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Am I Destined To Hell

Every week, I feel spiritually famished. Sometimes the Holy Spirit is so real- I feel its power. There is always a thought - I can always go back to who I once was (and it sometimes APPEALS; but I never will). Why am I plagued with these thoughts of not being one of His? Am I destined for Hell?

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Sounds to me like you have a problem of doubt and unbelief.

Either you believe Jesus died for your sins or you don't. There are times when we all feel we are not worthy, but if you are true washed in the blood, sanctified child of God you should not worry.
---denna7667 on 9/7/07


(Part 1) A pastor I knew a while back addressed this issue once. He said that anyone who worries about this has no reason to worry, because those who are truly Hellbound wouldn't care: they will go back to their old ways without remorse, give up their salvation, and lose their conscience. As long as you still feel guilt for these thoughts, you have not commited the unpardonable sin.
---david8576 on 9/7/07


When morning came, he called HIS DISCIPLES to him and chose twelve of them whom he also designated apostles: Simon (whom he named Peter), his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called the Zealot, Judas son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor" (Lk. 6:13-16)

Jesus "chose" his followers, Judas was one of His disciples.
---Ramon on 4/1/07


Jesus foreknew Judas would betray Him. That doesn't mean he was never a believer in Christ. He belived on Him and believed in who he was. It was foretold and foreknew that he would betray Jesus. That doesn't mean he was never a believer. Clearly Judas is a human and not a Devil(demon). Judas wasn't taken control over by the Devil until the last supper. Before then he was doing God's work and given authority over demons and the ability to cure diseases. So God gives such things to non-believers? Please.
---Matthew on 3/23/07


B.cont: If you go to John 6:63, you will hear Christ words to the apostles, "It is the Spirit who give life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you who do not believe. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him." here Christ knew that someone among them didn't believe in Him. And the arguement from Peter is, "But Simon Peter answered Him, Lord, to whom shall we go?
---frank on 3/23/07




C.cont: "You have the words of eternal life. Also we have come to believe and know that You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." Here in response to Peter's words that the disciples had come to believe in Jesus, He reminds them that He sovereignly chose them. Jesus would not allow even a whisper of human pretension in God's sovereign selection. So He answers," Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?
---frank on 3/23/07


D. cont: "He spoke of Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon, for it was he who would betray Him, being one of the twelve." Christ, knowing full well since He is God, knew that one of the one's He had chosen, was not going to believe yet was chosen "that Scripture might be fulfilled" Matt. 26:47-56, Zech. 11:12,13, Psa. 109:5-8, Acts 1:16. The indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the church did not occur until Pentacost. A permenent indwelling of all who believe. Juda's was not a believer.
---frank on 3/23/07


I would like to reply on the question of Juda's. I read someplace else from Matthew, not the book, but the person, and now from others here that Juda's was saved. Juda's first of all was not saved. I think what some are trying to do is to demonstrate that believers can be lost and find every possible idea they can gather to prove their stance but in doing so they compromise most of Scripture to prove their case.
---frank on 3/23/07


The truth is when satan knows you are destined for heaven It makes his job harder now he has to convince you that you wont make it. So he plagues your mind with doubt. If you read the bible there are ample evidence to prove who is and what he will do( sieve you as wheat is one another he is a roaring lion seeking whom he will devour )etc if you keep reading you will see his end and how you will overcome! Happy reading CarlaXXXX
---Carla5754 on 3/23/07


It may not be as clear cut as catherine has made it, lol . It takes knowledge of the bible to, send back every accusation to the devil. he is an accuser of the brethren, but when you know in whom you stand and what you stand on, CHRIST IS The Rock that you stand on and your salvation cannot be removed as long as you abide in him.
---Carla5754 on 3/23/07




Amen Catherine.
---helen_5378 on 3/22/07


Listen to me-- Anyone who is truly saved is no fake. Case close!
---catherine on 3/22/07


