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Does The Bible Contradict Itself

Why do you believe the bible if it contradicts itself in many places?

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Doug:

Acts 9:7 'The men travelling with Saul stood there speechless, they heard the sound but did not see anyone.'

22.9 'My companions saw the light but did not understand the voice of of him who was speaking to me.'


I really do not see any contradiction here. Two accounts of the same event, written by the same person.

In the first they did not understand the voice which means they heard a sound but didn't understand it. Paul adds 'they did not see anyone.'

In the second they still don't understand the voice, hearing just a sound. In this account Paul says they also saw the light.

There is different, but not contradictory, information in the two accounts.
---Warwick on 4/17/09


veritas I just love it when people make such amazing sweeping statements. You write 'There is no physical evidence...' That is no physical evidence for the Bible.

Before I comment any further please tell me what you would accept as physical evidence for the truth of the Bible? Unless I know what you would accept as evidence, I can't give you any.
---Warwick on 4/17/09


I've always been confused by Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9. In one verse, those with Paul heard the voice, in the other they didn't.

I have never assumed the Bible to be infallible. Instead I assumed it to be mans' record of God's interactions with men. And, I assume that that record has been told, copied, and translated many many times over thousands of years and that men make mistakes, both in recounting things as well as in writing, copying, translating and then finally in interpretting.
---Doug on 4/16/09


veritas: "nobody KNOWS the truth, people only have faith"

I disagree. In many instances this may be true, but my God and His word states that we will know the truth and the truth will set us free, and according to Jesus "and do you not understand these things? I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe, how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly
---Christina on 4/16/09


God can neither be disproved nor proved.

There is no physical evidence for it, which is why so many scientific minds (and those who were not brought up in a religious household) do not believe. It takes faith to believe in something with no physical evidence.

Times are changing, god gave us science, which is beginning to find inconsistencies in the bible. I do not know if this is because the bible is wrong, or because the bible has been translated over so many years it has become misinterpreted.

Like i said, if you want to believe in god nobody can say you are wrong because they dont know. but nobody can say you are right either. the fact is, nobody KNOWS the truth, people only have faith
---veritas on 4/16/09




I was always content/satisfied being who I am (I never felt the need or had the desire to show love to myself).

Scripture says that we should love others AS we love ourselves (I simply don't SHOW LOVE to myself, my self-esteem is fine).

God is saying that we should not love others MORE than we love ourselves (because then they become an ICON/hero, there is only ONE hero in Christianity...GOD).

There are no contradictions, only MISUNDERSTANDINGS about scripture. God is integral with His SPIRIT, not with the written word (word of truth", 2 Timothy 2:15, Ephesians 1:13).

Do not show love to yourself (keep humility genuine).
---more_excellent_way on 2/1/09


yes! the bible contradicts itself.
it tells you to love yourself, then deny yourself -that self is a sin. mike

Love of self does not mean give in to your every wish. Do you think people who gorge themselves on food and get drunk really love themselves.


it tells you to give your 10% to be blessed, then tell do not store treasures on earth. mike

Blessing are not to be hoarded for self. We are to give to help others and spread the truth.
---Samuel on 1/30/09


mike. honestly you do not understand the Bible. When Jesus told the people to obey the authority, it was only if it did not go against God, because obeying the authority would then become a sin. The pharisees oppressed the people and made them follow rules that they themselves could not follow. God is not about rules but faith. That is why Jesus told them not to use their own understanding because there is an element of faith, and it was this faith that the Pharisees did not understand.
The Bible does not contradict unless it is taken out of context.
---nick on 1/29/09


Strongaxe, that is interesting. I don't argue with fools, but instead I put my pearls in front of those that may become saved and blessed thereby. I just preach the truth: but if dissers choose to mock my words, then that is their own foolishness and their own loss. I delight wholly in the perfect wisdom and light from God's Word, rather then in any empty idle-talk and blaspheming from fools. Whenever just one sinner repents and becomes saved, then we have much joy in heaven.
---Eloy on 10/23/08


These were great answers below to the fool question.

