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i cannot prove anything.

i can state clearly about the Eloyhim that i worship...a Godliness that served me by providing a Way back to the Father. A Godliness who dispatched the Holy Spirit to comfort and to convict...to draw us to Him, so we can get to know His Son.

Eloyhim created the Heavens and earth and reigns (from as my on-line friend says) from Aleph to Tav in time, space, and magnitude.
---aka on 1/7/13


MarkV, do you ever find it amazing that somehow the SDA turn every blog into a debate about the Sabbath? It cracks me up!!!

My thought about their worshiping on Saturday is this:
Col2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.
I don't think they understood the part about the Sabbath being a shaddow of things to come, i.e. Christ being our rest.

My question is are they observing all the Sabbaths? See Lev chapter 23. Just wondering???
---trey on 1/7/13


One God

Ex 3:14
[...]I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Is 44:6-8
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts, I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is no God.
[...]even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God, I know not any.
Is 55:11
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Jn 1:1-14,3:16-17,14:13
---char on 1/7/13


God says he doesn't take pleasure in the death of the wicked.

On the other hand MarkV seems to take joy in those who will suffer.

No, Mark, you ain't a prophet: you're a false prophet.
---Marc on 1/7/13


Jer 32:17
Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:

Ex 15:11 "Who among the gods is like you, O LORD? Who is like you--majestic in holiness, awesome in glory,

Ps 71:19
Thy righteousness also, O God, is very high, who hast done great things: O God, who is like unto thee!

Ps 97:9 For you, O LORD, are the Most High over all the earth, you are exalted far above all gods.

2 Sam 7:22 thou art great, O LORD God: for there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee
---chria9396 on 1/7/13




Thomas, Which "Gods" are you specifically referring to?
---Gordon on 1/7/13


what day do you consider the sabbath? you are really into keeping the commandments aren't you? what happened to grace? what happened to "My yoke is easy and My burden is light"?
---shira4368 on 1/7/13
1: Exodus 20:10 the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God

2: Ecc 12:13 Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

3: Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

4: 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Do you consider abstaining from adultery a burden?
Do you consider honouring your parents a burden?
Do you consider worshiping Jehovah a burden?
---francis on 1/7/13


francis, what day do you consider the sabbath? you are really into keeping the commandments aren't you? what happened to grace? what happened to "My yoke is easy and My burden is light"? you need to consider the thing as a whole and not just parts.
---shira4368 on 1/7/13


Yes shira4368, he right!
Mat_5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

But, remember
Mat_11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Mat_13:32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/7/13


Marc, it is ok for you to see me as a prophet. In fact you can see me anyway you want. It is your choice. I do stand for the God of the Bible. And present His nature, attributes and character to those who choose to demean His name so they will know that there will be hell to pay for those who disgrace His name. I know of One Prophet, Priest and King, and His name is Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God.
---Mark_V. on 1/7/13




Francis.
"whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10

Francis, you're GUILTY of ALL.

And what's the outcome for Francis for being guilty of ALL?

Francis, you may recall this quote of yours from an earlier post:
"Can a person go to Heaven no matter how they act, post-profession of Christ? NO NO NO"

As you're GUILTY of ALL the law, then your doctrine says "NO, NO, NO" to your salvation.

In contrast to this false gospel of works, consider the true gospel of grace where the thief on the cross who called Jesus "Lord" was saved without any obedience of the law.

Grace and works CANNOT be mixed, rom 11:6
---Haz27 on 1/7/13


Shira: "I wonder if God is amazed how people take the sabbath so serious."

I think He is more amazed at how lightly people who claim to love Him regard His Commandments. He thought them important enough to not only speak them audibly from Mt. Sinai, but also to engrave them in stone. He ordered them placed in the most holy place on earth - the Arc of the Covenant. Transgression of them carries the death penalty. How can anyone treat them lightly.

The Sabbath Commandment is the one that defines our God as the true Creator of heaven and earth. Without it, one might be worshipping some 2-bit pagan deity. He began the Sabbath Commandment with "Remember the Sabbath day" How quickly we forget.

