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Can A Priest Forgive My Sins

Why would someone believe that a man of the Church or a pastor could prophesy about his life but he will not believe that a priest has been given the power by God to forgive sin?

Moderator - The Bible states only accepting and confessing Jesus Christ will forgive sin. No person can forgive your sins.

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Because JESUS CHRIST came into this world to SEEK and to SAVE sinners. No human can forgive you of your sin. Only OUR CREATOR Almighty God can. But we are to forgive those who have sinned against us, or Our Heavenly Father cannot forgive us. Amen!
---Cynthia on 9/12/07


No man can forgive your sin Only God the Father can. bUT WE SHOULD forgive those who trepass against us, for this is what Jesus Has taught us.

For the Father forgives our sin, so we too should also forgive one another.

Our Father who art in heaven hollowed be your name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread and FORGIVE US OUR TREPASSES AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO TRESPASS AGAINST US...
---CiNdY92714 on 9/12/07


Peoples try to understand, sins are only forgiven By contrition You have to be sorry Heartily sorry .Yet we have some uninformed shamed upstart beliefs your sins are washed away with the stoke of Faith like a flash of lightening "Born again" saved whoopee do!!no such thing The few catholics on these posts reiterate it time,yes time again,some do get the picture but the die hards & those with Blinkers still insist on Fallacies oSAS fAITH PRESUMPTION nO nO no ITS contrition.
---Emcee on 9/12/07


denna- Mark 2:7 "Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming,who can forgive sins but God alone?"


Like God He can give "Authority" to whomever he wishes: Matthew 9:6 "But so you may know that Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins". Scriptures goes on and tell us Matthew 9:8 "When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe, and they praised God, who had given such authority to"Men."
---Ruben on 9/12/07


No man can forgive your sins except the ones you have committed against him. Mark 2:7 "Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming,who can forgive sins but God alone?"

Prophecy is a manifestation gift of the spirit. Read I Corinthians 12:10.
---denna7667 on 9/12/07




Betty, according to the Bible, Jesus breathed on His apostles and gave them the authority forgive and retains sins. And this was part of the formation of His Church. What I have yet to see is Biblical proof that Jesus changed His mind and took back this authority.

Jesus also stated that when two or more were gathered in His name, He was present - therefore how can Jesus not be in the confessional forgiving sins. Did Jesus lie, or did some man change this doctrine without proper authority?
---lorra8574 on 9/12/07


Yes, I believe that only GOD ( Jeus manifested in the flesh) can forgive sins.
No one else. I believe all can pray for each other but Forgive sins.. No.. you can forgive one another for our faults but NOT SINS.. thank you Zena Ezechiels
---zena_ezechiels on 9/12/07


Pssstttt. Ed, that is the point.
---MARK_N on 5/24/07


Betty.
"No one hase the power to for give sins but Jesus Christ" - no-one disagrees with you. With respect what's your point?
---Ed on 5/24/07


No one hase the power to for give sins but Jesus Christ
---Betty on 5/24/07




No one hase the power to for give sins but Jesus Christ
---Betty on 5/24/07


(1) Peter wrote, "Coming to him as a
. . . . . . . living stone,
rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you
. . . . . . . also,
as living stones, are being bult up a spiritual house,
. . . . . . . a holy priesthood,
to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God
through Jesus Christ." (1 Peter 2:4-5)

Jesus is "a living stone";

we are living stones "also".

We are "a holy priesthood".
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/23/07


(2) "But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord." (2 Corinthians 3:18)

So, the Holy Spirit is changing each of us into "the same image" as the Forgiver, so we are "also" living stones like He is forgiving, as members of His priesthood of forgiveness.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/23/07


(3) Paul has shared, "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." (Galatians 2:20)

"My little children, for whom I labor in birth until Christ is formed in you," (Galatians 4:19)

The Forgiver lives and forgives through each of us.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/23/07


(4) "And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:32)

So, we are COMMANDED by Paul in infallible canon scripture to forgive "even as God" > how Jesus the High Priest in each of us in His image has us forgiving..."tenderhearted" with one another in how we forgive > LOVINGLY, PERSONALLY..."as I have loved you" (in John 13:34) > how Jesus our Groom forgives us.
---Bill_bila5659 on 5/23/07