I think what has happened in large part to us is we avoid the confrontation with the foolish. If in our power/knowledge they should be shown otherwise.
We have all been the recipient of being put in place...yeah, it burns us up or we come out wiser.
As I get older I've realized WE DON'T DO THIS ENOUGH, rebuking gently or forcefully foolish things....AND IS ONE REASON WE ARE BEING ANTAGONIZED BY FOOLS AND WOLVES IN AREAS OF OUR LIVES.
We say nothing which can be taken as agreement or actually agree just to keep peace.
---Trav on 10/22/08




athiest, I don't believe the Bible contradicts itself.
I believe that Jesus really wanted us to leave it all up to Him as he says for us to.
It is man that makes the Bible contradict itself, not God. We sometimes forget the purpose for which Jesus came...TO SAVE US.
Jesus says many times He is the judge. He is the author and finisher of our faith. That is the key word..FAITH. Some Christians don't have enough faith so they take the judgement of sin into their own hands when it is not theirs to begin with. None are without sin. Some Christians forget where God has brought them from..sin. That is what that means, we used to be sinners but Jesus forgave us. Human nature just doesn't want to forgive like Jesus does.
---ginger on 10/22/08


Eloy:

I have heard a more modern restatement of that same proverb:

Never argue with fools, it lowers you to their level, and they beat you with experience.
---StrongAxe on 10/22/08


yes! the bible contradicts itself.
it tells you to love yourself, then deny yourself -that self is a sin
it tells you to give your 10% to be blessed, then tell do not store treasures on earth.
it tells you to not lean to your understanding, then christ told the pharisees they lack understanding
it tells you to obey authority, but christ defied the pharisees religious authorities.
that is why pastors also contradicts themselves & practice hypocrisy.
---mike on 10/22/08


Trav, Jesus Christ did not call her a dog, she called herself one. Jesus commended her for her words.
---frances008 on 10/20/08
Well, careful not to fool yourself. We want Jesus sometimes like we want him. Reality is...there are dogs. I own one, reality. He has attibutes of one. There are people classed as such. Search the word dog in Bible concordance for all usages. Pray for discernment of. We still love some dogs. Wolves r dog family....but,useful? Yet millions send money to these.
Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
Philippians 3:1-3
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and WHOSOEVER LOVETH and MAKETH A LIE.
Revelation 22:14-16
---Trav on 10/22/08


Rachel, this is a mistranslation by the English translators. The hebrew word in verse 4 is "tan", meaning "delight", and the hebrew word in verse 5 is "anh", meaning "answer". Thus, lit.Hb: "Delight not a fool for his foolishness, else you become like him, even you: Answer a fool for his foolishness, else he may be wise in his own eyes." Proverbs 26:4,5.
---Eloy on 10/22/08


Rachel,

Pr26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

Solomon is telling us not to answer the fool "according to his folly". In other words, if we answer a fool along the same line of folly (reasoning) as he is using we will be made a fool like him. - Advice: Don't answer him.

Pr26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

There are times that a fool must be answered because of the folly (nonsense) he has spoken. If he is not answered he will be wise in his own conceit. Advice: When we answer him, don't answer him within his own line of folly (reasoning)(vs. 4), but answer him with Godly wisdom, or from God's word.

Bless you,
---trey on 10/21/08


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Rachel - "My question is about Proverbs 26:4-5"

Good question. When you look up these verses in the Greek you find two slightly different words for the English word "answer". Verse 4 uses a word in the imperfect mood. Verse 5 uses a word in the imperative mood. This may be parsing in your eyes, but it removes any contradiction in mine. However it does highlight the limitations of language translation.

Hope that helps.
---AG on 10/21/08


Prov 26. verses 4 and 5 are both correct. If you answer a fool, you risk being like him (putting yourself on his level) - so don't do it. If you answer a fool, don't make him appear wise. This calls for a lot of discernment. Better to ignore foolish people.
---frances008 on 10/21/08


My question is about Proverbs 26:4-5. Verse 4 says - Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you will be like him yourself. Verse 5 says - Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes. Unless my eyes are deceiving me, I'm being told not to answer a fool according to his folly and then immediately TO answer him according to his folly. This seems to me a contradiction.
---Rachel on 10/21/08


I believe Jesus called the woman a dog and she herself thought he called her a dog has a close reading of the Scriptures Matthew 15:26-27 will indicate.
"26-"But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

27-"And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table."

---mima on 10/21/08


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Trav:

There is a resource called the Skeptic's Annotated Bible that points out alleged Biblical contradictions. You can check it out and see whether they are in fact contradictions or not. Don't take their word for it (or anybody else's) - just look up the verses and study them carefully, and judge for yourself.
---StrongAxe on 10/21/08


What may be a contradiction or what may be truth depends on what you take by faith.

