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.markb, you will see more and more unsaved opponents questioning the content of the holy scriptures, and even denying the Lord Jesus Christ. Indeed I accept the original 40 verses which have been God-breathed and included in the original manuscripts and preached from and believed on and God's power manifested thereby in the early temples. As I said before the verses are found in more than one manuscript, and have been rightly translated into English, and are accepted as God's words without reproach.
---Eloy on 8/17/07


I used my KJV bible and thats all I need. The reason is the NIV misspell, take out, or even add to their bible including others and KJV doesn't do that.
---ANN on 8/16/07


KJV only, because the KJV is the closest to the original manuscripts. I do know that the NIV has some verses missing, as well as some of the words left out or changed. I am not criticizing which Bible you choose to study, but I believe that the KJV , along with a good Bible commentary will help you to completely understand what God is saying.
---Cynthia on 8/16/07


Eloy...
Hey KJV translated using manuscripts at its time...11th and 12th century manuscripts...
NIV translated using much much earlier manuscripts...theres one full new testament from the 4th century...SO what happened w/ the translations???
---mark_B. on 8/16/07


Well...the earlier manuscripts does not have those 40 full verses that the KJV has, i know it sux really bad...And i'm not sure what your going to trust but i'm going to trust the ealier manuscripts...so those 40 verses were actually an addition to the bible which the KJV uses....One more thing
---mark_B. on 8/16/07




THeres nothing b/w the KJV and NIV that undermines major things...you can show everything you want, but it doesnt matter whether or not you use the KJV and NIV
---mark_B. on 8/16/07


I used to preach and teach only from the KJV until I got tired of explaining what words and phrases meant to new Christians who couldn't understand the old language. King David said his son came out of his bowels. This is anatomically incorrect and needs explanation to us in the 21st. century.
New Christians are frustrated by reading and being taught a language that they can't understand.
---john on 8/16/07


Eloy is this some cult teaching - all translations have some discrepencies - the finger of God was not on King James

I understand the KJV is the closest to the original GK but it can be hard to understand.

Men and woman who loved God and His Holy word translated the NIV

by the way which KJV are you talking about
it isn't from EGW is it?
---Andrea on 8/16/07


.katie, I gave an example of the big difference between an unholy book like the NIV, and the Holy Bible like the KJV. One is God's words translated into English, and the other is man's words translated into English, one came from God and has dunamis, and the other is built by man has no life. A lie is the enemies doing, it is simply the truth which has been twisted: you take away some verses, and add some more words, and then you no longer have the truth, but a lie completely devoid of the Holy Spirit.
---Eloy on 8/16/07


Eloy, what makes one Bible more "holy" than the other? So, by reading the NIV, I'm not reading God's word? That God can't speak through it to me? We have different translations/versions/paraphrases so the EVERYDAY person can read, study, understand God's word.
---Katie on 8/15/07




Andrea, I posted John 1:1,2 and not I John 1:1,2. John is the 4th book of the N.T, and I John is the 23rd book of the N.T.
---Eloy on 8/15/07


.ed, I translated this passage from the Greek Constantinopolitan MSS.
---Eloy on 8/15/07


.katie, the serious follower of God's Word should acquire and study a copy of the Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic scriptures, or at least obtain a copy of the 1560 Geneva Bible which was translated from the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. Not all "Bibles" are holy, and indeed it does matter which kind of Bible you read for the truth and right instruction in this life.
---Eloy on 8/15/07


.katie, the serious follower of God's Word should acquire and study a copy of the Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic scriptures, or at least obtain a copy of the 1560 Geneva Bible which was translated from the Hebrew and Greek scriptures. Not all "Bibles" are holy, and indeed it does matter which kind of Bible you read for the truth and right instruction in this life.
---Eloy on 8/15/07


NOT THE NIV... oh... horrid translation...horrid. Try a greek word study and you will see. I use New King James a lot.
---Paul on 8/14/07


To Elroy. I've done quite a bit of work on the textual issue and I've never come across your quotation. From what Greek text is it taken?
---ed_the_other_one on 8/14/07


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The New Living Translation.
Because it was easier for me to grasp or understand the themes and principles of the Bible.- also, I like the choice of words it uses.
---tony on 8/14/07


ELOY - WHAT SCRIPTURE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
that is nothing like the NIV I just looked at 1JN 1:1-2.
That which was from the beginning, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched--this we proclaim concerning the Word of life 2The life appeared....
---Andrea on 8/14/07


Eloy, if you are worried about mistranslations, everyone should learn Greek and Hebrew to read the Bible without any mistranslations. Reading anything in the original language is better. Every translation loses something because English doesn't have all the words or level of words used in Greek and Hebrew. The Bible was translated so EVERYONE can read and understand. I like the NRSV and NIV because I understand it. I also want to read the Martin Luther German Bible because that is an accurate translation.
---Katie on 8/14/07