TS
"So now God has to submit and accept the Priest's forgiving of sin?" - you know that isn't so. You are just marring Catholic belief by asking and suggesting that.
---Ed on 5/23/07


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Anonymous, that was my point. I know that healings do occur, my own Grandmother was healed by one gifted with that ability. My question to you was, if all of these other gifts remain, why would the power to forgive sins suddenly disappear? And how could this have happened as the Bible never recinded this Christ-given authority.
---lorra8574 on 5/23/07


Jesus is the only one (except God) whom has the power to forgive someone of their sins. Jesus didn't give his disciples the power to forgive others for the sins they commited. If he did, then he wouldn't have told them they could. But we read in Mk 2:7 that God is the only one whom can forgive sins. We as Children of God have the power through Jesus to heal people. It isn't us that heals, it is Jesus, that heals through us.
---Rebecca_D on 5/23/07


Ed: Subtle, but its the same thing as you quoted..."but He (God) can and does exercise it through the ministration of men (Priest)" - Catholic encyclopedia

So now God has to submit and accept the Priest's forgiving of sin?
---TS on 5/23/07


lorra8574: You don't believe that there are people who are being healed today even as we speak? I have heard more stories on miracle healings in this day and age than any other.
---anonymous on 5/23/07


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Anonymous, if the Apostles could do this, then why would it not have carried on? After all, by the laying on of hands of the presbyterate, the Holy Ghost is conferred. This continued. Some still cast out demons, speak in tongues, heal the sick and perform other tasks with the aid of the Holy Spirit. Why should just one element disappear - and where in the Bible does it say that it would?
---lorra8574 on 5/22/07


The moderator beat me to it. He is right. Only God the Father through Jesus Christ can forgive sins.
---catherine on 5/23/07


to say a man, a priest or my dog can forgive sins is in total disagreement with the teachings of Jesus Christ. references ok. how about these. Isa. 43:25, Jer. 33:8, Jer 50:20, Luke 5:20-24, Col 3:13, all these references state clearly only Jesus Christ can forgive sins. Men though believe they are God and can forgive sins. Even the apostles were commissioned to call people to repentence, but they were not endowed with the authority to forgive sins. That is reserved exclusively for the Son of God.
---ashley on 5/23/07


Just because a Priest can forgive sins while in the confession booth. That doesn't mean that person's heart is right with God. And that doesn't mean that their sins were/are forgiven by God. In order for God to forgive someone of their sins, that person must ask God himself. Yes we must confess our faults to one another, but we don't ask God, there is no forgiveness.
---Rebecca_D on 5/22/07


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TS

"No Catholic believes that a priest simply as an individual man, however pious or learned, has power to forgive sins. This power belongs to God alone; but He can and does exercise it through the ministration of men" - Catholic encyclopedia
---Ed on 5/22/07


Dima::what did you ask & I did not reply,
as I remember it was "separated Brethren".Look for Gods answer in gen3:15.You did not warrant a word this time as you behaved as a lady Or Gent.
---Emcee on 5/22/07


Dima, sorry I was referring to the specific founders of the Reformation, not every person seeking to reform Christ's church. Not all "reform" is bad. But I also can't help but notice that some Protestants no longer identify themselves with the original churches of the Reformation. Some even radically distance themselves from them because they believe that the founders were wrong on many things. It is the original errors that were condemned, not the desire to do good.
---lorra8574 on 5/22/07


Dima, sorry I was referring to the specific founders of the Reformation, not every person seeking to reform Christ's church. Not all "reform" is bad. But I also can't help but notice that some Protestants no longer identify themselves with the original churches of the Reformation. Some even radically distance themselves from them because they believe that the founders were wrong on many things. It is the original errors that were condemned, not the desire to do good.
---lorra8574 on 5/22/07


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An elder can pray over you but only God or Jesus can forgive your sins...Perhaps some of the Apostles could forgive sin because Jesus gave some of them power to do so.
---anonymous on 5/22/07


Dima, if what you said about that passage in John were true, then why do so many today feel that they can dispense with the presbyterate entirely and just repent to Jesus alone? And what about the sins that are retained?
---lorra8574 on 5/22/07


Dima, if what you said about that passage in John were true, then why do so many today feel that they can dispense with the presbyterate entirely and just repent to Jesus alone? And what about the sins that are retained?
---lorra8574 on 5/22/07


Ed: When did they change doctrine to say a Priest does not forgive sin???

