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What Is Baptismal Regeneration

I believe "baptismal regeneration" is one of the greatest hindrance to salvation. The Catholic, Lutheran, Church of Christ, United Pentecostal Church and others practiced this. What is your definition of "baptismal regeneration"?

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My definition of baptismal regeneration is the same as that given by our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ in John 3 during his interview with Nicodemus.

It's repeated by the apostle Peter who wrote "Baptism doth now save us."
---Jack on 3/2/08


Jack do you believe what you said? You said, "How can ANYTHING Jesus commanded be optional?" ---Jack on 6/4/06
Jesus also said if your brother have need and ask of you then give to him.
I am in need of a new suit and ask you to supply it. Do you want my address?
Baptism is the Believer's first step of obedience. If he dies before baptism he is still redeemed.
---Elder on 6/5/06


Helen said: "Sacraments" are not in God's word.

Rx: I disagree. They are throughout God's word.
---Tina5349 on 6/4/06


Helen said, "It is God alone who saves," "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

Rx: I agree. But Helen, what do you do with Matt 28:19 and 1 Peter 3:21? Also, you will never find the word "Trinity" in the scriptures, but I assume that you believe the doctrine of the Trinity to be true? Jesus *did* use sacraments. Was He not circumcised? Was He not baptized? Did He not participate in the Passover meal? Not for His salvation, but for ours.
---Tina5349 on 6/4/06


Tina 5349 - "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17). The message of the Cross of Christ has to be preached, then the Holy Spirit moves on the person and convicts them of their sin. It is God alone who saves, and He never in His word uses "sacraments" or anything else than His preached word to do it. The Spirit of God moves on those words and thereby speaks to the lost soul. "Sacraments" are not in God's word.
---Helen_5378 on 6/4/06




To obey Christ is to follow him, apart from which there is no salvation. This is one of the reasons why very few people are actually saved: because they do not obey all of his commands, but instead they follow only part of his command which they pick and choose to their liking, and they disregard or discard the required rest. Man will live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God. Every word of Christ is pure, and nothing to be refused, and one of his words is to be baptized.
---Eloy on 6/4/06


If baptism were unnecessary, then the Lord himself would not have Commanded all to be baptized and he himself would not have been baptized, but the truth is he did Command it and he himself was baptized as a witness to all that he fulfills all righteousness, also the truth is that if you refuse baptism as he commands, then according to the Lord's own words you will be damned.
---Eloy on 6/4/06


Let me paraphrase REv. Herb and see if I understand him right:

Jesus commanded water baptism to be done, but it's not required for salvation.

How can ANYTHING Jesus commanded be optional?
---Jack on 6/4/06


Helen said: "Salvation is totally 100% the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross and His resurrection. Nothing else plays a part in salvation."

Rx: I agree totally. I never said the sacraments or ministers play a part in salvation. I said that they are the delivery system God has chosen to impart that salvation to humans. How, in your opinion, is salvation delivered to human beings if not through Word and sacraments?
---Tina5349 on 6/4/06


Water baptism has nothing to do with salvation. It is not needed for salvation. Church of Christ believes you arn't saved untill you have been dunked in water. If that is the case, then it is impossible for a person to get saved in the desart.

I am getting ready to set a debate up between a Church of Christ and Baptist on this subject.
---Rev_Herb on 6/4/06




Jesus said to them, "He that obeys and IS BAPTIZED WILL BE SAVED; but he that obeys not will be damned." Mark 16:16
---Eloy on 6/4/06


Tina5349 - Salvation is totally 100% the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross and His resurrection. Nothing else plays a part in salvation ... you are adding to God's Word by saying that sacraments and ministers play a part -- THAT IS A LIE.
---Helen_5378 on 6/3/06


Helen said, "Nothing and no-one saves but Jesus Christ Himself... "

Rx: Agreed! Salvation's achievement was won for us on the cross 2000 years ago. Salvation's delivery is through His Word and sacraments. Baptism is not an act which we offer to God but one in which God baptizes us through a minister functioning in his place.
---Tina5349 on 6/3/06


Ditto what Jack said. Also, Mark 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."

Titus 3:5 "He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit."

Romans 6:4 "We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life."
---Tina5349 on 6/3/06


Baptismal regeneration is when one believes in water baptism for salvation. Nothing and no-one saves but Jesus Christ Himself... that is why Jesus gave His life on the Cross for the sin of the world. God says in Galatians 1:8,9 that if anyone preaches any other gospel other than Christ crucified let him be accursed....Amen. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life and nobody goes to the Father but by Him (Jesus).
---Helen_5378 on 6/3/06


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