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Disagreement With Church Rules

To those of you who are official members of the church you attend - are you in total agreement with that church's statement of faith, or is there some 'little' thing over which you are compromising by being a member?

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I believe everyone on here shoud be attending church regularly before posting. Dear Brother did you take the "Leadership Quiz" first?
---John on 12/29/07

I attend a church where the statement of faith contains one thing with which I disagree. For that reason I have never actually become a member. My son has not become a member of his church either because of one part of the s.o.f. but it is a different one there. The title given to this question is slightly misleading because a statement of faith is not the same as church rules.
---RitaH on 11/24/07

Experience has shown that "little things" will grow bigger. I never saw a church that wasn't interested in discipline discipline, discipline, discipline (the word is mentioned four times to Scripture) but I've only found two churches that were interested in Soulwinning and dedicated to it.
---mima on 11/23/07

I agree with what my church teaches and all of the rules. I used to compromise a little, but that was before I became better versed in the scriptures. Now I understand and I no longer want to compromise, I submit fully and it has been a tremendous blessing.
---lorra8574 on 4/9/07

Eloy: You refuse to read the scriptures I gave you. If one doesn't feel any remorse for the sins they commited then they're not truely sorry and God can't take them serious. I can tell when the Holy Ghost is dealing with a person, because of how they act. I know what it is like when the Holy Ghost first dealt with my heart. He was tugging at my heart, knocking at my hearts door. Apparently your not save because you haven't felt this.
---Rebecca_D on 4/9/07

Eloy: The reason why you don't agree with others on the statement of faith because their right and you're wrong. And you get puffed up because they don't convert over to your beliefs. A person doesn't open up a church so they can preach their belief. They open a church because God called them to do so. This is why we have so many churches now. The Holy Ghost can't use you to win people over because you believe that God doesn't prick one's heart. And if God does you'll tell him, that isn't how I believe.
---Rebecca_D on 4/9/07

Eloy: "...where I can preach my belief." My belief, my belief, my belief. I wish I had a dime for every "my belief" I heard over the past fifty years. I would be as wealthy as King Solomon. This is the very reason why we have so many Christian denominations in the world - almost 32,000. What's wrong with simply preaching the gospel of the coming Kingdom of God, how to get there, and encourage people toward that end? You don't need a building for that.
---Steveng on 4/8/07

.rebecca, In my church, people will get saved because they come to the Savior, but in your church people will not get saved because they come to conviction instead of the Savior.
---Eloy on 4/7/07

Eloy: if you believe that God has called you to preach and to Pastor a church, then go for it. But if your not called by God to preach or to Pastor a church, I wouldn't open up at all. I couldn't be a member of your church Eloy, because you don't believe in conviction of sins. So you would just tell people repeat after me and you'll be saved. Not so.
---Rebecca_D on 4/7/07

Every true born-again Christian is an "official member" of the body of Christ, and should be highly respected as such. There are too many so-called leaders whom have not the Spirit of Christ, but are full of themselves and full of dead arrogant religion. They love the chief seats, and to be hailed in public as high and lofty, but they continually quench the Holy Spirit. Hebrews 13:2.
---Eloy on 4/6/07

I ask for a Statement of Faith when I am interested in a church. I have not found a one that I am completely in agreement with, which means that I should have my own church where I can preach my belief. And if I could have my own house that is exactly what I would do, turn it into a church. Now out of curiosity, how many of you would like to become a member of my church?
---Eloy on 4/6/07

So many churches that have been started by people not called into the ministry but disagreed with something taught somewhere so they started a church. I know that if i have a minister called of God he is going to sometimes step on toes at times. "Its tight but its right" pray, study your Bible and talk to the man of God preaching seperatly if you need to. - dont be a church hopper
---Miles_Iler on 4/7/07

