Well, in studying I find some are made righteous by certain qualifications. One committed to God makes one righteous. Righteousness itself is grounded in the character of God. In Ps. 53>>God speaks. everyone has gone astray. The universality of a practical Atheism that denies the presence, power, and provisions of God.>>Whether it is in practice or some other unbelief. How comes it that men are so bad?..Because there is no fear of God. |
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---catherine on 5/26/08 |
Luk 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord, be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
Mat 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? |
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---Carla5754 on 5/26/08 |
Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags, and we all do fade as a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Mar 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God. |
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---Carla5754 on 5/26/08 |
I am not catholic but that's what the bible say's
frances said: ''His Will is not that we should crown Mary Queen of Heaven,''
Carla say's HUh?
frances008
It seems like one of the rare cases where scientific development actually does some good to someone). God bless surrogate mothers, Jesus's mother, Mary, was one.
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---Carla5754 on 5/26/08 |
God bless surrogate mothers, Jesus's mother, Mary, was one.5/22/08
The Bible says ''that not one of us is righteous'', ''Mary was blessed'', but ''moreover, blessed are we'', ''Jesus promises, if we do the will of God the Father. His Will is not that we should crown Mary Queen of Heaven, ? Anyone who usurps Jesus's place is a thief and evil. Mary was not that person.? She was just a humble Jewish girl. frances008 on 5/25/08 |
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---Carla5754 on 5/26/08 |
frances
I found your comment confusing and disjointed because your statements conflicted with your reply. |
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---Carla5754 on 5/26/08 |
The Bible says that not one of us is righteous, we have ALL fallen short of the glory of God. Mary was blessed, but moreover, blessed are we, Jesus promises, if we do the will of God the Father. His Will is not that we should crown Mary Queen of Heaven, but that we should Look to the Son. Anyone who usurps Jesus's place is a thief and evil. Mary was not that person. She was just a humble Jewish girl. |
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---frances008 on 5/25/08 |
frances
You have it all wrong to dare class Mary Jesus mother A surrogate and should be ashamed of yourself . She was Blessed amongst All Mothers and truly rare and exceptional compared to these women perverting ''Faith'' by artificially inseminating themselves with foreign materials for immoral reasons, Mary carried The Savior of the world was a virgin and a true example of decent woman one chosen of God how can they be compared to Gods handmaid?. |
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---Carla5754 on 5/25/08 |
It seems like one of the rare cases where scientific development actually does some good to someone. God bless surrogate mothers, Jesus's mother, Mary, was one. |
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---frances008 on 5/22/08 |
how could it be unchristian? it is giving someone one of god's greatest gifts ! a child. i wish i could find a good christian woman to be our surrogate. it is not easy. |
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---rosena on 5/22/08 |
Greater love is this that a man should give his life for a friend, a child's an extension of that same love.
My mother and sister were given to her auntie and uncle, it was what was done in those days, even now now there are cases where this happens, being paid for the cost's(child) included obviously it's illegal to sell a child so it's wrapped up in costs NO ''christian'' should be engaged in the worlds way of producing babies. |
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---Carla5754 on 5/16/08 |
I am a Christian mom of 2 wonderful children. And of 1 wonderful daughter I gave up for adoption almost 11 yrs ago. I feel like God is calling me to be a surrogate. I have done research and have read both sides. I feel like I still have lots of questions that need to be answered but then I realize it's not my questions it's everyone else's. What I think it comes down to is finding the right couple to help. I don't know how to go about doing that. Does anyone know of a Christian surrogacy agency? |
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---d on 5/8/08 |
I have been a Gestational Surrogate 2x and have given birth to two sets of twins. Surrogacy is not the right thing for everyone to go through. Your family needs to be supportive 100% and you have to do your research. Know what the laws are. Know what the risks are of the medications and the IVF procedure. Know if you are ready to carry more then twins. Good Luck! Sharon LaMothe 2x Gestational Surrogate |
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---Sharon_LaMothe on 5/2/08 |
Hi,
