe this German Pope will be the anti pope, and no, Pope John Paul II never did say President Bush was the anti-christ. Old and new prophecy say's this current pope is an anti-pope, very very few believe it. During the election of the pope in 2005 black smoke came out of the chimmney twice then finally white.
---Twilight on 5/31/07


Helen, Amen. 2 Thess 2:3-4

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

It can only be the Catholic Church or some nut will actually succeed in rebuilding the Temple at Jerusalem.
---lorra8574 on 5/21/07


I believe that the Antichrist and/or the False Prophet will come out of the RCC.
---Helen_5378 on 5/21/07


MikeM, you never know until the Man of Lawlessness is revealed. I have Father Malachi Martin's book. I do not know that he had it all right or all wrong, more likely somewhere in the middle. In case the prophecy was off by a pope, watch for a pope that lifts rules that were thought to be immutable by previous popes. If the next pope lifts the ban on birth control and abortion and allows for women priests and openly gay clergy and gay marriage, run for the hills and pray with all of your might.
---lorra8574 on 5/20/07


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I stand corrected
---MikeM on 5/19/07


MikeM, this would be some Catholics. This stems from prophecies that may or may not be true. But the particular prophecies have NOT been authenticated by the Catholic Church, nor have the sources, which are people not scriptures. The dark Pope was supposed to be the next pope after JPII, but it does not appear that Pope Benedict XVI will be the anti-Pope - he does not match the rest of the prophecy.
---lorra8574 on 5/19/07


MikeM P2: But I will stick with the Bible, Jesus stated that the Church would prevail against the gates of Hell, so while the man of lawlessness may seek to enter and deceive, he will not be Pope (from the Catholic view of scriptures).
---lorra8574 on 5/19/07


Again, no. 666 is nothing more than one short of the glory (777) in spirit, soul, and body. When Adam fell, he fell short of the glory of God (Christ) in nature, mind, and expression. When Revelation talks about 666 being the number of "a man", he is talking about Adam, the man the very antichrist spirit flows out of. In the eyes of God, man is either in Adam or in Christ. What flows out of Adam is antichrist. What flows out of Christ is not.
---Linda on 5/19/07


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Alan (not me!) has not answered John T's question of 5/15, nor has Jerry answered mine of 4/26.
I wonder why?
---alan8869_of_UK on 6/29/06


Here we must separate what some catholics see as devotional religion from the revealed religion of Christ. The Church in her Magisterium speaks for God on earth. She is his instrument. The idea that the Pope will be or is the AntiChrist if of Luther. Some prophecies attributed to this person or that claim certain things, like the "three days of darkness." There is no certainty at all in such private nonsense.
---Hoss on 6/29/06


5/18/03Catholic New Times
It is a HACK JOB: "According to freelancer Wayne Madsden, (no one else cited) "GWB's blood lust, [inflamatory!]...in the eyes of [unspecified]many devout [adds credibility] Catholic leaders, bear marks of...the anti-Christ." Madsen...says that [unspecified] people close to the pope claim...the pontiff wishes [NEVER PROPERLY ATTRIBUTED] he was younger... possibility that Bush blah blah blah
Mod: sorry, but doesn't cut it!

Moderator - I agree you need to stick to the Bible.
---John_T on 5/14/06


Even catholics, many of them say the next Pope will be the 'dark pope'- the last Pope, Peter of Rome. Father Malichi Martin.
---MikeM on 5/14/06


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Alan:
You say on the Q, "The former Pope thought the Anti-Christ was President Bush and that Pope stated he wished his health was better."

What is the antecedent of the pronoun "him"?

Unless you can come up with an EXACT quote that gives date and place Pope John Paul said that, your statement is balderdash, not much more than an urban legend.

Pending verification, I restrain judgment.

Moderator - Google the information and go to Catholic websites which have posted the statement.
---John_T on 5/13/06


BRAVO, CLIFF! Well put!

Why the Christians love to play Pin the Tail on the Beast and listen to gloom, doom, and rumors of boom puzzles me, too.
---Jack on 5/13/06


What is strange is the curiosity apparent in determining who,when & where is the Anti christ. When will he surface? IMHO "Seek first the kingdom of God & his MERCY" People who seek trouble usually find it to their detriment. God will reveal to us all things in his own Time & according to his judgement.
---CliffPlettell on 4/26/06


Jerry, your blog was very interesting. Just to pick up on one point, you say "The Papal System ruled over the remaining 7 European Kingdoms from AD 538 until AD 1798 - exactly 1260 years - in fulfillment of prophecy"
Can you tell us which these 7 European kingdoms were, and exactly which prophecy mentions them?
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/26/06


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Alan (2): The Papal System ruled over the remaining 7 European Kingdoms from AD 538 until AD 1798 - exactly 1260 years - in fulfillment of prophecy. In 1798, Napoleon sent his General Berthier to Rome to take the Pope captive. That was a deadly wound to the Papal System that was not to heal until the granting of the Vatican property by Mousellini. There is much, much more, but not in 85 words.
---jerry6593 on 4/5/06


Alan: Historically, Rome is the fourth world power in the series seen in two visions by Daniel: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. Rome was succeeded by the 10 European Kingdoms (10 horns, 10 toes) of which 3 (the Vandals, Ostrotgoths and Heruli) were destroyed (uprooted) in the ascendency of the Papacy. When the last of these three, the Ostrogoths, was defeated in AD 538, the Papal System began its unopposed rule.
---jerry6593 on 4/5/06


The Revelation of Jesus Christ says, "Here is wisdom: Let he who ***hath understanding*** count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is six-hundred, three score, and six."

