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Is it hard to locate a Biblical church in your part of the country to attend? I am hearing more reports of people that are having to skip church because it actually would hurt their spiritual walk.

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\\Fulfill means complete or finish. I have not seen a dictionary that says fulfill means destroy.\\

Jesus DID say the Law would pass away when it was fulfilled.

Did Jesus fulfill the Law? Yes or no.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/17/15


...Fulfill means complete or finish. I have not seen a dictionary that says fulfill means destroy.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/16/15

Fulfilled the Old and replaced with a new and better covenant. Laws in the Heart.
Heb_8:8-10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

Heb_8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
---Trav on 2/17/15


Well Cluny my last post but not have been up before you stated fulfill means destroy.

When you fulfill a contract that does not mean you destroy the contract. You complete it.

Fulfill means complete or finish. I have not seen a dictionary that says fulfill means destroy.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 2/16/15


I have found a Sound Doctrine Ecclessia/congregation I now attend. We study the scriptures as they are,...I like our bible studies because its 2 way not just the teacher. We read line upon line, precept upon precept ....
---candice on 2/14/15

Sounds really good.
Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
Jer 29:12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
Jer 29:13 ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.
---Trav on 2/16/15


\\Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. \\

Did Jesus fulfill the Law (which means more than the Decalogue)?

If so, then it has passed away.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/16/15




Yes Cluny there is for you make the scripture contradict themselves.


Mat 5:17,18
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

You make fulfill mean destroy which goes against what Jesus said. Fulfill also means make complete.

You also make Paul a liar.


Rom 3:31

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

St. Michaels Orthodox church says the Orthodox church believe in keeping the Ten Commandments. Are they lying?
---Samuelbb7 on 2/15/15


Cluny: "Jesus fulfilled ALL of the Law"

Do you even understand what that means? You say Jesus destroyed the 10C right after He said "Think not that I came to destroy the law". His death on the cross fulfilled the symbolism of the levitical priesthood, and ushered in the new, Melchisedec priesthood (as signified by the rending of the veil at the instant of His death). In so doing, it also fulfilled payment for the penalty of transgressing the 10C (the definition of sin). At that point, the ceremonial laws were no longer in force (including incense burning) but the prohibition against sin (as defined by the 10C) still was.

If there is no law against sin, then there is no need of a Savior.

---jerry6593 on 2/15/15


I have found a Sound Doctrine Ecclessia/congregation I now attend. We study the scriptures as they are, history and all, original meanings. We don't add fluff of worldly ideas. We sing hymnal music, break bread weekly. I like our bible studies because its 2 way not just the teacher. We read line upon line, precept upon precept or otherwise we just read each book of the bible ch by ch vs by vs in order.
---candice on 2/14/15


\\So, Cluny, what commandments were specifically spoken during the Sermon on the Mount?\\

The Beatitudes, among other things, including, "Love your enemies," "Go the second mile," and "Turn the other cheek.

jerry, Jesus fulfilled ALL of the Law (which is more than the Decalogue), therefore it has ALL passed away.

If not, we are still in our sins.

There is no third alternative.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/14/15


Cluny wrote: "Jesus was NOT referring to the Decalogue when He referred to "these commandments of Mine," but to what He said in the Sermon on the Mount."

So, Cluny, what commandments were specifically spoken during the Sermon on the Mount?


Jesus always discussed the ten commandments, Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.
---Steveng on 2/13/15




Cluny: "Jesus was NOT referring to the Decalogue"

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill,

Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

Mat 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself,


Are you so biblically illiterate that you can't see the Ten Commandments in Christ's own words?

Mat 15:9 But in vain they [Cluny] do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

---jerry6593 on 2/14/15


Cluny you are repeating the same mistake of the RCC. Neither of your churches was a separate entity when the New Testament was accepted. Both claim they are the only one true church from them.

History shows what the Early church was like changed. New Doctrines were added such as the Primacy of the Pope and his infallibility. As I am less familiar with yours I cannot give that many. But the use of Icons was not in the Early Church. Jews would never have allowed it.

Does the Orthodox church teach the Ten commandments are done away with? The RCC does not teach that.