Tyler,
I too have had times when I felt unworthy of Gods love, and mercy. I read the scriptures, I spoke with others, I prayed and cried out, and yet those times come. God is so good to us all, He feeds our every need. His majesty, and might is so awesome, and overwhelming. I sometimes feel so small. But deep inside I really do know that because of God's fatihfulness, I am His, and He is mine. The natural man will never understand what he is to God, the spirit however never fails.
---lynet on 3/22/07


We are never alone. My entire life is a testimony to God. I have seen the near dead rise and walk home after a blessing. Seen angels with my own eyes. devils have been cast out through the Melchizedek priesthood I hold. When they left the house, their screams were heard by everyone in the street. The hand of God has saved my life on many occasions, where death was imminent. I am still here. My faith in Jesus Christ cannot be measured. Your views would change dramatically if you saw what I have seen.
---Dave on 3/22/07


Mima if those people were prophecying and driving out demons with power from God truly than God's Spirit had to be in them. Prophecy is God speaking through a person. Do you now believe a person can have God's Spirit in them and that person wind up not being saved? Either they were prophecying and driving out demons with God's gifts or the Devil's counterfeit gifts.
---Matthew on 3/22/07


Here's an example of people who had the power but were not of God. "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? "
"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
---Mima on 3/22/07


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Cynthia I was about to respond to Mima's statement until you answered the same way I would have. Yes why did God give some of His power to Judas if he was never saved and never one of God's. A person who belives Judas was never saved has to admit that God can give His power to someone who isn't His child.
---Matthew on 3/21/07


Mima, If you read Matthew chapter 10, from the very first verse it describes how Christ endued all 12 of His disciples with enduement of power. Satan entered into Judas at the close of Christs ministry, proving that he was not always an agent of the devil much less a devil from the beginning Luke 22:3, John 13:2. He was ordained to the ministry as much as the others by Christ. Mark 3:14.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/21/07


---Cynthia 1 are you saying that the following Scriptures say that Judas had the Holy Spirit in him? "But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak."
"For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you" ---Judas, the betrayer, was never delivered up. But instead took his own life.
---mima on 3/21/07


Cynthia:
John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
---JIM on 3/21/07


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Satan entered into Judas after they sopped the bread, Jn 13:27. Jesus knew from the beginning that Judas was going to betray him Jn 6:64. Judas knew Jesus, walked beside him day and night. Saw many healings done by Jesus. But still someone had to betray Jesus, or things wouldn't have worked out the way that they did. Ps 41:9 was a prayer from David. Matthew 10:19-20 says nothing about the Holy Spirit being in Judas.
---Rebecca_D on 3/20/07


Cynthia ... Did Jesus appoint bishops whilst He was alive? Jesus died before the establishment of the Church after Jesus died.
Was Judas ever an Apostle (the forerunners of Bishops) or just a disciple?
---alan_of_UK on 3/21/07


Dear friends in Christ.
I too share the thoughts and feelings of people here.
In my darkest moments i think of Job, with his sores, and rejections by men, and thoughts that God had given up on him.
But i know that God loves us all. Every sinlge one of us. We have to fight for our salvation. Keep praying. Keep asking for forgiveness. And Loving God and our neighbour. And don't forget God knows what He is doing. We must trust in Him completely.
God Bless.
---Ed on 3/20/07


I must tell you Tyler, There have been many moments that I have had this experience also, but though you may not understand it now, you are actually being perfected by the things you suffer, though some times things can get so hard you feel like what is the point of living, however, God is alowing this to happened to get you to rely solely on Him. Stay in Prayer, He will give you the water of life, like you have never known before, do not be discouraged.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/20/07


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Now Mima, Judas was chosen as one of Jesus 12 disciples, why would he chose a known devil to be one of His disciples.