If you believe there is a creator, and that he is flawless, and that he spoke to man, and that those conversations were recorded flawlessly, you still must deal with the deficiencies of language translation. Language is dynamic and imperfect. What was clear in the original may be fuzzy thousands of years later in a different language.

Therefore, unless you believe all translations are divinely flawless, you must gain some understanding of the ancient Hebrew and Greek languages and an understanding of ancient Hebrew cultures before you can nitpick what may or may not be a contradiction.
---AG on 10/20/08


mike:

If one believes in a book but doesn't obey it, that makes him wrong, NOT the book. I had great respect for Bertrand Russell, one of the foremost mathematics and logicians of the 20th century, until I read his book "Why I am Not a Christian". It's not about the subject (even though I disagree with it, I can still respect someone who holds different beliefs). However, his argument was of the form "Christians are hypocrites and live lives of which I disapprove. Therefore Christianity is false" - a totally fallacious argument much like "Einstein was wrong about Relativity because he had messy hair". For the world's leading logician to misuse logic this way makes all his other conclusions suspect as well.
---StrongAxe on 10/20/08


Sophia, this is not a contradiction. The Greek words are "phonis" meaning "voice", and "phonin" meaning "speech". Therefore the men with Paul were "hearing a voice" Acts 9:7, but they "heard not the speech" Acts 22:9. The men heard God's voice, but they did not hear the Hebrew speech spoken to Paul. And this is confirmed in Acts 26:14.
---Eloy on 10/20/08


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Trav, Jesus Christ did not call her a dog, she called herself one. Jesus commended her for her words.
---frances008 on 10/20/08


I think one of the reasons this is even a question for the blog site is all the different doctrines that contradict each other.
The you have Televangelist....who are wolves for the most part.
Throw in this book was never intended for everyone. Yet some Tares use it as well. Hold on a minute you universalist.....Refer to Esau....whom GOD hated..Refer to the Parables. Even the woman Christ called a dog had a daughter healed.

Having said the above....scripture with a few bad word translations, I believe is exactly what we were intended to have. The bad translations can be searched out/rectified and the Bible links one end to the other. Scientifically and otherwise.
---Trav on 10/20/08


Elder: At some point, when you stretch things too far in order to force things to match, you are not being honest with yourself or others. I agree with Sophia that this seems an obvious contradiction. No one that I know of would assume your interpretation is the simplest or best, though it does help gloss over an apparent mistake in the Bible. Of course, I have never assumed that the Bible was infallible since it has multiple translations out at any given time. Also, men's memories are often somewhat faulty, their writing sometimes not perfectly accurate and translations always open up extra avenues for more problems to creap in. It would be a miralce if the Bible had no faults to begin with and an even bigger one if it has none today.
---David on 10/20/08


To Whosoever has an ear to hear?

Whomsoever, on their own merits, tries to gain the understanding of God's Wisdom, will eventually run into contradictions because they'll inevitably be looking at it out of context.

"No one, on our own, can see past something that they do not understand!!!!!"

God's Wisdom is only revealed by the discernment of His Holy Spirit which we receive through FAITH!!

If it appears to contradict itself, it's only from the lack of faith which is from a lack of hearing which is from a lack of the Word of God, which is needed to discern the understanding of God's Wisdom!!!!!!
---Shawn.M.T on 10/18/08


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I never think about it. I know it's the word of God and God does not contradict Himself. But if you fail to study you will be confused. I am far too busy studying, learning, ect. Amen.
---catherine on 9/8/08


"Read Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9 then tell me whether the men traveling with Paul heard the voice or didn't hear the voice? Maybe I am missing something, but this seems obviously self contradictory."
sophia

Sophia if I talk on the phone you may hear me but not the one speaking to me.
Read Acts 9:7 it says they heard a voice and saw no man. Didn't Saul/Paul speak? Yes, he did.
Acts 22:9 Paul states the others saw the light but did not hear the one who spoke to him.
They certainly heard what Paul said to God but not what God said to Paul.
No contradiction there. Just plain ol' Truth.
Read Acts 22:6-11. They heard Paul speak but not God. The light was so bright they saw no one at all, not even Paul or each other.
---Elder on 9/8/08


Read Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9 then tell me whether the men traveling with Paul heard the voice or didn't hear the voice? Maybe I am missing something, but this seems obviously self contradictory.
---sophia on 9/8/08


