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How do you convince a Christian man that wearing the magnetic bracelets doesn't do anything in regards to healing or keeping them healed and keeping away evil spirits?

Moderator - Those are New Age pagan practices and one will find no example of a Christian ever doing such a thing. However, within paganism there are plenty of examples. Ask him if he is a Christian or a pagan.

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...plants you listed are used to keep the body healthy, but are not considered medicine.
---Steveng on 5/19/15

During the 4 surgery's I've endured and dental work. I appreciate a GOD knew a future need and directed the person that discovered. That GOD blessed the work of the factory that made Pk's available and affordable. From whatever plant, gas, mineral, synthetic or otherwise they procured the pain relievers from.
One see's GOD's blessings on everyone if he looks. It's not our personal achievement, that we are able to send a Hospital ship to a far corner global emergency with the most modern equipment and supplies. We even endure the cost without complaint. Blessed as a people and sharing the overflowing cup.
---Trav on 5/21/15


Steveng:

You said: So, does that mean that christians today are weak that they depend upon plants and man's medicines instead of God? Jesus said "ask and it shall be given," and it's written that christians can do greater miracles than Jesus.

By the same reasoning, are we so weak that we eat fish and rice and other produce that the earth produces, rather than praying for God to send a roast duck flying into our mouths (see previous post)? Yet Jesus never told us to abandon earthly toil and earthly gifts. Paul said "He who will not work, should not eat" NOT "He who will no do miracles should not eat".
---StrongAxe on 5/20/15


"And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for MEDICINE. Ezekiel 47:12

Medicine in Biblical times, started with plant matter. Figs to heal boils, mandrake to help with fertility and many others.

ALL medicine began with the use of God given plants. If anyone prefers to remain ill and just die then they might face God and hear Him say "Why did you ignore those things I gave you?"
---Rita_H on 5/20/15


Rita_H wrote: "Plants ARE God's medicine."

What plants did Jesus and the Apostles use to heal all manners of sickness? Wasn't it just their faith that healed them?

Sure, the plants you listed are used to keep the body healthy, but are not considered medicine.
---Steveng on 5/19/15


The bible tells us that God gave us these things for specific purposes so He expects us to use them rather than always expecting Him to heal us miraculously. We shun His gifts at our own cost.
---Rita_H on 5/18/15

Plants are used daily like you say to heal us and give us energy. Corn, Potatoes, Tomatoes, Beans, Peas, Carrots, etc.
Nothing wrong with utilizing what GOD gave us. For the intended purposes of course.
---Trav on 5/19/15




Learner 2 - not remotely like Schristian Science.

Stepheng 'So, does that mean that christians today are weak that they depend upon plants and man's medicines instead of God?'

Plants ARE God's medicine.

If you wish to go through life without ever eating cabbage, lettuce, tomato, potato, rutaga, apple, pear or anything else which the bible tells us were given for man's use then go ahead. You'll soon need a doctor (which could have been avoided if you used those gifts from God). Your comments are an insult to God's creation. Read Genesis.
---Rita_H on 5/19/15


Sounds like Mary Baker Eddy's Christian Science.
---learner2 on 5/18/15


So, does that mean that christians today are weak that they depend upon plants and man's medicines instead of God? Jesus said "ask and it shall be given," and it's written that christians can do greater miracles than Jesus.
---Steveng on 5/18/15


Steveng We depend on God when we use natural ingredients because we believe His Word. He has given us plants for specific healing purposes and others for food, some being used for both but all are His gifts.

Many medicines were made from natural plants but are now synthesized in labs. Plants gave us dyes but we now have artificial colours and food colourings. We can now buy lemon, orange, peppermint etc. flavourings but used to use the real plants in days gone by...and we wonder why so many people have bad reactions to them.

The bible tells us that God gave us these things for specific purposes so He expects us to use them rather than always expecting Him to heal us miraculously. We shun His gifts at our own cost.
---Rita_H on 5/18/15


Steveng:

You wrote: While man has always used earthly plants (Ezekiel 47:12) and things to heal is it depending more upon the created than the creator to get healed?

There is an old Chinese proverb: Man wait long time with open mouth, waiting for roast duck to fly in.

If we're hungry, we can pray to God to fly a roast duck into our mouths - or we can go and fix a sandwich (which is much more likely to work). God put all kinds of plants and animals and minerals and other things in this world for us to use to our advantage. It would be foolish to reject them all, settling for nothing less than divine intervention for every single thing we do.
---StrongAxe on 5/17/15




Trav 'I'd have shopped at your store with my wife any day of the week.' If I'd had a store I would have been delighted to meet you both.