Psalm 41:9 He was a familiar friend of Christ. Christ trusted Judas at one time or He would not have said ''in who I trusted''. He was a Bishop of Christs church: Acts 1:20 and Psalm 109:8. He had the Holy Spirit in him: Matthew 10: 19-20
---Cynthia_1 on 3/20/07


Cynthia "Judas Iscariot, was a Christian, and Spirit filled, he was also made a Bishop in Christs church"
Where is your evidence?
I see no problem in beleiving the Bible record of Judas Iscariot's death at virtually the same time as the Crucifixion, and it would have been before Pentecost, when Jesus first sent the Holy Spirit.
---alan_of_UK on 3/20/07


Cynthia: Judas was chosen as one of the twelve apostles by Jesus Christ. He knew what would happen. The same way Peter denied Jesus three times, Judas had to betray Him, or His words would have been false. Judas felt so bad after that betrayal that he hanged himself. To call someone a devil for fulfilling scripture is absurd. Everyone can repent in life so their sins are forgiven. Jesus forgave Him, so why does that make him any less a person.
---Dave on 3/20/07


Cynthia. I apologise for directing my blog response at you. I was agreeing with you. It was Mima that my blog was written for. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.
---Dave on 3/20/07


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---Cynthia_1 your statement about Judas being a Christian and spirit filled is on the face of it absolutely ridiculous. Judas was a devil when Jesus chose him, and he was a devil when he perished.
---Mima on 3/20/07


"As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he.." Stop letting satan tempt you and use the will that God gave you to stay on track. Read Romans and persevere. Nobody said being a Christian is easy, but the rewards are worth it and if you build a relationship with Christ, you would not want to sin, for it would hurt that relationship, that respect and foremost love for Jesus Christ your Savior. Make the choice and stick to it, God will help you.
---Junia on 3/20/07


This walk is a walk of faith. Anytime we try to walk out our salvation in the flesh, that is making ourselves worthy enough, these feelings of inadequacy arise. When we came to Jesus, we came as we were. It's up to the Lord and our spending time with Him to transform us. Being tempted is not a sin, it's giving in to that temptation. No, you are not destined for hell, just relax in Him.
---Yolanda on 3/20/07


A person can fall from grace (God) and die and go to hell. To say that if a person backslides on God that they were never saved to begin with is false. Way back when I backslide on God, and I had to start all over again with my relationship with Christ. I am stronger in Christ now than I was, but I am more mature in his word.
---Rebecca_D on 3/20/07


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No Sir, you are not destined for Hell, not if you have been truly saved. If that is the case, you have been saved, You need to have a talk with Jesus. He can ease your mind.
---catherine on 3/20/07


Bob, Judas Iscariot, was a Christian, and Spirit filled, he was also made a Bishop in Christs church.

What does the Great Apostasy mean to you?

What is a backslider Bob?

Many so called christians are now in Hell itself, burning for all of eternity.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/20/07


If you do go back you were never saved. No one goes back once you are a child of God. Not possible for a true believer to stop having faith.
---Bob on 3/20/07


I think you will do what you want when you are not saved. You do what God wants when you are saved. Obedience is the result of one's salvation. I recommend that you make your salvation sure as the Bible teaches.
---Lydia on 3/20/07


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There is only one "unpardonable sin" that will never be forgiven.

Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Matthew 12:31-32.
---Cynthia_1 on 3/20/07


Dear Tyler.
God loves you (and all of us). He doesn't want one of us to go astray.
Keep praying to God. Keep asking for forgiveness. Keep loving God and your neighbour.
God bless.
---Ed on 3/20/07


There is an unpardonable sin, my friend,===1-Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit or hardness of heart. 2-Many interpreters believe this sin consists of rejecting the testimony of the Holy Spirit about Christ's person and work. [Crediting the things of God and giving them to the devil.] Now again, God sees the heart. If you are worried about it, you probably have not committed the unpardonable sin.
---catherine on 3/20/07


