ChristiaNet MallWorld's Largest Christian MallChristian BlogsFree Bible QuizzesFree Ecards and Free Greeting CardsLoans, Debt, Business and Insurance Articles

Location Of The Anti-Christ

Will the Anti-Christ come out of Europe, Islam, USA or Rome and why?

Join Our Christian Friendship and Take The Apostasy Bible Quiz
 ---Barbara on 5/8/06
     Helpful Blog Vote (12)

Post a New Blog



Aka- to sling mud and run for cover in the way you have in your comments 2/5/12 here is nothing but 'guttersnipe' mentality.

Saying the Watchtower society has changed its doctrine without giving any evidence for your claim makes your assertion baseless and without any credibility whatsoever. You're just a cheap mud slinger.

Why should I abandon the Bible and embrace the antichrist-trinity doctrine? Neither you nor strongaxe can show where Jesus was both spirit being and 'in the flesh' at the same time.
---David8318 on 2/6/12


'I did not say the Bible said "Jesus was spirit in the flesh" anywhere.' Strongaxe, 2/6/12.

I did not say you said 'Jesus was spirit in the flesh' anywhere! You're not reading the question correctly.

You've already agreed trinitarians believe Jesus "was BOTH flesh and spirit" (your comments 2/1/12). But the Bible doesn't say this. John said Jesus came 'in the flesh'. Anyone not confessing this truth is 'antichrist'.

I've been constantly asking you to prove where in the Bible it teaches Jesus "was BOTH flesh and spirit". You can't because it doesn't. The only way you can understand this happening at the same time is drawing comparisons with demonic possession.
---David8318 on 2/6/12


Strongaxe- I will continue to believe what the Bible teaches.

You will continue to believe as the rest of "Christendom" force you to believe. You are forced because you have yet to show scripturally where Jesus Christ was BOTH a spirit being and 'in the flesh' at the same time.

I on the other hand I have shown where Jesus was simply 'in the flesh'- nothing else, as John stated. Anything beyond this is antichrist teaching.

It is your arrogance and false assumption that all Christians believe the same way you do. And it is your false assumption that Jesus was both spirit creature and flesh.
---David8318 on 2/6/12


'the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him'." Char did not say that, aka did.
---Chria9396 on 2/5/12

chria, aka did not say that, God did.

(but, to be confused with char is a good thing, no!? :~)

chria, it does not matter what we say to some. the watchtower society would have to change it's doctrine as it has many times in just 150 years. david8318 is only being a good JW (or else!)
---aka on 2/5/12


David8318:

You will continue to believe what your Jehovah's Witnesses believe, contrary to what all Christians everywhere else (and all Christians down throughout the ages) have always believed. Logic cannot prevail aginst faith, whether that faith is correct or incorrect.
---StrongAxe on 2/5/12




God's spirit inspiring someone didn't make that person a spirit being and thus spirit and in the flesh at the same time. That person was still flesh. Neither did it make that person 'God'.

Evil spirit and demonic possession didn't make people spirit beings either. The evil spirit being was one creature, the possessed person another- there was/is a dichotomy of individuals in that instance in the sense that when the evil spirit was cast out, the fleshly person carried on his own normal life.

Strongaxe is grasping at straws and cannot prove Christ was simultaneously BOTH spirit being and in the flesh using scripture, only through his fallacious reasonings.
---David8318 on 2/5/12


David8318 on 2/5/12 "Char says, 'the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him'." Char did not say that, aka did.
---Chria9396 on 2/5/12


Ruben, on 2/3/12 you wrote, "some trinitarian Bible's erroneously say 'God was manifest in the flesh'- 1 Tim.3:16." Have to disagree with you. That translation is not erroneous. It sets a standard against which many false translations [such as the RSV, NIV and ESV] dash themselves like the waves of the ocean against the Rock of Gibraltar. Think about it: why would anyone wish to remove a reference PROVING that the Son of God is INDEED God [the Son], unless they didn't believe [or want others to believe] that Jesus was indeed God?
---Fenrisulfr on 2/5/12


David8318:

I did not say the Bible said "Jesus was spirit in the flesh" anywhere. YOU claim that being a spirit, and being in the flesh are mutually exclusive. I showed that this assumption is not true, as there are several different cases of spirits of one kind or other being "in the flesh" (God's spirit inspiring some, God's spirit descending at Jesus's baptism, evil spirits in possessed people, evil spirits entering Saul and Judas, etc.)

