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Works Or Disobedience

Is the following statement true or false in your opinion? "To believe that you can lose your salvation means that you believe certain "works" are necessary for a person to remain saved". Comments

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Salvation is a free gift. You can lose it if you disobey God & fall away from him ,not repenting or returning to him.The bible speaks of "obeying" God not just "believing".
---candice on 8/27/08


False. The bible says that by grace we are saved through faith & that not of ourselves but the gift of God so that no man can boast.(Ephesians 2:8-9) We are sealed unto the day of redemption by the Holy Spirit(Ephesians 4:30) We are to work out, cultivate, & mature our salvation with reverence toward God.(Philippians 2:12) It doesn't say " work for your salvation". It was given to us freely, but it costs us our lives.
---Rickey on 10/30/07


scripture tells us that not one will be lost that is saved.why do you think scriptures tells us that we will be judge for our good works and others done in the body??those described as not acceptrable will burn as the grass, I beleive the bible describes.Now THAT at the judgement seat will christ will reward and rubuke his saints. guess that means you can be in heaven having sined and not repented before death.or GOD IS JUST KEEPING TRACK.
---tom2 on 6/17/06


You cannot loose your salvation.If you are truly saved you are saved once.we mimick christ he died once for all, we die to self once. now many live unfruitful lives,and backsliden lives.but once saved you don,t need worry about loosing anything except a great reward for works done in christ.
---tom2 on 6/17/06


My comment is scriptural. It refers to saved people not lost once saved always saved.jesus said the father will not loose one.
---tom2 on 6/17/06




If you "lose" your salvation, then you were never really saved/committed in the first place. If you get saved and fall in love with Jesus and obey his word, how can you lose your salvation? If you start sinning on a CONTINUAL basis, then you never really KNEW HIM. TO know Him is to stay committed to HIM. How can you sin CONTINUALLY over and over when you're in love with Jesus? Where's the conviction? See my point? There's no conviction because you never really KNEW him in the first place.
---Donna9759 on 6/2/06


I agree with what others said and the bible, we are saved by grace through faith. WE CAN lose our salvation. If someone falls back from God (backslide) they lose their relationship with the Lord. To come back to God, one must be convicted and repent. Then their relationship with God will have to start all over again. They can't pick up where they left off. But if one does fall back on God and never repents, they will be going to hell.
---Rebecca_D on 6/1/06


Tom2: IF you can back up especially the last part of your post (nobody will be lost) I will suggest we would need to have a major revision of the Bible but not to worry...
---Pierr5358 on 6/1/06


You don't work to REMAIN saved, but if you ARE saved, there will be continual changes in your life, causing you to WANT to do good works- THAT is proof that you have been reborn, the desire to do good works, what pleases the Father. Being 'saved' is not a one time trip to the alter- it's a daily PROGRESSIVE walk. Study the parable of the seeds that fell on different kinds of ground. They were all seeds, and most of them "started" to grow- but not all of those 'survived' as flourishing plants
---T.S. on 6/1/06


+once saved you can never loose your salvation.your rewards in heaven my be minute.The bible tells us at the judgement seat of christ all saved will be judged for their works while in the body,whether good or bad, and they will be rewarded.and the word also says not one will be lost.
---tom2 on 5/31/06




2/... To remain saved one must still believe that Jesus died on the Cross for them and rose from the dead, and remain faithful to the Lord i.e. obey Him.
---Helen_5378 on 5/31/06


Works can never in any way contribute to a person's salvation. The price for salvation was paid in full by Jesus on the Cross -- when He cried "It is finished" that was it -- finished and nothing to be added. "The wages of sin is death" ... falling into sin and walking away from the Lord and remaining in that state is how you can lose your salvation... also apostasising too.
---Helen_5378 on 5/31/06


#2 Eph 2:8-10 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Out works have no affect on our salvation,it is a free gift. If we do the good works that have been ordained for us to do, we will gain rewards.
---Debbie on 5/31/06


#1 Isa 64:6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
---Debbie on 5/31/06


It is false.
---Bruce5656 on 5/31/06


2) We are saved at the moment we are born again, are being saved throughout the rest of our life (sanctified, glory to glory...) and will be saved when we go to be with Him. He is the Alpha and Omega, the author and finisher of our faith. Just as we look to Jesus to initially save us, we also look to Him to work out our salvation. We have our part, but our eyes are to be on Him, not ourselfs. Works can be pride/self. It's about Jesus, not me or you.
---Christina on 5/31/06


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1) Salvation is by grace, and therefore the work of God to His glory. God also gets the glory for the work in us (He works in us both to will and to do according to His good pleasure). AND He is faithful, and does not loose one of His own. He finishes what He began. He that began a good work in you WILL bring it to completion in the day of Christ Jesus our Lord. This to me is a promise of His work.
---Christina on 5/31/06


I am sealed. In God's hand. too many everlastings and forevers in the bible. Christ died so we could have everlasting life. Works is just a product of that.
---shira on 5/31/06


jesus refers to born again people as being in Gods hand, and that not one will be lost.
---tom2 on 5/31/06


Some people seem to believe this. It appears to me that if gaining salvation does not require "works", keeping salvation shouldn't either. Some have trouble accepting this. They say that grants Christians license to sin, [tho most people are quite able to sin, even without a license! :-)] Born again believers aren't trying to see how much sin they can get away with. They WANT to live righteously out of love for their Lord.
---Donna2277 on 5/31/06


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Yes I say it's true.

But I don't give my opinion based on a careful examination of facts.

The real evidence is the presance of the Holy Spirit in my own body.

When I pray to God through Jesus Christ in humility and all due reverance God is faithful to confirm it EVERY TIME.

He turns my muscles to water and peace that can't be traced fills my soul. This is my confirmation that I am eternally his- no matter what.
---Z-Pharisee on 5/30/06


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