Paul gave instruction to the churchs and all had faults. his letter to Corinth was santified yet he told them that they should be of one mind no divisions among them.a body of Christ will grow together and we are all in different stages.I agree with things i did not when i first got saved and joined a church. Stay were you are at unless the church goes against the bible directly and grow and learn with them.take any disagreements up with your pastor and not with other memebers so you dont start divisions
---Miles_Iler on 4/7/07

If the statement of faith is Biblical then we follow, however many churches are called to do different things within their community. Unclear about what you mean "statement of faith". Born-again, washed by the blood of the lamb, spirit-filled, etc. is what matters.
---Yolanda on 4/6/07

What is the true meaning of "church"? How was the church defined in the Bible? It was not a building for the early Christians met in their homes. The vine was used as a simile where a bunch of grapes was where the Christians gathered in one place, not necessarily in a building. Maybe on the street corner or a park or a local Starbucks. For "wherever two or more are gathered..." Today's organized churches entertain you to death, is that what you will depend on for eternal life?
---Steveng on 4/6/07

That is why I moved out of the christendom umbrella.I serve Jesus son of God, not man nor his man made theories, I am a Jehovah's Witness former baptist & no matter the debate from non-members they to me are the only concrete bible bound churches, the only outside jw congregation i would pick is Dr.Gene Scott&Mellissa Scotts cathedral in CA I watch their evening sermons.I donot give into churches stil laccepting pagan traditions into their buildings.
---canda on 4/6/07

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We have moved to a different city so we are looking for a new church and one of the problems is finding one that teaches exactly what we believe. It is hard to compromise, but I'm sure we will have to compromise with something. The most important is that wherever we go, they believe Jesus is the only Way.
---Kathy on 4/6/07

Exzucuh what you say is correct, we can all find some common beliefs by 'attending' churches of various denominations. However, if you re-read the original question, this was asking if anyone has compromised their beliefs by becoming an official member of a church where there is something in the statement of faith that the individual cannot accept. I have never become a member of the church that I have attended for almost 20 years now because they teach predestination, which I do not accept.
---f.f. on 7/31/06

You can be part of a church without agreeing with their SOF, As long as they know what your about and you are not a threat to the ministry,I have been in Churches all my life.Baptist,Methodist,United Penecostol,Assembly of God,Church of God, Charismatic,and Independent churches. I can go to any of them I want and find a common belief in the cross and the blood of Jesus.They differ in baptism and Godhead doctrine, But we do not compromise our beliefs but preach whatever God is speaking.
---Exzucuh on 7/30/06

I agree with John. Why shouldn't there be some differences within a church, as long as the basic doctrine of salvation is uncompromised? I'm not sure I could find a church that sees everything as I do (and I may be wrong in some areas). Besides, being exposed to different ideas is healthy, causes me to study my Bible more earnestly and allows for some shifts in viewpoint as I mature spiritually.
Churches, as humanly administrated institutions, are fallible.
---Donna2277 on 7/30/06

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Absolutely read your potential Church's SOF. There are too many wierd things out there going on in all denominations. Each church is different, even if it is under the same Denominational heading you are familiar with. Some of these churches are promoting Mormonism. Even want to model their church after theirs.(because they are a rich church). Ask alot of questions.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/06

I once joined a church, not knowing you had to take classes and sigh a SOF first. Later the Deacon came by and told me I haden't followed Church procedure. I then asked him if there was something that was in the SOF that was not in the Bible, or contrary to scripture, that if there was, I didn't want to be a member.He never said another word about it.
---kathr4453 on 7/30/06

One reason I go to an Evangelical Free church is that they do not hide their doctrinal views; they simply have a 12 points statement of faith.

However, they do have some by-laws by which the local church is governored and there can be some disagreements there.

