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Are Figurines Graven Images

I've been lurking here for a while, and i'm especially convicted by the discussions about graven images. I feel I should get rid of my photo collection and any figurines or bric-a-brac, as these are all graven images. Any advice?

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I have figurines, a whole collection of them. I certainly don't worship them. They are animals.
---shira on 5/18/08

I would add that I would not condemn those who go to those extremes. If you do not fully understand what an idol is, then you are better off erring on the side of caution. I would also suggest not rubbing buddha statues for luck or putting your hopes in lucky rabbits feet.
---lorra8574 on 5/21/07

Lorra, yes they had brazen bulls etc in Solomons temple...but at that time the blood of the bulls and other animals covered their sins and moved them forward to the cross. The "snake on a pole" is something that the people would be able to understand as all they hed ever seen to that time was graven image gods and the like. the difference is that the rod of Aaron was devinely inspired and not something of mans hand.
---MARK_N on 5/21/07

I don't like the scary pictures that suppose to be Christ that are sold in the stores. Nobody actually know what Christ looks like today. They are an artist's idea of what Christ looked like. But if someone like those type things I don't see anything wrong it. Many churches have those pictures in them. Pictures of all type christian drawings. We wear crosses around our necks, as jewlery. Why not have them in our homes in the form of figurines and other bric-a-brac? We should not pray to them, however.
---Robyn on 5/21/07

Only if you worship them. Remember that when God gave this commandment, it was common for pagans to manufacture their own gods to worship, and some looked very strange (see Egyptian mythology). If you read more of the OT, you will note that God commanded some images to be made - note the Arc of the Covenant and the snake on the pole (during the exodus), read also the incredible art in King Solomon's Temple.
---lorra8574 on 5/21/07

P2 There is a difference between art (whether for religious or decoratorive purposes) and idols which were believed to be gods in and of themselves. A good example of what is forbidden is the golden calf incident in Exodus 32.

Of course some take this commandment to the extreme. Some Christian denominations will not even allow photos for passports or driver's licenses.
---lorra8574 on 5/21/07

The Bible says don't make unto yourself a graven image to "bow" yourself down to. In other words don't make an image of anything and worship it as a God. That is the sin. Giving reverence to an object and worshiping it as if it is God. Whatnots,photos, and brick-a-brack are just decoration unless you worship them. Are you truely convicted or do you think you should be? Pray about it and rest in the Lord.
---Darlene_1 on 5/21/07

It seems that, if I understand most of these replies right, it's ok to have reproductions of Rodin's THE KISS, or the VENUS DE MILO, or other pagan art, but not statues with Christian themes such as the Pieta, a crucifix, or the like.

Does this make sense?
---Jack on 6/29/06

By taking verses out of context, I could make you believe in anything your heart desires, or your itching ears want to hear. The world is full of religions because of this. I could make you believe that having statues is ok and I could make you believe that statues are bad. Its written that if you do something or have something that will make your brother, or sister, fall, its best not to have it. Pray and allow the Holy Spirit to guide you.
---Steve on 6/28/06

Debbie, if you kneel by your bed to say your prayers, are you worshipping your bed?
---Jack on 6/28/06

First of all you need to figure out whom convicted you over these items. Was it God Almighty or someone on these blogs? If it was God, then by all means get rid of them, if it was people from this blog, as you stated then don't worry about it. My guess is that your conviction is from people whom think it is wrong to have such items in the home, because you said your convicted by the discussions that people had about graven images.
---Rebecca_D on 6/28/06

Are you bowing in front of the object, crossing yourself before the statue, etc.? That is a form of worship, so no bowing before statues (even at church!). I have seen this at catholic mass before, where members bow before statues of Mary and cross themselves or light candles at her statue. That is wrong.
---Debbie on 6/28/06

Darline, I know of nobody who prays to anything visible, and what's more you don't either.

You just THINK they do, but you are mistaken.
---Jack on 6/27/06

Consider coins and paper money and their implications.

Worship of money and physical possessions has always been a vice but I don't think you want to get rid of yours, it is carrying ideas to illogical extremes that gets your theology in trouble.
---notlaw99 on 6/27/06

Jack, I would think as long as it is decoration not adoration its ok. The moment they are viewed as part of ones religious practices it is wrong. Faith demands no visible objects to pray to. Once faith attaches to a temporal object it is no longer pure faith and has lost it's major component, believing in Christ without seeing Christ.
---Darlene_1 on 6/27/06

2/... By the way figurines and bric-a-brac type statues etc. are not graven images... I've got heaps of those and use them to decorate my house. Graven images are those of Jesus, Mary, Buddha etc. As far as getting rid of a photo collection I would have to be sure that God wanted me to do that --- would depend what type of pictures are in the albums.
---Helen_5378 on 6/27/06

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Sallemae - My advice is to pray about it and following the leading of the Holy Spirit. As soon as I got born-again 8 years ago, I just knew to get rid of everything in my house that was idols and so I did it right there and then.
---Helen_5378 on 6/27/06

2..(except that we DO know what dolphins and horses look like). God knows what is in the individual's heart and if there is the slightest hint of any object being worshipped He will be angry and deal with you. I personally have some pictures of birds, beautiful creations of God, which I really like but it is God their creator that I worship.
---emg on 6/27/06

1. The commandment is telling us not to make anything with the intention of worshipping it because God is the only one worthy of our worship. The things themselves are just 'things'. Only the owner of these things knows if they are objects of worship. Why anyone would want a picture or statue of Mary is beyond me but if it is just a picture/ornament of someone's idea of what she looked like I see that as no different from an ornament of a dolphin or a horse etc.
---emg on 6/27/06

There is nothing inherently wrong with your collections, unless you place them ahead of the God in importance. You are the only one who can say if your photo collections and figurines are actually disrupting your relationship with the Lord. Give them up if you feel you must. But I'd suggest that if some are photos of family members, don't destroy them. Give them to someone in the family so they won't be lost to later generations.
---Donna2277 on 6/27/06

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One of the seeds fell on thorny ground and chocked the seed, or word. The cares of this life and it's possessions can become a god if we aren't careful. If so; better to get rid of it than to let it rob you of your salvation. Just as they crowned our Lord with thorns before crucifying him some of us may be crowning him with the thorns, or cares of this life. God is the head of Christ. I wouldn't want to make it this world or it's pleasures in my life.
---Shari on 6/26/06

I have wondered the same thing. With all my many knicknacks and other collectables, it can easily cause me to be more interested in earthly things than God and his word. I need to make sure I love God more than any thing or anyone.
---Creamcup on 6/26/06

So, it IS ok to have a cross, crucifix, statue of the Virgin Mary--as long as it's not an object of worship.

Do I understand you all correctly?
---Jack on 6/26/06

The test is simple. Are they objects of worship?

Psalms 97:7, "Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods."
---Bruce5656 on 6/26/06

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