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What Makes A Great Pastor

What makes a great pastor? What qualities must he have?

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I gotta go along with Christina.

The one that will tell you the truth! That's the only great pastor there is. Anyone else ain't a pastor: they're a liar. I've known one great pastor in my 60 years -- Jesus. He'll tell ya the truth. He is the Truth. And His Holy Spirit will bring it to your remembrance... if you're willing to listen.

Now, that don't mean there aren't others who are godly men. In fact, I know one man... but I still test every single word out of his mouth. All sin and fall short of the glory of God. But... it's a matter of whether or not they admit it and learn from it. Very few do, ya know.
---BruceB on 2/16/09


Judgment and terror, Rev. 17 verse 1. And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither, I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters. Rev. 22 verse 19. For I testify unto "EVERY MAN" that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book. If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues of this book: Is this man here?
---joe on 1/21/09


Rod~ It sounds like your spiritual walk is going well. I agree...it is best to focus on the here and now, and let God reveal His perfect plans in His perfect time.

I also agree that, like you, I don't see the 2nd coming as having 'come and gone.' I am very interested in the concept of the 'Day of the Lord.' I read where we are now living in 'man's day,' but soon the Lord will have 'His Day' (Day of the Lord) It seems clear according to the Bible that it will be a time of:

1. Judgment and Terror
2. (But also) Wonderful Repentance and Restoration. (I love how God works.) :)

---Anne on 1/19/09


Anne: Right...a few seconds. :)
I bought a book "Parousia" and started reading it,550 pages, small print, a bit wordy, but an okay spirit. Some things made sense, but when I read the Bible, without "someone looking over my shoulder" sort of speak, I don't see "The coming" having come and gone. I spend more time seeking what God wants today. I didn't ignore your question on "what Peter's filling of the Holy Spirit." It deserves more of an answer than I can do justice for it. In short, I believe we can be "filled with the Spirit," speaking to ourselves in songs,... filled with an inner peace only God can give. He'll convict of sin, what we shouldn't do, righeousness, what we should do.
---Rod on 1/19/09


There is a spirit of disarmament. And in talking to a pastor I'm always looking for discernment on his part. Occasionally I see discernment but mostly not. I have just returned from a meeting with a pastor, pastor of a mega church the meeting was about missionaries to Mexico. This church after five years and $50,000 in travel and various other expenses does not have a person(a missionary) on the ground in Mexico. Also they do not have anything other than a few Bible studies which are never held unless they go down. This man is knowledgeable, very qualified, and excellent in every way he merely fails to recognize(or discern) how to solve his church's problems. Absolutely amazing.
---mima on 1/19/09




Rod~ Thanks for sharing. I normally get bored of televangelists after a few seconds, and it sounds like you do too.

By the way, how is your 'search for truth' going? I heard you mention once that you had been on a search for truth, and I liked the way you stated that.

The search for truth in my opinion is a massive battle. But as the Bible teaches in the last days, this will be the case. (I'm not sure that preterests feel that way...that doctrine is quite confusing to me...what are your thoughts about it?)
---Anne on 1/19/09


Correct Anne: Joel's messaage does not feed the spirit.
His message is a feel good humanistic message. He basically says the same thing every week. "God has the best for you. God is going to make good things happen for you." etc. He has a bit of an horoscope pyschology. He says, God will give you a front parking spot, and sure enough, you go shopping and a front spot shows up. But you ignore all the times one didn't find that front spot. My criticism of his message is that it is not spiritual, it feeds the mind (maybe) with hope. By the way, he gets free advertising for his book, and he would not have a book if he wasn't preaching.
---Rod on 1/17/09


Joel Osteen is a minister of himself HE ONLY serves himself - Rhonda- out right falsehoods

Joel doesn't even get a salary from the church profits. He is definitely not self serving. he makes his money off of his book writing.

He does preach the word of the Lord. I hear him. I have watched him.
---paul on 1/17/09


Rhonda~ I have no idea why people get inspired by Joel Osteen. I don't see the spiritual meat there at all.
---Anne on 1/10/09


Joel Osteen...

no degree...

loves God with all his heart...

successful?

'nuff said...
*******

thousands followed Christ only 120 left at pentacost ...success is not the "size" of one's flock ...false ministers are growing stronger every day ...we live in the last days

Joel Osteen is a minister of himself HE ONLY serves himself ...he does not know Gods Word and RARELY uses it ...he knows how to manipulate people with his charismatic personality about an IDEA of Gods Word

he runs a country club "church" nothing more nothing less
---Rhonda on 1/10/09




Joel Osteen...

no degree...

loves God with all his heart...

successful?

