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Should Christians Help The Poor

What is your feelings about the welfare state? Do you believe Christians should be helping the poor? Who should actually be in charge of helping the poor? Should I turn the money over to someone else to help the poor or what?

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I worked in one of the soup kitchens a few years back and found that most receipents were poor because of various medical or social problems.

When asked how many of the people that ate there would work if offered a suitable job, the director replied that only about 10 percent would accept a job offer.

Many, I talked to were former mental patients, alcoholics, or drug addicts.

We are not really addressing or solving any problem simply by feeding and clothing these people.
---leej on 11/15/10


Have you opened your home? Have you gone under the bridges or overpasses giving out blankets?
---Mark_V. on 11/15/10
YES I HAVE! and I do help run a program to feed and clothes those in need. and I would never asscoiate with any group who refuse to lend help to others, those who would oppose
food stamps, medicaid, medicare, goverment run low income housing, WIC, social security, federal unemployment insurance, grants for college, and many other services which give direct aide to the poor. Any christian should be offended by that party, because they stand contrary to christian prinicples!!
---francis on 11/15/10


Francis, if you a democrate believe in the goverment giving everyone everything, it is because you and others who are liberals won't sacrifice of yourselves to help those people who need help. If you, as a Christian, believe that the poor need all those things you mention, you should, out of your own will, because you care so much, start programs where all you democrates can gather food, clothes, blankets, and other things just like Linda, opening her house for those who do not have a place to live. Have you opened your home? Have you gone under the bridges or overpasses giving out blankets? You want others to pay for what you refuse to do yourself.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/10


"Contrary to what republicans believe," as an offense to me.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/10

Yes, and you should be offended. I am offended also that an organization who seeks the help of christians to gain political power would be fundermentally against direct help to the poor( a fundermental christian vertue).

This ia a party that has opposed food stamps, medicaid, medicare, goverment run low income housing, WIC, federal unemployment insurance, and many other services which give direct aide to the poor.
Any christian should be offended by that party.

Job 5:16 So the poor hath hope, and iniquity stoppeth her mouth.
---francis on 11/15/10


Lets remember, that there are no poor "true Christians"...Our God owns everything, and we are His inheritors. This makes us too, own everything in this world, and in heaven. Yes. and Amen.
---catherine on 11/14/10




Francis, I take what you said about,
"Contrary to what republicans believe," as an offense to me.
I am a republican and I do believe in helping the poor. So do all the people that are at my church. We collect food, blankets and clothes for the poor. In fact all the churches of Christ, where you find most of the republicans, give and collect food to give to the poor. Most fake chirstians who are against the Bible teachings of moral issues are democrates, or what is called liberals. The passages you quoted are all for the genuine believer. We are to sacrifice ourselves for others the way Linda and her husband have done. Maybe not in the same way but going all out to help others.
---Mark_V. on 11/15/10


It's pointless to argue with someone who thinks they know what I believe better than I do!
---Donna66 on 11/9/10

Interesting comment Donna.. and so very true.
---NurseRobert on 11/12/10


Taking care of the poor or needed is not only a Christian responsibility, but a Godly mandate upon all man kind. Those who have not shown love to their neighbor have broken the law and hence sinned. The Disciples reminded Paul to remember the poor. Jesus said we would have the poor with us always.
The issue is they should not remain poor. Along with helping them financially, we should find a way to get them out of the poverty. i.e. Feeding them a fish versus teaching them how to fish. Those who are not willing to help themselves should not continue to receive support. Those who will not work, will not eat. We must help others to help themselves.
---Bill on 11/12/10


I believe that we are responsible for them because they are also are brothers and we should show kindness to them. One is, we are not doing this for as to please people but we are doing this for the Glory of GOD.
---Israel_Gil on 11/13/10


I believe that as far as the poor are concerned, we can see that it may be our own lot someday soon.

I read this morning that pension funds are way out of control with thousands of people drawing well over $100k per year and most are state employees.

As such some state pension funds will be totally depleted in a very few years, they must look either to bankruptcy or federal government bailouts once their own general funds are run out.

