Bracelet To Ward Off Evil
How do you convince a Christian man that wearing the magnetic bracelets doesn't do anything in regards to healing or keeping them healed and keeping away evil spirits?
Moderator - Those are New Age pagan practices and one will find no example of a Christian ever doing such a thing. However, within paganism there are plenty of examples. Ask him if he is a Christian or a pagan.
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---Donna on 5/4/06
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I agree with the Moderator, the man is believing in bunko, mere bunk. |
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---Eloy on 6/22/08 |
RitaH ... You are so right!
There are many things which were discovered by non Christians or non Jews
Herbs abd spices came from non-Jewish places, and the Jews traded with non-Jews for them.
Rice was not growwn in Biblical lands ... so it as first used by followers of other gods. Should be eschew it?
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---alan_of_UK on 6/21/08 |
Moderator "The point is should Christians associate with known New Age toys." What is it about a magnetic bracelet or a copper bracelet that make them 'new age toys'. No one but God made copper and magnets in just the same way that He made potatoes, lavender, nettles etc. It has taken man a long time to find the wonderful uses of some of the gifts from God, some things they discovered earlier than others but we should not call something evil just because the first people to discover the benefits of a certain thing were evil themselves. Gifts from God are all good regardless of who was first to discover the benefits thereof. |
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---RitaH on 6/20/08 |
Moderator- he is sure he's a Christian, although I am not so sure. But He insists he is. What now? He thinks it's okay. His son recently died of cancer at 36 yrs old because they believed the hollistic cleansings would heal him because they did the first time, but the second time he died this past February. Why doesn't he get it?
Moderator - Ask him why he believes he is a Christian. Ask him to show you with scripture how the practice is Biblical. Most people in the New Age movement will tell you they are Christian, however you need to ask why and take it from there. |
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---Donna9759 on 6/20/08 |
Why dont you just let the man alone and let GOD be the JUDGE |
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---Jodi on 6/30/06 |
Linda I agree with all you say about this being a creation of God. Moderator where in the bible does it say that pagans made copper or magnets etc? I buy, from a chemist, small sticky plasters which each have a small magnet in the centre. They are wonderful for rheumatic pain and migraine and cause no problems - unlike the prescription the doctor used to give me. |
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---f.f. on 5/9/06 |
2.What we should remember is that Christians were using many of these things long before the so-called new-agers were born. Christians do sometimes get involved in things that they shouldnt, we all know that, but I think we should be very wary of making ourselves judge and jury over what is of God and what is of the devil. I think that God must sometimes weep when He hears us call evil some of the things that He has given for our good.
Moderator - Most Christians have the opposite problem today in that they think evil is good because of all the false teachings. New Age isn't from Christianity, it's from the Eastern religions such as Hindus. |
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---M.P. on 5/6/06 |
1. There is actually nothing at all that is NEW in new age beliefs. These people take from many religions just the bits they like (discarding the remainder) and put these bits together to form their own 'religion'. They have also 'borrowed' certain tried and tested, GOD GIVEN, complementary therapies which were discovered centuries earlier. Sadly we now refer to New Agers as being people who are involved in only evil or pagan practices and, therefore, say Christians should have no part in these things. |
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---M.P. on 5/6/06 |
Nicely said emg. It's not what the "trinkets" bring to the person, it's what the person brings to the "trinket"! |
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---Fred_S. on 5/5/06 |
I think some people are too wrapped up in thinking that they can recognise a pagan because of visuals. Can we recognise Christian because of a fish, cross, church attendance, modest dress? No we can't because non-Christians do all these things also, so let's not say someone is evil because they wear a bracelet (for health or adornment) which is sometimes worn by pagans as a religious tool. We assume too much about each other and should perhaps say nothing until we know more about them as individuals.
Moderator - The point is should Christians associate with known New Age toys. |
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---emg on 5/5/06 |
2. Just because we do not know the reasons YET is no reason to label them EVIL. I also inhale essential oils (natural plant extracts) to help migraine. Some Christians call those evil also. The painkillers (made from chemicals in a lab made me quite ill). Many Christians are so busy seeing evil in all things that they are totally missing the good gifts of God.
Moderator - I prefer natural and organic products everyday of the week over the lab stuff. However, this topic is specifically the copper bracelet issue. |
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---M.P. on 5/5/06 |
1. Moderator, what qualifies you to say that this is a placebo? We use techniques these days which would have been considered witch-craft a couple of centuries ago (if they had existed to be discussed) e.g. Xrays, blood examinations, smear tests etc. We never stop learning and I, for one, believe that science will catch up EVENTUALLY and the reasons why magnets and copper can help muscular and joint pains will be discovered.
Moderator - Do a search on medical related websites not New Age sites and draw your own conclusions. It is always possible that the medical professionals are missing something and only you know in your specific case whether you are being helped. |
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---M.P. on 5/5/06 |
Moderator - I am born-again and Spirit-filled and I wear a magnetic bracelet simply because I like it - it is a piece of jewellery for me...I do not believe that magnets can do anything for the human body. Is that wrong?