"The Priest does really and truly forgive sins in virtue of power given to him by Christ" Joseph Devarbe Catechism p279.
---TS on 5/22/07


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Moderator

If you knew Catholic teachings properly you would know that a priest never claims to forgive sins. Only God can do that.
---Ed on 5/22/07


Lorra, if the reformers are dead, why are they still around? Emcee, that scripture you quoted has nothing to do with what I has asked you.At least you didn't call me a name this time. Whew!
---Dima on 5/21/07


Dima::"Separated Brethren"is not my word but that of God Almighty,Gen3 :15 "I will put enmity Between You & the woman.Her seed & Your seed"These words were to Satan.whom do you speak For?Enmity produces separation.This makes Jesus & Maryunseparable Like Adam2 & eva2-I am already Born OF.You have to speak for yourself.You say religion is dull Then please sharpen your wits on this passage.
---Emcee on 5/20/07


Dima, the anathemas were specific so unless you are the reincarnation of one of the reformers you are not under anathema. Further, many Protestants today do not actually follow the teachings of the Reformers, but evolved forms of the teachings which are much closer to Catholic teaching than many realise. Something discovered by the Lutheran Church which has a lot in common with the Catholic Church.
---lorra8574 on 5/20/07


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why do people become contentious. for one reason, truth is truth and many do not want to hear something that contradicts their beliefs. The Savior taught "by their fruits ye shall them." He also said "Whatsoever a man nurtures in his heart will come forth through thoughts, words and actions. Many profess Jesus Christ with their lips, but their hearts are far from Him. They love satan more than God. they ridicule those living the gospel every day and say they are evil.
---ashley on 5/20/07


Dima::You want an answer To BRETHREN---Did not jesus call the Jews His Brothers & sisters Yet they were divided,& even crucified Him; Did he change? Then you speak about my colour & attitude & back handed Compliments.What did Jesus Say Dima "those who are not with me are against me "If you have deigned to withdraw yourself from Jesus's Church in Matt16:17-19 Have you not separated Or are you still of One accord.would you consider these back handed compliments OR TRUTHS
---Emcee on 5/20/07


Dima::If your Brother Or Child walked away from YOU & what you believed To be correct is he disagrees, because,he thinks you are incorrect,is he still not Your Brother?
---Emcee on 5/20/07


Emcee,your true colors are slowly coming out. It is not my place to address your attitude, which is being seen by all. But if you are going to dialogue, please at least attempt to be polite.Also, I am not blogging here to impress you or anybody. I don't know where you get that from. Like I said, every negative thing you say about me, will be taken as a back-handed compliment. Keep 'em coming.
---Dima on 5/19/07


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Dima-Emcee:Emcee, then why do you call us ''separated brethren'' if there is no salvation in any other way except the RCC way? You cannot be ''brethren '' with people who are not saved. Please explain. Also, have the ananthemas ever been reversed ?

Emcee, you still have no answered.
---Dima on 5/19/07


Dima ::You pun & fun with words of God from His Holy Book.While you read you deny & do not try to understand because you do not BelieveFor people such as you I recommend Matt11:25Maybe if you pray for enlightenment& leave off association with The demon.Your writings will be less& understanding more.I am not convinced Or impressed.
---Emcee on 5/19/07


Emcee, then why do you call us ''separated brethren'' if there is no salvation in any other way except the RCC way? You cannot be ''brethren '' with people who are not saved. Please explain. Also, have the ananthemas ever been reversed?
---Dima on 5/19/07


Emcee:The authority is inside that box.

God, who put the stars in the heavens with His fingers, measured the waters in the sea with the palm of His hand, created heaven and earth is IN A BOX? The scriptures say ''the heavens cannot contain Him'', but the RCC can contain Him in a box. Is it because salvation is so simple that you don't understand and accept it as laid out in the Word? Too simple to be true?
---Dima on 5/19/07


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#1

Emcee, John 20:21-23 does NOT support the RC claim that its priests have power to forgive sins.There is no dispute that the apostles were given that power,however, the RCC claim that this power is possessed only by ordained priests is not supported in the text.
---Dima on 5/19/07