This country is heading for some real bad financial troubles which may result in a totally new government which will have far more controls over everyone and everything.
---billyj on 11/12/10




I can see that as people become more and more dependent upon government that eventually there will not be enough resources to provide for them. At present our medical costs have no boundaries, nor does it seem the same for our educational system - more money and less results with unions yielding no ground but demanding more and more benefits. Eventually the system will collapse with a new type of government being formed that will give us far less freedom than we have not.
---billyj on 11/11/10


billyj-- Amen! The help that government gives should not merely make people more dependent on government. It should provide incentives, for as many as possible, to become self-supporting...maximizing their abilities, building self-respect.
---Donna66 on 11/10/10


The poor are often like the bears, once you start feeding them they will cease to strive for their own food.

the best thing to do with a poor person is to find him a job so he can support himself. However, if he cannot work, then I can see helping him.
---billyj on 11/10/10


LET US REMEMBER... We gave nothing!
Since it was NOT our money to begin with. We were simply stewards of G-d, who tells us how and where to spend it.

If we truly obey him, he will bless us.

PS. OOOPS..Clarification for you Carnal Christians. I was not refering to "Financial Blessing" when I said G-d will bless you.

It's not a stock investment. Go to Goldman Sacks for that "blessing."
---John on 11/10/10


20/20 did some research a few yrs ago. (you can find it on the internet). one of the researchers concluded:

"when you look at the data, it turns out the conservatives give about 30 percent more." He adds, "And incidentally, conservative-headed families make slightly less money."

"the differences in giving goes beyond money, pointing out that conservatives are 18 percent more likely to donate blood. He says this difference is not about politics, but about the different way conservatives and liberals view government."

"You find that people who believe it's the government's job to make incomes more equal, are far less likely to give their money away,"
---Donna66 on 11/9/10


Francis-- I, too believe Good government can help poor people and I am a Republican, not a "republian". It's pointless to argue with someone who thinks they know what I believe better than I do!
---Donna66 on 11/9/10


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He who gives to the poor lends to the Lord, and the Lord will repay.
---Linda on 11/9/10


We should always be led by the spirit before parting with our money. Especially on the streets and to other organizations etc...Also in some of these churches these days. Everybody is looking for a buck. Times are tough and money is tight. I don't spend unless I have to. But I do believe christians should reach out and help others,if possible. If we don't have it. Then that's ok. The more we give, the more God gives back to us. The giving should be done with an open and pure heart. With no thoughts of getting it back.We should not let anyone force us to give,either. God will reward us for what we do.
---Robyn on 11/9/10


Keep your money. Do not turn it over to crooks, most are. Money too tempting for most, steal it....Christians are suppose to help other Christians. It is not just up to the Christians to help the poor. The government is suppose to take care of the poor. Protect them legally from greedy people. For example: Look at the home-for-closer. Many unscrupulous lenders has deliberately mislead people. God's judgment will come, upon this wicked nation....And here is a stern warning for men in power knocking on doors, just doing their Jobs, well, ha, ha, ha. I would quit my job. One day you find yourself on the streets, because someone had the power to put you on the streets. "God gives power for you to do good with, not to do evil with".
---catherine on 11/9/10


Republicans do NOT expect the government to help the poor. That is why only the richest people get tax cuts under all republican plans.

Anyways, republians get into this because while many christians want to serve God in the area of the stewardship of the earth, and helping the poor, it is their loyality as a group to the GOP which leads them away from Gods plans.

2 Chronicles 1:15 And the king made silver and gold at Jerusalem [as plenteous] as stones, and cedar trees made he as the sycomore trees that [are] in the vale for abundance.


Good government can help poor people
---francis on 11/9/10


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Linda-- Thanks, that answers my question. I'd forgotten about free computers at the library.

Francis-- Why the dig at Republicans?
(How did politics get into this anyway?)
Republicans expect that government, as well as churches and individuals take responsibility to help the poor.
---Donna66 on 11/9/10


I saw this, while standing in line at the Los Angeles airport. A homeless person was asking for help of those in line. A new arrival came to the line and saw this and he asked what is that man doing? Whereupon he was told he's asking for money as the homeless man walked away the last man in the line ran him down and gave him some money. I'd say that last man in line wanted to help somebody.
---mima on 11/9/10


Donna, most local libraries have computers and internet access for free. The presence of an internet blog is not necessarily indicative of ownership.
---Linda on 11/8/10


DITTOS JOSEPH!!!