The Old Covenant law has four parts. Ceremonial, State, Moral and health. This is a very common doctrine. Do you disagree?
---Samuelbb7 on 2/13/15


\\Cluny: You argue against the words of Christ. It was He who said that those who teach the breaking of the Ten Commandments is called "least" in heaven.\\

Wrong again, as in almost everything you say, jerry.

Jesus was NOT referring to the Decalogue when He referred to "these commandments of Mine," but to what He said in the Sermon on the Mount.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/13/15


Cluny: You argue against the words of Christ. It was He who said that those who teach the breaking of the Ten Commandments is called "least" in heaven. You still don't understand the difference between God's Law (the Ten Commandments) written on the heart and Moses' Law (handwriting of ordinances) which were nailed to the cross. You claim to be Orthodox - keeping the doctrine of the Apostles - while blatantly dismissing the Law which they kept. You also keep some ceremonial laws contained in Moses' handwritings such as burning incense and eating flesh at Passover. No wonder you're so confused.


---jerry6593 on 2/13/15


That includes the worldly denominational "church" of Steveng.

However, the ORTHODOX Church existed before the NT was ever written ...
---Cluny on 2/12/15

His existed long before yours.
And still does. And growing.
No it will never be the "wide" way. But, hey that is found to be very desirable.

Mat_7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

2Co 10:12 For we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.
---Trav on 2/12/15


Trav, I wasn't being sarcastic, I was being real. Everyone will tell you their church is real but but the truth is I find much legalism ...
---shira4368 on 2/11/15

Sincerely, I wasn't being sarcastic towards you either. There are few preachers that qualify the title. Few as on 1 hand or two, my count.
It's ironic in my life that for the 25 years I was an rebel / outlaw by most Church standards, that now I believe fully in Christ ... I find I'm considered an outlaw / rebel again for believing and utilizing scripture.
It is GOD we individually have to face. I've yet to see a preacher seek a scriptural sheep here.
I've only seen you through here. Seen your intents, and spirit as good and All woman.
---Trav on 2/12/15


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\\but not the denominational churches.\\

That includes the worldly denominational "church" of Steveng.

However, the ORTHODOX Church existed before the NT was ever written and the Hebrew canon was still fluid.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/12/15


\\Are they calling you "great" or "least" in heaven?


---jerry6593 on 2/12/15\\

Then by your own exegesis, the SDA will be among the least in heaven, because you all teach that unless an OT precept is in the Decalogue, it can be violated.

I've already mentioned to Samuel several of these, which he claims don't count.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/12/15


Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


Are they calling you "great" or "least" in heaven?


---jerry6593 on 2/12/15


\=\Cluny the list is not from the Ten Commandments.\\

As a matter of fact, if you read the ENTIRE Fourth Commandment, it commands that slaves and farm animals are NOT to work on the Sabbath.

||Nope don't sleep separate. Not in the Ten||

In other words, Samuel, you pick and choose which parts of the Law (which means the ENTIRE OT, not just the Decalogue) you observe.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/11/15


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Cluny wrote: "The Church existed before the Bible."

Most christians have the wrong definition of the word "church." Yes, the true church of God existed before the bible was written, but not the denominational churches. The meaning of "church" is completely different today than it was in Jesus" time. Today it means a denomination or a building. Just by the way "church" is used is eveident of the wrong use: "I didn't see you in church this morning." "Our pastor is great." "Our church has great entertainment." "Our church has a great Christmas/Easter program."

The true church of God ARE the christians, NOT a building or a denomination.
---Steveng on 2/11/15


Cluny the list is not from the Ten Commandments. Doesen't the Orthodox Church teach that Christians are to obey the Ten Commandments? Aren't rest of the laws in a different category. A point most churches have agreed too for two millennium. Didn't the Orthodox say that Sunday was Sabbath should be kept Holy?
I have never gone out and gathered wood then built up a fire on Sabbath. Since that was the rule. So cars do not follow into that category. As for horses before cars. I can look up if you wish. But this point proves nothing. Nope don't sleep separate. Not in the Ten.
I don't work at a job on Sabbath but have helped friends and others when they needed it. I love to teach, study and spend time with my family and special time with GOD.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/11/15


