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Did Jesus Suffer In Hell

Why did Jesus suffer in hell for only 3 days? I thought Jesus was supposed to replace us to bear God's punishment. Since God's punishment is eternal damnation, why Jesus' 3-day stay in hell is worth equal to our eternal punishment? How is that fair?

Moderator - Jesus set the captives free from Abraham's Bosom. Jesus didn't suffer in Hell. That is a false doctrine.

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The sins Jesus took from others were not his own sins therefore eternal hell had no legal right to hold him. Now if Jesus was bearing his own sins which he himself had committed, then Jesus would still be tormented in hell. Jesus paid the ransom that was due for sin, in order to free sin-bound and condemned man, his payment was accepted and paid in full, but the eternal damnation belongs to those whom refuse his payment on their behalf and does not belong to the Innocent whom paid the price for them.
---Eloy on 3/28/08


The sins Jesus took from others were not his own sins therefore eternal hell had no legal right to hold him. Now if Jesus was bearing his own sins which he himself had committed, then Jesus would still be tormented in hell. Jesus paid the ransom that was due for sin, in order to free sin-bound and condemned man, his payment was accepted and paid in full, but the eternal damnation belongs to those whom refuse his payment on their behalf and does not belong to the Innocent whom paid the price for them.
---Eloy on 3/28/08


I will tell you why Jesus decended into hell. He bragged to all the demons down there that their evil schemes did not work. He was raised from the dead. I love your style, Jesus. I say that a lot. And I mean it too.
---catherine on 3/27/08


#1 Jesus went to Upper Sheol after He died. He spent three days and three nights there with all the sainted dead, all those that had died believing God during the time before christ came and died. He told the thief on the cross that He would see him in paradise. He was talking about Upper Sheol. Upper Sheol is where Lazarus was when the rich man was trying to get Father Abraham to help him out. Father Abraham was also in Upper Sheol.
---Debbie_Jo on 3/27/08


#2 Jesus went down there, deep within the earth, because that was where the holding place was at. There was a great gulf between the holding place for the wicked dead and the sainted dead. Jesus went to preach Himself to the Old Testament saints in Upper Sheol. And when He left after the three days and nights, He led the captives captive. He preached to them salvation through His blood and they came up out of there with Him.
---Debbie_Jo on 3/27/08




#3 Read the Scriptures, they were seen by many after Christ's resurrection. Upper Sheol is now empty because it has been moved to heaven with Christ. Lower Sheol is still there, filled with the wicked dead. It is called Hell.
---Debbie_Jo on 3/27/08


Article of Faith:"He descended to the Dead the 3rd day he rose again"This is a matter of doctrine in which many christians disagree because they do not acknowlege Limbo or the apostles Creed. Limbo was a place where Good unbaptised people stayed till redeemed of their original sin.At the death of christ many dead arose and were seen walking in the cities.Jesus actually released them, enroute to Heaven.Rememember the word "Nothing defiled enters heaven'this purging was necesary.
---Emcee on 3/26/08


"Moderator - I think they meant what they said as it is one of the main false doctrines within the Charismatic circles."

MMR
---Michelle on 3/26/08


The Son of man suffered the first time he came,
and now he has also suffered. Read Luke 17:25
---duke on 12/15/07


Jesus suffered before he died in the cross etc...not after death.
---lisa on 12/4/07




The teaching that Jesus suffered in hell is one of the great HERESIES of our time. And it is taught by such people as, Kenneth Copeland, Joyce Meyer, and others of that cut(name it claim it preachers)
---Mima on 12/4/07


Rebeca et al: Christ preached to those "spirits" (living beings) in the "prison of sin" When? "When the Ark was being Prepared in the Days of Noah" How? "By the Spirit" before His incarnation in the flesh as Jesus.