I WENT THROUGH THE SAME THING! tons of Baptist/Evangelical Churches said no.

I was helped by the Greek Orthodox Church who never ask a single question, but fed me/my family.

No Evangelical Christian will help you AT ALL, since less than 1% them or pastors are Christians. Though they call themselves that, when they feast on the fatted Pig of Potluck.

They are the Goats of Matt 25 all fake "Phoney Holies".

I was also helped by an Athiest, a Jew and a Moslem!

My ex-Baptist Fundi church toss me out when I went broke and asked for food. I NO LONGER FIT THE (WE NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS) FUNDI-MENTAL IMAGINE!

I BLESS G-D FOR THIS AWAKENING!!!

LINDA YOU ARE A BLESSING!!!!
---John on 11/8/10


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Joseph --Just curious. Did another homeless person give you the means to access the internet and these blogs?
---Donna66 on 11/8/10


I don't understand this, Jesus. He says he is a homeless Christian..... I don't believe it!
---catherine on 11/8/10


Joseph, I see Jesus. My husband and I have a heart for homeless people. We have taken people in and kept them until they could get on their feet. We have a desire to own a home that is big enough for our family and extra rooms and buildings for people who are stuck in between. We know that when you are homeless, you have no address. No address, no job or help. It breaks my heart. It is the proverbial "stuck between a rock and a hard place". Where we live now, we rent and can only have someone here for two weeks...and they have to have a place to go at the end of the 2 weeks. We feel stuck too because we cannot do more than we do. What state are you in?
---Linda on 11/8/10


Being,a homeless christian I felt as if I needed to reply to this blog.I love you all in that I see in your spirit you mostly have a giving heart.I do however see in almost any community I've been in that the church is failing.It is easyer in most places to seek out a homeless man under a bridge for food or shelter or any need he is more apt to help than most churches.you say not my church ask yourselves could this brother have allready called on us for help.and after crying out to yes hundreds of churches I still sleep outside in 20degree weather.dont drink or do drugs what do you see when you see me?
---JOSEPH on 11/8/10


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There is no question that Jesus instructed us to care for the poor. But he never indicated that we should pay the government to do it for us. Paying taxes doesn't make you "compassionate", just law abiding.
And it certainly doesn't absolve any Christian of their personal responsibility to give to the needy.

Nor does government assistance absolve people of the responsibility to work if they are able. Wherever most people believe the government "is there to take care of me", that government will end in financial ruin.

Jesus' emphasis on personal responsibility is as prominent as His teaching to give to the poor, it just doesn't feel as good.
---Donna66 on 11/7/10


As there are usually not enough people willing to help the poor, some level of welfare may be necessary.

But - to assume the state will help you as 'your right' as has been felt sometimes, is both dangerous and not Christian
---Jacob on 11/8/10


Contrary to what republicans believe, all believers have a responsibility to help the poor. It does not matter whether the help comes directly from an individau, a church, the taxes of the individual, or all three at the same time.

Matthew 25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

Matthew 25:36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Matthew 25:40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me.
---francis on 11/8/10


People are unlikely to hear the gospel if their stomachs are growling.
This is a no brainer.

We have this light that we must pour into others and that includes the whole man (mind, spirit and body).

Charity opens the door for your witness.
You are never more like God than when you are giving.
---larry on 11/7/10


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We are supposed to be constantly trying to be more like Christ. In everything. I firmly believe that every bit of what we do should be looked at as what would He expect of us - what would He do? All Christians should be helping the needy - all the time. The choice whether it is through the church benevolent fund, direct giving to the poor, donating to certain ministries, etc. is up to each person. No Christian should ever be rich - the Lord strongly admonishes the rich. Those who are blessed with much are to be DONATING the abundance to continue God's work, not buying BMW's, mansions and lavish toys. Christ-like behavior is to emulate Him - He was the ultimate giver - so should we be.
---Erica on 11/7/10


The best would be that we, the believing, would help the poor, then the welfare 'state' would not be needed. But as most are not believers, someone else may be needed, as the needy are so many and we are relatively few.