---jerry6593 on 1/7/13


---shira4368 on 1/6/13
James 2:10 whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:

We should all ten commandments seriously. We cannot say that we serve God 7 days a week, and not keep the 7th day as the sabbath.

Isaiah 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day, and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable, and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD
---francis on 1/6/13


MarkV writes "If you have nothing against me, why do you persecute me? From the first time I began answering on behalf of God."

Mark endlessly denies he's a prophet of God yet here he is saying he's answering on behalf of God.

Hey, Mark: Isn't that what a prophet does: answer on behalf of God?
---Marc on 1/6/13


Rom_6:1, To say I obey, is not to realizes, you do!
1Joh_1:9, this is what you should say!

I choose to obey, and again you make yourself a transgressor.
But, I understand you just don't see.

Rom 13:13, Yes let's!
Jas_2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

You can't say I choose to obey!
Then transgress the Holy law, and still say I obey, it make you a liar.

Brother in your thinking, you've accused everyone in the world of sin.
But, you don't see that, do you?

Mat_5:23-24 Be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
2Co_12:9

Do you love everyone on earth?
Don't say yes!
You see?
---TheSeg on 1/6/13


I wonder if God is amazed how people take the sabbath so serious. does it really matter is it is sunday or saturday? I serve the Lord 7 days a week and go to church sunday morning and night and any other time the door is open.
---shira4368 on 1/6/13


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1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but ( what is important is) the keeping of the commandments of God.

The bible does not say try to keep the commandments of God, it simple says keep the commandments of God

In 1 Cor 7:19, speaking to those who accept the righteousness of Jesus by faith, that what is important is not whether or not your are circumcized. What is important to those who accept Jesus as saviour, is the keeping of the commandments of God.

There is the realiztion among believers, that the reason Jesus had to die, is because of sin ( trangression of the law) and so with that understanding, we by the power of Christ in us, keep the commandments of God
---francis on 1/6/13


Rom_3:23-24:
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God,
---TheSeg on 1/5/13

Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

I choose to obey.
If I sin, he is faithful to forgive

Romans 13:13 Let us walk honestly,...and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof.

Just because I have sinned ( past tense) does not mean that I must continue to sin, and make allowances to sin

God's ability to keep me obedient is FAR GREATER than satan's ability to make me disobey.
---francis on 1/6/13


The Spirit of God within me, speaks to my conscience,
---Mark_V. on 1/6/13

Yet you do not know which day of the week is the first or the seventh

I would think that someone like you, who has a heart for God, who would keep the sabbath day as God commanded if only he knew which day was the seventh, would have a revelation from the spirit to reveal to him which day is the first and which day is the seventh

John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:

why hasn't this spirit in you reveal to you the truth about which day is the first and which is the seventh?

I am sure that with you deep desire to keep the sabbath, the spirit would have already revealed that to you
---francis on 1/6/13


francis, you now say,

"---Mark_V. on 1/5/13
Maybe you do not know which day of the week is the 7th day. maybe you do not wish to know. The reason why do you do know that the 7th day of the week is Saturday is called unbelief"


yes, unbelief in what you say. Unbelief in your legalism. Unbelief in SDA theology. Unbelief in E.G. White, Charles Russell, Jim Jones and so on. The Spirit of God within me, speaks to my conscience, and My conscience is happy for I rest in the Lord Jesus Christ not on a day.
---Mark_V. on 1/6/13


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MarkV: "But you do not even know what the Seventh Day God was talking about."

It is the day after six days of Creation. It's the day that no manna fell in the wilderness. It is the day that Jesus kept:

Luk 4:16 ... as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

It is the day between Good Friday and Easter Sunday, when Jesus and all His disciples "rested according to the commandment".


"Others enter Sunday as their day of rest as the New Testament people did"

Nowhere in the NT is Sunday established as a day of rest. You are trafficing in falsehood.


---jerry6593 on 1/6/13


So then let be truthful do you keep the law all the time.
Or are you now saying you are only human and can only try to keep the law?
But, come short of the glory of God!
Just like everybody else in this world.

