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Mormons Fastest Growing Group

Mormon are one of the fastest growing religions in the world, yet others whom call themselves Christians are not growing in numbers. Doesn't this within itself show Mormons are Christians.

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dottie - the question says ONE of the fastest growing religions (and it is). As to the fact that we don't take members off of our roles until we are asked - so what? I'm personally thankful for that because I was non practicing for 25 years and have found my way back. Maybe Andrea believes that other religions write their members off if they stop contributing to the collection plate every Sunday??
---Tammy on 4/2/08


The difference between Joseph Smith and the likes of David Koresh, Jim Jones, etc. is that little verse in the bible "by their fruits ye shall know them." The LDS church does many good things - for members and non members. Members are encouraged to ask questions, to study on our own and most importantly to pray for our own answers. We DO NOT worship Joseph Smith (as some would have you believe) or any other President of the church. We worship Jesus Christ, for whom our church is named.
---Tammy on 4/2/08


Joseph Smith was arrested numerous times for various charges...NEVER convicted of any crime. He was hated by many for his claims and for his beliefs. I'm not at all impressed by those who disparage his character in order to make their point. There have been great men throughout history (Jesus included) that have been charged with crimes they did not commit simply because they were feared or hated. Again, you can't pick and choose the standards by which you claim truth.
---Tammy on 4/2/08


"One of the leading or fundamental truths of Mormon philosophy is that the living may hear from the dead."
---momof2 on 4/1/08
The LDS believe in continuing revelation, we believe in the angelic visitations which have occurred throughout history. We don't have weekly seances which is what you seem to imply -maybe I'm wrong. This is the perfect example of how statements can be twisted to perpetuate a misconception!
---Tammy on 4/2/08


To the original question: Where did you get that idea? The fastest growing religion, "if you care to check your facts" is unfortunately Muslim. It was just announced by the Vatican not long ago that it has just passed them. As they were up till now, the largest faith in the world.
---pgfdottie on 4/2/08




Joe Smith was a classic example of a cult leader. Charismatic, deceptive, claiming things he could not prove, and then shaming others in not having blind faith. He was a very sick man, right up there with Jim Jones, David Keresh and many others. These were men who needed their ego fed, by having foolish people worship them. Sad how very intelligent people can be deceived. I know a very intelligent man who went to the Mormon Church, because they treated him better. What does that say for us?
---pgfdottie on 4/2/08


1.Jew D - I assure you that I have studied and asked questions. I have read the Book of Mormon and I know that it is exactly what it says it is - another witness to Jesus Christ. There have been grammatical changes made but these changes haven't covered up "contradictions" - even the Tanners have admitted that. I appreciate that you don't believe that "things line up" I disagree, I think that what I've read in the Bible, BOM, Pearl of Great Price and D & C completely line up.
---Tammy on 4/2/08


The truth is that the Tanners are the leading authorities for anti-mormons. If one were to research their claims one would find that they pick and choose out of context statements or make necessary twists to get the result they want. FAIR research is required to get a true result. The account of the First Vision they "say" they have - isn't really different as they would have you believe.
---Tammy on 4/2/08


It's ridiculous that a 15 year old boy had a vision of God and Jesus Christ? As a Christian I'm sure you believe that Moses parted the Red Sea, Noah saved mankind by building a giant boat, Mary was a virgin when she conceived Jesus, Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead, Jesus fed the masses with two loaves and two fish - but a 15 year old boy having a vision during a prayer is ridiculous??? All things are possible through God. Think about it.
---Tammy on 4/2/08


Joe Smith's parents were involved in occult practices. He was arrested in 1826 for fortune telling in Bainbridge, NY. Duet.18:10-12 says, "Let no one be found among you...who practices divination or sorcery...engages in witchcraft or casts spells, who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead." Mormon's claim to follow the Bible BUT Mormon Elder Parley Pratt in 1853 says "One of the leading or fundamental truths of Mormon philosophy is that the living may hear from the dead."
---momof2 on 4/1/08




If you study Joseph Smith's claims about how he basically founded the church they seem so ridiculous! He claims he had his first vision when he was a 15 year old boy! He drastically changed his story about the events of the vision several times. Jerald and Sandra Tanner (leading authorities on mormonism) say they have 3 different hand written manuscripts of the first vision. They were all written by Joe Smith, but are all different accounts of what happened.
---momof2 on 4/1/08