'nuff said....
---Jonny_Arterburn on 1/10/09


A great pastor leads a crucified life of prayer and fasting. Inside you will find the Holy Spirit.
A faithful wife and a praying congregation will hold the pastor's arms up.
If the pastor is led of the Holy Spirit, the lost and dying will find their way to the front door, and Jesus Christ.
---Philip on 1/14/08


He should have a heart for wounded people, saved and unsaved. He should be genuine and real in his humanity and share that from the pulpit. He should have a minimum of a Bachelors degree from a Bible college, but preferably a graduate seminary degree. He should be a praying man, who is totally sold out to God.
---Madison1101 on 11/2/07


Mima: "Most pastors are self-important therefore putting God on a back burner. Do you agree or disagree about this?"

I don't know if I could say most, but I agree that this is true about many. People are often decieved by them when they "look" good, have all sorts of credentials and are good speakers, often with large congregations,but without the Spirit, the following is in the flesh.
---Christina on 2/7/07


Donna: "1 John 2:27 - But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and YE NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Man has taught me little, the Holy Spirit has taught me much."

AMEN!
---Christina on 2/7/07


I'm surprised at the amount of emphasis that is put on the "pastor" ministry when there are 5 ministries listed and the word "pastor" is only mentioned once in the N.T. And we see not even one person in the N.T. aside from Jesus who was called a "pastor".
So where do we get all this emphasis on this one great leader, preacher, soul winner, teacher, evangelizer, church builder, prayer warrior, etc. from?
---john on 2/6/07


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I agree Mima. There are many who are driven to ministry by feelings rather than knowing. It's important to KNOW God wants you in ministry.
---Matthew on 2/5/07


MIMA== Man, that is for sure. God is not impress with credentials. Not in the least bit. He wants His people talking to Him, fear Him, love Him, Listening to Him, OBEY Him. All of these things and much more is serving God. Not any of these things calls for a PHD.
---CATHERINE on 2/5/07


#1 Better to have a man for a pastor who cannot read and write and is called of God. Than to have a man with a Ph.D. in theology who is not called. Many people are serving as pastors who called themselves, are maybe their mother called them, or perhaps it's a family tradition. How utterly ridiculous.
---Mima on 2/5/07


# 2 this subject of what makes a good pasture is very important. I can remember having churches call me to be their pastor, and I even remember not knowning whether I should be or not. Today however I'm very confident that I was not called to be a pastor nor am I qualified to be a pastor. In working with many pastors I have yet to see one who is on fire to win souls. Most pastors are self-important therefore putting God on a back burner. Do you agree or disagree about this?
---Mima on 2/5/07


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And the wise need to become fools again to understand. As a un schooled Christian I have found Gods word to be simple.I gave my life to HIM then I became a servant. Now I have been from USA to 4 other countries telling others about Christ and the love HE has for the world. I have seen the Lord touch the blind to see and give their life to him. SIMPLE yes Repent and move on dont serve pastors serve God if we all do this we wont have time to build mega churchs with mega pastors.
---John on 2/5/07


A pastor should be able to rightly divide the word of God and lead by Godly principles, his home should be in order and he should be a good example to his family and neighborhood. His wife should be his help and likewise he hers and they should be the role model that the church can look up to. He should be confidential in all matters, his sleeves should be rolled up and out into in the community showing his deacons how to work along side the lost bringing in a healthy crop of souls.
---Carla5754 on 2/5/07


I forgot something very important. Integrity. A pastor must have it. I misquoted a scripture also. We have no courage or strength of our own. In the previous blog on this, I said power, instead of strength. I must thank Jesus.
---CATHERINE on 2/4/07


A great pastor will wait on God. If you want a powerful ministry it has to be in God's timing. He or she Must be called by God. ONCE you are in, never forget where you came from. Give other people a chance. [love people] He or she loves God. Always preach by the power of God. We have no power or courage of our own to serve God. We must depend on God [power from above.]
---CATHERINE on 2/4/07


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What makes a great pastor? Called and anointed, tried and approved of God.
Qualities? The manifestation of above.
Frank
---Frank on 2/4/07


It's a calling. Not everyone who becomes a pastor, should be a pastor.
---Merne on 2/4/07


His understanding of the cross, and all that it means to us in our everyday walk with God. Everything we recieve from God is predicated on us understanding that it can only come to us by our faith in the fact that Jesus already paid for it at Calvary
---craige on 12/9/06


Our pastor's greatest quality is sincerity in his Love for the Lord. We see that every Sunday. In his weekly class He will always answer ANY questions and discuss them. He does not just quote scriptures and can deal with the hard questions many others can't or won't.
---Virginia on 12/9/06