The first, naturally, is for us to help each other (see James)
---peter on 8/24/10


The truth is suffering will remain. Dose that mean,lets not help people who are not christains?I think alot of christain claim to be christ like but really dont know the exact meaning. I believe christ would give to the needy, whether they are christains or muslims, etc.( he only had one loaf of bread and everyone in his presence that day was full.) Thats the obstacle with religion. every religon for its self some of these con artists are christains.. every watch some of these christains shows claiming to make people walk or heal them??lol, I learned my lesson. Im a believer in God and Christ. Love unconditionally all mankind because at the end of this man made reign, everyone will recognize the truth. WE all are children of one GOD.
---tiffany on 8/23/10


This is what the Lord says,

7 If there is among you a poor man of your brethren, within any of the gates in your land which the LORD your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart nor shut your hand from your poor brother, 8 but you shall open your hand wide to him and willingly lend him sufficient for his need, whatever he needs. 9 Beware lest there be a wicked thought in your heart, saying, The seventh year, the year of release, is at hand, and your eye be evil against your poor brother and you give him nothing, and he cry out to the LORD against you, and it become sin among you.

Deuteronomy 15:7-9
---Albany on 12/10/08


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This is what the Lord says (Continued),

10 You shall surely give to him, and your heart should not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the LORD your God will bless you in all your works and in all to which you put your hand. 11 For the poor will never cease from the land, therefore I command you, saying, You shall open your hand wide to your brother, to your poor and your needy, in your land.

Deuteronomy 15:10-11
---Albany on 12/10/08


Didn't Jesus say if someone asks for your coat to give your shirt too or something like that?
---John1944 on 10/23/07


This post is interesting, and I see that I wrote the original post so anyway. This very day. I have a request in front of me. And of course I'm going to give I always give(my wife doesn't like it but I give) I can not do less knowing what the Lord has given me. Eternal life and abundance of material wealth.
---Mima on 10/23/07


Christians should always help the poor and needy.We are to do the same works that Christ did. We can do something as simple as giving a sack lunch to a homeless person on the streets. Give to social service organizations. Give to the benevolent fund at our churches. This is what we are called into as Christians. The bible give us specific instruction on the works we need to concern ourselves with. Feeding the hungry,taking care of widows, orphans,visit those in jails,hospitals etc...
---Robyn on 10/23/07


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Yes, I believe Christians should help the poor only if the poor are trying to help themselves. I am a 42 year old female who is unable to work because of my back and I also have lupus and my husband who is working hurts every day because of Arthituis and we are trying real hard to make ends meet. So I really believe in helping one another. Like us, we could really use some assistance.
---Patricia_Flesher on 10/23/07


Jesus said, "unless you are born-again you cannot see the Kingdom of God." Good works is expected after you are saved. Serving God is everything you do in this life. Or at least it should be. God payed a great price for you and He wants some kind of payment. Not just for you to float up to heaven living a carefree, comfortable, selfish, life here. Some are called to preach And some for other things. While you are here, you might be able to do some good. That is scripture folks.
---catherine on 3/8/07


Jack - What you say is totally incorrect. You are saying that Christians have to work their way to heaven, which is not true. You have to be born-again or you will not even see the kingdom of heaven, let alone go in there. Feeding the poor etc. is for a reward for those who are born-again.
---Helen_5378 on 3/8/07


Have you ever read Matthew 25? Jesus says that your score at the Last Judgement depends on how you tried to feed the hungry, harbor the homeless, and so on. Note that He never asks if they were born again, or accepted Him as their personal savior, matters that concern modern pop-evangelicals.

It is an old custom for Christians to ask someone else as their almoner--to distribute their alms--so they would literally not know who received them: so the "left hand knew what the right hand did".
---Jack on 3/8/07


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53 now, worked most life, looked after 10 homeless, poor at time, little personal assets. no car flash stereo tv,furniture. very painfull divorce, suffer chronic migraine nearly every day "super christians" despise scowl gossip from milliondollar bank a/cts. flash cars empty souls! what goats do!!
Cannot work now, benefit.
you do math. world system beneficiary bashing for years. one reason Yahuweh going destroy it!!
---dave on 7/5/06


nearly 30 years ago in DC a homeless man asked me for money I gave him a 20, man you would have thought I gave him the bank of england.I agree he probably misused that 20 but that was his choice. I did what the spirit lead me to do.
---tom2 on 7/5/06


"Some have signs on side of street Work for Food", but refuse to when offered work. Easier to beg than work."