I could never believe a religion where the founder was involved in occult practices, and who obviously lied about his accounts. Also parts of the Book of Mormon have been changed through out the years to cover up contradictions. (1830 edition of Mosiah 21:28
Mosiah 6:3-7, 7:1 1 Nephi 11:18)
---momof2 on 4/1/08


Andrea-The book of Jude in the Bible says "saving some with fear and others with compassion.." Lashing out against someone that has a tender heart will only drive them away from the truth. Be mericful! Don't condemn bcuz that is what we all deserve, reach out to someone with respect,truth & love in your hand & heart.
---Jew-D on 4/1/08


**That's a really big "if". I would suggest you read it. -Tammy**

I wanted to know what my friends believed and why, that is why i read the BOM and the D & C, PGP, many of the Discourses. As I found things that didn't line up or make sense, I re-read and asked a ton of questions of LDS members and missionaries, they couldnt answer the questions. So please read what I wrote, ask questions, ask why, and expect valid answers. you may be surprised with what you discover.
---Jew-D on 4/1/08


Tammy- Truth is everything. Many people, both LDSs & "Christians" think they have the truth-but read Matt7. Ask yourself who are the people who, on judgement day. say "lord,lord, didn't I do.." It isn't a religious group of people, because G-d is not partial to one religion over another-He is only partial to a rigtheous heart. Ask yourself why will so many people say "lord, lord..." Read and re-read and dig deep,the answer is there. Much respect and many blessings to you.
---Jew-D on 4/1/08


If the BOM contradicts the Bible - it is false and your following a false prophet.
---Andrea on 4/1/08

That's a really big "if". I would suggest you read it. There is no doubt- NO DOUBT in my mind that the only thing you've read is anti-LDS rhetoric about it. Now that the spirit of contention is back (AKA Andrea) I think I'll take another break. Jew D - thank you for your comments and the spirit they are written.
---Tammy on 4/1/08


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Mormons are not the fastest growing cult - they do not subtract the people who leave the church unless they write and ask to be taken from the roles.
---Andrea on 4/1/08


An angel sent from God visited Jos Smith on more than one occasion and eventually revealed the location of the plates which was translated into the Book of Mormon. There are accounts of angelic visits and instruction to the living throughout the Bible.
---Tammy on 3/22/08
this is the same claim that Mohammed makes - I have to believe they were telling the truth.... Satan comes as an angel of light to decieve many. If the BOM contradicts the Bible - it is false and your following a false prophet.
---Andrea on 4/1/08


Tammy-not to turn this into a sabbath debate,as written in Acts, "the 1st day of the week ancient days began saturday eve at sunset. The jews were gathered for the havdallah service which ended the sabbath. G-d gave us a specific day,the 7th, to keep holy. G-d doesn't change & neither does his word. Christians began worshipping on sunday to avoid persecution towards sabbath keepers. Constantine wanted the christian faith to fit pagan customs.read ancient history.
---Jew-D on 3/31/08


Jew D - I read an article once that said that early Christians celebrated their Sabbath on Sunday to differentiate themselves from the Jews. They celebrate their Sabbath on Sunday because that is the day that Jesus was resurrected. There was more to it, including scriptural references in Acts, but that is the main idea. We are to obey the Sabbath, a day of rest, worshipping God, studying scriptures, etc. It happens that most Christians celebrate the Sabbath on Sunday. Same activities, different day.
---Tammy on 3/30/08


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Question: LDSs believe that Moroni is angel described in Rev 14:6. How can this be if the events preceeding Rev 14 have not occured yet? This portion of Rev is in chronological order.
---Jew-D on 3/30/08


Another Question: J Smith had, on more than 1 ocassion, said the Nephi was the angel that gave him the plates. This claim is supported by others including Smith's mother, Mary Whitmer, & the 1stEd of Pearl of Great Price. However, Smith also said that Moroni was the angel that gave him the plates, this view being the one that is maintained by LDS. How do you explain this obvious discrepancy by the faith's founder?
---Jew-D on 3/30/08


contradiction#3:

The BOM teaches that salvation is by grace and works (2 Nephi 25:23) However the Bible states that salvation is by grace alone (EPh 2:8-9). The works that we do are the evidence of our salvation, not the basis of salvation.

#4- BOM says the Jesus was born in Jerusalem (Alma 7:10), the Bible clearly states that Jesus was born in Bethlehem. (Mt 2:1)
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


contradiction#5:

The BOM teaches that the preisthood did not need to be Levitical. (2 Nephi 5:26-Lehi was of the tribe of Joseph). Yet Number 3:9-10 states that the priesthood could only be through Aaron a Levite.