So, since there are many cases where it happens to others, you can't say that it couldn't happen with Jesus.
---StrongAxe on 2/5/12


I knew it wouldn't be too long before trinitarians reveal the true antichrist nature of their trinity doctrine.

Strongaxe compares Jesus' existence with demon possession, and Char says, 'the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him'.

So obviously trinitarians believe God possessed someone who got baptized by John in the Jordan River! That's how trinitarians reason Jesus was both a spirit being and 'in the flesh' at the same time.

I revert back to what John stated regarding this matter when he said, 'For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist'- 2 John 7.
---David8318 on 2/5/12




//So where does the Bible say Jesus was a spirit 'in the flesh' in the same way the demonic spirits were 'in the flesh'?// david

again, words presented will not matter to someone who is not allowed to reason on his own.

but, i present to those who can hear (and think):

Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
Mat 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.



---aka on 2/4/12


David, you don't believe because you have a theological bias already. Jesus had a human flesh and God's Spirit. Something you reject. Read (Phil. 2:6-11) look up the words in the Grk. And you will know the Truth. Paul tells us He was God in spirit. Paul chose a term that stresses the essence of a person's nature-His continuous state or condition. Paul chose the term that specifically denotes the essential, unchanging character of something, that of God's who is Himself Spirit. "who being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. A being found in appearance as a man" Form of God and man.
---Mark_V. on 2/4/12


We 'can' expect the false prophet gog to be of Gomer descent and of Judea..?

Also, the name of the false prophet may be a variant of Issac, as Macca and Merribah.
---yohannes_estonia on 2/4/12


Hosea tells us Gomer. Gog, and Magog is written and concerning 'of' 'Judea'.

AM Mon, Egypt, Moab, Edom....
---issac_newt on 2/4/12


//He will be associated the tribe of Judah. He deception would be fruitless otherwise. Though spurious, he will present himself as god, the only true messiah of "his people" in particular, and all of mankind in general.---joseph on 1/28/12///---Agreed.

Not all believers will be taken up before him. Purposed-only those "elected-chosen"-Mk 13:11-14 "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost [Spirit]."[...]then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:"

True Christ comes-Seventh trumph.
I Cor 15:52
---char on 2/4/12


Most likely mahometanism because mahometanism denies that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/4/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Asthma


'The very fact that Jesus was able to cast unclean spirits out of people indicates that that presumption is patently false, since those were spirits, and they were also "in the flesh".'- Strongaxe, 2/3/12.

So where does the Bible say Jesus was a spirit 'in the flesh' in the same way the demonic spirits were 'in the flesh'?

Strongaxe- prove my "presumption" wrong through scripture!
---David8318 on 2/4/12


If you cannot support your argument with scripture, then it is you who makes an unwarranted assumption.
---David8318 on 2/4/12

scripture can be provided, but the treatment of it is not equal (or fair).

therefore, 2Ti 2:14 ...charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers.

the argument over words if they are not given equal treatment is futile.

2Ti 2:16 ...avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,
2Ti 2:17 and their talk will spread like gangrene..
---aka on 2/4/12


Strongaxe- you certainly implied Jesus possessed people by your drawing the comparison with demon possession. You're still comparing apples with oranges.