2. Lets now look at what the word of God says, "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the ages to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance." Listen to what he said, "For it is impossible" What is the point? that it is impossible for the believers in Christ to fall away and crucify Christ again.
---Lisas on 3/19/07


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Peter; there is unpardonable sin. Which is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. Mat 12:31-32. Mk 3:29. And when God turns one over to a reprobate mind. Romans 1:26-28, 2 Cor 13:5-7.
---Rebecca_D on 3/19/07


Tyler, many brothers and sisters have already asked you to stop relying on feelings. Trust in God's word. John 5:24 says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath ETERNAL LIFE, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life.
Eternal life is not a destination for those going to hell. Do you trust in Christ whom God sent to die for our sins in our place?
---Edmond on 3/19/07


Tyler, what do you think? Where do you think you are going? Don't ask us, what do you really think is your destination? Do you love Christ with all of your heart? Do you really love Him? If you go back to what you use to be, what are you talking about? What did you use to be? who are you now? You didn't explain nothing only that you have feelings and thoughts.
---karen on 3/19/07


peter, oh I beg to differ, there is a unpardonable sin, blaspheming the holy spirit. or in other words attributing the works of the holy spirit to satan. jesus said this sin will not be forgiven.
---tom2 on 3/19/07


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There is no such thing as an unpardonable sin. Christ died to give us this gift. We cannot be saved by our own merits - only by accepting the grace of God and that the blood of Christ was spilled for us. This acceptance will bring us to Him. The devil tempts us and tells us we are not saved. I too suffer with this but I know it for what it is. You love God, pray about it and carry on.
---Peter on 3/19/07


Once God opened up that Red Sea and the children of Israel crossed over, didn't the sea close back up...and on the enemy at that? Even though there were some who died in the wilderness, none of them ever went back no matter how many times they talked about it. If it was that real for a people who got the natural lamb inside them, how much more real should it be for us who have the spiritual Lamb inside of us?
---Linda6563 on 3/11/07


satan is called the accuser of the brethren.the battle my dear takes place in the mind,thats why the bible tells us to take captive every thought.thats why paul tells you to put on the whole armor of godthe sword of the word, breastplate of rightousness,and others so that you will be able to withstand satans arrows.bible also tells us to rebuke satan and he will flee.tell him to leave you belong to jesus.
---tom on 5/23/06


Excellent responses,everyone. Bless you
---josef on 4/25/06


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Have you really accepted Christ as your Lord and Saviour? If you have, then stop depending on feelings. One of your problems is you think the Holy Spirit is an it when the Holy Spirit is a He. The devil will put thoughts of doubt in your head to make you a useless Christian. Just trust in the Lord and tell the devil to get behind you. You are trusting in the blood, not feelings.
---Rev_Herb on 4/23/06


If you are saved and it sounds like you are, the devil will keep telling you over and over you are not saved. When he convinces us that we are not saved and eventually we will loose our testimony. When we loose our testimony, people will probably go to hell because of it. If you are saved, you will never go to hell. Hang in there, pray everyday and study your bible. I will pray for you also.
---shira on 4/23/06


One thing I can tell you even though I am sitting way over here.........You are not spending enough time in God's Word and seeking His face.
---Elder on 4/23/06


(Part 3) I guess that's what it comes down to: If you love God and still care what He thinks, you'll be all right. No matter what "mountains" may be in front of you, as long as you still rely on God, you can overcome them. Start relying on His strength more than your own, and it will become easier. Know that as long as you return to God, he will welcome you. Those who have committed the unpardonable no longer have any desire to return.
---david8576 on 4/23/06


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(Part 3) As for why you're plagued by these thoughts, well, truthfully, most of us are at one point or another. I know I was, and I even partially fell to the temptation once or twice. I never FULLY went back, because I always said I "believed in God, but wanted to know more about the alternative" (Oh, what a misguided child I was!) I came way too close for comfort, but thankfully God protected me from going far enough to lose salvation, because deep down I still loved Him.
---david8576 on 4/23/06


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