The Holy Bible does not contradict itself in any place: it is the person's misunderstanding and miscomprehension of the words which create conflicts to the person, and not the absolute Truth which is taken wrongly by the person.
---Eloy on 6/19/08


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We cant read JUST the bible and expect to understand. We need to be led by the Spirit, HE is your teacher.You can memorize the bible and know nothing.
---duane on 6/19/08


God is not contradicting Himself in the Bible, nor does God 'evolve'. He is what He always was, and always will be. Selected verses cherry picked will prove contradictory if that is why they are picked. Reading in context clears up everything. It is a perfect book for those who have taken the time to seek the Truth of Scripture. If you go into it seeking to demolish it, you will deceive only yourself. God who created the DNA with every bit of information that tells your body how to function, grow, preserve itself, repair and heal itself, the same God is manifested throughout the Bible. Just as our bodies have many different parts that do different things, at different times, God is a perfect being who responds in different ways to different things that he set in motion in the Beginning. Read the Bible and learn.
---frances008 on 6/19/08


Yes Warwick, I have to agree with you.
---james on 6/17/08


Hi Atheist:

When we read something in a text book or any other similar material and we do not understand it, we seek understanding from those whom, we consider to be more knowldgeable. However, when we read something in the Bible that we do not understand, we claim contradiction. Is not life interesting?
---Janze on 6/17/08


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James parts of Scripture are hard to understand but I have found that over time, via studying the word and prayer, I have been given understanding of things I wondered over.

Many of the supposed difficulties and contradictions posed here are quotes from anti-Christian websites, things which were answered years ago. But many Christians do not really study the Word and and Biblically illiterate.
---Warwick on 6/16/08


I am not sure, but it sure does appear to be so since there are so many questions here and so much confusion. What would happen if we just kept to the words of Jesus?
---james on 6/15/08


The Bible does not contradict itself.If it seems to do so, then you have the wrong interpretation.Pray the Lord to show you the Truth.Acts2:38.
---donald on 12/31/07


I adhere to the law of non-contradiction.

Biblical interpretation of Scripture cannot be both true and false.
If false gospels are not in Scripture, they cannot be true.
---Michelle on 12/31/07


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Isn't it odd that Christianity is the only belief that is questioned for its contradictions?

The Christian faith is the only one that seems to have this question posed. The truth is that every major religion in the world claims exclusivity, and every major religion in the world has a point of exclusion.
---Michelle on 12/31/07


Atheists and agnostics are usually accepting of most every other belief system with the exception of Christianity - why is that?
You don't find them questioning any other religion or arguing with them about contradictions. Rarely will you find the atheist or agnostic battling it out on those sites. No, you'll find them here questioning the contradictions of the Bible and Christianity - why is that?
---Michelle on 12/31/07


That fight against the contradictions of the Bible and Jesus Christ only reinforces my testimony of Jesus Christ and that He is the Savior.


Islam, is very clearly an exclusive claim to God. A Muslim will never tell you that it doesn't matter what you believe or that all religions are true.

But before you get upset with such claims, remember that it is the very nature of truth that presents us with this reality. Truth by definition is exclusive.
---Michelle on 12/31/07


Everything cannot be true.

If everything is true, then nothing is false. And if nothing is false then it would also be true to say everything is false. We cannot have it both ways.

The truth emerges. The law of non-contradiction applies to reality. Two contradictory statements cannot both be true.
---Michelle on 12/31/07


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To deny the law of non-contradiction is to affirm it at the same time.

Test truth claims before you believe them. If the test demonstrates truth then believe it.

Christianity is not that it has been tried and found wanting, but that it has been found difficult and left untried.
---Michelle on 12/31/07


one verse that the bible contradicts itself is love your neighbor as 'yourself' & the other is 'deny'your'self' carry cross...yet those who advocates self denial are hypocrites. they don't deny themselves but look after their own interest!
---mike on 12/31/07


If you think the bible does NOT contradict itslef, then tell me what Col.1:24 said. How about John 15 against Rom. 11:17? And how about John 14:15,21 against Gal. 12:10,11,12,13?
---Dr._Rich on 12/31/07


MarkV :: The bible DOES NOT contradict itself but each has a meaning in its appropriate place.ITS MAN'S interpretation that contradicts & causes more misunderstanding that is why The H/S in the RCC is the guiding Factor.
---Emcee on 12/31/07