Eph.1:17-23
If you have not prayed this prayer and received the understanding that Scripture in Revelation is talking about, don't start counting that number. That Scripture, without a doubt, makes a qualification for counting....must have understanding.
---Linda on 4/4/06


Aren't we taught to pay attention to this number, 666? A number attached to a man, a man of very high political power in Europe. We all need to check this out.
---Nellah on 4/4/06


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Moderator, in what way is he 666? Recommendation 666 gave this man his power. Couldn't that be determined as his number?

Moderator - I have no idea who the Anti-Christ will be. A future Pope "may" be the False Prophet, but nobody knows 100% at this point.
---Nellah on 4/3/06


I'm still stuck on this Javier Solana guy. Recommendation 666 of the European Union constitution appoints him to a very powerful position in Europe. Out of 1100 numbers this man ends up with 666 ... coincidence or what? Please read about this man and tell me what you think.

Moderator - In what way is he 666?
---Nellah on 4/2/06


Rebecca "Alan; no one knows who the Anti-Christ is" ... I quite agree with you. What is so surprising (or perhaps it is not) is that there are those here who make damning statements (such as the Pope saying GWB was antiChrist ... and it occurs on other blogs also) who seem unwilling when challenged to back up the claim.
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/1/06


Mima .. Rebecca on this issue makes much more sense than you.
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/1/06


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Jerry ... please explain how "He arises after Rome and destroys 3 kingdoms in the process" fits in with Dan 7:24. Where is Rome mentioned? And the other things you mention ... please specifically explain how each matches the Pope or the RCC.
---alan_of_UK on 4/1/06


TO--alan UK: Well a false apostle will necessarily head up a worldwide religion, and of course I believe is the Catholic Church. The Antichrist himself will be a man of war if you will, great soldier great leader. And it's the false prophet that demands the Antichrist be worshiped and that people take his mark and for those reasons I think a future pope might fill the bill.
---mima on 4/1/06


I dont think it would be correct to refer to Javier Solana as the anti Christ.I agree the EU is a revival of the roman empire and ll clearly play a role in the rise of the anti-Christ.
---pkay on 4/1/06


Much human speculation but no Bible. Look at the clues. Antichrist also goes by the names "man of sin", "beast", and "little horn." He arises after Rome and destroys 3 kingdoms in the process (Dan 7:24). He blasphemes God, thinks to change times and laws, bears iron rule for 1260 years, suffers a deadly wound that was healed, and all the world wonders after him. (Dan 7:25, Rev 13:3). It is a city which sits on seven hills and reigns over the kings of the earth (Rev 17:9, 18).
---jerry6593 on 4/1/06


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Mima ... what makes yuo think that a pope will be the false prophet?
---alan_of_UK on 4/1/06


Alan; no one knows who the Anti-Christ is. The spirit of the Anti-Christ is here, has been since the garden of Eden. Many though Hilter was the anti-christ, Ozzy Osborne, they were wrong. We don't know who it is or when he/she will come. It may not even be the next Pope. It could be your neighbor.
---Rebecca_D on 3/31/06


Neither this pope or a future pope will be the Antichrist. When the Antichrist comes on the world scene he will be accompanied, admired, and probably receive worship from the one who will be known as the "false prophet" either this pope are a pope to come will be the "false prophet".
---mima on 3/31/06


I believe the next pope will be the false prophet. I think the anti-christ will arise from the world of politics somewhere, maybe Europe Union or Javier Solana.
---Nellah on 3/31/06


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Moderator you say "Go to Catholic sites and find the Pope John Paul statements. (about GWB being antiChrist) I have read them also and believe they were published around 2003"
I have searched the web, and find only that "sources close to the Pope" have said that the Pope thinks GWB exhibits some of the characteristics of an antiChrist. No quote by the Pope. And no doubt GWB does, in the same way that any human being does.
---alan_of_UK on 3/31/06


All mankind in Adam, Alan, all mankind in Adam. Read again what I wrote.
---Linda on 3/31/06


Right on Linda, any one can be anti-christ it is the nature contrary to the mind of Christ.1john2:22He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.1john4:3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus
Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist,exzucuh
---exzucuh on 3/31/06


Ed ... you say examples abonnd ... it would be interesting to see them? Alan ...I am not aware that Pope John Paul thought GWBush was the Anticrhrist ... evidence?
Linda ... you seem to be saying that the AntiChrist is all of manknind? Eliza ... I agree with yuo.

Moderator - Go to Catholic sites and find the Pope John Paul statements. I have read them also and believe they were published around 2003.
---alan_of_UK on 3/31/06


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you really are daft. 777 is the angelic number. it represents those that have made this horrible planet in the first place.
---briannathearchangel on 3/31/06


Ed, I am sure it can be looked at like that. I just simply minister it though the way the Holy Spirit revealed it to me.
---Linda on 3/31/06


To Linda: Just a thought for consideration. The number three is the number of the Trinity of God; the number six is the number of man. Could three sixes, as the number of a man, be man attempting to make himself God. Examples abound.
---Ed on 3/31/06


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