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Lost Respect For A Pastor

I was recently at a seminar and seated beside a pastor I know and admire. He talked the entire time and made comments about a man's weight and how another man reminded him sarcastically of someone he knew. I was so disappointed and remained quiet. Now I find I have lost respect for him. Comments?

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Remember that your friend is a human being, just like you. It could be that he was having a real bad day, you know, preachers have them too.
It may have helped if you were to ask him, "Is there something bothering you today, I've never heard you talking like that?"
---Earl on 3/1/08


If this is indeed true and in the proper context, then you should forgive him but he should NOT be the pastor of any Church.

Luke 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good, and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
---Mr._Graham on 9/9/07


You can lose respect and not be disrespectful and fall into the same trap.
---Linda on 9/9/07


Canna
did you do Matthew 18:15-17 before you brought this concern to this forum?If not then you need too.there is way to much gossip in the church
---willow on 6/25/06


Pastors are to be an example to follow. They should follow the directives in the word of God for their calling. And more so than the rest of us since their lives are under the microscope. But; we should watch how we act as well.
---Shari on 6/24/06




P.J.Croad--You are right. I should have included in my post to go to the pastor and talk to him about it. I didn't think the situation through very well. Hope Cana follows YOUR advice and that of WIVV and Daph8897, not mine.
---Donna2277 on 5/9/06


I feel sorry for those who said to forgive him just like that. If we don't let people know of the pain they are causing others, how can we expect to stop it? And how can anyone who ignores discrimination say they are Christian? Someone once said "when good men [or people] do nothing when bad things happen - that is evil enough". I suggest telling the pastor that you are disappointed and why, reminding him that he is supposed to treat people with kindness.
---PJ_Croad on 5/9/06


I feel sorry for those who said to forgive him just like that. If we don't let people know of the pain they are causing others, how can we expect to stop it? And how can anyone who ignores discrimination say they are Christian? Someone once said "when good men [or people] do nothing when bad things happen - that is evil enough". I suggest telling the pastor that you are disappointed and why, reminding him that he is supposed to treat people with kindness.
---PJ_Croad on 5/9/06


Cana, what this pastor did made you lose total respect for him.

Would what you do and have done make him lose total respect for you?

Matthew 7:12.
---Jack on 5/8/06


Cana--I'd have been very disappointed in him, too. There is no excuse for his behavior. But we tend to hold pastors to a much higher standard than other people. And that's too bad. They may have a gift of preaching and teaching and pastoring and still have many faults. They have to grow spiritually, as we all do, and have tendancies toward pride or insecurity like other men. Forgive him. Lower your expectations. Leave his ministry only after you've forgiven him and if his preaching isn't true to the Word.
---Donna2277 on 4/10/06




WIVV, "You are a prime example of why a pastor can't let, "his hair down" even for a brief moment." From what Cana said, this pastor did far more than that - he belittled another believer, and in front of one of his flock. Don't dump this back on Cana. I see no where in scripture where that is okay - for any believer. If letting ones hair down means being rude or unkind - none of us should EVER feel comfortable or be okay with doing so.
---daphn8897 on 4/6/06


mima: Scriptures say that a pastor or elder is supposed to be above reproach. That is why people become disappointed in their pastors.
---Madison on 4/5/06


You just have to remember that pastors are human too. And like us, they are forgiven; not perfect. You are a prime example of why a pastor can't let, "his hair down" even for a brief moment. Talk with the pastor and tell him your feelings. (Make an appointment and see him.) Be candid, (but be nice). Don't make him guess at what you are saying. Give him a chance to explain himself. (More than likely, he'll just say, "I blew it".)
---WIVV on 4/5/06


If you can walk across a lake and turn water into wine and raise yourself from the dead then you have a right to judge him. Otherwise just pray for him.
---Tim on 4/5/06


Test the spirits to see if they be of God.. There are many wolves in sheeps clothing.. Run for your life...
---Lynn on 4/5/06


Many people disappointed in their pastors. The chief reason for this being that they put too much stock in their pastors, they hold too high an opinion of their pastor.
---mima on 4/5/06


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Cana, this just may be a reality check. He is just as carnel minded as we are.
---Fred_S. on 4/5/06


Cana, Is this man approachable? Can you go to him in an gentle way and tell him what you perceived and how that made you feel? If he responds well, then you've helped him to be a better pastor. If he doesn't, then shake the dust from your sandles...
---daphn8897 on 4/5/06


Everyone has moments of weakness. Only God truly knows his heart. God sees the things that we dont. That pastor may have thought about it after he got home, fell on his face and asked the Lord to forgive him and help him avoid those thoughts. ...or he could have went home and made bad comments about you to someone else.

But we should not care, we belong to God and he will defend us. I would just pray for him and let him see Gods light showing through you.
---chris on 4/5/06


That is so sad that a pastor would do that! I lost respect for my pastor as well. He openly made fun of a family in our church. The couple has 10 children. He poked fun at them all the time. Eventually, they left. He has also made some other unkind remarks against others in our church. I want to leave as well, but my husband wants to stay.
---Lissa on 4/5/06


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