However, I actually had a clinic where I gave treatments. The only selling of products I did was if a patient requested a bottle of the blend I'd used for them in the treatment so that they could continue using it at home. I was always happy to blend one for them - but only after they'd waited a few days to ensure there was no adverse reaction to my choice of oils. Some oils are not suitable for some individuals and, although much discussion goes on before treatment regarding allergies etc. it is wise to wait a few days after the first session.
---Rita_H on 5/17/15


The living God richly supplies us with all things to enjoy and use. Genesis 1:29, 1 Timothy 6:17 God even clothed Adam and Eve.

While man has always used earthly plants (Ezekiel 47:12) and things to heal is it depending more upon the created than the creator to get healed?
---Steveng on 5/17/15


Peter you seem to have totally misunderstood what I am saying. Of course I use many things that are man-made e.g. nylon, polyester because they don't need ironing but boy oh boy they certainly make you perspire which does not happen with pure wool and pure cotton. BTW to say "Even then, you picked it, so there is still some 'man made' there." is utterly ridiculous. Picking grain is human involvement not man-made, similar to going to the shop to buy something. Nothing lands on our table all by itself. You really have lost the plot on this one. If you have any real interest in where I am coming from (rather than just enjoying the argument) scroll down to where I mention 'a wart charmer' and maybe you'll catch on.
---Rita_H on 5/16/15


StrongAxe, thank you. That was my point exactly. Just because something is pagan and origin does not make it evil.
---learner2 on 5/16/15


learner2:

You said: You might know that it is also wrong to wear wedding rings since they are rooted in paganism too.

By that reasoning, wearing a crucifix is also a sin, because crucifixion was a pagan Roman practice.
---StrongAxe on 5/15/15


Rita H: 'I will go for God-made rather than man-made.'

But, Rita, your statement says very little...... The things God made are only the natural things that man never adjusted. Do you eat bread? God made the wheat, then man made the wheat into bread. Is that God made or man-made. Actually, it is both.

If you want God made only, you will have to go out in the fields, pick grain and eat is straight from the plant.

Even then, you picked it, so there is still some 'man made' there.
---Peter on 5/16/15


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\\How do you convince a Christian man that wearing the magnetic bracelets doesn't do anything in regards to healing or keeping them healed and keeping away evil spirits?
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Only if it's your bracelet on your own arm are you in a position to do anything about it.

MYOB, dearie.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/16/15


We should never underestimate what God can do with those things He gave us to use and we should not call EVIL anything that HE made. It is the person's 'way' of using them which is, sometimes, evil.
---Rita_H on 5/15/15

Natural remedies are great. Don't see what the heck a magnet could hurt either. The whole earth has a magnetic field.
I'd of shopped at your store with my wife any day of the week.
---Trav on 5/15/15


You might know that it is also wrong to wear wedding rings since they are rooted in paganism too.
---learner2 on 5/15/15


Samuelbb I never said that they kept away evil spirits. Please read carefully what I DID say.

I am certain that GOD can heal anything HE chooses to heal using those things which HE created (even magnets) and HE can heal by just saying "let it be so". He told Hezekiah to make a poultice of figs. Some Christians say that herbalism is evil. Herbs are plants just as a fig tree is a plant - 100% God made. Satan created nothing.

We should never underestimate what God can do with those things He gave us to use and we should not call EVIL anything that HE made. It is the person's 'way' of using them which is, sometimes, evil.
---Rita_H on 5/15/15


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Rita Creams and ointments may have healing properties. But they do not keep away evil spirits. Nor does magnetism heal people. Except for the placebo effect.

Sadly many people who call themselves Christians do not know the Bible or follow it.

We need to teach people about the Bible and hopefully they will follow it and not pagan practices.

On Christ the solid rock I stand.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/15/15


I answered this in 2006 and will again now. I will go for God-made rather than man-made.

I gave Darlene a lot of advice about aromatherapy some time ago. That therapy is called evil by many Christians yet, when I ran my own clinic most of my patients/clients were Christians. I've said it before but will repeat:- My doctor recommended a wart charmer when my daughter had many verrucae on her feet. I made a cream containing essential oil of lemon for her and they all went. I just used something grown by God in HIS soil.

God made copper and magnets and herbs used by herbalists as well as plants used by pharmacist (digitalis for example) We insult Him to ignore them.
---Rita_H on 5/13/15


Dear bloggers and Moderator! I agree with the Moderator, the magnetic bracelet is pagan rooted :).The magnetic bracelet has no healing powers at all. It's all about Jesus who is so awesome! Only Jesus can heal but sin keeps people in bondage, unbelief is the root cause, the opposite of faith. See Proverbs 14:30 about envy, it is the root of rottenness of the bones and 1 Peter 2:1, laying aside all envy. Our personal journey each day with the Lord allows us not to be so sinful, day by day. We all need to walk in grace and seek mercy from our Father through Jesus for healing to all parts of our body. Read Romans 9:15, Hebrews 8:7-12, Jeremiah 31:31 and Psalm 103:1-3. Praise God everyday. Our God is awesome, Blessings :)
---CJ_Lynn on 5/12/15