As it says in Rom_3:23-24:
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God,
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

And understand this, you are!
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Not in anything you do or don't do, simply by the faith given to you by God!
To believe the free gift of God, the fulfillment of his promise!
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/5/13


you're not saying I have no sin, because, God has forgiven me!
You're saying I have no sins, because, I keep the law!
---TheSeg on 1/5/13
I have never said ANY of those things

Read my post on how do we get righteousness
read any of my many post on righteousness by faith

What you will see is that i am 100 percent reliant on Jesus and HIS righteousness for everything
---francis on 1/5/13


francis, you keep giving me scripture, as if to say see.
I know what God has done!

But, you're not saying I have no sin, because, God has forgiven me!
You're saying I have no sins, because, I keep the law!

If you just look at the scripture, you gave you'll see it's always God doing, never man!
When he said keep my commandment in your heart, he meant it!

Keep them in your heart. But you're not doing this.
You're doing it as an outward appearance, dont you see that?

A truthful man, would do just that, be truthful!
In no way would a sincere and truthful man say I am!
You have no cloak for your sins!
Unless they are forgiven!
God's Peace
---TheSeg on 1/5/13


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---Thomas on 6/7/06
Tell us of your God, lest ambiguity and ignorance cloud anyone's response.
---Phil on 1/5/13


Just one minute jerry6593, Im telling you to keep Sunday, why?
Whats the difference between Saturday the Sunday?

On both of these days, if you had a sheep and it fell, wouldnt you?

So I dont care which of these days you want to make holy days and rest your bodies.
Believe me! You will ever find God resting on either one of these two days!

My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Is this not clear?

What Im talking about is not a Saturday, Sunday or weekdays!
Those were given to you. To do what you see fit to do!
You want to try and make them Holy, thats up to you.

For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
francis!
---TheSeg on 1/5/13


---TheSeg on 1/4/13
1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

God's ability to keep us from sinning, is far greater than Satan's ability to get us to sin.

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

---Mark_V. on 1/5/13
Maybe you do not know which day of the week is the 7th day. maybe you do not wish to know. The reason why do you do know that the 7th day of the week is Saturday is called unbelief
---francis on 1/5/13


---TheSeg on 1/4/13
Job 31:1 I made a covenant with mine eyes, why then should I think upon a maid?

Job had never committed adultery, nor had he ever looked at another women with adulterous intent
Job had no issues with trusting God to keep him from sin, and he lived in what we call OT times.

It seems impossible to some, that others would obey God and walk with God.
Why you ask:
2 Timothy 3:5 they have a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:

Jude 1:24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, ....,

The purpose of Jesus dying, is not only to keep us out of the wages of sin, death, but through his spirit in us to strengthen us and keep us from sin in our mortal bodies
---francis on 1/5/13


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francis, you answer with:

"Those of us who enter into this sabbath rest, we do as God did, we stop our work on the 7th day
---francis"


But you do not even know what the Seventh Day God was talking about. You enter Saturday because the Old Testament people make Saturday their seventh day. Others enter Sunday as their day of rest as the New Testament people did. But you insist that New Testament people follow the law given to the Israel. And if they don't they are breaking the Ten Commandments. But they are not, because nowhere in the Ten Commandments did God say Saturday. So stay under the Law if it is so important for you, we sure don't mind.
---Mark_V. on 1/5/13


MarkV: "The Seg, it's pretty clear that francis and jerry rest on the written law"

No, we rest on the written Word of God. That Word says "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy". You, on the other hand, rest only on the authority of the Catholic Church, which says "Keep holy the day dedicated to the Sun god". Where in the Bible does God change His mind about His eternal Commandment and sanctify the first day of the week over the seventh?



---jerry6593 on 1/5/13


francis
I think, for some reason you think. I'm telling you, don't keep the law.
Nothing could be further from the truth, then not trying to keep the law.

But it's one thing, when you lie to me or yourself.
But, don't lie in the face of God.

Every time you tell me, I keep the law or even the Sabbath!
Rest assured, I know. You don't!