Please show me in the Bible where Jesus was BOTH a flesh and spirit being at the same time?
---David8318 on 2/4/12


'You are making an unwarranted assumption, that "being a spirit" and "being in the flesh" are mutually exclusive'- strongaxe 2/3/12.

No, I'm not assuming anything. John said Jesus came in the flesh- 1 John 4:2,3 / 2 John 7.

Where does the Bible say Jesus Christ between his birth and death was BOTH a spirit being and flesh at the same time?

If you cannot support your argument with scripture, then it is you who makes an unwarranted assumption.
---David8318 on 2/4/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Cholesterol


David8318:

I did not say Jesus possessed anyone. I merely pointed out that there are several examples in the Bible where a being described as a spirit was also in the flesh - something you said was impossible.

Just HOW a spirit is in the flesh, is not relevant to the discussion. The fact that a spirit can be both spirit and simultaneously in the flesh, is.
---StrongAxe on 2/4/12


"He is not coming."
---atheist
He has all ready came... in your life!
---Elder on 2/3/12


Strongaxe- you are now comparing apples with oranges. I believe there is a fundamental difference between demonic possession and Jesus being 'manifest in the flesh'. Where does the Bible teach Jesus possessed a person in order to be 'both flesh and spirit'?

There is a dichotomy- the body that demon possessed did not belong to the demon, it belonged to the person it possessed. Once that demon was cast out, the man would have led a normal life without demonic interference.

You believe Jesus possessed a person, is that how you explain Jesus was 'both flesh and spirit'? Can you show me where the Bible says Jesus was both flesh and a spirit being at the same time? I can show a number of verses where Jesus is 'flesh'.
---David8318 on 2/3/12


Rev 13:11 Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon.

can anyone figure out why France is so passive and was so willing to be overtaken to avoid loss of human life?

//He is not coming.//
---atheist on 2/3/12

interesting. you did not say that he does not exist. you said that he is not coming.
---aka on 2/3/12


Send a Free Espanol Ecard


He is not coming.
---atheist on 2/3/12


David8318:

You are making an unwarranted assumption, that "being a spirit" and "being in the flesh" are mutually exclusive.

The very fact that Jesus was able to cast unclean spirits out of people indicates that that presumption is patently false, since those were spirits, and they were also "in the flesh".

There are also several instances of the Holy Spirit entering people.

As far as what I believe: why is that important? This is a discussion about what the Bible teaches and does not teach, NOT about what I believe. What I believe is irrelevant to this discussion.
---StrongAxe on 2/3/12


David8318 But trinitarians believe they are one issue. They believe Jesus is God,

God the Son!

David8318* therefore they believe and readily say and admit God came in the flesh.

God the Son!

David8318* Even some trinitarian Bible's erroneously say 'God was manifest in the flesh'- 1 Tim.3:16 (KJV).

God the Son!

David8318* I believe as John taught that it was Jesus who came in the flesh.

So do trinitarians!

David8318* Yet this contradicts what John said and what Jesus said at John 4:24 that 'God is a Spirit'.

Contradiction is from you, Jesus is not God the Father.

David8318* So do you believe God came in the flesh or not?

God the Son, YES!
---Ruben on 2/3/12


'Your question to me asked about God coming in the flesh, which are two distinct issues to those, like you, who believe Jesus is not God.' (Strongaxe 2/2/12)

But trinitarians believe they are one issue. They believe Jesus is God, therefore they believe and readily say and admit God came in the flesh. Even some trinitarian Bible's erroneously say 'God was manifest in the flesh'- 1 Tim.3:16 (KJV).

I believe as John taught that it was Jesus who came in the flesh. Trinitarians will say 'God was manifest in the flesh'. Yet this contradicts what John said and what Jesus said at John 4:24 that 'God is a Spirit'.

So do you believe God came in the flesh or not?
---David8318 on 2/3/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Lasik Surgery


Strongaxe- I wasn't comparing anything, simply asking you a direct question. Do you believe God came in the flesh? It's either yes or no. I believe God didn't. As scripture states, it was Jesus who came in the flesh. Who do you say came in the flesh?