I agree for some this may be, and probably is true.

However the Holy Spirit is very discerning, Unless convicted by my giving I give, and leave all judgment to the Father. Every man will give account of the deeds done while experiencing this mortal existence.
---joseph on 7/5/06


I agree Sue. That would be a rotten job. I say If I give to a man who asked me (what ever his motive) I have simply done as I have been instructed. How he spends the money is of no consequence to me. Nor is his motive for asking. In my mind it takes a tremendous amount of humility or desperation to beg. And my heart goes out to anyone who finds themselves in that position. Have I ever been scammed? Probably and given the same situation and circumstances surrounding it, my response would be the same.
---joseph on 7/5/06


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Sue, in Texas there was a write up in paper about this area stating many of the beggers did that like people work a regular job. Reporters found they drove nice cars, lived in good houses. It was a scam, racket,call it what you will, but weren't poor or hungry just thieves and liars. The same thing hapened to many churches around here,people playing on sympathy to get help they didn't need. Some have signs on side of street Work for Food", but refuse to when offered work. Easier to beg than work.
---Darlene_1 on 7/5/06


yes we should, but even more the poor in spirit.
---tom2 on 7/5/06


I heard that the cases of the beggers who are really millionaires is nothing more than a myth.I think most of those people are really hard up. Why else would they stand in the freezing cold/rain all day or the hot sun? Seems a pretty rotten job to me.
luv,sue
---sue on 7/5/06


"For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in" this is from the same area in the Bible as the other verse, notice the word 'stranger'.
luv,sue
---sue on 7/5/06


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Sue,not to argue but consider this please;the brothers and sisters of Christ the King are Christians not strangers but part of the Family of God.
---Darlene_1 on 7/5/06


Matthew 25,40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.' I'm pretty sure this means that if you help a stranger, you are helping Jesus.
luv,sue
---sue on 7/5/06


From what I have seen in my home town in the UK, the vast majority are genuine. Jesus did say "Feed the hungry, clothe the naked" so it is best to do that rather than give money which is so easily misspent.
I prefer to give my "for the homeless" money to the night shelter, and not direct to the person.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/5/06


Sue,that poor soul may not be as poor as he looks,some running a scam have gotten in new SUVs and driven off after their day of begging is over. No where does the Bible say Jesus will beg on street corners. It does say we can entertain angels unaware. Nowdays one must be careful of strangers, because having contact with them could get you killed. Some are there because they had rather panhandle than work. The bible says if a man won't work he shouldn't eat.
---Darlene_1 on 7/5/06


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That poor soul standing on the street corner begging for a dollar may just be Jesus .
---sue on 7/4/06


In Texas it is taking a chance you are contributing to someone running a scam to give people money. I would never give money! Buy food maybe but only after checking backgrounds to see if the person makes their living begging. Even churches have started turning strangers who ask for help away, because so many are going from church to church working their scam. I say help the church members who are needy but not strangers. Many churches have trouble helping their own let alone outsiders.
---Darlene_1 on 7/4/06


Amen Jack, Cristy, and Donna. Bless you
---joseph on 6/15/06


Christy--Preach on, sister!

I've noticed that the loudest complainers about those lazy cheats on welfare are those who have never had to deal with the system, or been reduced by circumstances to turning to it.

The great defrauding of FEMA of hurricane relief funds says more about FEMA than I can get into here.

There's nothing that can't be cheated or gotten or stolen from if dishonest people are determined to cheat it, get around it, or steal from it.
---Jack on 6/14/06


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I recently heard a preacher say that the church has failed in helping the poor, thus the reason why the government had to step in. There are tons of social programs from the gov't. He said the church should be a hospital and should GIVE to the POOR, the NEEDY, to both Christians and those outside the church. I agree. I give gifts to unbelievers as well as believers.
---Donna9759 on 6/14/06


3)For some time there has been limitations on what one recieves if they have additional children. It is foolish to think that someone actually benifits financially by having additional children. I hated having to go on welfare, but did in order to save my family at a time when there were serious problems and there was no help elsewhere, including the church. I worked hard the whole time I was on welfare, regularly putting in 18-20 hour days.
---Christy on 6/13/06