#6-Alma 16:13 says that the command was given to build the temples in america. But 1 kings 8:44-48 shows the Jerusalem was explicity chosen by G-d as the site for the temple.
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


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contradiction#7:

3 days or 3 hours- there's a big differnce. The BOM says that at Christ's crucifixion there was 3 days of darkness (Helaman 14:27), but Luke 23:44 says there was only 3 hours.
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


Written by men of the LDS faith, the Doctrines & Convenants is second most read after the BOM. Yet in Matt 15:9, Jesus said that they worship G-d in vain because the follow the doctrines of men and not of G-d.

There's more, but if the Bible (OT & NT) has survived millenias and the BOM has only been a around for a couple hundred years, which one would you trust to be true.
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


Here are only a few of the ways the Mormonism contradicts itself.

One God-Alma 11:27-39, 44, 2 Nephi 31:21, Mormon 7:7, 3 Nephi 11:27
Plural Gods-D & C Section 121:32, 132:18-20, 37

God dwells in the heart-Alma 34:36
God doesn't dwell in the heart-D & C Section 130:3

Gods word is unchangeable-Alma 41:8
Gods word can change-D & C Section 56:4-5

Death seals man fate-Mosiah 2:36-39, Alma 34:32-35
Chance after death-D & C Section 76:106-112, 88:99
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


Two of my good friends, whom I greatly respect, are members of the LDS church and I have asked them this question but have never recieved a valid reply: If the Mormon faith contradicts itself & the Bible, then where is one's confidence that Mormonism is the one true religion?
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


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there are contradictions between Mormonism & theBible. please read with an open mind because they are given to you with respect.

#1-The Book of Mormon teaches that little children are not capable of sin because they do not have a sinful nature (Moroni 8:8). However the Bible clearly shows that we have sinful nature from birth: "Look, I was guilty of sin from birth,a sinner the moment my mother conceived me." Ps 51:5(NET).
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


contradiction#2:

The BOM teaches that dark/black people are a sign of G-d's curse and that white people are superior to them. (2 Nephi 5:21) But the Bible reveals that we are all created in His image (Gen 1:26), that we are from one blood (Acts 17:26), there are no distinctions & partiality in Christ (Gal 3:28,James 2:1).
---Jew-D on 3/29/08


**The church follows the ten commandments and all commandments Jesus gave us** Ashley

As with most Christian churches, LDSs only follow 9 commandments. The sabbath is saturday as described in the Bible, not Sunday. It was never changed by G-d as some believe.
---Jew-D on 3/28/08


does the Bible say anything about communicating with the dead?
Yes it is a sin that carried a curse.
Did Joseph smith talk to the dead?
Yes the entire book of morman is written from it.
---william on 3/1/08
An angel sent from God visited Joseph Smith on more than one occasion and eventually revealed the location of the plates which was translated into the Book of Mormon. There are accounts of angelic visits and instruction to the living throughout the Bible.
---Tammy on 3/22/08


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cont.

My point is that you can't pick and choose by what standards you apply to whom. It either happens or it doesn't.
---Tammy on 3/22/08


What is the problem? Jesus taught us to live as an example of him, not through our mouths in hypocrisy, but by actually living as an example to everything Jesus taught. Not just the things we enjoy or find easy. why are the gold plates not here now. Only one third were translated. Two thirds are still sealed to come forth in God's time, not man's. If they were left on earth, biblical scholars would open the sealed portions to see what they contain.
---ashley on 3/21/08


It was said the church changes. That is ironic because I have been a member since 74. the only changes I have found were all worthy young men can now hold the priesthood and polygamy abolished in 1887. Please specify what changes you are talking about because I haven't seen them. The church follows the ten commandments and all commandments Jesus gave us. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the light. He is willing to forgive us, but we have to repent, no one else and that is stated in 963 verses.
---ashley on 3/21/08


We are commanded to repent and try our best to NEVER commit the same sin twice. It isn't easy, but it requires an effort on our part. I have watched christians in major churches. I couldn't tell if they were christians or heathens. They swore, drank to drunkeness, abused their wives and families, blasphemed Jesus Christ, lied, cheated, had affairs, did drugs, etc. Did Jesus not say let your light so shine that others may see your good works. NOT wickedness. When did Jesus teach wickedness is right?
---ashley on 3/21/08