I agree trinitarians believe Jesus "was BOTH flesh and spirit" (your comments 2/1/12). But the Bible doesn't say this.

I believe Jehovah God has always been and will always be a spirit being. God has never been man (Hosea 11:9). Jesus on the other hand, a created being, came 'in the flesh' as a man (Phil.2:7,8).

If you believe what I believe or anyone else believes has no relevance to what the Bible says or not, then why take issue with me in the first place!?
---David8318 on 2/3/12


David818:

What I believe, or what you believe, or what anyone else believes, has no relevance to what the Bible says, or does not say.

You are also comparing apples to oranges. You quoted my quoting John referring to Jesus coming in the flesh. However, your question to me asked about God coming in the flesh, which are two distinct issues to those, like you, who believe Jesus is not God.
---StrongAxe on 2/2/12


'John's definition of antichrist is someone who says Jesus did not come in the flesh'- strongaxe, 2/2/12.

So strongaxe, do you therefore believe God came in the flesh?
---David818 on 2/2/12


David8318:

You said: I believe is tantamount to confessing Jesus was not fully flesh- period

Nowhere does the Bible say this. Once again, you are making up your own definitions.

John's definition of antichrist is someone who says Jesus did not come in the flesh. It is NOT someone who says Jesus is not fully flesh.

You can keep making straw men and tearing them down as often as you like.
---StrongAxe on 2/2/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Bullion


The trinitarian view of Jesus Christ- "They believe he was BOTH flesh and spirit"- strongaxe, 2/1/12.

I agree this is what trinitarians say and believe, but their belief is that Jesus was God, who is "a spirit".

My point is in saying that Jesus Christ is 'both' flesh and spirit, or 'God in the flesh', I believe is tantamount to confessing Jesus was not fully flesh- period- and thus by definition is 'the antichrist' teaching according to 2 John 7. John gives no grounds in his statements to believe Jesus was in anyway anything other than 'flesh'.

'God is a spirit'- those were Jesus' words when on earth (John 4:24). Was he referring to himself or God? Where was 'God' when Jesus said this?
---David8318 on 2/2/12


David8318:

I do not question John's definition of antichrist.

How does "God Incarnate" or "Fully God and fully man" REMOTELY suggest Jesus did not come in the flesh? Both phrases strongly imply he DID come in the flesh!

You said: If he was God, Jesus could not also be 'flesh'.

Why assume the two are mutually exclusive? Can you show a Bible verse that says so?

While it "stands to reason" that Trinitarians believe Jesus was a spirit, it does NOT stand to reason that they ALSO believe he was not flesh. They believe he was BOTH flesh and spirit. You cannot say "They can't", then arbitrarily pick one they must believe and say they must therefore not believe the other.
---StrongAxe on 2/1/12


Strongaxe, my argument is based on the scriptures I quote on 1/31/12- 1 John 4:2,3 and 2 John 7- not on what trinitarians believe or say, but were offered as requested by you. It is certainly my experience that the trinitarians I quote do regularly use such terms as 'God incarnate' and 'fully God and fully man' in their description and understanding of Jesus Christ.

I disagree with you. If he was God, Jesus could not also be 'flesh'. When on earth Jesus said, 'God is a Spirit'- John 4:24. Thus because trinitarians believe Jesus was God when he said this, it stands to reason they believe Jesus was 'a Spirit'. Indeed God IS a spirit, but Jesus was 'in the flesh' when he made that statement. Thus, JesusChrist was/is not God.
---David8318 on 2/1/12


The Book of Revelation is an Apoplectic Pseudepigraphic text and is not holy scripture even Martin Luther recognized that fact and did not included it in is German translation of the Bible and relegated to an appendix in the back. The apostle John never wrote the text the quality of the Greek grammar was too poor and inconsistent with the high quality of grammar in the Gospel of John. Modern textual analysis definitively prove beyond any doubt among knowledgeable Bible textual scholars the apostle John did not pen Revelations based on writing style and Greek vocabulary. So speculation of who the Antichrist might be totally meaningless. There are two legitimate authors named John in the Bible John the apostle and John the Elder.
---Blogger9211 on 2/1/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Menopause


David8318:

The verse you quoted about the definition of "antichrist" says "who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh".