2) This may be the case sometimes, may even seem to be the case in some situations, but things are not always what they appear. I have been on welfare, and have had people make assumptions such as this that are wrong. I had more babies while on welfare, NOT to get more money, but in obedience to God, not to abort when I got pregnant more then once WITH birth control. People who had a problem with my being on welfare said I should abort, their concern being the money.
---Christy on 6/13/06


1) Assumptions can be dangerous as well as hurtful to others. It is a form of judgement. Welfare definitely has its problems and there are many who take advantage of the system, but also many who are truly helped by it. Shira, you say "It was not intended for some to live off the system because they are too lazy to work. All they do is lie around and have sex and produce children so they can get more dollars. I am fed up and sick of it."
---Christy on 6/13/06


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Helen, have you ever noticed that those who preach the Prosperity Gospel and Seed Faith always teach that their wallets are the field you're supposed to sow your dollars into?

Matthew 8:20 and Luke 9:58 make it clear that closely following Jesus will NOT make you rich in this world's goods.
---Jack on 6/13/06


Whosoever refuses to hear or consider the cry of the poor, he also shall cry and not be heard. He that has given to the poor, his righteous act of kindness will always be remembered, if not by the person to which it was given, it will by the Father. We should always keep the poor in mind and help them all we can, considering that for by the grace of God we could be in that same state. He that has pity on the poor unites with the Father and that which he has given the Father will return.
---josef on 6/13/06


I would be more concerned about the poor in spirit.or lost.let your light shine into the world that men might see.jesus said the poor would always be with us.help who you can when you can where you can by what the holy spirit through the word leads you to do.
---tom2 on 6/13/06


yes. remember the parable of the rich man and lazarus?? you can be poor by the worlds eyes, but rich in spirit in the eyes of God.find favor with God and keep his commands and though you might not have a place to lay your head you will be rich one day.
---tom2 on 6/13/06


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There are all sorts of rumors and urban legends about people who are living luxuriously off welfare, and I don't doubt that there are some cheats (after all, there's no human system that can't be gotten around) but these are the EXCEPTIONS, not the rules.

One man I know is on a grand total of $600 a month disability and gets only $11 in food stamps. $380 of his income goes to rent--and he lives in subsidized housing.

Hardly luxurious.
---Jack on 6/12/06


It is not wrong at all for the government to help take care of the poor .. I believe they should. However for us as Christians we should be helping the poor. God has much to say in His word about the poor particularly in the Old Testament. God has a big heart for the poor and he cares about them very much and He wants us to help them. Funny thing is I have never heard a sermon on this -- that is undoubtedly due to the Prosperity Gospel which is a lie.
---Helen_5378 on 6/12/06


Many are out of work ,with children;electric bills and gas and transportation needs;no medicine for a sick baby; can't meet the child support,have terminal diseases ;disabilities;we can help them or not;Rich say no help; we used to do it with government help.If the welfare pays for aid to women with boyfriends and live ins.The hubby has to pay back the money to the state so he is doing that when a job comes along.Lulac 3895
---Lula on 6/12/06


I am concerned more than anything I know, about this today. Welfare State? Or Christian state of welfare. Or rich in charge of welfare? Welfare money should be a government indigent care aid to save real people from starving ,give dignity and Christian love to the needy. We always did have indigent care and it was not begrudged by even anyone who had jobs and growing families. We were proud to be able to help. It can't be ruled by the rich. lulac3895
---Lula on 6/12/06


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I am concerned more than anything I know, about this today.Welfare State? Or Christian state of welfare.Or rich in charge of welfare ?Welfare money should be a government indigent care aid to save real people from starving ,give dignity and Christian love to the needy.We always did have indigent care and it was not begrudged by even anyone who had jobs and growing families.We were proud to be able to help.It can't be ruled by the rich. lulac3895
---Lula on 6/12/06


I agree shira, but we are not to look at them as an enemy, but as a brother than needs to be corrected.

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
---tofurabby on 6/12/06


welfare was intended for those who really need help. It was not intended for some to live off the system because they are too lazy to work. All they do is lie around and have sex and produce children so they can get more dollars. I am fed up and sick of it.
---shira on 6/12/06


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