I typed in this evening on how to find a Chirsitan Serogate mother as I can not have children. Biblically it is not wrong to carry a couples child for them if its arificially inseminated. I think personally it is the greatest gift a person could ever give a couple. It is not against Christianity to bless a couple with children. I am currently taking my Masters of Divinity and I personally research this there is no biblical foundation not supporting sergogate child bearing. Caroline |
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---Caroline on 4/22/08 |
No this is not against Christianity. Children are a blessing from the Lord...irrispective of how they arrive - each life is planned, blessed and given by God. |
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---Jeannette on 4/3/08 |
I hope God leads you to the right decision for you. I also want to address "c" who thinks that adultery can happen by artificial insemination. Adultery is the act of two people choosing to have sexual relations with someone who is not their spouse. I don't agree with insemination, but it certainly is not adultery! Also, Marcia, Sarai and Abraham are a terrible example of surrogacy. They disobeyed God and took matters into their own hands. Abraham slept with their maid servant. That is adultery. |
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---Katie on 3/31/08 |
If you are a traditional surrogate(your egg and the intended father's sperm)then there could be a problem. That would be adultery. But I don't see a problem with gestational surrogate, the child wouldn't be biologically yours. |
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---c on 1/27/08 |
It is a BLESSING and a JOY to another couple to help them carry a child and "bear their burden"..People who still believe that God "opens and closes wombs" must believe that birth control is a sin as well. The things that GOd does not address in scripture..you have to be led by the HS. Those that feel it would be a SIN..should obviously never consider it! There will always be the legalistic religious ones who try to stuff their OPINIONS down others throats.. |
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---Grace on 1/26/08 |
Stephanie, Mary was not a surrogate Mother and there is no comparison with someone who rents out there womb! She was the Mother of God who Jesus received his humanity from. She nurtured him his whole life and then suffered with Him through the cruxificion. Children are God's gift, not a right. |
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---janet on 1/8/08 |
Ladies, if you are thinking about being a surrogate (or using one), I would have to say go for it! More than likely you will not regret it! I haven't! In fact I'm ready to do it again! I am amazed at how much such an act of love & kindness like surrogacy can cause so much division amongst ourselves. Don't we have better things to argue against! I am a Christian and have been a surrogate. I do not believe surrogacy is anti-Christian!Mary was definitely a surro mother! |
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---Stephanie on 1/7/08 |
Rebecca, from where do you get the idea that Mary was a surrogate mother? Who was the other woman who could not have a child and on whose behalf Mary bore Jesus? There seems to be some quite strange justification for surrogacy on this blog. |
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---RitaH on 11/3/07 |
Hi, God bless you Rebecca :) You are doing such a beautiful thing :) |
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---Mary on 11/2/07 |
I am a surrogate mom 7 weeks pregnant with a baby that belongs to a woman who was born without a uterus. To her, I am a miracle who has been able to show her that Christ does exist. After all, the virgin Mary was the first surrogate. |
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---Rebecca on 11/2/07 |
Carla5754: The scripture you are referencing has nothing to do with this person's situation. God promised Abraham a son from SARAH. That is why using Hagar to conceive was wrong. The Bible does NOT mention artificial insemination. Nor does it mention heart medication, chemotherapy, or multivitamins for that matter. Should we pretend to be stupid and helpless in order to conjure God's miraculous intervention? Let's be transformed by the RENEWING of our minds, rather than the REMOVING of our minds. |
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---j._the_nomad on 10/23/07 |
Being a surrogate mother is a noble thing to do. Rachel was helped (freed,lifted, healed) that way. Jacob took care and loved the children God gave him througth a surrogate mother, Bilhah.>>
And the 4 mothers involved were always quarrelling, even though two were sisters.
Abraham and Sarah had a surrogate motherhood arrangement with Hagar, and look at all the trouble it caused AND IS STILL CAUSING! |
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---Jack on 10/23/07 |
Being a surrogate mother is a noble thing to do. Rachel was helped (freed,lifted, healed) that way. Jacob took care and loved the children God gave him througth a surrogate mother, Bilhah. |
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---M on 10/23/07 |
Where in the bible does it encourage artificial insemination, or the sperm/egg of your spouce being given in any shape or form for the sake of a child?. A great example is where Sarah gave handmaid Hagar to her Husband. This caused the muslims to believe they are the true heir's of the promise land hence the Islamic dominance in Jerusalem today. They refer to the Jews/Christians as Infidels and see themselves as the true occupants.
