Bad Things After The Ratpure
A friend raised in a bible believing family told me that as Christians we won't go through the end times such as the anti-christ ruling, the one world government and needing the mark to buy and sell. Will that happen after the ratpure?
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---Renea on 5/8/06
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Reuban before JESUS comes all will be resurrected to life. Therefore those who pierced him and all other eyes will see Him come in the Clouds.
Very simple. |
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---Samuel on 5/7/08 |
Everyone_Luke21:
36 WATCH YE therefore, and PRAY always, that YE may BE accounted WORTHY to ESCAPE ALL these things that shall come TO PASS, and to stand before the Son of man.
I don't care what "WORD"(Rapture,ect.) people Give IT.
"ESCAPE" in ANY language, means GETTING out of Something.
IN this instance, IT'S the Wrath That's Coming! |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/6/08 |
Rhonda you are right. Jesus is only coming back once. Not a half and once. If we are alive at the time we must endure all the tribulations and remain faithful. |
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---Nicole on 5/6/08 |
Rapture or catching away ...or any other term used to portray Christ returning 2 times is false ...Christ only returns to earth once ...there is nothing in scripture to support Christ returning to "collect" true Christians prior to the Day of the Lord ....and then again at the end of the tribulation to collect those who survived
Christ only returns once at the end of the tribulation and it is correctly called a resurrection to eternal life |
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---Rhonda on 5/6/08 |
I've given you the truth,
Do with it what you will.
ALL, will know the Truth soon Enough. |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/5/08 |
John also says in Revelation 1:9 that "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation...." If Revelation talks about the end of the world, then John can't be our companion, can he? But he was a companion to the church back then. Revelation 1:7 says "Behold, he cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him...." This is not talking about the end of the world if those who pierced him shall see him. |
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---Reuben on 5/5/08 |
Revalation chapter 1 states these events will "shortly come to pass" and the "time is at hand," therefore we know revelation is not talking about the end of the world. The book is called The Revelation of Jesus Christ, and yet matthew 24:36 says "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my father only." Here Jesus admits only his father knows the time of his coming, therefore the Revelation of Jesus Christ cannot be about the end of the world |
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---Reuben on 5/5/08 |
God says in the book of Ezek. & Rev.,
That the Life giving water that WILL flow from the Throne of God that will be IN the New Jerusalem that Desends from Heaven After J-Day.
WILL give Life to the Dead Sea & that we will catch fish & the trees that bare the 12 kinds of Fruit that grows along the Banks of that river & the Leaves shall be used to heal the world.
This IS both in the Book of Ezek & Rev.
I've given the vrs, before, If needed I'll give them Again? |
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---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 5/5/08 |
Truly with all respect, Are you saying that the Rapture is not at the same time as the 2nd coming of Jesus?
As a Catholic, I am confused when some who speak of a Rapture-Tribulation-2nd Coming of Jesus.
Are you saying He is coming back 1 and 1/2 times to earth?
Honestly, I am not being smart with this question. I am confused of your doctrine on Rapture. |
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---Nicole on 5/5/08 |
The church cannot take the mark of the beast. To do so is to forfeit your soul. But after a Pre- tribulation rapture( If that word upsets some, we could say "catching away" all hell will break loose. It will be like the restraint or leash being taken off a mad wild beast. In fact is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in the Christian who holds the wild beast of natural man. |
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---mima on 5/5/08 |
Wake up and look around and smell the credit cards. Do you really believe the Bride is spotless for Jesus's return? Do you think we have to look at our current circumstances and maybe use our God given brains a little more. After all we are only using 10% apparently. Another thought How many Anti-christ actions are taking place under whos governence at the moment. Is everyone everywhere (families despite of geography and cultural richness and variety) not displaying the be-attitudes taught by our Messiah? |
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---Harry on 8/28/07 |
LOLOL! :D Love your humor, Kevin! :D |
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---Mary on 8/20/07 |
My question is, after we come back where are we all going to find any food to eat, I would think that we would have to have a good bush knife, rabbit trap, box of matches, soap, mobile phone, and a dehydrated Mc Donalds hamburger and toilet paper all strapped to our body. The unrighteous will have taken everything that we had. What do you think? |
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---Kevin_Kranz on 8/19/07 |
We are already living the end times. As Christians we should be prepared for the rapture. After the rapture the anti-Christ will be revealed and there will be sufferring and gnashing of teeth. |
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---Cris on 8/17/07 |
The Rapture, in the sense of our gathering to be with Christ, takes place at His second coming and the general Resurrection AFTER the Tribulation.
Those looking for it to happen after the Tribulation will be among the first to fall down and worship Antichrist. |
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---Jack on 3/23/07 |
The best way to get to heaven is not to concern yourself with frivolous conspiracies and debates. These take your time away from what really matter -- feeding the poor, quenching their thirst, clothing them, comforting them, looking after them when they are sick, and visit them in prisons. Do all of this in the glory of God. Genuine love is serving others without asking for anything in return. Pray to God to give you the ability and the resources to accomplish His will. |
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---Steve on 7/17/06 |
The best way to get to heaven is not to concern yourself with frivolous conspiracies and debates. These take your time away from what really matter -- feeding the poor, quenching their thirst, clothing them, comforting them, looking after them when they are sick, and visit them in prisons. Do all of this in the glory of God. Genuine love is serving others without asking for anything in return. Pray to God to give you the ability and the resources to accomplish His will. |
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---Steve on 7/17/06 |
Okebaram,
Prove to me from scripture that there will be 7 years of tribulation after what people are calling the secret rapture.
