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1611 KJV Bible Questions

Does anyone have a reproduction (doubt anyone has an original!) of the 1611 KJV Bible with all the marginal notes? I'd like to know if any notes from the translators exist for Psalm 12:7, Acts 12:4 and a few other passages.

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I have one but it is midnight and I must get up at 6am and go to work. Will look tomorrow night.
---shira on 10/27/07


Thomas Nelson has a reproduction of the original printing of the 1611 KJV. The only difference is that the original Black Letter (mistakenly called "Old English") typeface has been replaced by the modern Roman type.

It also reproduces the notes.

Keep in mind--the original notes of the KJV were pretty much limited to Scriptural parallels or alternate readings. It was agreed that doctrinal and explanatory notes would not be included.
---Jack on 4/26/07


Harold: I'm just as interested in what you meant as Alan_UK. It appears from your statement, that you believe there are no copies of the 1611 Authorized Version of the Scriptures; that would not be true! I have an online link to photographs (not just a later reworked reprint) of every single page of an original 1611 edition (there were at least two editions that year) of the Holy Scriptures!
---danie9374 on 11/11/06


Alan, Harold: OK, I finally figured out what Harold meant... he was under the false impression there weren't any notes at all in the 1611 AV edition. That's not true; there were many marginal notes about the text, alternate wordings, etc. What King James expressly did not want the AV to contain (as the Geneva Bible did!) were 'doctrinal notes' that interpreted Scripture passages as should be applied in one's life at the time; specifically, that God did not give kings rights over their people!
---danie9374 on 11/11/06


Harold "You won't find any because King James did not allow them. You might try the Geneva Bible"
Won't find any what?
---AlanUK_quent5969 on 11/9/06




You won't find any because King James did not allow them. You might try the Geneva Bible.
---Harold on 11/9/06


danie9374 - pls send me that website address that contains the ancient 1611 version as well - thanks!
---jeff on 7/12/06


danie9374 - pls send me that website address that contains the ancient 1611 version. lee1538
---lee1538 on 6/7/06


chris: You prob. don't check there anymore, but in light of what I found in an original 1611 Bible, I had to post more about Psalm 12:7 at: "Is the Holy Spirit a He or it?" since the KJV Translators commented on those words themselves in a marginal reference that SHOULD still be published with the text!
---danie9374 on 5/30/06


Would there be any purpose in pointing out that what looks like an "f" in such words as "verfe", "mofte", and similar places is actually a long "s", and that if one looks carefully, there is not the center stroke characteristic of the 6th letter of the lower case alphabet?

Probably not.
---Jack on 5/27/06




Thank you everyone who considered looking for an original 1611 edition for me. I HAVE FOUND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR! It's a rather long URL at a secular university, so if you need it you'll have to write to me. It's the 'real deal 1611 edition' with Black Lettering, marginal notes, everything!
---danie9374 on 5/26/06


Jack, I checked on that edition by Nelson pub. as best I could at both Amazon and other Bible stores online, but no seller showed a single page from it nor talked about any marginal notes, so I have no idea what's in it. IF you want (anyone wants) to know for sure, look up LUKE 17:36; the original note by the KJV Translators will read: "This 36. verfe is wanting in moft of the Greeke copies." ['f'='s'] Showing they didn't always use a 'majority text' view even with the very few mss. they had.
---danie9374 on 5/25/06


I do have Thomas Nelson's reprint of the original KJV of 1911.

I just don't have it readily at hand to answer obscure questions about the notes.

Most center-column editions of the KJV will have the original 1611 notes.
---Jack on 5/25/06


I have no clue danie9374, I didnt know you needed scans. I thought you were just needing the notes and thought maybe if you contacted them, they would help you out with that. They are supposed to be Christians and Christians shouldn't charge money for everything. It was a shot. If I needed something like that, I would probably contact and ask... the worst they could do to me is say no, the best would be giving me what I was looking for.
---chris on 5/25/06


Ah, chris, do you really think since he's selling the Bible facsimiles commercially for $250.00 (full-size for $2,000.00!), that he's going to scan some pages and e-mail them to me!? They also *sell* an electronic scan on CD, *but only* as part of a $200.00 package! Anyone have just 1611KJV on CD? My search at both public and univ. libraries came up bust since they had none with original typeface including the marginal notes!
---danie9374 on 5/25/06


Contact The Bible Museum (Rare Bible Showroom) in Phoenix AZ. which is run by Dr. Craig H. Lampe, who has the largest collection of historical Bibles. I would bet they have an original there. I know they have some of the handwritten Tyndale New Testaments (translated 100s by hand to English before the printing press) which would be neat to see.
---chris on 5/23/06


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Jack: I don't need to know anything about the 1611 (and following) editions other than if there were any specific notes for the passages cited. I've finally located a library with a reprint so will eventually find out for myself, since it appears you do not have one. (I also want to make a digital scan of the pages I'm interested in; unless someone else wants to for me? Write if so.)
---danie9374 on 5/23/06


Danie, as I said the original 1611 KJV's notes are limited to scriptural cross-references and possible alternate readings. I forgot to mention the "headnotes" at the beginning of each chapter and printed on the top of the page.

Explanatory notes (such as filled the Geneva Bible or Schofield Reference Bible) were deliberately omitted in the 1611 version.
---Jack on 5/23/06


So what's the point Mike? I'm looking for the KJV Translator's original marginal notes! Guess I'll have to go to a library somewhere to find them; I'm unemployed and can't even easily access the books I already have in many boxes in this 1 room apt.
---danie9374 on 5/22/06


I have an edition from 1640, and it doesn't include notes in the text. There are lots of study guides, and a complete alternative Psalter, but those are the only dofferences to then and now.
---mike8384 on 5/22/06


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Jack: So what are the notes for those passages if any? Or don't you have one?
---danie9374 on 5/22/06


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