I agree with the Moderator, the man is believing in bunko, mere bunk.
---Eloy on 6/22/08


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RitaH ... You are so right!
There are many things which were discovered by non Christians or non Jews
Herbs abd spices came from non-Jewish places, and the Jews traded with non-Jews for them.
Rice was not growwn in Biblical lands ... so it as first used by followers of other gods. Should be eschew it?
,
---alan_of_UK on 6/21/08


Moderator "The point is should Christians associate with known New Age toys." What is it about a magnetic bracelet or a copper bracelet that make them 'new age toys'. No one but God made copper and magnets in just the same way that He made potatoes, lavender, nettles etc. It has taken man a long time to find the wonderful uses of some of the gifts from God, some things they discovered earlier than others but we should not call something evil just because the first people to discover the benefits of a certain thing were evil themselves. Gifts from God are all good regardless of who was first to discover the benefits thereof.
---RitaH on 6/20/08


Moderator- he is sure he's a Christian, although I am not so sure. But He insists he is. What now? He thinks it's okay. His son recently died of cancer at 36 yrs old because they believed the hollistic cleansings would heal him because they did the first time, but the second time he died this past February. Why doesn't he get it?

Moderator - Ask him why he believes he is a Christian. Ask him to show you with scripture how the practice is Biblical. Most people in the New Age movement will tell you they are Christian, however you need to ask why and take it from there.
---Donna9759 on 6/20/08


Why dont you just let the man alone and let GOD be the JUDGE
---Jodi on 6/30/06


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Linda I agree with all you say about this being a creation of God. Moderator where in the bible does it say that pagans made copper or magnets etc? I buy, from a chemist, small sticky plasters which each have a small magnet in the centre. They are wonderful for rheumatic pain and migraine and cause no problems - unlike the prescription the doctor used to give me.
---f.f. on 5/9/06


2.What we should remember is that Christians were using many of these things long before the so-called new-agers were born. Christians do sometimes get involved in things that they shouldnt, we all know that, but I think we should be very wary of making ourselves judge and jury over what is of God and what is of the devil. I think that God must sometimes weep when He hears us call evil some of the things that He has given for our good.

Moderator - Most Christians have the opposite problem today in that they think evil is good because of all the false teachings. New Age isn't from Christianity, it's from the Eastern religions such as Hindus.
---M.P. on 5/6/06


1. There is actually nothing at all that is NEW in new age beliefs. These people take from many religions just the bits they like (discarding the remainder) and put these bits together to form their own 'religion'. They have also 'borrowed' certain tried and tested, GOD GIVEN, complementary therapies which were discovered centuries earlier. Sadly we now refer to New Agers as being people who are involved in only evil or pagan practices and, therefore, say Christians should have no part in these things.
---M.P. on 5/6/06


Nicely said emg. It's not what the "trinkets" bring to the person, it's what the person brings to the "trinket"!
---Fred_S. on 5/5/06


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I think some people are too wrapped up in thinking that they can recognise a pagan because of visuals. Can we recognise Christian because of a fish, cross, church attendance, modest dress? No we can't because non-Christians do all these things also, so let's not say someone is evil because they wear a bracelet (for health or adornment) which is sometimes worn by pagans as a religious tool. We assume too much about each other and should perhaps say nothing until we know more about them as individuals.

Moderator - The point is should Christians associate with known New Age toys.
---emg on 5/5/06


2. Just because we do not know the reasons YET is no reason to label them EVIL. I also inhale essential oils (natural plant extracts) to help migraine. Some Christians call those evil also. The painkillers (made from chemicals in a lab made me quite ill). Many Christians are so busy seeing evil in all things that they are totally missing the good gifts of God.

Moderator - I prefer natural and organic products everyday of the week over the lab stuff. However, this topic is specifically the copper bracelet issue.
---M.P. on 5/5/06


1. Moderator, what qualifies you to say that this is a placebo? We use techniques these days which would have been considered witch-craft a couple of centuries ago (if they had existed to be discussed) e.g. Xrays, blood examinations, smear tests etc. We never stop learning and I, for one, believe that science will catch up EVENTUALLY and the reasons why magnets and copper can help muscular and joint pains will be discovered.

Moderator - Do a search on medical related websites not New Age sites and draw your own conclusions. It is always possible that the medical professionals are missing something and only you know in your specific case whether you are being helped.
---M.P. on 5/5/06


Moderator - I am born-again and Spirit-filled and I wear a magnetic bracelet simply because I like it - it is a piece of jewellery for me...I do not believe that magnets can do anything for the human body. Is that wrong?