Re-read those scriptures with this in mind.
See 1Pet3:19,20.
---TS on 12/4/07


Jesus didn't suffer in hell. Yes he went to hell to preach to the spirits in prison. But he didn't suffer by no means. I agree with the Moderator, it is a false doctrine.
---Rebecca_D on 10/20/07


ooh kathy that's why the perversions of today are so dangerous. hades is a holding place where you think of what you ve done wrong until youre sorry enough for heaven or some junk. similar to purgatory both unbiblical. ask a kid if they want to go to hades -theyll not care. ask if wanna go to hell-NO God put something in us to not like the word hell
---R.W. on 8/5/06


Jesus did not suffer in hell, He did not go to hell. When Jesus cried from the Cross "it is finished" His work on the Cross was finished for the redemption of mankind. That Jesus suffered in hell is a false teaching..
---Helen_5378 on 6/11/06


NIV in Revelation 20:14 says Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
Hades means the grave, when hades is cast into the lake of fire there will be no more death.

Compare Acts 2: 30-31 in the KJV to Act 2: 30-31 In the NIV or another translation of scripture.
Also look up words relating to hell (sheol, hades, gehenna)
---Kathy on 6/11/06


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To show that KJV used the word hell for different meanings look at
Revelation 20:14 KJV
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

How is hell cast into the lake of fire if hell is the place of torment? Continued
---Kathy on 6/11/06


What I have learned and believe:

In the King James Version translation the word hell is used for more than one meaning. It is used in relation to Fire - Matt 5:22, and also for the Grave or Hades - Rev 20:14. I have not found in the New International Version translations where the word hell is used when describing the grave. So it makes more since to say Jesus was put in the grave or hades, not Jesus suffered in hell. Continued
---Kathy on 6/11/06


Donna- read all of Psalm 22 and you can see why Jesus quoted the verse. People at that time would know what he was saying.
---ruben on 4/22/06


The Gospels insist much on the abandanment of Jesus:By the crowds, by the disciples and finally by the father himself. "You will leave me alone"John 16:32. "Then all the disciples forsake him and fled"Matthew 26:56, Mark 14:50.Christ solitude is impressive in the Episode of Gethsemane.Here he seeks repeatedy and in vain for some one to be close to him. Solitude reach its culmination on the cross,when Jesus, in his humanity, feels abandaned even by the father.
---Ramon on 4/22/06


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Donna, Psalms22:1 foretold what Jesus would say at that time, the special meaning it had for Him and for us is that through that pain, and the mocking of the on lookers,He,for a moment,experienced the source of all sin, a mind lead by its sensual perceptions. Thereby, He could not only understand it, He can be merciful and faithful in all things to make reconciliation for our sins, in that He Himself has suffered, or experienced being tempted
---josef on 4/22/06


Ruben--Why would Jesus be quoting Psalm 22 when He was in extreme physical agony? It couldn't have been easy to even get the words out. It must have had some special meaning to Him. What could He have meant?
---Donna2277 on 4/21/06


Ruben, as verses like this demonstrate, it is not that cut and dried.

John 16:10, "Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;"
---Bruce5656 on 4/21/06


Ramon_(#3.When Jesus cried upon the Cross, "Oh, Father, why have You forsaken Me?" it was then He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. )The Father and the Son cannot be separated for they are the same. Jesus was quoting scripture: Psalm 22....
---ruben on 4/21/06


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#3.When Jesus cried upon the Cross, "Oh, Father, why have You forsaken Me?" it was then He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His spirit, He said, "Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit." His suffering was completed in our stead.He did not suffer in hell.Thats a false doctrine.We find in Eph.4 Jesus descended first and then bringing a multitude with him (upward to be with him). So since Christ ascended all go upward to be with HIM.
---Ramon on 4/21/06


#2.Jesus said years later on the Cross to the thief beside Him, "Today, thou shalt be with Me in Paradise." His body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to the Paradise realm of Sheol / Hades( Abraham's bosom). He then removed all the righteous dead from Paradise and took them with Him to Heaven.Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to Hell or the suffering side of Sheol / Hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical!
---Ramon on 4/21/06