The verse quoted by Eloy "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God." is taken from the bible used by Jehovah's Witnesses. I have forgotten what it is called.
---RitaH on 8/14/07


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,markb, I did not say I was quoting from an NIV, however since you brought it up, I also testify against NIV for being a corrupt and unholy book. As fas as literal translation, I have translated the word literally and have not wrongly changed the tense of the verb used as many translations have. The original Greek word here is hn, correctly translated, "being".
---Eloy on 8/13/07


.markb, all you have to do is take an NIV and compare it side-by-side with either a KJV or better yet compare it with a copy of the original scriptures and you would see all the blatant adulterations made. You can find websites online that have already done the comparitive research on this. I do declare that an NIV, including every other corrupt text of the Holy Bible, is not even worth reading.
---Eloy on 8/13/07


The JW's Bible has changed the translation to say In the beginning was the word and the word was "A" God.

its one of the foundations of their religion
---Andrea on 8/13/07


Woohhhh Eloy...never does NIV say that the word was a God...it says the word was God...

And it refers to the beginning so it must be past tense, doesnt change the fact that God is still the word today
---mark_B. on 8/13/07


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It is an interesting study to read the scriptures from different translations. I'm always fascinated that sometimes it sounds like a different bible. Just goes to show it is a good thing to meditate on the word and let it minister itself to you. (sounds a little strange but its true)
---Andrea on 8/13/07


Hi All, I find all this very interesting with different views on different Bibles. Personally I use the KJV. I have used the others to do Bible study and to perhaps give a different approach to what ever I was studying and found that you can get a totally different meaning from the texts with a few changes of a few words.
Haley
---Haley on 8/13/07


Forget different translations...Let the Holy Spirit guide and teach you.
---duane on 8/13/07


.katie, If I write, "In beginning being the Word, and the Word being from God, and God being the Word." And again I write, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a God." Which would be "the best" or true translation? If you chose the 1st, you are correct, the 1st is a direct translation from the original Greek scriptures. Notice how the 2nd writing has falsehood in it? so one can be led astray by reading adulterated scriptures.
---Eloy on 8/13/07


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There are bibles and bibles and bibles, but then there is the "HOLY Bible". Apart from the copies of the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures, the 1560 Geneva Bible is the best English Bible, but not always easy to find and therefore the 1611 KJV comes in second best. When you understand that the first Bible translators wanted to preserve God's literal words, then you can appreciate their perfectionistic and meticulous translations.
---Eloy on 8/13/07


FYI

"The Message", "Living Bible", and "Good News" bibles are not translations. They are paraphrases. There is a huge difference between a "paraphrase" and a "translation."
---daphn8897 on 8/13/07


To Ramon, we have no originals, only compies or maybe they qualify as translations? God in is infinate wisdom will not allow His Word to fail, no matter how hard humans try and change it. The truth still comes through. Remember that 'all' scripture is good for . . .
---dan on 8/13/07


I've used KJV, American Standard, NIV and the NKJV until God led me to a web-site while researching 1 Timothy 3:16. It had the KJV and all the others, but in the newer versions "God" was ommitted and replaced with "He". This made a big difference, as "He" could be confused as Christ instead of showing the manifest of God as man. I learned of IMPORTANT omissions and changes made in the newer versions. Now I use the KJV and a concordance or lexicon if I have a question.
---LisaR on 8/13/07


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I don't think there is one "best" translation of the Bible. I think we should use the translation that best suits us and that we can understand. Personally, I prefer the NRSV, but do use the Message and NIV, because each translation uses different wording to help me better understand what I am reading.
---Katie on 8/13/07


Depends what bible I have at the time,I have 3 in my house, I mainly use the NIV, why? because it is easy to read & I still get Gods message.
---candice on 8/13/07


The NIV has words turned around and so scriptures mean differently than what they are supposed too.My husband has researched all the Bibles out there and I had mentioned maybe getting one. So PLEASE just be careful what you read.I know its easier to understand to new Christians.But the KJV is the best.
---Chanda on 8/13/07


Many years ago( about 25 now), Wilbur Pickering (Wycliff Bible Translators) came and spoke at the church I was attending. He dealt with the translation/version issue.

He stated he believed the KJV to be best, but, as with alcohol, if you drink enough of any, regardless of the proof, you will get drunk. His point was that God's Spirit is going to move through even flawed/diluted translations.