And dont use Daniel 9. The last 7 years of the prophecy of Daniel 9 already happened. The last week of the 490 year prophecy started in 27ad with the annointing or baptism of Jesus. In the middle of the week Jesus was crudified 31ad. The week ended in 34 ad when the gospel went to the whole world. |
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---eric on 6/18/06 |
The book left behind and other books that talk about the rapture are purely fiction.
Its not biblical. Study it out more. I encourage you. Im not trying to stir up emotions, I am sorry if I have offended anyone.
When I was becoming a christian I heard so much about this secret rapture. And I alomst accepted it but I found many holes in that theory. Remember its only a theory like evolution. I have studied this topic many times and it gets more clear each time. There will be no secret rapture. |
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---eric on 6/16/06 |
Indeed, after the rapture, there will be 7 years of the anti-christ rule called "The Great Tribulation". (Read Elder's comments on 5/11) The first 3 & 1/2 years will involve the anti-Christ pretending to create world peace, and the remaining 3&1/2 years will be horrible because Satan would rule the government completely which he cannot do now. |
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---Okebaram on 5/19/06 |
I agree with your friend. If a person is one of God's then they won't see what will happen. this is a good thing, because I don't want to be here when it all goes down. |
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---Rebecca_D on 5/19/06 |
Johns advice against speculation (which much of this topic is) is well founded.
I believe in the imminent return of the Lord (could happen any minute) Matthew 25:13, "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."
I live as if he is not coming back for 1000 years. 1 John 3:2-3, "... And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure." |
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---Bruce5656 on 5/11/06 |
All of the examples given here may very well give insight to the Great Tribulation but they are not examples of the Great Tribulation.
The Bible says the Great Tribulation will be a time as never seen before.
Tribulation comes to all of God's Saints. Some are even murdered for the Faith. That is not the Great Tribulation though. |
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---Elder on 5/11/06 |
Unlike some here, I reserve the right to be wrong, especially in eschatology.
I do not need extensive charts or well-meaning-but-inexact THEORIES to tell me Jesus is returning soon. He said he will, and that is sufficient.
I was on live TV with a "number spinner" once. He and his unlearned ilk led too many astray, and they do not stop when their so-called knowledge is wrong. They create new numbers. |
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---John_T on 5/11/06 |
i believe in pre-trib.of the rapture because
the church is not mentioned after the tribulation is described in the bible. we are living in the end times not the tribulation. |
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---mike on 5/11/06 |
There is no (THE)in the revelation great tribulation it only says the church came out of great tribulation, in tribulation all christians enter the kingdom. Read the history and marterdom of the church before us, a much more holy and righteous church than we. If the Apostles and church were not raptured out of their tribulation or any after them, who could even think that such would be the case for the unthankful church of today who pay God for blessings rather than put faith in the cross of Christ. |
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---Exzucuh on 5/11/06 |
To those who deny a pre-trib rapture, consider this. All the evil that will occur in the Great Tribulation can only happen if the Holy Spirit removes Himself from direct influence on this earth. For this to happen and the church to still be here would mean that God has denied His promises and abandoned us, as the Spirit dwells in the true believers. Yes, there will be TERRIBLE things happening at that time. |
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---tommy3007 on 5/11/06 |
I see a mid trib or post trib "rapture" as being more likely because IMO the 10 Egypian Plagues as a type (rehersal) of the Great Tribulation.
None of the Hebrews had the plagues, only "non-believers". That view also satisfies the Scripture saying Believers will also escape judgment.
That is my two cents, and I will not go further; the end times are speculative, and known only by God the Father. Jesus could come before you get to the period at the end of this post. |
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---John_T on 5/9/06 |
Renea we will have to go through these times, but take courage not one hair on the head of us who know and embrace the truth, and share this truth with others, fall to the ground (1 Sam. 15:45), (luke 21:18). For in our patience we provide for our souls verse 19. Watch and pray always, that you may be counted worthy to escape (shun the origin of the cares of this life, and the deceiver) and all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man (Lk 21:35). |
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---josef on 5/9/06 |
Recall how Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego went through the tribulation under the AntiGod ruler, Nebuchadnezzaar, but the fire did not harm them. The AntiChrist and the ungodly will persecute the Christians, but God avenges. Recall the 10 plagues which fell upon the Egyptians, but not the Israelites; how Noah and his family were spared; Lot and his family; and Daniel in the lion's den. We overcome and aren't hurt in the 2nd death. Please read Matthew 24:4-44; Revelation 2:10,11; 3:20-22; 12:11; 14:9-12. |
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---Eloy on 5/9/06 |
No such thing as a pre-trib rapture, Mima. |
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---Jack on 5/8/06 |
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