Why would this practice be Right today? |
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---Carla5754 on 9/2/07 |
Sandy- that support group sounds like just what I am looking for. I am without a doubt pro-life. That christian surrogate support group is full. It did say you can be invited to join. If you are a member of that group would you mind reccommending I be considered to join? Thank you. |
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---Natalie on 9/1/07 |
Julie-What different avenues are you looking at in you journey to find a christian surrogate? |
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---Natalie on 9/1/07 |
I am a Christian and am looking for a Christian Surrogate myself. No. I do not believe it's against anything the bible has to say. |
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---Julie on 8/31/07 |
Stephanie-How did you find the right couple to be their surrogate? Being a surrogate has been laid heavy on my heart. Thank you for sharing your experience. |
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---Natalie on 8/31/07 |
Kristen s.- I am genuinely interested in talking about it. |
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---Natalie on 8/31/07 |
I think it is wonderful that you are considering being a gestational surrogate for a couple who cannot carry their child to term. We are a Christian couple in that situation. Due to pre-cancerous growths, I lost my uterus. The only way for us to have a child together is with the help of the Lord and the mercy of a woman with a selfless heart, like yours. There is a Christian Surrogacy Support group on Yahoo that prays for one another and supports pro-life medical practices in surrogacy. |
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---sandy on 8/31/07 |
I have a burning desire in my heart to be a surrogate mother. I have been looking for a christian based infertility company however I don't believe there is one. I believe there is a couple somewhere that I am meant to help. It is my prayer that God will do his will in my life and make this happen if it is to be. |
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---Natalie on 8/31/07 |
I am genuinely interested in talking about it. I am so thankful for your blog. |
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---Natalie on 8/31/07 |
I am a Christian woman and mother. I delivered gestational surrogate twins one month ago. It is such an amazing gift to give. If you are careful in selecting your couple, you can remain in contact. Therefore, even if they are not Christians, you can be a witness to them by showing them Christ's love. Surrogacy is something that must be decided by the individuals but it is by no means evil or a sin. I could not have done it w/ out His love & guidance. Consider the all the possibilities! |
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---Stephanie on 8/27/07 |
How many people say they Got the revelation/vision from God to get married the lord said yes provided the Provision's, helped them to fight the adversaries and yet In they end Divorced. God get's the blame for a lot of things but how many are willing to testify that their testimony and convictions based of the failure of it will put their hands up to being wrong! |
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---Carla5754 on 8/21/07 |
I must continue my blog. I wish there were room to write all that is in my heart. We've made an absolute commitment to God and his will for us. Our mission is to work with orphaned, abused children. We are in the process of adoptiing already, but it will take two years before we receive a referral. God has laid it in our hearts to attempt to have children via surrogate, but if he says NO in the end, we will embrace his word gratefully. |
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---Kristen_S on 8/21/07 |
This is the first time I have ever been on this blog, or any blog for that matter. I actually came, because I wanted to see if there was a Christian site where there were women interested in becoming surrogate mothers. I would never presume that my husband and I are particularly worthy, certainly not more so than any other human who is a Christ follower. I would have to say that, if someone were genuinely interested in talking about it, my husband Peter and I would be very grateful. |
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---Kristen_S on 8/20/07 |
One need to consider we cannot create a child for a childless couple and copy Mary's divine appointment. Oh man! what did the Gospels encourage, If it was at all possible to do this thing why did God make a womb barren/productive. Consider what men are now able to do regardless of it being biblical and ask yourselves if this makes a disciple of Christ or a child for a couple regardless of the morality of it. What are we asked to do? |
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---Carla5754 on 8/20/07 |
I think that what makes the difference is whether or not you do it to further the kingdom of God or not. I am considering the same thing. I think that you would need to carefully pick the parents and help a couple that you think God is calling to be parents. You want to pick a couple who is going to raise that child to give their souls to Jesus. That boy or girl could grow up to do great things for the Lord. Otherwise, you are just helping to create another lost soul, and there are too many already. |
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---Mercy_Wininger on 8/19/07 |
I think that what makes the difference is whether or not you do it to further the kingdom of God. I am considering the same thing. I think that you would need to carefully pick the parents and help a couple that you think God is calling to be parents. You want to pick a couple who is going to raise that child to give their souls to Jesus. That boy or girl could grow up to do great things for the Lord. Otherwise, you are just helping to create another lost soul, and there are too many already. |
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---Mercy_Wininger on 8/19/07 |
Emcee, Respectfully are you familiar with the DIFFERENCE with the OLD/New Testament? PHEW!