In Lk. 16:19-31, Jesus gave some details about the abode of the dead, with its two compartments separated by a great, impassable gulf, as he taught of two people that died and where they went afterwards.Jesus Here tells us that they is life afterdeath and that something survies at death.The rich man was very much aware of his misfortune as he suffered in Hades he had his thoughts. While Lazarus enjoyed the blessedness of Paradise (Luke 16:19-31)
---Ramon on 4/21/06


Elder;"Jesus went to the paradise side of hell"? Is this in the book of Elder? This is straight out of Greek mythology, where they had 3 compartments in Hades. Hades-sheol is 6 ft. down ,there are no separate areas, the people there are dead! Paradise has no relationship to hell! (Hades-hell) is from the Greek ,Paradise (paradeisos) is a Persian word meaning park or forest!#3857 Strong's.Where is paradise and hell used in the same sentence?
---1st_cliff on 4/21/06


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Elder, I agree that after salvation obedience is very important. And I believe the most important part of obedience is to" go ye therefore", and the purpose of our going of course is to enlarge the kingdom. By the foolishness of my message Almighty God can save Sinners. O Blessed be the name of the Lord!!!
---mima on 4/21/06


No oby Jesus didnt suffer in hell.Thats a false doctrine. Cliff said that christ was waiting for his father to resurrected him.But Cliff does not believe in the Trinity.So either cliff now accept the trinity or he's now saying that Jesus was not God. Cliff accepts the footnotes(like elder said)but he reject the NT. He said that the dead know nothing, but he cant understand that many of the passages in the OT is from the viewpoint of men. What they see. The body knows nothing.
---Ramon on 4/21/06


Mima, after salvation then what? More Salvation??
When Jesus went to the Paradise side of Hell the ones there were already Saved. If they were not then preaching the Salvation messages would have done no good.
There is a greater message of value to the Christian than Salvation and that is the one of Obedience.
Cond #2
---Elder on 4/20/06


Cond #2
We are to preach to the world Salvation but when we get Saved we are no longer in the world. Learning about our Salvation is one thing. Learning to be obedient is another.
Just like a Revival is not for the Lost. It is for the Saved to get right with their Saviour to go into all the world and preach the Gospel.
Churches need to stop feeding growing Christians on baby food and give them some real meat.
Christians need to stop being satisfied with baby food too.
---Elder on 4/20/06


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Moderator: I don't understand how you reached your conclusion. Help me! My comment was to help id. the when and where of the preaching not to suggest that all accepted the message. Clearly they did not! Nor did I imply that that was man's last chance! So help me understand your comment. Thanks. P.

Moderator - People lived after Noah, therefore I am stating people that were not born yet couldn't have been witnessed to during Noah's time.
---Pierr5358 on 4/20/06


I personally think that Jesus resurrected those that were in paradise at that time, and will get those after his resurrection at the rapture.

Matt. 27:52,53
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
1 Cor 15:21-26 (excerpt... Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end)
---chris on 4/20/06


Elder, the Scriptures say to" seek ye first the kingdom of heaven". Now with the world around us lost I can find no greater message for our preaching than salvation!!
---mima on 4/20/06


Mimi I preach to our Wed. night crowd. The majority are Saved. Preaching is not just about Salvation messages.
When Jesus went into the Paradise side of Hell He probably preached about the Promise of the Kinsman Redeemer being fulfilled. Cliff now believes the footnotes in the NT but still rejects NT Scripture. How/why is that? Jesus said He laid His life down and He would take it up again. Cliff says the Father resurrected Him, which He did, yet Cliff rejects the Trinity also.
---Elder on 4/20/06


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cont. The preaching in our text did in fact take place while the ark was being built. To WHOM was the preaching addressed? To "the spirits in prison" This expression is used to describe those who are bound in the "priso house of sin" See: PS 142:7. In summary: the preaching done by the Holy Spirit the preaching done during the construction of the ark the preaching done to "spirits in prison, meaning individuals whose sinful lives were bound in the prison house of sin. P.

