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Do You Believe Your Church

Do you believe what you believe because it is what is taught by your church or because God has revealed it to you. If God revealed a Truth that is opposed to what you have been taught, would you accept it?

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 ---Debbie on 5/18/06
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Debbie, no genuine Christian (the elect) who are saved already can be deceived. That is not my opinion but Scripture. All those God chose from the foundation of the world willl be holy without blame before Him in love. They were predestine to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise and glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved"
That in the despensation of the fulness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth-in Him. Those He chose, will one day come to Christ, they will believe by faith, be sanctified, and at the Second Coming glorified. Nothing or no one can stop this process.
---Mark_V. on 9/1/11


\\Do you believe what you believe because it is what is taught by your church or because God has revealed it to you. \\

Can someone explain to me why so many people (especially on here) believe contradictory doctrines that they claim God has revealed to them?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/31/11


Yes I believe the truth. There was a time when I believed common doctrines taught by certain pastors, but after reading the scriptures I founf that the pastor was preaching false doctrine which sounded sweet to the flesh, but was nonetheless untrue. Some common false doctrines being spread among the body is "Once saved always saved", "God loves the world and everybody", "Workless salvation" and "Faith without works", all lies these are from the pit.
---Eloy on 8/31/11


A post worth rereading,
"I came out of an Assembly of God meeting, believeing as you said, that I could lose my salvation. God led us into a Grace meeting which puts us in a somewhat Bapticostal meeting. We believe in Eternal Security and the infilling of the Spirit. The Grace of God brings freedom in Jesus from all that would hinder us."
---Debbie on 4/26/08
---mima on 8/31/11


//it...does not really matter as long as we have been baptized, according to the scriptures.//

according to the scriptures, unless we are immersed in Spirit, no volume of water will save us. salvation is not washing away sin (as it was), it is in the belief in the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
---aka on 8/27/11




And NOW...

ALL these Holier-Than-Thou "Christians" will observe The Passover and Yom kippur and Sakkot...

And they will now ALL condemn the EVIL Pagan practices of Easter and Christmas.

No longer will they baptise babies or follow the Herecies of Pre-trib.

These "Holies" will now turn away and repent of their manmade Heretical rituals and return to G-d truths.

G-D WILL NOT BE MOCKED BY APOSTATES LIES!
---John on 8/27/11


God revealed the gospel of grace to our apostle Paul(1cor 15,1-4)and gave us a pattern to follow.
1 Tim. 1:16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me FIRST Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.
Ephes. 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward
Very simple.
---michael_e on 8/28/11


I respect my church and its leaders but I do not believe one doctrine they teach. Otherwise I follow the teachings. Sometimes wonder about this though.My church believe in baptizing in Jesus name only. I was baptized in the name of the Father/Son/Holy Spirit. I believe this is how baptism should be done. I have not been baptized according to the way my church says to do it. I probably won't but in Jesus name is okay,too. I guess. I don't really know the true answer to that. Both ways could be okay. I have heard it is just a twist on words and does not really matter as long as we have been baptized, according to the scriptures.
---Robyn on 8/26/11


I have accepted things God has revealed and would not be welcome in the church I attended and probably most Orthodox churches. But I will suffer this lose for the truth of Gods word.
---willa5568 on 8/22/11


"Do you believe what you believe because it is what is taught by your church or because God has revealed it to you." I believe what God has revealed to me through His living Word.
"If God revealed a Truth that is opposed to what you have been taught, would you accept it?" yes, if it's from God, I want it. He's been revealing truth since i first came to know Him, replacing the lies of the enemy which i had been taught and believed, and i trust Him to continue to do so, as it is His promise to lead us into all truth, to perfect us.
---chria9396 on 8/19/11




Most people are in a church because this is where theirmother or father went. Some are in a church because this is where their " gorlfriend" or " boyfriend" went and now that they are married, that is where they go. Some are in a church because a close friend invited them and they enjoyed it. Some are in a church because it is a popular nationwide or state city church. Once the become a member of that church, they are then forced to befend whatever the churches teaches. Very few people have actually compared all that the bible teaches to what their church teaches before they joing. Most are in a church because the church uses the name " Jesus" and that to them means the church teaches the truth.
---Francis on 8/18/11


Challenging question! 'cuz,we reallygot to know if we do get "new revelation" It better be "biblically sound" & Not something from "another false prophet" or lies fr the enemy! I would fast/pray ask God give me confirmation! Christian circleschurch's,friends,etc.. going exp. hear lots of stuff! That's why the bible Tim.Says search the scriptures righteouslydivide the word...
---ELENA on 8/16/11