You like so many, look at the law as, if it's just a thing you can walk all over.
Either you do it or you don't!
And if you can't, don't worry its ok.
Just ask for forgiveness!

For what, you don't even know what you done!
The truth has no meaning!

I'm sorry, please forgive me
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/4/13


Mark,I dont blame francis or anyone.Ive come to understand that if I think I know anything.
I am a professional clown employed to entertain a king or nobleman in the middle Ages.

francis
Not by works of righteousness which we have done,but according to his mercy-
That being justified by his grace-

But avoid foolish questions,-strivings about the law,
for they are unprofitable and vain.

A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject,
Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth,being condemned of himself!
I didnt say this!

I understand.You are keeping the Sabbath!
Then the next day you work,until the next Sabbath!
But Gen_2:2says,God ended his work!
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/4/13


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What is this saying?
For if Jesus had given them rest,
It must be given!
---TheSeg on 1/2/13

Actually this rest refers to what happened under Joshua ( jesus)

Joshua 22:4 And now the LORD your God hath given rest unto your brethren,

Hebrews is saying that this is not the rest of the Sabbath day.

That there is still a sabbath rest for God's people, those who enter the rest which remains, they rest from their work as God did from his, which is rest on the seventh day.

The contrary interpetation says rest from works of trying to be saved, but God has never had to rest from works of trying to be saved

Those of us who enter into this sabbath rest, we do as God did, we stop our work on the 7th day
---francis on 1/4/13


The Seg, it's pretty clear that francis and jerry rest on the written law, and that we rest in Christ. There is not enough scripture that can convince them otherwise in this point, God the Spirit has to convict them of the Truth, which is Christ. No one can, no matter how much Scripture is presented to them. Such a God cannot be found out by searching. He can be known only as He is revealed to the heart by the Holy Spirit through the Word. It is true that creation demonstrates a Creator so plainly, that men is without excuse"
---Mark_V. on 1/4/13


There are only TWO rests mentioned:
No, one is talked about completely, that's the one that was given.

And one is mentioned, that's the one that was not given!
The one were:
As he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest:

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.


What is this saying?
For if Jesus had given them rest,
It must be given!


how exactly did God rest, that we can also rest as God did:
francis on 1/2/13

What did God do?
Gen_2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it:
Do likewise!

Rom_3:19
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/2/13


Why does everyone think he is talking about the Saturday Sabbath,
---TheSeg on 1/2/

There are only TWO rests mentioned:
1: Hebrews 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest,
Joshua 22:4 And now the LORD your God hath given rest unto your brethren

This was peace in the promise land, which those who did not believe could not enter

2: Hebrews 4:4 And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

Hebrews 4:10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

how exactly did God rest, that we can also rest as God did:
Hebrews 4:4 And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
---francis on 1/2/13


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For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.

He is talking about another day, God's day of rest, God Sabbath!

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Why does everyone think he is talking about the Saturday Sabbath, the day he gave the Jews to rest?
You must enter in!
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/2/13


Follower, your interpretation of (1 John 5:2,3) is wrong. Nowhere in those passages does it say "Ten Commandments." John here repeats this phrase in two verses. Obedience is third characteristic of an overcomer. John weaves faith, love and obedience all together inextricably. John clearly defines who these overcomers are. They are all who believe that Jesus is God's Son. The overcomers are all believers, all of them (1 John 2:13). Also, nowhere in (1 John 5: does it say "Saturday is the Sabbath." When the word of God speaks of keeping His commandments, it really means to be obedient. Yet no one is completely obedient, since all sons of God are chasten, and if not chasten, then you are not a son of God but an illegit.
---Mark_V. on 1/2/13


MarkV: "The Spirit of the law is in our hearts. Not written some where."

Oh really??? If you are indeed born again, then you are under the New Covenant, and the LAW of God is WRITTEN IN YOUR HEART. [Jer 31:31, Heb 8:8]


---jerry6593 on 1/2/13


MarkV writes "If you have nothing against me, why do you persecute me? From the first time I began answering on behalf of God."

Mark endlessly denies he's a prophet of God yet here he is saying he's answering on behalf of God.