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It's easy to say that we accept Jesus Christ as our Savior - having the FAITH to obey his commandments and to live our lives by his example is quite different. I believe that God knows each and every one of us. He gave us freedom to make our own choices and exhibiting faith is one of those choices that He rejoices in.
---Tammy on 3/21/08


Greg - I respectfully disagree. There are rituals and instructions (the commandments, baptism,etc) given to us in the Bible through the prophets. I believe that God knows each and every one, that our earthly existence is a probationary one. God sent Jesus Christ to provide an example to us and knowing that we would fall short, offer an atonement for our sins. True acceptance of Jesus Christ is to live as he did and by proving our faith in him by performing those things required of us.
---Tammy on 3/21/08


God is the creator. There is no reason for a lengthy list of instructions (instruction booklet) and protocols in order to know Him properly. The bible is a way to know more about Him, but "religions" teach rituals/gestures and many things that are not required for a personal relationship with Him (they are MAN'S laws/will, not GOD'S).

Choose today whom you shall serve.
---greg on 3/20/08


"works" are used very often to show love to the 'brethren in Christ' (they do/add nothing to God, He is not needy). The Lord much rather have an intimate and very PERSONal relationship with the REAL 'you', not someone that other people suggested you be like or what you THINK a book 'SAID' you should be like ("in my inmost SELF", Romans 7:22. Hebrews 6:10).
---greg on 3/20/08


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Smith taught a salvation by works that does not obey the Ten Commandments for he has millions of gods. So It fails to follow either the Old or New Testament.
---Samuel on 3/7/08
This is a typical distortion of the truth! Yes, the LDS acknowledge the existence of many Gods(the Bible does too!)but to us there is ONE God, the same God worshipped by Christians everywhere.
---Tammy on 3/20/08


4. As for my questions regarding the authority by which the books in the Bible were decided upon - the question still stands. There were many manuscripts that existed along with those that were "acceptable" - and they still exist today. Yes, I agree that God will be certain that His words are heard - it may or may not be in context of the Bible. I believe that the Book of Mormon is good example of that. Yes, I have read it.
---Tammy on 3/20/08


5. I believe that we are in need of prophets today every bit as much as the people of biblical times! I believe that there can only be one doctrine of Jesus Christ and that doctrine isn't spread out amongst many churches which teach varied portions of it - I believe there can only be one church of Jesus Christ. I believed that before I became a LDS and I continue to believe it now. As for what the LDS core concepts you say contradict the Bible - I am at a loss at what those could be.
---Tammy on 3/20/08


1. JewD - I appreciate your attempts to answer my questions in a non aggressive manner. I believe that the doctrine of Jesus Christ is much more plain and simple than what your answers offered. As for your reference in regard to Joseph Smith - he received his first vision at the age of 15, I don't think there were any questions of character prior to that time. I know that he faced many accusations by people who sought to disparage him and I also know that he wasn't perfect, as no man is.
---Tammy on 3/20/08


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2. In regard to my question on baptism - the Bible clearly states that one MUST be baptized to enter the kingdom of God. Yes, we are baptized as a result of our faith. The Bible tells us that the thief would be with Jesus in paradise NOT the kingdom of God. I believe this wording is significant and that there is a difference in the two - much too long to explain in 85 words. I believe that the ordinance of baptism is indeed as essential as told to us in the Bible.
---Tammy on 3/20/08


3. There have been two doctrinal changes that I can come up with - plural marriage which was stopped when Utah became a state...Mormons believe in obeying the law of the land. The second is allowing blacks to hold the priesthood which was in 1978 and a result of the struggle that the current president of our church was having between teaching and baptizing blacks into the church but not allowing them the blessings of the priesthood. The civil rights movement took place in the 60's.
---Tammy on 3/20/08


**7. What is the purpose of life? Is there some sort of plan?**

The purpose of life is to love G-d with all your heart, soul, mind. If you follow a false picture of G-d you are still missing the boat. Yes, there has always been a plan. G-d wants man to be united with Him. Man's sin got in the way-now we have a choice-do we accept Jesus as the only atonement for sin or do we say that our own works will save us?
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


Tammy- I learned something early on in my life that it is easy to believe a falsehood if it is mixed with a little truth. Study closely the doctrine you beliveve. You will find that some of it's core concepts completely contradict the Bible-OT and NT.
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


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**1. Why wouldn't God continue to speak through prophets just as He did in biblical times?**