Trav, I wasn't being sarcastic, I was being real. Everyone will tell you their church is real but but the truth is I find much legalism today in churches. I had a preacher to tell me I would go to hell for wearing jeans. He somehow got on my facebook. He said God sent him him to warn me. That is legalism. I am a born again believer and I will never see hell. I don't look like a man, act like a man, talk like like a man. I am 100 percent woman and I wear women's clothing. I blocked him. His denomination is the same as mine. His church is not the same as mine. I feel bad for him and his dogma legalism.
---shira4368 on 2/11/15


\\Should not a church follow this law.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/10/15\\

Does the SDA follow the law about not lighting fires on the Sabbath, or do they drive their cars on that day? Remember how the internal combustion engine works.

Before the invention of the automobile, did SDA drive horses to church on the Sabbath? The commandment explicitly forbade working farm animals on the Sabbath.

Do married members of the SDA sleep in separate beds during menses? This is commanded in the Torah, too.

Or do you pick and choose which of the Bible you follow?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/11/15


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Cluny what about these Bible verses?


Exodus 20:4-6

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Should not a church follow this law.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/10/15


\\Incense can also mean prayer.
\\

In Malachi, it says the Gentiles will offer incense AND A PURE OFFERING in EVERY place. The only place the Jews could offer either was the temple in Jerusalem.

And in Revelation, the Angel offers incense WITH the prayers of the saints, not as a "symbol" of the prayers of the saints.

Furthermore, if you have the Biblical ministry of bishops. presbyters, and deacons, why not use the BIBLE names for them?

Finally, the Bible DOES teach that the Bread and Wine become the Body and Blood of Christ. (Transubstantiation is a way of trying to explain HOW this happens. For the Orthodox, it's sufficient to know that the Holy Spirit does so.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/10/15


If you are lucky enough to find one, they still exist.....somewhere.
---shira4368 on 2/9/15

And that is the Sad part about the times we are living in. They are somewhere...but, we rarely hear about them or of them.

Luk_17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
---Trav on 2/10/15


Cluny I do not read transubstantiation in the bible.

You can have those offices with out using the same names.

Incense can also mean prayer.

Jhn 14:23,24
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

This and Matthew 25 show the true Church. Not rituals.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/10/15


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Cluny: "If your church doesn't do these things, it's not a Biblical Church."

Incense? Talk about adherence to Ceremonial Laws!

Cannibalism? The Bible does not teach the consumption of physical blood and flesh. Christ Himself described the communion testimony as spiritual rather than physical, as:

Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

As a minimum, a REAL biblical church will teach the keeping of the Ten Commandments.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.



---jerry6593 on 2/10/15


StrongAxe on 2/7/15: My comment to Cluny was about ONE comment he made 'The Church existed before the Bible.' on 2/6.

You are indeed correct, that my comment, if placed alone, could be used to 'mean' a lot of odd things.

But I did not suggest it meant anything except that we take the Bible to be connected with Jesus, from John 1, and so we cannot say that the Bible actually when people actually physically wrote it.

The words of the Bible were in God before, but were never revealed to man until the people who write the Bible down were given the 'indication' that they were to write it.

Does that sound OK?
---Peter on 2/9/15


If you are lucky enough to find one, they still exist.....somewhere.
---shira4368 on 2/9/15


\\A biblical church is one that follow what the Bible says. \\

Does this include using incense (see Malachi 1), believing that the Bread and Wine truly become the Body and Blood of Christ, and having bishops, presbyters, and deacons?

If your church doesn't do these things, it's not a Biblical Church.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/9/15


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A biblical church is one that follow what the Bible says.

It does not place tradition above scripture. For when human traditions replace what the Bible says. Then it is no longer a Biblical Church.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/8/15


Peter:

You wrote: Well, true UNLESS you take the Bible to mean the WORD in John 1, which exists from the Beginning

Since the Word in John 1 is described as "the word was God", such an interpretation would mean that the Bible, itself, is God (and must therefore be worshipped as God). This could lead to much cultic thinking.
---StrongAxe on 2/7/15


Cluny on 2/6/15: 'The Church existed before the Bible.'