NONE of the people you accuse say this. You put words in their mouths that they do not say, and then condemn them for it. This is a logical fallacy called a "straw man argument".

Claiming that "Jesus is God, fully spirit means he cannot be flesh" also does not follow logically, unless you can prove that the two are mutually exclusive (which the Bible never does). For example, oOrange juice is fully orange AND fully juice at the same time, since those are not mutually exclusive.
---StrongAxe on 1/31/12


David8318 //Jesus was not a God-man or God incarnate. Jesus was completely flesh and not God who, according to Jesus when he was on earth,...
---
The problem with this view is that it is contrary to some verses.

Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity, therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

And then you have the infamous Comma Johanneum which many say is spurious but it is found only in the Latin Vulgate.

I for one, do accept the concept of the Trinity but I can also see the arguments against it.
---lee1538 on 1/31/12


Strongaxe, I know ones such as Cluny on this site regularly claim Jesus is 'God incarnate'- ie. the false teaching God was 'clothed with flesh'. Warwick's favourite mantra is Jesus was 'fully God and fully man'. You yourself admit God is a spirit. If Jesus were 'fully God', then he is also 'fully spirit'. This is the antichrist teaching (John 4:24, 2 John 7).

I've spoken to many trinitarians in my travels and many if not all will say Jesus was 'God cloaked with flesh'. This is apostate, antichrist teaching.

Jesus was not a God-man or God incarnate. Jesus was completely flesh and not God who, according to Jesus when he was on earth, is 'a spirit'- Jo.4:24. Jesus is not God, but the 'Son of God'- John 1:34.
---David8318 on 1/31/12


Fenrisulfr, I think you're on to something. Keep up the good work. :)
---John.usa on 1/31/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Penpals


David8318:

Can you show a single trinitarian who believes (let alone teaches) that since God is a spirit, and Jesus is God, that Jesus is a spirit and therefore did not come in the flesh? If so, it would be news to me (and everybody else here too), as I have never ever heard anyone teach that. So who, exactly are these antichrists you refer to who teach that Jesus did not come in the flesh?
---StrongAxe on 1/31/12


'Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist...'- 1 John 4:2,3 (NIV).

'Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist'- 2 John 7 (NIV).

Those who teach 'Jesus is God' and therefore 'a Spirit' and not flesh are antichrist. Those who teach Jesus is 'God incarnate', spirit cloaked with flesh are 'antichrist'.

The 'antichrist' is not from any one nation, but from those professing to be 'Christian' but who teach apostasy.

Jesus is not God, but the 'Son of God'.
---David8318 on 1/31/12


Fenrisulfr:

Fire from the heavens could be nuclear weapons, orbital satellites, flaming meteors, or something else. The Mark of the Beast could be a UPC code tattoo, or RFID chip, or a loyalty brand, or something else. The King of the East with an army of 200 million could be China, or somebody else.

It is an error of gullibility to believe one can readily see what these things MUST be, given our current understanding, as our understanding is constantly increasing, and theories from just one generation back seem embarassingly naive.

But it is also an error of complacency to assume these things CAN'T be what is written about, because eventually these prophecies WILL describe something actual. We should always be vigilant.
---StrongAxe on 1/31/12


The whole point I'm trying to make is that it takes no faith to believe that large parts of the Bible [which are talking about the End-Times yet to come] are really describing things that have already come to pass.

Easy to believe the Mohammedan Hordes of A.D. 630-786 were the Locusts of Revelation 9. It means we don't have to deal with them.