Hey, Mark: Isn't that what a prophet does: answer on behalf of God?
---Marc on 1/2/13


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I believe God!!
Most false teachers say that the 7th day is just a day like any other.
Most false teachers say that any day cane be your sabbath

But I believe God, and I have no sabbath of my own.

Exodus 20:10 But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God:..For [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth,.. rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

I believe that is true, and that the 7th day is no odinary day, it has been blessed and sanctified by God.

I have never read where God has removed his blessing from it. The only sabbath for me, is the sabbath of the lord MY GOD who created everything in six days

have you own sabbaths, have you own gods
---francis on 1/1/13


---Mark_V. on 1/1/13
According to you, The Spirit of the law is in our hearts you do not keep the 7th day as the sabbath.

In all of these you go by the letter: serving other gods, worshiping idols, taking God's name in vain, honoring father and mother, murder, theft, adultery, coveting,false witness,

You do not bow down to an idol and say it's just your body and your heart is with God, you don't murder and say it is just your action, your heart is with God, you do not sleep with a married woman and say it is just your body you heart is with God. In 9/10 commandments you go by the letter

so tell me why it is that you think that Jesus has become a day of the week, does you week have 6 days, since Jesus is your 7th day?
---francis on 1/1/13


Only a converted mind seeking Gods will knows who God the divine creator of all is when he said:

"I am the LORD your God"

We know Elohim by keeping his 7th day Sabbath holy because he created this day to be observed forever, Exodus 31:16

An unconverted mind is taught Gods laws are hard contradicting God who says his 10 holy laws are not a burden, 1 John 5:3

An unconverted mind cannot understand the only way to have rest in the Lord is by resting on his day. A converted mind understands you honor the Lord of the Sabbath (Christ Jesus) by doing as he says - keeping it.

Elohim was perfectly clear only those who honor his Sabbath day and keep it holy are his, Exodus 31:13, 20:12,20.
---Follower_of_Christ on 1/1/13


francis, it you have the true God of the Bible, why are you still under the written letter of the Law? No one who is born of the Spirit is under the letter of the law. You promote people to stay under the law, you argue for it, you write it down everyday to show it is there and people are not keeping it, and all because of Saturday Sabbath.
The Spirit of the law is in our hearts. Not written some where. Our Sabbath rest is in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 1/1/13


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Markie:

Too bad you don't know the true God who wrote the Ten Commandments, maybe you'd be less defiant, and more obedient to Him.

Any two-bit criminal thinks that he is above the law - that the law applies to others, but not to him. Are you a two-bit criminal, Markie?


---jerry6593 on 1/1/13


there is only one God. He created the heavens and the earth. He made man from the dust of the earth and breathed life into him. no other god can do anything. most are myth and the rest are dead. God is awesome and He sent His Son to die for all of us who are not worthy. If you have another god, you are damned.
---shira4368 on 12/31/12


Mark_V. God is not trying to enter buildings made with hands.

Ephesians 3:17 Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith,

Colossians 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts,

1 Peter 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts:

Romans 2:15 shew the work of the law written in their hearts

Hebrews 8:10 I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts:

My God lives in My heart he goes everywhere with me. Your god is confined to a building in which he got lucked out
---francis on 12/31/12


---Mark_V. on 12/31/12
You do know that the church is not a building right?
---francis on 12/31/12


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francis, when you give a passage at least read the context. God was not knocking on the door of anyone heart in (Rev. 3:20) You chose the common interpretation taught by (free willers). But rather than allowing for that interpretaion the context demands that Christ was seeking to enter this church that bore His name, but lacked a single true believer. The poignant letter, you hear this? letter, was His knocking if one member would recognize His spiritual bankruptcy and respond in saving faith, He would enter the church. He says,'"He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit, (did you hear this?), the Spirit says to the churches (in the letter)." First it is a letter to the church, second, no one had a spiritual ear to hear.
---Mark_V. on 12/31/12


My God stands at the door and knock, and only sups with those who let him in
my God knocks at the door of peoples heart and waits until they let him in
---francis on 12/29/12

My God is God. He doesn't ask permission from any sinner.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/12

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Hebrews 4:7 if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.


satan possess people without asking asking them, Jehovah does not do that. So your God cannot be Jahovah. I am not saying that your god is satan, just not Jehovah
---francis on 12/30/12


'My God is God'- MarkV.