Well, true UNLESS you take the Bible to mean the WORD in John 1, which exists from the Beginning
---Peter on 2/7/15


\\Yeah. It's evident. They touched it in many places.\\

Be specific. How was it touched? And by whom, and when?

And how do you determine the original text?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/7/15


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In fact, it was the Church that God worked through to determine what WOULD be in the Bible.
---Cluny on 2/6/15

Yeah. It's evident. They touched it in many places. Look where your Orthodox have taken us. 34,000 different denominations. No matter, even through the faulty men that took a little here, added a little there and mistranslated...even this is a witness unto men...preachers and the Churches involved.
Those digging/diving find the Pearl.
Mat_13:46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.
---Trav on 2/6/15


\\There will come a time very soon that denominational churches will compromise biblical truth to keep their non-profit status.\\

The Church existed before the Bible.

In fact, it was the Church that God worked through to determine what WOULD be in the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/6/15


There will come a time very soon that denominational churches will compromise biblical truth to keep their non-profit status. In fact, it's been happening for the past couple of years.
---Steveng on 2/1/15

Do you have more information on this?

I am very interested in knowing what Biblical truth specifically our churches may have been compromising to keep their tax exempt status. Thanks.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/4/15


Being Born again is from John 3 not acts. Explain the following Scriptures.


Jhn 14:23-26

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Can you? Or will you choose to ignore them since they show you wrong?
---Samuelbb7 on 2/4/15


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Samuel
Yes I am born again, Acts 2 v 38, The Only salvation plan of God, being in The Acts Church of The Living God. Which are few Mat.7 v 14.

I do Not give heed to seducing spirits 2nd Cor.11 vs 14 15 of manmade commandments doctrines of men, 3 persons godhead believers in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6 which are many Mat.7 v 13 & of those that worship other diff gods, which makes even more many Mat.7 v 13. All part of the literal gates of hell & shall not prevail against The Acts Church of The Living God.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 2/2/15


Samuelbb7 wrote: "Steveng non profit means they are not owned by the Government. Yes the Church is the people who follow JESUS."

To keep denominational church's non-profit status they must obey certain government/IRS laws. There will come a time very soon that denominational churches will compromise biblical truth to keep their non-profit status. In fact, it's been happening for the past couple of years.

Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's
---Steveng on 2/1/15


Well trav I basically agree. But there are many Christians in many denominations.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/30/15

No argument there.
The scriptures I post are against the "pastors", never the sheep: Jer 23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

Jer 23:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people, Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

Yes...I'll post the other side next...
---Trav on 1/30/15


Steveng non profit means they are not owned by the Government. Yes the Church is the people who follow JESUS.

Lawrence have you been Born Again? You do not seem to talk like it.

You do not refer to any scriptures I post at all. You seem to be saying what the Bible says does not matter.

3John 1:9

I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

You also do not recieve the words of GOD that are written in the Bible.

Goodbye
---Samuelbb7 on 1/30/15


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Christians ARE the church - not a building or a denomination. Christianity is a lifestyle. The meaning of "church" today is completely different than in Jesus' time. Christians are told to meet daily, assembling daily (not weekly) where two or more are gathered. Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and divide christiandom up into over sixty thousnad different denominations each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Denominational churches, counterfeit churches, are also owned by the government as non-profit corporations.
---Steveng on 1/29/15


---Lawrence on 1/29/15

1Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Since God is the Author of Scripture - 2Tim 3:16, I am trying to figure out why you think He would lie, since Scripture that He Authored says that it is impossible for God to lie. Heb 16:8, 1Sam 15:29

2Cor:11 13-14 is refering to those pretending to be Apostles. See Rom 16:17-18. Is someone doing that here?
---aservant on 1/29/15


Samuel
Truth be told. That Is Exactly what You're Doing. Because You being under the influence of 2nd. Cor.11 v 14 deceiving light with the 3 persons godhead churches.

God has Only One Church Acts 2 v 38, Matt.7 v 14.