BE VERY CAREFUL what you Call EVIL good and GOOD evil! Adoption carries no such sin. Greater love is this that a man lays down his life for a friend what says you cannot give them your own child. My gran gave my mother to her childless sister NO SIN INVOLVED or MONEY for that FACT. |
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---Carla5754 on 8/19/07 |
Have wondered the same. Am curious to see Biblical replies. |
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---Lois on 8/9/07 |
I am sooo sorry, Rachel. :( Bless you dear. |
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---Mary on 7/24/07 |
Concider Serah asking Hagar to carry Abrahams seeds so that they could have a son. |
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---Marcia on 7/24/07 |
Rachel, would you mind using an initial with your name. I've used Rachel for quite awhile. Thanks so much. |
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---Rachel on 7/24/07 |
I am unable to carry a baby to full term.
My husband and I just lost our second daughter due to extreme prematurity. She was only 4.5 months when I gave birth to her. Hannah was immediately gone from our lives as the doctor and nurses wrapped her up in a blanket. Her little heart beat strongly until my body forced her into our world. |
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---Rachel on 7/23/07 |
God opens and shuts wombs. We decided to adopt after years of infertility, but God intervened and we now have three beautiful children! You would better serve an infertile couple by interceding for them to remain in God's will with contentment. God is able to do exceedingly, abundantly beyond anything we can hope or imagine. Be wise. It would not be selfish of you to tell them "no". This would be YOUR own child that you would be required to give up, and that is no small matter. |
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---Tina on 6/26/07 |
This is such a difficult issue but i belive God is in control of all things and as hard as it is for a couple to not have a child i still belive God knows all things and in this situation we shouldn't try and help God out. He has a reason for all things for our good. |
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---m_ichelle on 6/22/07 |
I have been blessed with five wonderful children. I have lost five children also. I know the pain that goes with the loss of children. I as a christian women think that surrogancy is something that should be prayed about,I don't think that it is against the Lord's wishes or commands. Yes there are several hundred children awaiting adoption and that too should be taken into consideration. I would have no problem being a surrogant for a christian family. Feel free to contact me if you want to talk. |
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---Bridget on 6/13/07 |
I feel it is wrong. I would not choose to do it. I feel we should leave such things alone. If God had wanted her to be a mom, he would have allowed it. Don't play God in this case. Adoption would be a better choice. So many unwanted kids already available. |
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---Robyn on 6/13/07 |
I am christian too and i do GS for a Friend. Nowhere in the Bible is actually a law or anything that says yes or no. Go with you feeling and pray about it. you find the answe |
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---anny on 6/12/07 |
tia, it's either God's way or NO way. Where in the bible did this happen? ..... ---Donna9759 on 5/15/06
Donna, where in the Bible does it say you can ride in a car or fly in a plane or use a refrigerator or even use antibiotics....
That said, Tia, it is a wonderful thing for you to give of yourself like this... but it is fraught with problems. Be sure, be very sure it is what you should do. |
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---NurseRobert on 5/27/07 |
No, its not biblically wrong to be a surrogate mother. Why would it be wrong to help someone have a child?
If you are going to lecture infertile couples about adoption, then first, you need to adopt children yourself. But even then, its not your business to tell someone else how to create their family. That is private and none of your business, and never will be. |
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---Hermione_Lane on 5/27/07 |
Carla ::Is there any Mention of a surrogate mother in the Bible OT OR NT?Doctors were not so learned in those days But Yet Sara allowed Abraham her husband to go to Her Bonds woman Hagar?How did God View this ?See the race of Ishmael today?God is infinite But we must obey his commands. |
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---Emcee on 5/20/07 |
I an not going to encourage someone to do something unless I my self would do it and it lines up with the word of God.