Yet MarkV's 'God' is still 'in the flesh' sitting next to another 'God'.

'He resurrected from the dead in the flesh. And is now seated next to the Father'- MarkV 12/27/12.

Thus MarkV's 'God and creator Jesus Christ' is ostensibly a human being sitting next to the Father. MarkV's 'God' is a man 'in the flesh'! MarkV will tell us the holy spirit is also 'God'. Is the HS also 'in the flesh'? To be co-equal they must all be!

What MarkV preaches is trinitarian polytheism.

MarkV strips the Almighty God of his true divine nature & preaches blasphemy. Christ was of course resurrected 'in the spirit' (1 Pe.3:18 NAS) and ascended to the Father to stand at his Father's right hand- Acts 7:55.
---David8318 on 12/30/12


Yes very true Francis, God knocks, and he does not enter unless invited.

Difficult for an unconverted mind to understand Gods love and his greater purpose to call those today who are willing to serve and obey him - no force used.

Satan seeks to deceive many into belief that god is a monster to be feared for his oppressive force.

Elohim (Jehovah) as divine creator of all, through his plan, offers mankind a choice, it is the same choice Abram had when offering his son for sacrifice, he could have refused. This is why the Lord never went to anyone, they came to him. It is also why he instructed the Apostles to go into each city and to dust off their shoes and continue on their way if they were not accepted.
---Follower_of_Christ on 12/30/12


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Markie: "Jerry, your god cannot write anything."

Oh really. Here's what MY GOD wrote.

Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Too bad you don't know the true God who wrote the Ten Commandments, maybe you'd be less defiant, and more obedient to Him.

Any two-bit criminal thinks that he is above the law - that the law applies to others, but not to him. Are you a two-bit criminal, Markie?


---jerry6593 on 12/30/12


francis, you better read the context of the passages you quoted. Your interpretation is warp. God doesn't knock on peoples door, He is not an SDA, J. Witness or Mormon wanting to come in, and is kick-out or have the door slam in His face.
My God is God. He doesn't ask permission from any sinner.
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35).
"There are many devices in a man's heart, nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand" (Prov. 19:21). Man like you would strip Deity of His Omnipotence if you could, which only gives evidence that "the carnal mind is enmity against God" (Rom. 8:7).
---Mark_V. on 12/30/12


Your god is impotent, cannot save anyone. People have to let him if they so want to.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/12

Clealy your god is not Jehovah
Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

My God stands at the door and knock, and only sups with those who let him in

If seems that your god just knocks down the door, or forces himself into a peson house.

No my God knocks at the door of peoples heart and waits until they let him in
---francis on 12/29/12


Jerry, your god cannot write anything. My God is a Law unto Himself, for He is autonomus and Omnipotent. Your god is impotent, cannot save anyone. People have to let him if they so want to. My God has mercy on whom He will's to have mercy on, and has compassion on whom He wants to have compassion on. Your god wants you to earn your way into heaven doing works of the law. My God saves individuals by Grace through faith. He is Ruling from the Throne, your god rules only those who let him. You do have a different god.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/12


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MarkV: My God wrote the LAW with His own finger in stone. Your god wrote "Do as thou wilt - that is the whole of the law" (from the Satanic Bible). Yours is a defeated god.


---jerry6593 on 12/28/12


Jerry, you are right, you do not know my God. Your god is under the law, my God is the Law. Your god is subject to you, my God is subject to no one. Your god wants you to rest on Saturday only because you said he is creator of Satuday, my God is our Sabbath rest each and everyday. So you are right, my God is not your god.
---Mark_V. on 12/27/12


I don't know your god. My God is the Creator of heaven and the earth. He left us with a seven-day week to memorialize His six-day creation and His Sabbath of rest. Those who don't thus honor the Creator God must settle for something less.