Devil has relig orgs churches trinity in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6, even those that worship other diff gods, which is more many, Mat.7 v 13. It's your choice. No matter you & others say, being with the literal gates of hell shall not prevail against The Acts Church of The Living God.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 1/29/15


Again Lawrence you just say words. You do not address the scriptures that say you are wrong. You ignore the word of GOD. Is that not a sign of blindness when you cannot even seem to read what the Bible says.

You judge others by your words and state you know that GOD does what you say.

That is also against the Word of GOD. JESUS our High Priest is the Judge not you.

John 8:16
And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

Hebrews 4:14
Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/29/15


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Samuel

Most Manmade commandments doctrines of men, 3 persons godhead believers in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6 which are many Mat.7 v 13 Aren't keeping The Lord's Words.

In The Word of God Is Acts 2 v 38, which are few peoples Mat.7 v 14. The Only salvation God has to offer.

All others Are under the influence of 2nd.Cor.11 v 14 with his ministers v 15, he has His so called salvation plans with churches. And he is making peoples believe that it's God. Such good people but so Spiritually Impaired. It's your choice.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 1/28/15


What I say does not matter Lawrence.

It is what GOD says that matters. But you do not show that you agree with what GOD says. You say the word of GOD is wrong.

John 14:23,24
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

You do not respond to the Word of GOD. You just keep saying you are right.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/28/15


Samuel
No matter what you & others say bout me, other 1 God Jesus name Acts Church peoples maybe on here.

You's 3 persons godhead believers in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6. Which Is All part of the literal gates of hell shall not prevail against The Acts Church of The Living God.
2nd.Cor.11 v 14 Is pushing you's to try, but shall not prevail against The Acts Church of The Living God.

There's Only 1 God, He has Only 1 Church. In the book of Acts.
Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 1/27/15


Yes there are Biblical churches. While Lawrence believe a church should only teach one thing and all others are lost for not sounding that one note endlessly. There are many churches that have a Biblical base and teach most of the Bible. Remember Lawrence we are saved by Grace something you do not teach.


Jhn 14:23,24

Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

All of us need to heed these words.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 1/27/15


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1 Biblical Church exist today. Matt.16 v 18, Acts 2 v 38. 1Cor.16 v 1, & other scriptures, Are Acts Church of The Living God. Which are few peoples Mat.7 v 14. God gave to Apostle Peter Acts 2 v 38 for the day of Pentecost, The other Apostles taught The Very same. If God was double minded, He would have gave the other Apostles other diff to preach. But He Did Not!

The commandments doctrines of men 3 persons godhead believers in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6, which are many, / even those that worship other diff gods buddha hindu others etc, which are more many Mat.7 v 13, trying to steal their way John 10 v 1. They will Not prevail.

Glory to God The Father which Is & who Is Jesus Christ..
---Lawrence on 1/27/15


Duke where is it written that the elect will not be a member of a church? Did you realize God elected all before the foundation of the world? We are to assemble ourselves together. It doesn't say at church but just to assemble.
---shira4368 on 1/25/15


Yes The Biblical Church Is, Acts 2 v 38. Which are few peoples, Mat.7 v 14.

All others Are commandments doctrines of men. The 3 persons godhead believers in Rev.17 vs 4 5 6, even the j witness peoples. / peoples that worship other diff gods buddha, hindu, moony, hare krishna other etc. Which Are many peoples. Mat.7 v 13.
Not of God.

Glory to God The Father which Is, & who Is Jesus Christ.
---Lawrence on 1/24/15


It is written that the elect will be banned from the organised church. There is only one church, the body of the Son of man.
---duke on 12/15/07


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Not where I am now in WV. I have been in KY for the last year. I soon found that the local Baptist churches were all about keeping women in positions of music and food. Women were not allowed to hold ordination certificates of any kind (counseling), not allowed to vote in the church...not allowed to voice an opinion. I left the county whenever possible so I could WORSHIP God with other believers. My spirit was under fire and I am still healing. Most of the people I met there are spiritually dead.
---Amy9384 on 12/12/07


TS is Full Gospel like the baptist church???
---Betty on 8/25/06


Jimbo, that is an excuse of not to go to church. If a person was truely a man/woman of God, then they wouldn't let petty things get in the way of their spiritual walk with God. I don't have that problem. I attend a good country church that the Pastor speaks from the bible and if he steps on your toes while he is preaching, oh well bring it on. That is the problem with some churchs the Pastor steps on peoples toes and their feelings get hurt and they stay out of church.
---Rebecca_D on 6/22/06