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I have read and meditated on the Bible for many years and have yet to find any contradictions...many who claim there are are mistaken in their interpretation of God's Word, the confusion is theirs not God's
---Margaret on 12/31/07


For the last time, God does not contradict Himself. Where is your faith, my friend? You are putting your faith in what the devil is telling you. Instead, put your faith in what God saids.
---catherine on 12/31/07


Contradictions are only an issue for the literalist.
---MikeM on 12/30/07


There are at least two complete Codices of the complete Bible in Greek dating back as early as 300-325 AD, as well as volumes of volumes of earlier (large) fragments in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic of various books of canonical book of the bible. From these are the source documents for (the plethora of, -sigh-) modern translations. A fact for perspective: the KJV was based on c.1100 Textus Receptus, a modern transaltion c.325. The fact: the Living Bible is alive and well.
---guiseppe on 12/30/07


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I would say so, since Jesus Christ is the Word.
---lovable_linda 12/19/07
Yes, this is true. Jesus is the Word, Jesus is all truth. We do not want to be found rejecting any truth of the Bible because we in essence have rejected Jesus Christ. This includes Jesus own words "Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy" of Exodus 20:8-11. Reject His Sabbath, you have rejected Jesus, and grieve away the Holy Spirit, whereby you are sealed unto the day of redemption.
---Gina7 on 12/29/07


#4. Would guide the apostles into "all the turth" (John 16:13) and bring all things that He had taught them to their rememberance (John 14:26). Thus, the principle that "Canonicity is determined by insipiration" was pronounced by Jesus concerning the Old Testament, and promised in the New Testament. Now all this cannot be believed unless you have faith in Christ and His word. When the Word of God was written it became Scripture and in asmuch as it had been spoken by God,
---Mark_V. on 12/29/07


#5. it possossed absolute authority. Since it was the Word of God, it was canonical. That which determines canocicity of a book, there fore, is the fact that the book is inspired of God. By the close of the first century the 27 books that compose the New Testament had been accepted by the early church as canonical. The council simply affirmed what the early church had long since affirmed, that the 27 books we know as the New Testament were canonical.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/07


#6. The early church accepted the Scriptures the same why as Israel accepted the Old Testament, they believed the Scriptures to be inspired of God. The church rightly saw herself "as subject to the authority of Scripture." Though the church existed before the New Testament was written, this did not give the church authority over Scripture or even authority equal to Scripture. " The church must always be subject to the authority of God's written Word."
---Mark_V. on 12/29/07


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Everyday, people want nothing more then to get Christian's to doubt their faith by doubting the Authenticity of Scripture. Scripture is the "Inspired Word of God" Jesus Himself said so. In order to believe Scripture to be true, you need to be alive to Christ and believe in Him. Jesus taught that God was the Originator of the Hebrew Testament. He quoted as authoritative or authentic the Hebrew canon. He considered almost all sections to be prophetic of Him, (Luke 24:27, 44).
---Mark_V. on 12/29/07


#2. Jesus also believed that inspiration extended from Genesis through the whole of Scripture. He asserted that the Old Testament as a whole was unbreakable Scripture (John 10:35), that it would never parish (Matt. 5:18), and that it must be fulfilled (Luke 24:44). He personally authenticated persons and events from Eden (Matt. 19:5), to Jonah in the "Whale" (Matt. 12:40), including Daniel the prophet (Matt. 24:15), Noah and the flood (Luke 17:27), and the destruction of Sodom (Luke 17:29).
---Mark_V. on 12/29/07


#3. Jesus not only defined the limits of the canon, but He laid down the principles of Canonicity, namely, the canon consists of that which is the "Word of God." To illustrate this, Jesus referencs to the Old Testament as the "Word of God" (Mark 7:13), as that which "God said" (Matt. 19:5), or as that which was uttered by "the Spirit" (Matt. 22:43, Mark 12:36). As for the New Testament, Jesus promised that the Holy Spirit
---Mark_V. on 12/29/07


No, the Bible does not contradict itself. The Word of God is total and complete Truth. Truths are revealed to persons as they are able to comprehend what the Spirit is teaching them. God reveals or shows different facets of Himself. It is such a beautiful thing. A huge puzzle put together a piece at a time until "we will behold Him face to face" and see Him as He is. Then "we will know as we are known". I cannot wait!
---Diana on 12/26/07