Moderator - You will have to make that determination. I personally would not do it because of the heavy New Age connotations.
---Helen_5378 on 5/4/06


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Mod you say "however one needs to understand that from a medical prospective the bracelet doesn't help as it is no more than a placebo". Actually, placebos do works sometimes!
---alan8869_of_UK on 5/4/06


In this case 1 pill (human remedy) plus 1 pill (another human remedy) equals 1,675 symptoms because her body can no longer handle the chemicals and probably no longer even recognizes the natural bodily chemicals.
---Linda6563 on 5/4/06


My mother is a good example of someone on so many medications that the side effects caused by some of them are causing the same problems that are supposed to be taken care of by the others. She takes a pill for high blood sugar and she follows all the diet rules and exercises, yet her blood sugar won't come down because of all the other medications she is on.
---Linda6563 on 5/4/06


"Where in the Bible does it say to wear a bracelet to ward off evil?"

No one I know of who uses copper or magnetic bracelets use them to ward off evil. They use them as natural medicine in the place of all the chemical synthetic stuff that produces more symptoms than there are pills to handle.

Moderator - Your friends may not be New Agers nor may your friends be medical doctors.
---Linda6563 on 5/4/06


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The Bible does say, "The earth is His and the fullness thereof." Can't get much plainer than that. Now if pagans made the magnetic field or produced copper out of nothing, then I would have no choice but to agree.

Moderator - God made people. Can we start killing people now because God made them? Not to poke fun, but that wasn't a logical statement.
---Linda6563 on 5/4/06


Linda, I believe it's because it's the reason why he's wearing it, not the bracelet itself. It's the belief behind why he's wearing it. He's looking to the bracelet as a means to keep him healed. That's not biblical and I know you know that . Luv ya sis!
---Donna on 5/4/06


Moderator, with respect I must say that most things in life are what people make of them. To some people a particular bracelet might be a spiritual tool, to others a method of pain relief. I can apply God's blessing to the same thing that another person might use for totally different reasons. God gave us EVERYTHING and we will choose to use his gifts for good or evil. That some people use them for evil gives us no right to call the gifts themselves evil. To do so insults God.

Moderator - I don't know how a bracelet used to ward off evil spirits could ever be called good. If the bracelet is used for a medical reason, that is a different use, however one needs to understand that from a medical prospective the bracelet doesn't help as it is no more than a placebo.
---M.P. on 5/4/06


Why does a pagan using something of God's creation automatically define it as pagan? Why can't the fact that a Christian uses it automatically define it as being of God? After all, before a pagan ever used it, God created it. It is God's first and foremost and the fact that it is should be what defines its use.

Moderator - The Bible sets the standard. Where in the Bible does it say to wear a bracelet to ward off evil? It doesn't because that is the way of the pagans.
---Linda6563 on 5/4/06


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M.P. He wears the bracelet because he feels it's keeping him healthy. He's the same CHRISTIAN man who made his son do hollistic cleanses because his son had cancer and they worked for 2 years. This past Feb his son died and he swore "They will work." The bracelet to him means it's keeping him healthy. He still has evil spirits (severe resentment in his heart and severe unforgiveness towards some relatives).
---Donna9759 on 5/4/06


M.P. There is a difference between using a bracelet for medicinal purposes vs. "keeping away evil spirits".
---chris on 5/4/06


Donna, the Moderator is right. Find out how much he reads the Bible. If he doesnt read it much then I think you have your answer. Although, sometimes it is harder to get a person to read their Bible than trying to convince them that things like magic bracelets are ungodly.
---chris on 5/4/06


2. Many who take aspirin or ibuprofen for joint pains end up with a stomach ulcer, others find the drugs help without side effects. It was only just over 100 years ago that scientists discovered germs. They could not believe that tiny things too small to see could be responsible for horrific deaths. We continue to learn about everything and to call anything that we do not fully understand EVIL or NEW AGE or PAGAN is folly and we will one day have to
answer to God for calling his creations 'of the devil'.

Moderator - An aspirin isn't used as a spiritual tool; it is a drug or medication.
---M.P. on 5/4/06


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1. Moderator, show me with scripture that it is biblical to take aspirin. Donna do you know for certain that he wears this bracelet 'to keep away evil spirits' or could he be wearing it because it eases his arthritic pains perhaps? I think we should be very careful in stating that things made by God are evil. I wear both a copper and a magnetic bracelet at times. I see no wrong in this and thank God that the things He has put in the ground for us to find can be so effective.

Moderator - You may not be familiar M.P. that type of bracelet is associated and used by the New Age movement as one of their spiritual tools. No, Christians shouldn't be using pagans spiritual tools.
---M.P. on 5/4/06


There is nothing scriptural about putting faith into material objects. This would be considered idolatry. We as Christians put our faith in Christ not material objects.
---Lori on 5/4/06


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