---jerry6593 on 12/27/12


I never said my God was bigger than your god. My God is the Way the Truth and the Life. He is the Great Creator, and the Ancient of Days. He is the author and finisher of my faith and my redeemer. He is the Alpha and the Omega. He is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. He is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. He is the resurrection. He is the Bridgroom, the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords, the Good Shepherd, and the Light of the World. He is the Lion of the tribe of Judah, and the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world. He is the Prince of Peace, the Savior, our mediator, the Messiah, and a whole lot more.

If this is your God then they are the same. If not, then yes my God is bigger than your god!
---trey on 12/11/12


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there is only one true God. there are many false idols and its a shame everyone don't know the one and only God of heaven.
---shira4368 on 12/11/12


It has been declared in the Holy Bible explicitly that, "Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the Lord he is God, there is none else beside him." Deuteronomy 4:35, I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me" Isaiah 45:7

Outside of believing in the One and only God, which has been revealed in His Son Jesus Christ, there's no salvation. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
---christan on 12/11/12


Hello,family Always stand up for our God & our saviour JESUS! Put it this way, my family who join the muslim cult. honest to tell you I have never talk to any muslim & hear them say " I got healed or somebody got

healed praying to their god"..
That my God.is greatest! Yes! Know some people their god is new age transendentalist ..they are thieves & liars just tell it like it is..they try to use even many verses twist it into a " waterly weakened' esimulated " jesus! " Our JESUS do not need No help He went to Calvary alone ..no new age Angel held him. He is "awesome" all by him self! Amen.
---ELENA on 12/11/12


Thomas, your question reminds me of one of the many imcomplete answers my kids try to give to me on their homework or test. I will say to you what I say to them- give me some details please. Who is your God?
Boy, I am in a teacher mood tonight. I don't know what has come over me.:) Maybe I need a break.
---MichelleS on 10/31/07


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My God you spell with a capital G. My God saves. My God died a most torturous death for me. And my God can raise a Savior. My God talks to me. My God hears me. My God blesses me. My God saved me from Hell. to name only a few things my God can do. He is strong and all powerful. What can your god do for you? Can He talk? Spank you, correct you. He can do much more if you will give my God a chance. Jesus Christ saves, talks. I have been through all of that. Good by.++
---catherine on 10/31/07


Tom ... if your god is God, He is my God also, the same God and his greatness is constant.
---alan8869_of_UK on 10/31/07


Thomas, we don't have to know who your God is because we know who OUR GOD is and He's the GREATEST GOD who ever existed! Jehovah God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is greater than any other god because He's the ONLY ONE who sent His only begotten Son to be crucified on a cross at Golgatha, shed his blood for my sins and die and be resurrected from the dead so that death now has no power over Him and Christians. Did your god die dor your sins? Does your god forgive sins?
---Donna9759 on 6/12/06


Because I serve the one and only God...God Almighty. And there is only one true God. So if you don't have the same God as I do, then yes I have a greater God.
---Rebecca_D on 6/8/06


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Who is your god?
---Kathy on 6/8/06


Thomas ... tell us a little about your god. Then we can say why we think he is different from our God.
---alan8869_of_UK on 6/8/06


Who's your God?
---Pharisee on 6/7/06


I'd have to know just 'who' or 'what' is your god?
My God created the universe and all the inhabitants. HE sent His Son to die for me so that I may be saved and spend eternity with Him. Can your God (god) do that?
---NVBarbara on 6/7/06


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Friend don,t know you or your beliefs. I believe in the one true God of abraham,Issac, AND jACOB.the creator of heaven and earth. The alpha and omega.the one who died and on the third day rose from the dead.every religion in the world except christianity has only the bones of the men who started them.my God was once dead but is alive forevermore.now thats a pretty big God, and by the way the only one.
---tom2 on 6/7/06


my God is an awesome God he reigns from heaven above with wisdom power and love my God is an awesome God.and by the way the only one.
---tom2 on 6/7/06


Because mine eats Kenn-l-Ration!
---Jack on 6/7/06


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