Moderator - That view would imply 100% people that died after the flood were saved or went to Abraham's bosom. That's not remotely biblical.
---Pierr5358 on 4/20/06


Moderator: I agree with 1st Cliff's comment. Hope this addition will answer your question:1st notice HOW Christ preached to those spirits in prison. He did it by the SPIRIT-- the HOLY SPIRIT. So, whatsoever Christ preached during this period of time, He did it through or by the Holy Spirit. With that in view, let's ask "WHEN was the preaching done? The answer is found in v 20 "when once the longsuffering of God waited in the DAYS OF NOAH, while the ark was being built!" TBC
---Pierr5358 on 4/20/06


Moderator; I only know what the bible says;"the living know that they will die but the dead (not bodies) know nothing"(Eccl.9.5). Scripture reads ,resurrection of the "dead"like Jn.5.25 never resurrection of "dead bodies". Bodies have long since discintigrated.In the resurrection a new body is created! My personal belief is that Jesus was truly dead 3 days,and the preaching to spirits in prison was done back in Noah's day according to 1Peter3.19 NIV (footnotes)

Moderator - How could the preaching be done in Noah's day for people that died thousands of years later?
---1st_cliff on 4/19/06


Maybe Jesus took the OT saint's souls out of Abraham's bosom, and their bodies out out of the graves. Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Maybe this is says, his soul was not put in hell. Acts 2:27,31 Psalms 16:10
Luke 23:43 And Jesus sid unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
---Ulrika on 4/19/06


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Moderator; Acts.2.31 "He,seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ that His soul was not left in hell."32.This Jesus hath God raised up" This tells the story that Christ was dead awaiting His Father to resurrect Him. Any other conclusion would mean that Jesus never really died but just laid the body down, then picked it up later??? Where's the "death"? If someone changes a body like an overcoat where's the death?

Moderator - Are you saying Jesus's spirit disappeared?
---1st_cliff on 4/19/06


Moderator; So you're saying you arrive at your belief by "deduction?" In Greek mythology there were 3 parts of hades (underworld of the dead) The bad ones were sent to Tarteus (a dark and evil place) The good were sent to Elisium (a delightful place) the mediocre were allowed to wander around in a middle ground. So no one could escape it was garded over by Cerberus a 3 headed dog. Q? How much of this has found it's way into present day theology?

Moderator - Please answer the previous question. Where do you think Jesus went?
---1st_cliff on 4/19/06


PART ONE:
I offer this for your consideration:

Adam was told that if he sinned he would die.

And so he did, physically - many years later
and spiritually - immediately. We define spiritual death as separation from God.

We are told "the soul that sinneth shall die." Ezk 18:20
and "the wages of sin is death" Rom 6:23.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/06


PART TWO:
Jesus did die physically and he experienced separation from the father. Matt 27:46 (Yes, I know, how could Jesus be separated from the Father? I cannot explain that any more than I can tell you why he had to pray to the father and had to be led by the Holy Spirit.)

There is no indication that the spiritual death had to last any particular length of time.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/06


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PART THREE:
When he entered the place where the Jews called "Abraham's bosom", he was in the same state as the OT saints that had gone before him. His crucifixion fulfilled the requirement that blood be shed and that a sacrifice, representative of humanity, die.

There is no indication that Jesus suffered in hell any more than Abraham or any of the OT saints.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/06


PART FOUR:
The idea that he had to suffer in hell is not one that is found in scripture. He had to die. The three days he was in hell were to prove to the living that he really was dead. Imagine if, after they took him down from the cross, he was resurrected then and there. No one would have believed he really died.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/06


PART FIVE:
If Jesus had preached to those on the hell side, it would have been to demonstrate the faithfulness and righteousness of God. See, there really was an alternative...provision for sin...therefore God is just.
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/06


Jesus DID go to the place called Sheol, which is where the story of the rich man and Lazarus took place, but, He didn't go there to suffer. He went there and proclaimed victory to those who had died believing the promise of God, and JUSTICE to those who died without believing that promise. His suffering on the cross was sufficient for all, as He was and is the eternal Son of God.
---tommy3007 on 4/19/06