Anything God does he does it Well and when we find ourselves in a position where we do not get a breakthrou we ought to praise God any How. There is a song where it says
And If heaven wasn't..... promised to me, It was WORTH having, the Lord in my life.. Living in a world of darkness, he came down and paid full the price. |
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---carla5754 on 5/20/07 |
There is no greater joy in life than giving of yourself in selflessness to perform a miracle for a couple denied the blessings of children. For medical reasons, many women cannot conceive. That does not stop doctors from implanting eggs in the womb of someone else on their behalf. Just remember though that a special bonding occurs in childbirth. don't listen to those who would want to deny this couple that blessing. Suffer little children to come unto me, for such is the kingdom of Heaven. |
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---ashley on 5/20/07 |
---tia::I applaud your decision especially in view of the poor decisions made by those women who destroy Mankind abort Babies in the most inhuman way. |
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---Emcee on 5/20/07 |
I too would love to be a surrogate, and am a christian i dont know of any scripture but i plan to talk further with me husband who can find one if there is, if you already know can you let me know? this is something ive thought of for awhile now. |
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---Amy_Simpson on 5/20/07 |
It is amazing how others have their opinion on surrogacy. However I think you asked about Gods opionion and if there is something biblical. I don't think anyone can say there is something at all on the subject. You need to do what you are led to do. And if God calls you to surrogacy that will be an incredible journey. |
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---Jenifer_Damato on 5/20/07 |
I think it is a bad idea. Will money be involved? Usually surrogate mothers get paid for their labor(oops...xcuse the pun). I believe if God had wanted this couple to have children he would have provided for that. I would not try to play God in a case like this. I would choose not to do this. I am a christian female. It sounds like a loving and godly thing to do but it could be dangerous for all concerned. |
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---Robyn on 5/15/07 |
Please consider adoption. A kid and families of kids are waiting to be adopted. Don't bring another kid to this already warped and mixed up world. I don't want to sound harsh and bitter, because I am not, but it is tough to be a parent these days. Schools are corrupted, crime rate is out of control. Children are at very high risks these days.Everywhere. Please reconsider. |
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---Robyn on 5/15/07 |
Helen ::You are never to old to get married Honey,& I am too old to play with Balloons.There are many an old revered Knight in shining Armour I believe there was one on these posts waiting for you to drop your Handkerchief,but by your refusal, you are driving him to the cloister. |
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---Emcee on 5/15/07 |
Helen ::You are never to old to get married Honey,& I am too old to play with Balloons.There are many an old revered Knight in shining Armour I believe there was one on these posts waiting for you to drop your Handkerchief,but by your refusal, you are driving him to the cloister.BTW were you ever married?Bless you Helen. |
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---Emcee on 5/15/07 |
Emcee - Sorry to burst your balloon, but I am too old to have children. |
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---Helen_5378 on 5/14/07 |
Helen::Does this mean you are contemplating Martimony? Good for you Have you made a decision FINALLY Good keep us informed we may yet have an event on Christianet.Who is the broom ooops I mean groom, I amexcited!!! |
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---Emcee on 5/14/07 |
Christianity is the accepting and following of Christ. And to be frank, Christ himself was a surrogate child. He was born to Mary who carried him and also Joseph, Mary's husband. Joseph was not Christ's biological father, God was. Thus making Mary's pregnancy a surrogate one. God bless you for even thinking of helping a family have a child. |
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---lisa on 5/13/07 |
I am a student at the UC Berkeley Graduate School of Journalism. I am involved in a class reporting on religion in the US. I am interested in knowing/understanding more about issues surrounding Christian surrogacy, and would like to talk to a Christian couple who is struggling with infertility, is considering surrogacy, but examining the issues. If there is anyone out there who knows someone who would be willing to talk to me, reply here. Thank you very much. Erin |
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---Erin on 4/28/07 |
Well... I am not in favour of surrogacy at all. I believe in having children by the normal means of procreation that God intended. |
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---Helen_5378 on 4/7/07 |
I am Christian and have a genetic disorder. My bones are very fragile and it would very risky for me to carry a pregnancy. After praying for God's direction, somebody told me about surrogacy. My husband and I are looking for somebody to be a surrogate mother for our child and bless us with the gift of carrying our baby. |
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---Sara on 4/6/07 |
Many Christians are not in favor of surrogacy! Carrying a baby for a couple that cannot conceive can be God's provision for them. It is my personal thought that eggs and sperm should not be sold/donated and a surrogate mom should be implanted with a fertilized egg-it will not be her 'natural' child. I have friends that have tried to conceive for nearly 6 years and I would gladly be their surrogate if that is what they thought was best after careful prayer and my husband would support me 100%. |
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---nicole on 4/4/07 |
God did say in the last days knowledge would increase and it has. Would the baby be given to a Christian couple to be raised in the Faith? Would the child be half yours with your "egg" used or completely theirs her egg etc.? |
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---Jeanne on 11/6/06 |
God who is the author and finisher of all things (paraphrasing) conducted the first and most widely read about transplant surgery. Even though he could have made her any way he choose to, He opened up Adams chest and gave Eve one of Adams ribs:). Without it she would not have existed. |
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---llynet on 11/6/06 |
Didn't God use a strangers womb to bless us with his son??? Seems like whenever God speaks to a person the enemy uses the Pharisees to try to bring them down.. If the Holy Spirit has put this on your heart remember Mary and be strong.... I pray you have peace that only God can give you.... Your sister in Christ, Trish |
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