#2

ALL the early believers including laypersons,proclaimed the gospel by which sins are forgiven. ( Rom.1:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-4)This ministry of forgiveness and reconciliation was not limited to any ''special'' class known as ''priests'' or ''clergy'' (2 Cor. 3-5 )Philip was a deacon and not an elder or priest in the RC sense, preached the gospel to the Samaritans which resulted in the conversion of many, which also involved the forgiveness of their sins.
---Dima on 5/19/07


#3

The Apostles later came, not to convert them, but to give them the special gift of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2:38; 8:18 )This passage in John is parallel to the Great Commission in which Jesus instructed ALL His disciples to take the gospel into all the world and make disciples of them. In this mandate, as in John, Jesus promised that they would preach the gospel which would result in ''forgiveness of sins'' ( Luke 24:47 ) for those who believe.
---Dima on 5/19/07


#4
Contrary to RC claims, there is nothing in John 20:21-23 to support any special priestly power. It is simply an affirmation about Jesus giving to His disciples the ability to pronounce the forgiveness of sins for all who BELIEVE THE MESSAGE the apostles were commissioned to proclaim.
---Dima on 5/19/07


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DimaRobyn::While you may desire Salvation -JESUS'SALVATION the only way this is available is HIS WAY no if's, and's,Or But's. But you choose the way of Man guided by Satan then you are headed for perdetion,down under & it aint Australia,or Colarado.The words of John20:21-23are Jesus words hence Helen has no answer.The authority is inside that box & a priest of God is within to give you absolution & a return to Gods love & refuge.
---Emcee on 5/19/07


DimaRobyn::While you may desire Salvation -JESUS'SALVATION the only way this is available is HIS WAY no if's, and's,Or But's. But you choose the way of Man guided by Satan then you are headed for perdetion,down under & it aint Australia,or Colarado.The words of John20:21-23are Jesus words hence Helen has no answer.The authority is inside that box & a priest of God is within to give you absolution & a return to Gods love & refuge.
---Emcee on 5/19/07


1 Cor 2:10 "To whom ye forgive any thing, I [forgive] also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave [it], for your sakes [forgave I it] in the person of Christ;"
Paul could forgive sins in Christ's name without even being present.

John 20:22-23 "And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; [and] whose soever [sins] ye retain, they are retained."
---lorra8574 on 5/19/07


Part 2:

Matthew 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Catholic Priests forgive sins on Christ's authority not their own, with the knowledge that He is present. When they absolve sins, it is Christ who absolves because He promised.

Those that say otherwise are following man-made tradition, not scripture.
---lorra8574 on 5/19/07


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Dima - Hallelujah! Preach it sister, preach it. Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.
---Helen_5378 on 5/19/07


Jesus did not die on a cruel cross, shed His blood and rise again to give us RELIGION! Religion is Dull, dead and boring! Christ died to give us SALVATION! Keep your religion and I will take the ever-living Christ all day.Religion is devoid of the Spirit of God and will lie to you.Christ is NOT in religion.
---Dima on 5/18/07


No.....your priest does no have that power but you give it to him when you ignorantly walk into that little booth or whatever way you do that, confess dark secrets with this man and leave in worse shape than when you came in.God is not pleased with this abomination. You should be confessing and repenting to Christ. Seek the truth..and be set free, in the mighty name of Jesus!
---Robyn on 5/14/07


Ed - Roman Catholics believe that their sins are forgiven when they go into the confessional and confess to the priest. They do not believe that sin can be forgiven any other way other than by the priest.
---Helen_5378 on 5/14/07


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Helen::While acknowledging your Post You did not explain JN20::21-23,These are Jesus's words do you accept them or do you deny them.or are you denying Jesus as God did not have this power to depute.As a leader of the opposition you have the duty toclear up this matter.
---Emcee on 5/14/07


Emcee - Jesus Christ forgives me all of my sins, past present and future. It is Jesus Christ who died on the Cross for sin.
---Helen_5378 on 5/14/07


Helen
We know that. You are not telling us anything new. Nor does the Catholic Church believe that a priest can forgive sins. It is God that forgives.
Remember we don't understand with 100% clarity the workings of God and the world of religion. Religion is mysterious. It is full of wonder and miracles. Your approach in the last answer is too black and white to give fair justice to the subject.
---Ed on 5/14/07