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Some expositors believe that Hades (Sheol) was a holding place for the dead; Hades having 2 compartments - Paradise & Torments(Lk. 16). At His death, Christ preached to the dead in Paradise and took Paradise with him to heaven (eph. 4:8-9, 2 Cor. 12:1-4) at the resurrection, leaving the wicked who will be judged at the final resurrection and perish in the lake of fire.
---lee on 4/19/06


Jesus went, as he said he would, to Paradise, i.e., Abraham's Bosom. He was not tormented/tortured in Hell. Rather, it was more of a victory celebration when he spoke to & set the captives (faithful ... Seth, Noah, Abraham, etc., etc., etc. ) free!!!
---Leon on 4/19/06


Acts 2:26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
---Exzucuh on 4/19/06


Rev.Herb..I believe you are correct.Hades was separated by a 'gulf',that's where the rich man looked across to the poor man in A.Bosom.Jesus preached to those in Paradise side of Hades..not the Hell side.
---lovable_linda on 4/19/06


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Hell could not hold him because he himself was sinless, he was carrying others' sins, and not his own. If the sins to took were his very own sins which he committed, then Jesus never could have resurrected himself, but because he in fact was sinless and eternal God, therefore death could not destroy him.
---Eloy on 4/19/06


In my opinion:
Hell is not so much a place as it is a STATE OF BEING, seperate from God totally and sensing it followed by THE EVENT, complete and final destruction of the wicked.
Hence Jesus DID NOT SUFFER three days in hell. Afterall He was dead in the tomb and the dead know not anything. He DID SUFFER ON THE CROSS and felt abandoned/lost as though He experienced the second death, as though He might never come back! That was the HELL He suffered for you and me! P.
---Pierre on 4/19/06


If Jesus suffered in Hell for 3 days, why did say this to the thief on the cross next to him:

Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

He was the last sacrifice. The lamb without blemish that was sacrificed for all of us. A gift for everyone, but only those of us who accept this gift will be saved. I doubt that the lambs that were sacrificed in the OT had to suffer in Hell to save them.
---chris on 4/19/06


If torment is the "center of the earth" and you don't believe He went there, then what do you think He meant when He said, "Three days and three nights in the heart (center) of the earth"?
---Linda6563 on 4/19/06


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Boy herb sounds like you been to Hell, I've never been there but I was supposed to go, who's report will you believe, Isaiah say's Christ had to suffer everything for me and you,to set us free, body for the resurrection, soul for the mind of Christ,Spirit so we could be born again.
---Exzucuh on 4/19/06


That Jesus suffer in hell is a false teaching of some. Jesus bore our sins( mine and yours)on the cross. However if Jesus prached to (only) those in Abraham's Bosom then those in Abraham's Bosom must have been lost- I wonder- is it possible that He preached to the ones in the place of torment?

Moderator - It's possible, however I would question what is the point.
---mima on 4/19/06


No Jesus did not suffer in hell.... that is a false doctrine. When Jesus cried from the Cross "It is finished" He meant it -- it was finished right there and then.... the price was paid. If He had then gone to hell He would have been lying when He said "It is finished" on the Cross.
---Helen_5378 on 4/19/06


We must understand that Hades (place of the dead)translated hell, was devided into two parts. One was for the dead in Christ,( Abraham's Bosom) the other a place of torment. Jesus was not in the place of torment. This was in center of earth. Christ took saints to heaven. We now go to heaven at death.
---Rev_Herb on 4/19/06


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Moderator; What scripture says Christ set the captives free from "Abraham's bosom"?

Moderator - Where else would they have come from if you don't believe they were in Abraham's bosom?
---1st_cliff on 4/19/06


I think the questioner is asking how Jesus' suffering (which as Mod says was not in hell, but just that crucifixion) was sufficient to pay for all the suffering that we as sinners would have received during an eternity in hell. Looked at from a human view, the sum does not add up. But there is more to Christ's suffering than the physical, because there was that separation from His Father.

Moderator - I think they meant what they said as it is one of the main false doctrines within the Charismatic circles.
---alan8869_of_UK on 4/19/06


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