Personally, I use KJV, NKJV, ESV, the Wuest NT, and Amplified,
---daphn8897 on 8/13/07


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"Shira, can you be specific about what some of the differences are between KJV and NKJV?"
Jack
Jack if you really wanted an answer to your question you would have it all ready. There is not enough space for Shira to answer your inquiry of deception.
Compare virgin and young woman and see if you can tell a difference....
When your daughter marries do you want her to be a young woman or a virgin?
---Elder on 8/13/07


Marcia - thank you.
transparency is a virtue.
As many times as I laugh here - many more times there have been tears flowing bc of the burden I have for those that do not rest easy in His love.

and for the rest of you "BACK OFF" hahahahahahahah
---Andrea on 8/13/07


Andrea >>>

I can tell you have a great since of humour because your always laughing. This is about the third time I have caught you laughing on this sight. I almost got you figured out.

One thing I know is for certain you've got a quick wit and a strong backbone.
---Marcia on 8/13/07


My research shows that for word for word the best translation is the KJV. Of course I wouldn't try using the old English but for sheer poetry its beautiful.
---Andrea on 8/12/07


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I thought if the King James was good enough for Paul it should be good enough for me. hahahahahahahahah

I love my NIV study Bible. Plus various others, but I have 18 years worth of prayers in this Bible and its falling apart. i'm thinking about duct taping it!
---Andrea on 8/12/07


I've been reading the KJV every since I first started reading. I was about six years old. My mother started me in the Book of Psalms. Around Christmas time I would challenge myself by reading all the Gospels before Christmas came. However as I got older, I say around nine my favorite book became the Book of Revalation and the Prophets.
---Marcia on 8/12/07


As a teenager, I realized that books like Amos and Jonah were connected to the OT so then I started trying to put everything in chronological order. Around this time I began studying the OT.
---Marcia on 8/12/07


In High School my focus was directly on the NT, especially 1Corinthians and Galations. When I got save at Twenty years of age I began focusing on the Gospel's. I could not figure out how after all those years of study I had missed the point.
---Marcia on 8/12/07


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I must admit after listen to a lot of the X-RCs and RCs on this site I am starting to see why.

Nevertheless, I feel like I will always be connected to the KJV because it is what I grew up on, however if I don't have a KJV near me and I need to look up a scripture I will use what evers there. I have enough KJV in me to make the connections I need to make.
---Marcia on 8/12/07


I use the NASB, the NIV and a Comparative Study Bible with four translations, NIV, NASB, KJV, and the Amplified Bible in it.

I like to get the full flavor of the multiple translations.
---Madison1101 on 8/12/07


Looking at the way Satan deceived Eve, God's words were used. Did God say? Then he left something out. Eve then added the part about touching the tree. God wrote that can not add to or take away from God's word.
---geraa7578 on 7/14/06


Here's a little humor to lighten the debate: Once, in a church service during testimony time, my father in law said this little old lady was testifying about the Word of God, and she got on a kick about how all other translations were "of the devil". She said "Bless God, if the King James Version was good enough for Paul and the Apostles, it's good enough for ME!"
---T.S. on 6/22/06


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Jack & Ramon, I do believe that the Holy Spirit guided the translators of the KJV. I have not found errors in it. I have found errors done by various printers here and there such as incorrect capitalization, but not in the text itself. I apologize if it offends you that I do believe God when he said he would preserve his Word. A God who had enough power to inspire His words would also have enough power to preserve them. Jesus even told us that (Mark 13:10)
---tofurabby on 6/21/06


Loree, if you see no reason to elaborate on God's word, what are you doing with a Bible commentary which does EXACTLY that very thing?
---Jack on 6/21/06


Because I trust that the Holy Spirit will guide my studies and reveal what is already written in my heart, I stick with the KJV and KJ Commentary which sits right with my spirit. It's what I grew up with and I've found no reason to elaborate on His Word.
---Loree on 6/21/06


Jack: Couldn't we compare this to meat sacrificed to idols? Didn't God say it was okay to eat meat sacrificed to idols? What is a symbol?
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


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symbols and books only have power if people give them that power.
---Grace on 6/20/06


I use several. For personal devotion I prefer the NIV, but there are several different bibles out there that are reasonably accurate. No, I do not believe that KJV is the only way to get into heaven--as a matter of fact, I think that belief is a dangerous delusion.
---Rick on 6/20/06


Ramon: And some Christians use the triquetra because it IS a sign of the true source of all power--the Most Holy Trinity.