G-d used the prophets to tell of the need of and the coming of the Savior, Jesus. Jesus said that he fulfilled the law and the PROPHETS. Therefore, prophets of old are not needed today. Everything we need to know is already expressed in the scriptures inspired by G-d..it's just some people don't understand what G-d's wisdom.
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


**2. By what authority did the Nicean Council decided what books should become scripture?**

The old testament is called the hebrew scriptures and was compiled long before the N.council. The NT books that were chosen were one that agreed with the OT scriptures. Don't foret that G-d is not outside of everything-he can use any means to put his Word together.
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


**3. Why are there so many "Christian" religions teaching different doctrines - shouldn't there be one doctrine of Jesus Christ which doesn't waiver?**

Religion is man's way of expressing faith. G-d is not a respector of religion, but is looking for those who accept Jesus as Messiah and follow his commandments. Remember to also judge your faith by the same standards...research how many time LDS changed its doctrine to support a current view or contradicts itself.
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


**4. I asked myself why Joseph Smith would bother making up a book simply to form his own religion?**

Research the true character of Joseph Smith. There are actual court documents that reveals JSMith as a character who would tell people falsehoods to gain money and attention. These documents are dated before the "revelations" of JSmith.
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


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**5. There are many interpretations of different verses in the Bible - which one is right?**

I personally use the KJV or a hebrew version. If you want an accurate understanding of scripture study from the writer's point of view and culture. Many new translations are developed from a Western culture thus leaving out the important anthroplogy of scripture.
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


**6. If Baptism is essential to entering the kingdom of God - what happens to people who were never given the opportunity? Isn't God a just God?**

G-d is a just G-d. And baptism is an action of FAITH. The theif on the cross was not baptized, yet he entered into paradise because of his FAITH in the Messiah. If you have an opportunity to be baptized, but don't do it or believe it, then FAITH is not truly believing in G-d's word but is in your own ability to know what is just before G-d.
---Jew-D on 3/7/08


Mima - the scripture you cite pertains to the BOOK of Revelation...the placement of Revelation in the Bible was by men not by God. As for my belief regarding the plates that contain the BOM - yes, I do. I also believe the testimony of the men who witnessed them (some left the church but NEVER recanted their testimonies). As for why the plates haven't been found - think about it - as greedy and evil as many in the world are, would they be safe? I think not.
---Tammy on 3/7/08


Samuel - many books that were left out of the Bible have been found so I have no idea what you are trying to say? God doesn't control everything men do, you have to know that. I also don't understand your question as to why the LDS don't follow the Old Testament because I believe we do moreso than any other church. Can you specify what you're talking about with your final statement because both the Old and New Testament support Joseph Smith! Feel free to answer the questions I posed in my earlier posts.
---Tammy on 3/7/08


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I have read and studied on why things were placed in the Bible. I also Know that GOD is in charge of all things. So He works his will in spite of the evil men wish to do.

Smith taught a salvation by works that does not obey the Ten Commandments for he has millions of gods. So It fails to follow either the Old or New Testament.
---Samuel on 3/7/08


i was raised as a teen in a fundamentalist (born again) environment. Questioning, debating (in oher words thinking) were not tolerated, it was like not being able to breath. Now, 20 years later in Gospel Doctrine(LDS study) I freely ask questions and debate without fear, in fact it is encouraged. I now take big breath's. One of the tests of a religion is if it can take being examined, questioned, if not, its finished.
---MikeM on 3/7/08


The verse from Revelations about adding/taking away refers only to that book. The Bible quotes over a dozen other books no longer in the bible. It was Roman politics that led to what books were left in, taken away, basic history 101. LDS do believe in the OT, to say otherwise is ignorance.
---MikeM on 3/7/08


mima, Revelation is a book placed into the New Testament. The warning in it ONLY pertains to Revelation and ONLY for those living in the last generation. Why? Use your mind--Plagues can only affect living people!

Your type of understanding is what causes many to assume things that are not truth. You need to study how and why writtings were placed in the NT--It did not have anything to do with God.
---Dr._Rich on 3/7/08


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To Tammy Did you ask yourself why the LDS teach GOD could not protect the Bible from having parts left out? Which is what they teach. Have you found the parts that were left out that agree with Smith? How come the LDS do not agree with the Old Testament either?
---Samuel on 3/7/08


To Tammy, since the Mormons believe that the book of Mormon is equal to the Bible. What do you say about this scripture found in Revelation 22:18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, IF ANY MAN SHALL ADD UNTO THESE THINGS, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" do you agree that the book of Mormon is adding to the word of God? Do you actually believe the story about the plates in the ground?
---Mima on 3/7/08