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Male or femail, having a minimum of a Master of Divinity from from a nationally ranked mainline seminary. Preaches from a prepared written text that is consistent for multiple service on the same Sunday and durable in that can be reprinted. Uses the liturgy properly and does not try to ad lib. Can use service time effectively and can consistently delivering an effective sermon in a 22 minute window in an established order of worship.
---Phil_theElder on 12/8/06


Jack, if you only knew me better,
What do we do with the scripture Ep. 4; 11. In my life time I have known many Pastors, and Teachers and Evangelists and have hardly ever met a man that was all of these rolled into one. Are some of the responses here putting the qualification of all these into one man? I m only asking for some thoughts on this, I m not attacking anyone.
---tim on 12/8/06


Madison, I agree with you. A good Pastor has to study in the bible school to be equipped. Study and to make yourself approved to God. A person cant be a Pastor if he does not have a calling. First step, is to go to a bible school. The Lord takes care of the rest. a good Ptr. is one who prays and take good care of his flocks.
---ana8864 on 12/8/06


**Don't you people understand that God can't get his word out there without the help of cemetary schools (oops)**

I'll bet you thought you were witty, Tim.

And you know, you're half right.
---Jack on 12/7/06


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Don't you people understand that God can't get his word out there without the help of cemetary schools (oops) God is helpless without colleges where men learn to trust in their knowleage and grow to have confidents in themselves.
sounds so biblical doesn't it
---tim on 12/7/06


A people who will pray for him!
---willow on 12/6/06


1 John 2:27 - But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and YE NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Man has taught me little, the Holy Spirit has taught me much.
---Donna9759 on 6/21/06


The pastor at my local church is a man of humility and insight.He knows God's word inside out and is always willing to share his vision with people. he has a character that commands respect from others, is concerned enough to listen to everybody and anybody if needed.Cetainly possess leadership qualities. he has been pastor of our church for 25+ years now and our church has been growing all this time.
---Jackie on 6/20/06


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Madison, I used a Biblical example. If you choose learned men, then so be it. As for me, I don't require it.
---Linda6563 on 6/20/06


Donna: In addition to the Bible college a mile away, we have a seminary less than an hour away. Princeton University, which has a school of theology, not sure what denomination, is 45 minutes away, and the other side of Philadelphia has some theological schools.

All of the churches I have been to in this area have professors from the Bible college teaching adult Sunday School classes, leading the music, on the deacon and ordination boards.

I guess I just take that for granted.
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


Linda: The Holy Spirit ministers to Bible college students all the time. They learn how to grow through adversity and trials and see the Holy Spirit work through them in all sorts of ways as they study and participate. Also, they are required to participate in a local congregation, where they use their Spiritual gifts.

Just because a man goes to Bible college does not mean he is not annointed of God to preach. It means he is willing to become the best pastor he can be.
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


Donna: When I have discussed values with my students, I have had some interesting discussions. I teach inner city kids and their value system is based on the code of the street. In those discussions, I have challenged them to examine that value system. I do hate some of the curricular decisions that are made, especially in my school district, which was taken over by the state a few years ago.
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


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Madison--It's easy to have "high standards" for clergy when you live in a large metropolitan area as you do, and I did until lately. M.Div.s abound and doctorate degrees are not scarce, when you have a large church located in a desirable location. A small town is different. A pastor going there can expect poor or mediocre pay,he won't achieve much prominence, and the burdens of pastoring will be his to bear alone. His main qualification will be the life he lives, as is the case with my pastor.
---Donna2277 on 6/20/06


Take Peter for example. In the eyes of the "learned", he was an unlearned man....but 3,000 were saved when he preached the day of Pentecost. On top of that, he was sent to the learned folks while Paul (the learned) was sent to the unlearned. God chooses the foolish of the world to confound the wise.
---Linda6563 on 6/20/06


I have seen simple unlearned men learn more from the Holy Ghost in one hour of humility than a learned man learned in 4 years of theology. It is not just about doctrine. It is about the revelation of Jesus Christ in a people...and that comes only by the Holy Ghost.
---Linda6563 on 6/20/06


Madison--as a teacher, you are naturally for good teachers in the schools. I know, since my parents were educators at secondary and university levels with MA in speech/drama and PhD in chemistry.I feel sorry for kids now in government schools who are subjects of experimental(and failed)techniques like "new math" and "whole word" which leave them weak in basic skills with a dislike of reading. Some subjects,IMHO, like "values clarification" have NO place in govt schools.
---Donna2277 on 6/20/06


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A born again child of God. Being called by God Almighty is the only qualities they need. It is okay to go to school to learn, but all that is going to do is mess that person up. A good Pastor listens to the word of God and be the best shepherd he can be.
---Rebecca_D on 6/20/06


Donna: To earn a state certificate in PA, a teacher must graduate from college with a Bachelors or Masters in Education. Secondary teachers must also major in the subject they will teach. Education majors study a lot of psychology related to education, as well as educational theory.