It takes no faith to believe that Ancient Rome was the Terrible Fourth Beast of Daniel 7, because Rome is long gone.

And it's even supremely comforting to believe that Antiochus Epiphanes is the vile person of Daniel 11, because hes already dead and gone. We dont have to worry about him!

What could be better than that?
---Fenrisulfr on 1/31/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Accounting


Like Martha, we tend to believe things that, in our experience, make more sense.

For instance, the False Prophet commands fire to come down from Heaven [Rev 13:13], people might believe this man will have command over laser-firing orbiting satellites, or that he'll send nuclear warheads down upon rebellious nations.

Or when he gives life to the Image of the Beast [Rev 13:15], it's really talking about activating some kind of Giant Robot.

Or [this one's my favorite!] the Mark of the Beast [Rev 13:16] turns out to be a RFID computer chip implanted under the skin!

NOT SO!

The Bible calls those things MIRACLES [Rev 13:14]. Beyond human understanding.

And that's SCARY!

And that takes FAITH!
---Fenrisulfr on 1/31/12


"Will the Anti-Christ come out of Europe, Islam, USA or Rome and why?"

How about...none of the above?

Europe. A popular contender. Ten toes of iron and clay, and ten lofty horns line up pretty well with a ten nation European Union. However attractive, this assumption has no real foundation. Its basis comes from the idea that the Iron Legs of the Image from Daniel 2, and the Fourth Beast from Daniel 7, is Rome. Unfortunately for that theory Daniel 11 states that the nation of the Beast comes out of the remnants of the Empire of Alexander the Great.

His Dominion was shared out between his four generals after his death. It extended no further west than Macedonia.

Rome is not even in the running.
---Fenrisulfr on 1/31/12


Daniel 11:4 speaks of a mighty king. This is Alexander the Great. On his death his kingdom was broken and divided among his four generals ["not to his posterity" the Bible states]. These four worthies were Cassander [who took over Macedonia], Lysimachus [who gained Thrace], Ptolemy [who ruled Egypt] and Seleucus [who took over a HELL of a lot of real-estate: Mesopotamia, Babylonia, Persia, Bactria, almost all the way to India].

Seleucus and Ptolemy are the Kings of the North and South [mentioned in the rest of Daniel 11], respectively.
---Fenrisulfr on 1/31/12


Rome has nothing to do with the fulfillment of the Prophecy. The nation of the Beast has to come from somewhere in the geographic area of the King of the North and the King of the South. Egypt under Ptolemy was the King of the South. The Dominion of the Seleucid Empire was the King of the North. It just so happens that the Land of Israel falls within the ancient boundaries of the Seleucid Empire.
---Fenrisulfr on 1/31/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Fundraisers


Its a funny thing about belief. We tend to believe things that are easy to believe.

Case in point: John 11:23-24 "Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day." Martha found it easy to believe in the General Resurrection of the Last Day. It was part of her culture and shed been taught it all her life. It was Supernatural, but the Supernatural, in her experience, was separated from the Natural [and therefore, safe].

But Jesus invited her to taste of Miracle RIGHT IN THE HERE AND NOW. And she believed. And she saw her brother live again!
---Fenrisulfr on 1/31/12


StrongAxe, I read it online, so it must be true. :-)
---John.usa on 1/30/12


John.usa:

And just how do you happen to know that the Illuminati run all of those organizations?
---StrongAxe on 1/30/12


The Antichrist will be high up in the nefarious Illuminati organization which runs the Freemasons, The Catholic, Orthodox, and Anglican churches, the US Congress, all the Western European governments, the Red Cross, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve, the National Council of Churches, and even the Sisters of Charity.
---John.usa on 1/29/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Ecommerce