Yes, but that is a tricky question. Of course if God has revealed a Truth to me I would believe it. The question is how do you know if it is God trying to reveal something to you or it is satan trying to trick you. Remember Eve. That's why I believe Jesus who knows man's ways and heart established His Holy Church.
Many people are lead away from God because they trusted in themselves. Many cult's leaders claim to have relevelation from God and left their own Church taking others with them to hell.
---Nicole on 5/5/08


Once you believe everything any church says, you run into trouble. Believe God who speaks to us through the King James Bible. Never believe everything in a Church Bible. These have errors which are man made.
---Jude on 4/5/07



What happens if the Church uses the KJB?
---Ruben on 5/5/08


I believe God above all and I refuse to attend a church and follow doctrines that are contrary to God's Holy Word. I could not continue in this hypocrisy. God will hold us responsible for working out our own soul salvation,not some preacher or church.
---Robyn on 5/4/08


You sure can LOSE your SAL.
Have you read the part,
that says, If a man who knows the ways of our lord & returns to his old ways and begins to Drink(drunk) & fight with people, That Jesus would come upon him Like a thief in the Night?
OR the part where Jesus says, that your name not be BLOTTED OUT of the Book of LIFE?
The Dog back to his own(vomit) & Pig back to her (mud) Parable?

Theres alot more.
---Duane_Dudley_Martin on 4/26/08


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Mima, I came out of an Assembly of God meeting, believeing as you said, that I could lose my salvation. God led us into a Grace meeting which puts us in a somewhat Bapticostal meeting. We believe in Eternal Security and the infilling of the Spirit. The Grace of God brings freedom in Jesus from all that would hinder us.
---Debbie on 4/26/08


Once you believe everything any church says, you run into trouble. Believe God who speaks to us through the King James Bible. Never believe everything in a Church Bible. These have errors which are man made.
---Jude on 4/5/07


Believing the Bible to be a personal letter of instructions, I am attempting to pay close attention to what the Bible says. For example I am very Baptist. But because the Lord gave me the gift of tongues I find myself at odds with what my Church teaches. Because I believe the Bible teaches eternal security I am unacceptable to Pennycoastal charismatic churches. And while they me to speak at their churches sometimes they do not except my beliefs, so I am left outside of the churches.
---mima on 4/5/07


--.I too have been given much wisdom that is contradictory to some current doctrines in the Christian church.--

Grace, this is what is called "gnosticism".
---Jack on 5/22/06


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we should believe the teachings of the bible with the leading of the holy spirit..not of any church altho they lead you into it first. If their teaching is in accordance to the bible, then its truth and has light. If God's truth is different to mans, then I go with God's and God's teachings alone.
---jana on 5/21/06


Debbie....thank you for your lovely words, I do so appreciate them!
Jack: Yes, I do believe my spirit is in tune with the Holy Spirit! I went to God in humility and was open to his teaching. I cannot argue with His message to me.
Elroy....I too have been given much wisdom that is contradictory to some current doctrines in the Christian church. As we grow in spirituality there is so much more to understand. That is an exciting prospect!
---Grace on 5/19/06


If my spirit doesn't agree with the Holy Spirit, it doesn't matter who else I agree with. The Word tells us that the Holy Spirit will lead us into all Truth. He is the ony One that can. Amos 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed? I have to agree with God before I dare to agree with anyone else.
---Debbie on 5/19/06


I believe what I believe because it is "the" truth. God has revealed many truths to me which are blatantly contrary to what most churches teach, and he also has revealed to me why these church bodies teach their misconceptions.
---Eloy on 5/19/06


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The important question, Grace and Debbie, is this:

Do YOUR Spirits agree with the Holy Spirit?
---Jack on 5/18/06


I trust my Pastor because he tells us to check his teachings with scripture & if he says anything not in scripture, to tell him! Not many Pastors I have been around says this . He is with the word & an instrument of God, meaning he tells the message how it is, Sound Doctrine.
---candice on 5/18/06


Grace, My Spirit agrees with your Spirit. You have had Grace revealed to your heart. An open mind and heart, coupled with trust in the Lord brings the Gospel of Grace straight to your inner man.

Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Eph 3:19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

I love the Word of God!
---Debbie on 5/18/06


Who to believe? God or man? It is a difficult question; I too went with God. How could I do otherwise? I saw a wonderful movie with Demi Moore "The Scarlett Letter" which demonstrates the difference between the laws of God, and the laws of man. I was able to gain a grasp of the difference between 'religion' and spirituality'. Religion is the intrepretation of Gods law by man, Spirituality is God's law given in understanding to man. One is bound in ego, and the other is given in grace.
---Grace on 5/18/06


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God has revealed many deep wonderful Truths to me and some are in direct opposition to what I had been taught. I then had to decide to believe God or man. Of course, God is the only reliable source. When you speak to others about a revealed Truth, and it doesn't agree with their doctrine, they reject it and discard it with out further thought. And as the Word says, the Truth will set you free, but not if it is rejected.
---Debbie on 5/18/06


As I studied the development of the religion of Christianity, I had many, many questions. I had to go back to the very basic source...God! I learned that I had only to ask the question, and listen with an open mind, free from blinders or preconceived ideas. As though my mind was fresh, clean and innocent. For me, this was being reborn. A new way of learning about our spiritual relationship, a new way of behaving toward others, and a new way to grasp the magnificence of the divinity of God.
---Grace on 5/18/06


Debbie......yes I so agree with you. It isn't that God withholds information from everyone, it is just that everyone is in a different stage of spiritual development. When you are ready to see, God will show you, and it is those moments that I define as miracles. When they happen, you feel as though a light is shinning brightly through you! It is so wonderful that you want to share it with others!!
---Grace on 5/18/06


YES! And, with great joy! I can tell you many, many times that God has given me an answer to my questions. And, the answers are always balanced and based on love. And, yes, yes, I had to put aside many ideas that I had been taught by my parents, culture and religion. But, the outcome is freedom from fear. It isn't easy to set ideas aside that have been taught to you since you were born but it it is worth it, because you begin to see God and gain peaceful understanding. More on this......
---Grace on 5/18/06


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When God reveals Truth from His Word, it is very exciting. You are bubbling over with joy from the Holy Ghost and you just want to tell everyone. Then reality set in, either those you are telling have already received the revelation or they think you are totally off the wall. Either way, they aren't excited with you. In fact, they just kind of look at you strange, and you wonder, why did I even say anything. God reveals the these Truths to us as we are ready to receive them according to our growth in Him.
---Debbie on 5/18/06


Two years later, our Pastor's Pastor stood in our pulpit and spoke the exact thing the Holy Spirit spoke to me. It wasn't much consolation that no one received it from him either. However, constant exposure to the person and work of Christ is opening some eyes to what God meant when He said what He said regarding that man and his number.
---Linda6563 on 5/18/06


I don't believe anything just because it is taught by any man or a church. I am sensitive to the witness of the Spirit and to His warnings. At a time when just about everybody was going on about who the antichrist was and what 666 stood for, the Holy Spirit showed me who the antichrist really was and why that number was the number of a man. I accepted it readily and completely, against what everybody else believed.
---Linda6563 on 5/18/06


Part 2.

As Charles Spurgeon, the great Baptist preacher said, some people are all excited about spreading what the Holy Spirit has told them, but show a marked lack of interest in hearing what the Holy Spirit might have already told others.
---Jack on 5/18/06


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If you DON'T believe what your church teaches, why do you bother to attend it?

If you don't believe it's the true church, and since Jesus said His church would be true, why aren't you out there looking for it?

OTOH, where did you get the idea that God would reveal a truth to you He's not already revealed to others? Or as St. Paul said, is it just to you the word of God has come?
---Jack on 5/18/06


Mima,a thought; wisdom would dictate you keep your doctrinal opinions to yourself. You aren't called to share them,you are called to win souls and that is a simple message of Christs birth,death,and resurection. How He saves. Only God changes beliefs so in always sharing your denominational, contrary doctrine, you are wasting your time, you could be building the Kingdom of God and thats all we are called to do. You can go to any church if you don't slap them in the face with your beliefs. Hold your peace.
---Darlene_1 on 5/18/06


I have been going to a Bible church for about a year now and it has brought me back into the Word. Before, I thought I knew a lot based on what I had been taught, but now that I have been reading it for myself, I have changed a LOT of what I thought was right. Now I hunger for the Word and read it constantly, always checking what I hear to see if it matches up with the Bible. I think God lead me to this church and believe that the Holy Spirit inspires the pastor, because he preaches right from the Word.
---chris on 5/18/06


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