3. He is an excellent Pastor: He preaches the uncompromised FULL Gospel, he loves and cares for his flock above and beyond the call of duty, he is an humble man who seeks no glory for his own, he loves the Lord God with all his heart and is a man of intense prayer and study of the Word. He's very tenderhearted toward people, and extremely sensitive to the moving of the Spirit. I tell him that if I were not married to him, I'd still want him for a Pastor
---T.S. on 6/19/06


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2. So my answer to your question is I belong to both. I grew up in the Assemblies of God, but now belong to a Full Gospel Church, which my husband happens to Pastor. (which makes no difference, because we have always belonged to and faithfully supported the churches we have belonged to, way before becoming Pastor)
---T.S. on 6/19/06


I am a part of the body of Christ, therefore it is my desire to be a doer of the word and not just a hearer only. That word clearly teaches that believers are to work together as a family (local churches)for MANY reasons. If you let God direct you to where HE wants you to serve and grow in Him, you cannot go wrong.
---T.S. on 6/19/06


Mike I absolutely know the rc didn't have any part in writing God's Word. God breathed on men what to write and they obeyed. The bible is the Holy inspired Word of God.
---shira on 6/19/06


T.S., What church do you belong too? The heavenly church or the physical church of this world. Many false teachings today, what church you suggest, Pentecostal?
---Thomas_D. on 6/19/06


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Shira, he short answer is the Greek Ortodox church, or what became it.
Jack will tell you that the original church was the RCC, and that htye have all the font of knowledge. As a point of historic information, the NT was written in Greek, the RCC use a Latin translation.
---mike8384 on 6/19/06


Tracy, I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Yes, WE are the body, but the Word clearly directs us to be joined together in fellowship and service. GOD ordained Pastors to teach, instruct, to minister to and watch over flocks. EVER ONE needs a Pastor. A fire burning with one log all by itself will soon go out
---T.S. on 6/19/06


You don't need a church building to worship--we are the church. Sometimes it is better to stay away from "churches" and just stick to scripture.
---Tracy on 6/18/06


They are out there, but the main problem people have is the bible/ church conforming to their idea on what the bible/ church should be saying. Find a place that follows what not God says, and not what people want God to say.
---Jerry on 6/18/06


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Hmm, a church wrote the bible? And all this time I thought it was men, mostly Jews inspired by the Holy Spirit who wrote the bible.
---NV_Barbara on 6/18/06


Sadly Jack, I have tried to find an Orthodox church, but there is only one in the SW of England, and it's nearly 40 miles away
---mike8384 on 6/18/06


All churches are built by imperfect people. Christ told John to write a letter to each of the seven churches. Yes, Virginia, there are good points to every church and bad points. Its up to the people to question the churchs doctrines and be ready to prove it from the Word of God the Bible. If all else fails, start your own Bible believing home church. You will find in the long run that other people will protest YOUR church much like you protested other churches. Its part of growing in the Spirit.
---Steven on 6/17/06


Jack, what church wrote the bible?
---shira on 6/17/06


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Finding the perfect church would be like finding the perfect spouse. There are lots of churches in our small city that I would go to. I may not agree with everything but I still have someting to offer and believe there is something for me to glean from in many of them. For those who don't go because it would be harmful, how about going to give instead of going to get. I've had a 2 hour root canal that didn't hurt me spiritually so I don't know how you can be harmed by going to church.
---john on 6/17/06


Jimbo--have you tried the church that wrote the Bible to start with?
---Jack on 6/17/06


There are meeting through out the world that teach the complete counsel of God. They teach the message of the God's grace after the fashion of the apostle Paul. The Gospel of the Grace of God was given to him to give to the Gentiles. It is the only message that will build us up and give us an inheritance. Acts 20:32. It is a very convicting message and doesn't cater to the flesh at all. These are small meeting for the most part because they build Jesus up and not self.
---Debbie on 6/17/06


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