I think God sees the intention, don't you?
---Jack on 6/20/06


Madison1101. "Do you believe the sign has some sort of power?" As far as the sign goes, Im not sure. I know it is use by many in the occult for many reasons.Could the sign have some sort of power? Who knows. It could have powers.
---Ramon on 6/20/06


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Shira, can you be specific about what some of the differences are between KJV and NKJV?
---Jack on 6/20/06


Rev. Herb, I don't remember what was on it. I just know I started reading it before I realized what it was. I was so upset with myself, I got my kjv and starting looking things up. Very, very different, they were. I just threw it in the trash. I like your point about showing it to others, but I would not want a demon book in my house like the book of shadows.
---shira on 6/20/06


Ramon: Do you believe the sign has some sort of power?
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


tofurabby. "I will read the KJV as the literal Word of God" The KJV is a "Translation" it is not the literal word of God. The original ( Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.) is the literal word of God. Every word,etc. The KJV is a Translation and thus contains errors in it. Very small compare to NIV, but it is not the "Literal" word of God. No Translation is, only the original ones are. All others(kjv etc) was translated by people.
---Ramon on 6/20/06


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Jack. Of course not!. The book of shadows or something like that are use by many witches.Do they have the same sign? For what i research they do and many in the occult had use the same sign.
---Ramon on 6/20/06


Jack: Ignorance is bliss.
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


Ramon and Rev Herb--You don't believe everything you see on a fictional TV drama is absolute truth do you?

According to WIKIPEDIA in their article "Book of Shadows", this is a FICTIONAL copy of the BOS used on the show.

It's amazing how little discernment and discretion in where they get information people on these blogs display.
---Jack on 6/20/06


tofurabby: If you believe the Bible is God's literal words, then you can NOT believe that the KJV or any other translation is "God's literal words," as the originals are in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

You don't actually think that God spoke to Moses, David, Paul and others in 17th century Jacobean English, do you? (Actually in pre-Jacobean English.)
---Jack on 6/20/06


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shira,
did yours have the symbol on it. I keep mine to show it to people. I have been thinking about getting a book of shadows to show people they both have the symbol. The symbol is actually 3 6's linked together.
---Rev_Herb on 6/20/06


"The triquetra (often, triqueta) is a tripartate symbol composed of three interlocked vesica pisces, marking the intersection of three circles. It is most commonly a symbol of the Holy Trinity (Father, son, Holy spirit) used by the Celtic Christian Church, sometimes stylized as three interlaced fish...
The triqueta symbol predates Christianity and was likely a Celtic symbol of the Goddess..."(Alternative Religion website)
---Grace on 6/20/06


Jack.Well the "sign" can be use for different things. Its true that the sign (triquetra) was use by ancient Christans to resemble the biblical doctrine of the Trinity. I dont know too much about the Book Of Shadows except my pass viewing of a TV show called Charmed on Wb11 and TNT. The book of Shadows had that sign to resemble the Power of Three. The Three Sister. Actually the book of shadows was good, it is protected by evil.Was the sign borrow from pagan or did witches borrow from christians?
---Ramon on 6/20/06


I caution the readers about any spurious writings. When reading these other books, please keep in mind that they are not inspired (ie: God breathed or God spoken), and thus should not be relied upon for truth or foundation for ones belief and salvation. Only the words known to have been spoken from God are the basis for our faith, which is the Hebrew Torah, and Greek and Syriac New Testament, which were collected from the temples of our God who we worship and are commonly known as the Holy Bible.
---Eloy on 6/20/06


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Jack, yes I have Lamsa's translation.
---Eloy on 6/20/06


Jack, I will read the KJV as the literal Word of God unless it tells me that it is using an analogy or something of that sort. That way I can aviod exaggerations or embellishments that others use to spin the text to create their own doctrines. Anything other than literal gives man a license to mold the Word of God. I dont believe that the Bible is composed of Gods ideas, but that it is Gods literal words. You may not agree with this, but dont tell me I'm wrong.
---tofurabby on 6/20/06


Rev. Herb, I bought a small bible to fit in my purse and when I got home, it was NKJV. I dumped it and my sister bought me one for my birthday that fit in my purse.(real KJV)
---shira on 6/20/06


I use more than one when it helps to illustrate a point but primarily I memorize and preach the KJV
---Pharisee on 6/20/06


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The only Bible I had when I was young was the KJV with references and so I became used to the flowery language and I like it best. I also use Strongs Concordance and a Strongs Bible Dictionary. Sometimes to be sure I understand I will go to the Bible that has 7 translations ,I don't know the name of it. I have a nice little cross section of study books like Matthew Henrys Commentary, and other Bibles but I rarely use them.
---Darlene_1 on 6/19/06


Eloy: Interesting that you use the Peshitto. It's the official Bible of the Syrian and Assyrian Churches. Are you familiar with the George Lamsa's translation of it?
---Jack on 6/19/06


A note about the volume called LOST BOOKS OF THE BIBLE.

In the 1800's this was published under the title NEW TESTAMENT APOCRYPHA, but wasn't as salable.

There are early Christians writings in here, such as the letters of St. Ignatius, that were considered valuable and worth preserving (not an easy task when everything had to be hand written), but at the same time were NEVER considered canonical scripture.
---Jack on 6/19/06


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