Correction to prior post. "He will be associated the tribe of Judah." should read He will be perceived to be associated with the tribe of Judah. Considering that it was written concerning the True Christ "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah, art not the least among the princes of Judah: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel." The Antichrist, His imitator, we most likely claim to have come out of Bethlehem in fulfillment of that prophesy. Although Jesus actually fulfill this, the leaders of Judaism, who rejected Him during His time, and until this day, considered Him as one who came from Nazareth.
---joseph on 1/29/12


"Just as the true Christ came from the true Israel, so Antichrist will come from Anti-Israel."---Jack on 6/7/06

I agree. He will be associated the tribe of Judah. He deception would be fruitless otherwise. Though spurious, he will present himself as god, the only true messiah of "his people" in particular, and all of mankind in general.
---joseph on 1/28/12


There have been hundreds of assumptions of who the antichrist will be, over the past 1500 years, and each time it has been proven wrong.

Why do we keep trying, when we know the last people messed up.

If you read Revelation, the powers of the antichrist will be so great that when he arrives, we will know.

Until then, better stop guessing and geet on with our normal lives!
---Peter on 1/27/12


Are you talking about King Juan Carlos of Spain being in AC ?
---Aaron_S on 1/27/12


Read These Insightful Articles About Jewelry


I know there's many speculations about the
A-C, but the world has seen him before and will see him again. Hint he was broadcast all over the world through the media for 8mths in year 2000. He is training, as we speak, to become the greatest socialist despot the world has ever witnessed and has already joined the military. U.S. and E.U setting up the stage for him. Dan 2 is Neb's statue. Head is gold (Babylon), Chest & Arms is silver (Mede & Persia), Thighs is bronze (Greece) Legs is iron (East & West Roman empire) and Toes part iron & clay (The Revived Roman empire which represents E.U)
---sandr4873 on 8/4/09


Sandra you may be right, but, in my Bible,
Dan 7:8 & 24 doesn't mention the Europen Union.
---Donna66 on 8/3/09


None of the above. The final Antichrist will be an Assyrian (Isaiah 10.12, 24, 14.25, 30.31, 31.8, Micah 5.5-6). Consequently, Assyria will become a nation again prior to the return of Christ (Isaiah 19.23-25, Micah 5.6, 7.12, Zech 10.10-11). Read about it in my new book, Warrior from Heaven.

Kermit Zarley
---Kermit_Zarley on 8/3/09


1 John 2:18 Early Christians heard the coming of the antichrist.
1 John 2:18 "Even now there are many antichrist"
And where did they come out from?
1 John 2:19 "These many antichrists "went out from us" Scripture says they come from the body of Christ.
What is the purpose of them?
1 John 2:26 "These antichrists are trying to seduce us away from Jesus Christ.

1 John 4:3 "There is also a spirit of antichrist.
And what are Christains to do?
1 John 4:4 " True Christians must overcome every form of antichrist."
how do they overcome?
2 John 9-"To overcome these antichrist, Christians must abide in the doctrine of Christ.
---MarkV. on 8/2/09


Read These Insightful Articles About Furniture


Hi Donna,
1st let me say this it started from a revelation from God back in 2000. I didn't ask for this revelation nor did I go looking for who could be the potential canditate as the A-C. To be honest I cared less...I had my mind set on the coming of Jesus and living a life that He should be pleased with. Now the scriptures...Dan 7:8 & 24 says the A-C will rise from the 11 nation of of the E.U. which as Spain. This indiviual's ancestors are from this country. He will start off as a little horn and will surpass the other kings (or prime ministers of the E.U) with astonishment they will exalt him...running out will have to continue on next reply
---Sandra on 7/31/09