William - here are the questions I asked myself prior to my becoming a Latter Day Saint:
1. Why wouldn't God continue to speak through prophets just as He did in biblical times? I imagine it was difficult for neighbors and friends of Moses, Noah, etc. that they were given direction by God.
2. By what authority did the Nicean Council decided what books should become scripture? There were many books that they felt didn't support what they felt Christianity should be. This is a fact.
---Tammy on 3/6/08


3. Why are there so many "Christian" religions teaching different doctrines - shouldn't there be one doctrine of Jesus Christ which doesn't waiver? For example, some churches don't believe baptism is necessary, or that immersion is necessary - yet the Bible tells us that both are.
4. I asked myself why Joseph Smith would bother making up a book simply to form his own religion? It seems that was an awful lot of unnecessary work. I actually READ the Book of Mormon. It teaches of Jesus Christ.
---Tammy on 3/6/08


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5. There are many interpretations of different verses in the Bible - which one is right?
6. If Baptism is essential to entering the kingdom of God - what happens to people who were never given the opportunity? Isn't God a just God?
7. What is the purpose of life? Is there some sort of plan?
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints answered those questions and I did pray for answers myself...the lightbulb did indeed go off in my head!
---Tammy on 3/6/08


Wow it is a little hard to believe that people can be so deceived.
Ask yourself these questions and the lght bulb mite just turn on.
Which was written first the bible or the book of morman?
The bible
does the Bible say anything about communicating with the dead?
Yes it is a sin that carried a curse.
Did Joseph smith talk to the dead?
Yes the entire book of morman is written from it.
---william on 3/1/08


Mormonism IS Christian, but growing fast is not a proof of it. Believing in Jesus is.

Other religions are growing fast, and many of them are not Christian. (Islam, for one)

Growth of a religion is not dependent upon its being Christian.
---Nancy on 11/15/07


If everyone went and jumped in a lake, would you do it too?
---dan on 11/14/07


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I stand by my belief that Jesus was present with God. It makes absolutely no sense that Jesus and God are the same person - NONE. Why would God send Himself, talk to Himself, pray to Himself or even plead with Himself. As far as I'm concerned that is just plain illogical.

Make of that what you will but I believe there is an actual plan in place and that Jesus offered himself as an example and as a sacrifice so that we would live as he did and that we would be forgiven our sins if we repent of them.
---Tammy on 11/13/07


Tammy, God said 'Let us make Man in Our image' using the plural because the Hebrew for God, Adonai, IS PLURAL.

Make of that what you will. *smiles*
---Nancy on 11/12/07


Tammy I'm sorry the blog got lost. If you want me to get in detail with you my penpal is Andre 5846 - I promise to be very respectful and answer your questions honestly
God is one God but He exists in three persons (not three gods)He is one essence but it is important to understand that God has no clock He is alpha and omega
I need more then 85 words to explain
---Andrea on 11/12/07


Andrea - How about answering my question? You ask no questions, I would gladly answer a serious question (one you haven't already answered with your cut and paste tactics). I have asked you several questions in the last couple of months and have NEVER received an answer! How about it? Who is God talking to? What do you suppose God's image is...the one we have been made by? Which spirits existed before? Where did we come from. Stick to biblical references and stop the cut and paste tactic.
---Tammy on 10/29/07


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Pt 1
The LDS church now also teaches that there are millions upon millions of these gods, each of whom earned godhood and shaped matter into earths over which they rule. Faithful Mormon males expect to become gods themselves and fashion and populate worlds of their own, with the cooperation of their wives.

Joseph Smith, who originally dictated the words of the Book of Mormon, later rejected its teaching that God is "unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity" (Moroni 8:18).
---Andrea on 10/26/07


2)Toward the close of his life, as recorded in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, he announced, "We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea . . . he was once a man like us" (p. 345). The present Mormon gods, therefore, are plural, not spirit, and not unchangeable as the Book of Mormon teaches.

even Smith didn't believe the BOM
---Andrea on 10/26/07


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Gen 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness....

Why is God speaking in plural? If we are made in the likeness of God and we have bodies of flesh and bones - why wouldn't He?
Biblically speaking - isn't it fair to say that at least some existed prior to earth? God told Jeremiah that he had been preordained a prophet before his earthly existence. (Jer 1:5) What about Michael and the angels that fought against the dragon and his angels?
---Tammy on 10/25/07


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