Since I am a public school teacher, I only have knowledge of the public school system in PA. A lot of private schools do not require teaching certificates. I feel sorry for the children in those cases.
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


cont: In addition, colleges help a person to think critically, and challenge a person to defend their belielfs and back them up with scripture. Furthermore, Bible colleges require people majoring in Pastoral studies to take counseling courses so they are able to minister to their congregations with knowledge of counseling techniques.
---Madison1101 on 6/20/06


To be effective pastors must be sound theologians. They must have a passion for SOUL-WINNING. Always on the "watch for souls" in a congregation. Always ready to pick-up the wounded. His work should be more than mental work, but heart work, the labour of his inmost soul. He should be able to keep preaching through unremitting criticism and distrust and accusation and abandonment. It is very different to keep on preaching, Sunday after Sunday, month after month when the heart is overwhelmed.
---Fred_S. on 6/20/06


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Many Christians regularly witness at work, to neighbours and family without having any qualification except being born-again and having studied the word of God for themselves. It is called 'going into the world and preaching the gospel.' Many also do this as lay preachers on Sundays for Churches that do not have (for one reason or another) a bible trained, paid pastor. We have had a trained pastor in our church and he was truly God's gift to us but are now blessed regular with untrained lay-preachers.
---emg on 6/20/06


I couldn't trust my child's education to someone without a bachelors degree in something (at least not beyond the first few elementary grades.)I'd prefer home or private school, accountable to parents not the state. My pastor attended "Bible School", is ordained, but doesn't seem well educated at all (as I'd like) but he's the finest example of a Christian I've ever known. I've sat under learned and eloquent pastors whom I'd never want to emulate in my Christian life.
---Donna2277 on 6/19/06


cont: Just as I would not trust my children's education to a person who did not have a Bachelors in Education and a state teaching certificate, I would not trust my spiritual edification to a man with less than a Bachelors in Theology or Bible and not ordained.

I set high standards, so do the churches in my community.
---Madison1101 on 6/19/06


Anonymous: In my part of the world, no person is a pastor without at least a bachelors degree. Philadelphia Biblical University is one mile from where I live, and there is not one church in this community that has an uneducated pastor. Most have graduate degrees from seminary.

Bible colleges teach students the ins and outs of scripture and challenge pastors to be able to answer the questions that involve ordination.
---Madison1101 on 6/19/06


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Anomy: Sorry, but you missed Paul. He was a rabbi, a person educated to the STM, or M.Div or PhD level.

You also miss the point of education. It is NOT to be better, but to SERVE better.

Constantly I hear on the radio uneducated pastors blathering nonsense that a study in systematic theology would erase. Would you trust an education to a person not prepared to deal in the deep issues? Then why do the same with your soul?
---John_T on 6/19/06


I don't believe that it should be a requirement for a Pastor to have a degree. King David didn't have a degree and God called him a man after his own heart. Moses, Abraham, Jacob, Jesus, Paul the Apostle, Peter, NONE of these men had degrees EXCEPT Judas and look what he did.
Why should it be a requirement? When Pastors have one, they say they can't relate to a brokenhearted person. They teach THEOLOGY and not Spirit and Life. I say a Pastor should have an ANOINTING and a CALLING!
---Anonymous on 6/19/06


A great pastor to me is one who preaches and teaches the uncompromised truth of God's word and that he rightly divides the word. He must also truly love each one of his congregation -- I should feel at home there.
---Helen_5378 on 6/19/06


One who sacrifices his life for the sheep. Like Jesus did.
---john on 6/18/06


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#2 Secondly, a pastor should have a burning love for the lost and those that God has given him or her charge over. God will hold the pastors accountable for their congregtions. If you have a burden to fulfill the will of God in these two areas, God will enable you and give you the wisdom to do the rest.
---Debbie on 6/18/06


#1 Any man or woman who is called to pastor, first must be in tune with the voice of God. They have to be in total agreement with God in every area. They should know the Word of God and give out the whole counsel of God. Our responsibility is to God and then then the flock He has put in our care. God is not interested in their flesh but in their Spirit man. God wants His children grow and the Word is the food for growth.
---Debbie on 6/18/06


Humility and a heart for God.
---Linda6563 on 6/18/06


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