Helen::"No man can forgive sins"If so then how are your sins forgiven,you assume -Rightis it a spirit who appears & tells you.?Jn20:20-23read what Jesus the risen lord says,be not confused,trust in HIS word not your stubborness.Helen you have had many warnings.
---Emcee on 5/13/07


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in the bible ,Peter ask JESUS; how many
times we should forgive others. He replied,70 times 7. that's 144 times daily. yes anyone can forgive through christ JESUS and his father GOD.
---Lyperson_John on 5/13/07


The priests that I have known don't say they forgive sins. They say that Jesus forgives sins, but as his voice in the community they assure you that through your confession that your sins are forgiven. If someone confessed their sins in my presence I would assure them that Christ forgives them too as a minister of the Gospel. As does everyone that ever been an evangelists.
---Jared on 5/13/07


Terry:While what you say is true.Yet this is only performed in the church of Jesus Matt16:17-19 There are evil spirits roaming the earth seeking the ruin of souls.This power is conferrrred by a bishop & only to a priest,who has this authority.The seal of Confession given, is under oath even to death.No one else has the power to forgive sins.
---Emcee on 5/13/07


Sin can only be forgiven by the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus gave His life in sacrifice for sin on the Cross. No man can forgive sin, only Jesus.
---Helen_5378 on 5/13/07


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Terry, Read Acts 8:17-18. Simon received the Holy Ghost, but could not do everything that the Apostles and their successors could. Frequently in the NT, there is mention of the presbytery, elders, bishops. When Jesus breathed on "them", "them" were not everybody, but those He ordained to the presbytery.
---lorra8574 on 5/13/07


Terry P2: We are obligated to forgive as Christians, but Jesus had the authority to absolve the sins of others or to retain them, that that is the authority that He gave to His ordained presbyters.

The Greek word "presbuteros" from which we get "presbyter" is the same word that evolved into the modern English word "priest". A Catholic Priest is not connected to the Levitical or Aaronic priesthood, but rather is an Elder in the traditional Christian sense.
---lorra8574 on 5/13/07


John Chapter20 V21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."
Does this not mean that whoever has received the Holy Spirit can forgive sin???
---Terry on 5/12/07


Because prophecying is a gift given by the Holy Spirit to edify the church and doesn't require the shedding of blood.Sins can only be remitted by the shedding of blood and the priests blood wasn't shed and wasn't the accepted payment for sins.
---john on 10/15/06


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Lydia:: With due respect I would request you to read scripture again.This bashing which we see occassionally is as revealed in Jn15:21-25 & Mattthew16:18-19.Priests forgive sins having been empowered by Christ & this they do In the name of the Trinity.Its not Emcee Its the word of GOD,I am just a humble pointer
---Emcee on 10/15/06


Many have answered this question before, that the priest only stands as the go between with man and God and that it is God who forgives, that in itself is wrong because it is Christ who is our Mediator, but now Emcee goes further then those others, he makes it very clear that it is the priest who has the power to forgive sin. That can only come from the teachings or traditions of the RCC, not from Scripture.
---Lydia on 10/15/06


Brother Eloy, a very good message you gave. Now just think of what you have to do, to make things right. Listen to the Spirit because you did write that yourself.
---lee_1 on 10/15/06


Emcee - You said "I don't know why But I am impelled to tell you" - You are speaking on behalf of the devil and the devil wanted you to speak falsehood in the hope that he can lead me astray.
---Helen_5378 on 10/15/06


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Emcee and Grace - A "priest" does not forgive sins. The power to forgive sin belongs alone to the Lord Jesus Christ. You show that you do not know who Jesus Christ is by the falsehoods that you proclaim. It is Jesus Christ who died on the Cross for sin, not some human being. It appeals to you that the "priest" can forgive you because it does not require repentance from you - you can just carry on in your sinful lifestyle.
---Helen_5378 on 10/15/06


Emcee - I know in whom I have believed.
---Helen_5378 on 10/15/06


Misapplication of scripture again I see. If someone offends me I can forgive them or not; but if someone offends somebody else I cannot forgive them (nor can any other priest) because I was not the one personally offended, only the one offended can forgive their offender. Whosoever you offend, go to him or her and make amends (seek forgiveness of the person you sinned against) from them, then go to serve God. Please read Matthew 5:23,24.
---Eloy on 10/15/06


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