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Since the Bible is the word of God The statements are NOT contradictoryGod is Truth & Perfect.
---Emcee on 12/26/07


Beliving like I do could cause Satan to come down on you like a ton of bricks! It's happened to me and my associates. You see, Satan does not give a whim about people who belive in and practice lies. He knows his time is short. He hates those who hurt him the most by presenting real truth. I have much food (spiritual truth) but the time is not here yet to dish it out. (Matt.24:45) What I present here is just a pinch to make one hunger for more.
---Dr._Rich on 12/25/07


Mankind's knowledge has not caught up to the Bible.Things are still being reveavled. Many of these so called contadictions are lack of: understanding cultural idioms of the time, studying Hebrew mindset, translators adding words to give meaning for modern times which causes a loss to us today. Taking a look from the messianic perspective shows the Bible an eternal document without errors to them that have been chosen to understand. seeing they may not see and hearing they may not hear Luke 8:12
---yochanon on 12/24/07


An examination of the Bible is necessary today because of the many questions being raised.

Today, there are thousands of different versions of the Bible in circulation and the transcript has been freely translated from one language to another numerous times. According to Bible scholars themselves, the original scripture is no longer extant. It is nowhere to be found.
---Sheila on 12/22/07


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Since many extreme Christians use the concept that a prophet cannot be Gods prophet if he be wrong in a single instance, is that the same standard for the bible? If so, it seems a waste to throw the whole thing out just because of a few errors here and there. Though I may not be like most christians, I do see that a truly christian society is better for men than most societies offered under other religions. Lets not be blind to the truth, nor throw the baby out with the bath water.
---stephen on 12/20/07


Dr. Rich, thanks for the info. My question for you is, how would my life improve if I were to believe as you believe? What makes your belief system superior?
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/20/07


To answer the question of knowing about Bet Emet Ministries, yes, but not much. 'Our' ministry is 'Spirit of Truth Ministry'. We have a book called "THE SPIRIT OF THE CHURCH". We broadcast live Sabbath studies over internet and have been meeting twice a week for about 15 years. We are independent but use the bible, science, history and archology in our search for truth. None of us are pastors or teachers. We just wanted to know the truth. However, we do agree with "THE WAY".
---Dr._Rich on 12/20/07


Doc Rich, the website citing the Clementine source is interesting, but I don't think it will appeal to many whose credulity does not lean in that direction.
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/19/07


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Atheist,
The word of God may appear to contradict itself when viewed in part or through the natural eye.
When viewed as brought forth by the Spirit, precept upon precept and line upon line it never does.
The old testament fortelling Jesus in every scripture by the Spirit and the new testament verifying the old testament prophesies as revealed by the Spirit.
Seek salvation in Christ and allow the Spirit to shew you.
Frank
---Frank on 12/19/07


I'll be bold, I don't believe you are a messenger.
I believe you're fearful and need to hide yourself because you are not legitimate.

I say this in love, I think you really, really want to be a prophetess. But with the spirit you're operating out of now, it's one of deception and that's not God.
That's control and manipulation.
---lovable_linda on 12/19/07


Dr. Rich, your blogs are really interesting. Are you familiar with Bet Emet Ministries? (I gave you a vote!)
---InimicusStultitiae on 12/19/07


Dr. Rich, you're the one in hiding.
It's cowardly, and I'm confronting the cowardly, condemning tone that's been on here for a very long time.
That condemnation that mocks others, uses their names, and lies like a rug.
---lovable_linda on 12/19/07


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There are some misinterpretations, theories,
and lack of knowledge concerning bible
translation that may have given you the thoughts of contradiction.But as a whole what we should know about God,and how to be in unity with God as a SAVED INDIVIDUAL...
IS COMPLETED THEREIN.SOME SAY GOD SAID this and that,when they were never told by Him to say it.Read Ezk.22 v 28.
AND furthermore,as it is written in Eph.3v5
that in other ages this knowledge was not known.
---Jack_8773 on 12/19/07


If attacking a messenger and not the message is all you can do Linda, then no one will ever get anywhere. All one has to do is go to youtube and search for false apostle and see for yourself. Google 'Clementine Homily 17:19'. Please do your own research. We are condemned by the words we speak or write. Matt.12:36-37
---Dr._Rich on 12/19/07


Dr. Rich, Dr. Whisper - you're not really a doctor. A nutty professor, perhaps.
---lovable_linda on 12/19/07


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