Sandra -- Where did you get this information?
---Donna66 on 7/27/09


This is my 1st posting ever on this site but feel compelled to say something here on this topic. The A-C was born of a Spaniard decent but raised in a communist nation in secrecy (at this stage he's mystery of inquity at work, 2thes 2:7). He is not a man yet, which will start at age 20 (Numbers 32:11 gives biblical age man is recognized). He was introduced as a little kid back in 2000 to the world for nearly 8 months straight and will come back with a fierce, charismatic disposition but with a socialist agenda to lead the world. He will seek to go back to the country his ancesters were brought up (that's Spain) and this is where he will kick start into a deceptive and maniacal agenda to lead the world our of a dire state...the rest is history.
---Sandra on 7/26/09


He WILL rise out of the E.U,
I've told you this before.
Babylon= Head of Gold.
Medes & Persians= Arms & Breast of Silver.
Greeks= Belly & Thighs of Brass.
Rome= Legs of "IRON".

THEN, in the endtimes, the Feet of "IRON" & Clay W/10 toes, The European Union "IS" the ONLY form of Goverment that fits this profile.

3 nations belonged in 1948 when Israel became a nation again, and when the Berlin wall came down in 1989, 7 more nations joined and they called it the E.U, and then 11, 12 & 13 joined in the 1990's, and now we are at 27 nations strong(watch Turkey)...

The Holy Ghost showed me this when i was 12 yrs old and you'd do well to listen and understand...
YLBD
---YLBD on 6/20/09


Read These Insightful Articles About Laptops


Dawn where did you get Islam from? Are you related to george Bush by an chance?

The Holy Fathers Iriney ("Against Heresy", Book V, chapter 30), Ippolit, and also Ilariy, Ambrose, Ieronim and Augustus, remark that the Antichrist will be of Jewish ancestry, from the tribe of Dan. "The Antichrist will come and be born, from a depraved wife and self-styled virgin, which is from the Jews, from the tribe of Dan."
---riaz on 6/17/09


He will come out of Rome
---karen on 10/11/08


Daniel 11:21-45,40 calls him the king of the north: and north of Jerusalem is Syria and Turkey, and north of the Black Sea is Russia.
---Eloy on 10/15/07


Since he is the Anti-Christ he will most likely come from the same place that Jesus did because he will be copying everything Jesus did in order for ppl to believe he is the real "christ" which he is not.
---ANN on 10/15/07


Read These Insightful Articles About Lawyer


I believe the Anti-Christ will come out of Islam. Muslims are not willing to listen or to deal with infidels, ie Christians and Jews. Jews and "Christians" would be more apt to accept a "man of peace" from Islam than Islam to accept him from their ranks.
---Dawn on 10/15/07


Some 50 years ago general belief among biblical scholars was Antichrist would come from Syria. Here are things Antichrist would seemingly need to be. 1. Since a imitator of Christ, I believe he will be of Jewish ancestry. 2. We know Jesus' ministry began at age 30 or thereabouts, I believe the Antichrist will be young 30s. Bible indicates he is a great orator, And he must by necessity be a great negotiator. He will be able to bring completely opposites to agreement for a period of time.
---mima on 4/19/07


Just as the true Christ came from the true Israel, so Antichrist will come from Anti-Israel.
---Jack on 6/7/06


I believe he will come from the 10-nation Western European Union. There's already one man with more power than any other man I've read about. He received his power from Recommendation 666 and is head of the WEU.
---Nellah on 5/14/06


Read These Insightful Articles About Dedicated Hosting


And farther north of Russia is the North Pole.

So what is your point?
---Jack on 5/14/06


He comes from Europe, and according to Daniel the Prophet, he comes from the country north of Jerusalem. Now the land north of Jerusalem is Syria and Turkey, then you have the Black Sea, and further north of the Black Sea is the Ukraine and Russia.
---Eloy on 5/10/06


I don't know if you have noticed but our government is Anti-Christ they are doing every thing they can to remove any evidence of Jesus Christ. It may not be long before you notice when your rights are all taken away. Will you still be looking elsewhere for Anti-christ the best place to hide something is right in plain view.
---Exzucuh on 5/9/06


Copyright© 1996-2015 ChristiaNet®. All Rights Reserved.