Moderator - You will have to make that determination. I personally would not do it because of the heavy New Age connotations. |
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---Helen_5378 on 5/4/06 |
Mod you say "however one needs to understand that from a medical prospective the bracelet doesn't help as it is no more than a placebo". Actually, placebos do works sometimes! |
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---alan8869_of_UK on 5/4/06 |
In this case 1 pill (human remedy) plus 1 pill (another human remedy) equals 1,675 symptoms because her body can no longer handle the chemicals and probably no longer even recognizes the natural bodily chemicals. |
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---Linda6563 on 5/4/06 |
My mother is a good example of someone on so many medications that the side effects caused by some of them are causing the same problems that are supposed to be taken care of by the others. She takes a pill for high blood sugar and she follows all the diet rules and exercises, yet her blood sugar won't come down because of all the other medications she is on. |
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---Linda6563 on 5/4/06 |
"Where in the Bible does it say to wear a bracelet to ward off evil?"
No one I know of who uses copper or magnetic bracelets use them to ward off evil. They use them as natural medicine in the place of all the chemical synthetic stuff that produces more symptoms than there are pills to handle.
Moderator - Your friends may not be New Agers nor may your friends be medical doctors. |
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---Linda6563 on 5/4/06 |
The Bible does say, "The earth is His and the fullness thereof." Can't get much plainer than that. Now if pagans made the magnetic field or produced copper out of nothing, then I would have no choice but to agree.
Moderator - God made people. Can we start killing people now because God made them? Not to poke fun, but that wasn't a logical statement. |
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---Linda6563 on 5/4/06 |
Linda, I believe it's because it's the reason why he's wearing it, not the bracelet itself. It's the belief behind why he's wearing it. He's looking to the bracelet as a means to keep him healed. That's not biblical and I know you know that . Luv ya sis! |
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---Donna on 5/4/06 |
Moderator, with respect I must say that most things in life are what people make of them. To some people a particular bracelet might be a spiritual tool, to others a method of pain relief. I can apply God's blessing to the same thing that another person might use for totally different reasons. God gave us EVERYTHING and we will choose to use his gifts for good or evil. That some people use them for evil gives us no right to call the gifts themselves evil. To do so insults God.
Moderator - I don't know how a bracelet used to ward off evil spirits could ever be called good. If the bracelet is used for a medical reason, that is a different use, however one needs to understand that from a medical prospective the bracelet doesn't help as it is no more than a placebo. |
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---M.P. on 5/4/06 |
Why does a pagan using something of God's creation automatically define it as pagan? Why can't the fact that a Christian uses it automatically define it as being of God? After all, before a pagan ever used it, God created it. It is God's first and foremost and the fact that it is should be what defines its use.
Moderator - The Bible sets the standard. Where in the Bible does it say to wear a bracelet to ward off evil? It doesn't because that is the way of the pagans. |
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---Linda6563 on 5/4/06 |
M.P. He wears the bracelet because he feels it's keeping him healthy. He's the same CHRISTIAN man who made his son do hollistic cleanses because his son had cancer and they worked for 2 years. This past Feb his son died and he swore "They will work." The bracelet to him means it's keeping him healthy. He still has evil spirits (severe resentment in his heart and severe unforgiveness towards some relatives). |
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---Donna9759 on 5/4/06 |
M.P. There is a difference between using a bracelet for medicinal purposes vs. "keeping away evil spirits". |
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---chris on 5/4/06 |
Donna, the Moderator is right. Find out how much he reads the Bible. If he doesnt read it much then I think you have your answer. Although, sometimes it is harder to get a person to read their Bible than trying to convince them that things like magic bracelets are ungodly. |
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---chris on 5/4/06 |
2. Many who take aspirin or ibuprofen for joint pains end up with a stomach ulcer, others find the drugs help without side effects. It was only just over 100 years ago that scientists discovered germs. They could not believe that tiny things too small to see could be responsible for horrific deaths. We continue to learn about everything and to call anything that we do not fully understand EVIL or NEW AGE or PAGAN is folly and we will one day have to
answer to God for calling his creations 'of the devil'.
Moderator - An aspirin isn't used as a spiritual tool; it is a drug or medication. |
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---M.P. on 5/4/06 |
1. Moderator, show me with scripture that it is biblical to take aspirin. Donna do you know for certain that he wears this bracelet 'to keep away evil spirits' or could he be wearing it because it eases his arthritic pains perhaps? I think we should be very careful in stating that things made by God are evil. I wear both a copper and a magnetic bracelet at times. I see no wrong in this and thank God that the things He has put in the ground for us to find can be so effective.
Moderator - You may not be familiar M.P. that type of bracelet is associated and used by the New Age movement as one of their spiritual tools. No, Christians shouldn't be using pagans spiritual tools. |
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---M.P. on 5/4/06 |
There is nothing scriptural about putting faith into material objects. This would be considered idolatry. We as Christians put our faith in Christ not material objects. |
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---Lori on 5/4/06 |
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