I once nearly joined an Baptist church but found lots of skeletons in their closet such as who can or cannot be a deacon or elder, etc..
---lee on 7/30/06

In the churches I visited one denomination clearly handled the "statement of faith question". The free Evangelical Church I visited placed in my wife'S and my hands a complete package, stating what the statement of faith was and the practices of the church believed and engaged in. I have nothing but high praise about this practice. And believe it should be a requirement for all churches to do. Question in some churches try to gain members by deception, by concealment? You be the judge.
---mima on 6/14/06

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2. I am, obviously, referring to bible believing people here who will actually understand a Statement of Faith, not people who are unfamiliar with church or expressions such as 'saved by grace' etc. Many churches display their Statement of Faith for all to see, but any who don't should be happy to provide a copy by the next week.
---M.P. on 6/14/06

The church's Statement of Faith should be the most important issue when thinking of joining a congregation. Some people attend a new church out of curiosity, others go along with a friend etc. and if they like what they see on that one or several visits they decide to join. Much later they find that the church teaches something that they cannot accept. If only they had asked to see the Statement of Faith on their first visit they would have known whether they agreed with it or not.
---M.P. on 6/14/06

The Statement of Faith of any church is concerned with what the church believes and teaches. It has nothing to do with what kind of music is played and sung. I don't think anyone should take membership if they cannot accept everything included in the statement of faith. I know of many people who faithfully attend the same church for years but, for this reason, are not actually members. They can be involved in everything except the members meetings.
---emg on 6/14/06

I don't condsider my church a perfect church because their is no such thing. But one thing that my church agrees upon is what we believe according to the statement of faith. But we all don't see eye to eye on some things. Instead of us raising cain, we study it out in the bible and then try and come to an understanding on what the bible says. If the church members can't come to an agreement on their statement of faith and have alot of issues about it, then their church can't grow.
---Rebecca_D on 6/13/06

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4. People who get their 'undergarments' in a twist because of the music are showing their true colors that they could care less what GOD likes, they want to be entertained! Most of all, God is interested in placing you where you will be encouraged and taught to SERVE, not be content with sitting on a soft pew BEING served all the time. Oh, and BTW Mima, if one has a problem with being DISCIPLINED BY CHURCH AUTHORITY, then God questions one's motives to be such a "soul-winner"
---T.S. on 6/13/06

3. He is interested in leading you to one where you will GROW IN HIM, where you will be UNDER SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY of a PASTOR who is more concerned with seeing that growth in you than he is in keeping a pacifier stuck in your mouth. God is more concerned in leading you to a church who has a worship leader that does not obey PEOPLE, but obeys HIM (worship is not FOR you).
---T.S. on 6/13/06

2. You are not going to find a church that fits your every idea of how a perfect church FOR YOU ought to be run. That's not what church is about. PRAY! SEEK GOD! ASK him where HE wants to plant you. He is not interested in leading you to a church where you will be entertained and made very comfortable.
---T.S. on 6/13/06

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times- THIS is the problem with "looking for a church". The way folks LOOK for a church is, they visit various churches usually one time, and if Pastor seems a little too authoritative, or the music seems a little too loud and modern for their taste, or there doesn't seem to be enough activities to keep their little darlings occupied- they decide that's not the place for them.
---T.S. on 6/13/06

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"Had a pastor once say, "If you find the perfect church don't go there, you'll ruin it."

That is a really good way to say it. A bad attitude will still be with you when you get to wherever you are going. A simple change of natural environment isn't going to fix your problem. Tis better to not like the church you are attending and God be working on your attitude than to be liking the church you are attending and not know that you have an attitude.
---Linda6563 on 6/13/06

Had a pastor once say, "If you find the perfect church don't go there, you'll ruin it."
---daphn8897 on 6/13/06

I've been an elder for 20 years and have never been totally in agreement with every detail. I've also never met anyone who was. We are all different and have various knowledge of certain areas of faith. Therefore, we need to learn how to accept things that are different from us without withdrawing and separation.
---john on 6/13/06

As I have remarked about a similar question, if you can't agree with everything your church teaches, why are you a member of it?

Isn't there a bit of hypocrisy involved in such dissemblance?
---Jack on 6/13/06

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