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God's Will To Be Sick

Should we ask God to heal us if we are sick or should we just say it must be God's will for me to be sick?

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Daphne, thank you so much for your concern. However, I boast only in Christ and the Cross. In both of those, you can not only find God's ultimate expression of love for man in that sacrifice but also His ultimate will for man in that resurrection.
---Linda6563 on 4/24/08


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---Emcee on 6/27/07


Dory, I very much did not want to answer to you or Darline. I understand where you are coming from. I was going to answer on the one blog that Elder was answering and getting hammered on but knew if I did I would have to answer to you and Darline. I am with brother Elder on all his points. He is very well versed on God's word and knows Truth very well. I trust his knowledge on the word of God. I am sorry I had to answer to you here.
---Lupe2618 on 7/10/06


Lupe ... actually "watch-dog" is quite a complimentary description to give someone.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/10/06


2. I will put one passage that you have read many times and it is for Rickey. "Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; "but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven." Bless you Dory,
---Lupe2618 on 7/10/06




Dory, I am with brother Elder on all his points. He is very well versed on God's word and knows Truth very well. He didn't need my help at all.
---Lupe2618 on 7/10/06


Lupe, LOL! Oh dear, you know me too well. I'm sorry if the word "watch-dog" insulted you. A watch-dog is an overseer or someone who watches over the doings of others. I thought you once said you feel that is your ministry to the church. My apologies if I got it wrong. You're right! You and I have been over this too many times in the past. I was trying to stay out of it, I really was! But I'm afraid my lack of resistance got the best of me. :)
---DoryLory on 7/10/06


DoryLory, The delusion in WoF is a strong one - because it is man centered, which is our more natural track. It was particularly difficult when I saw the truth because I was in leadership, specifically I was the worship team leader, the choir director, I led in the singles and women's ministries, and taught at their "Christian School". However, what I gave up for the true Gospel far outweighs any perks or privileges I had in "leadership" within a lie.
---daphn8897 on 7/9/06


How can a person repent of something they love doing? How can he see a Christ that loves him when he is slave to sin? How can he even see Christ when he has emnity agianst God and his master is the prince of the air? How can he even believe unless faith is given to him to believe? How can he see and hear when God gives the ear to hear and the eye to see? Faith and repentance are divine gifts and are wrought in the soul through the regeneratin work of the Holy Spirit.
---Lupe2618 on 7/9/06


3. Phillippians 1:29, clearly states, For it has been "granted to you" that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in Him but also suffer for His sake. In Acts 2:38, Peter sure is calling for those to repent and the ones that will answer and repent are the ones God has granted that repentance in order for them to be forgiven of their sins. Once that is granted they will be forgiven and they will love Christ.
---Lupe2618 on 7/9/06




2. Acts 5:31 clearly states, "God exalted Him(Christ)at His right Hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness of sins" God in this passage exalted Christ to not only be at His right hand as Leader and Savior, but was to give repentance for Israel's sin. Acts 11:18, clearly states, When they heard this they were silenced. And they glorified God, saying, "Then to the Gentiles also 'God has granted repentance unto life."
---Lupe2618 on 7/9/06


Exzucuh, "God cannot make you repent and be Baptized." with 2 Timothy 2:25,26, "..God may perhaps "grant" that they will repent and come to know the truth, and they may escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will." in this passage God tells us that He grants repentance so that they can come to know the truth.
---Lupe2618 on 7/9/06


I might be rubbing shoulders with them one day. I hope I am Dory, and I will give account to everything I do. "I am not a watch-dog for the church," especially a dog. I am human and a Christians with principles, that believes in a God that is also "Lord," that still rules and will always rule. He is my Lord and my salvation. And I owe everything to Him, because without Him I am nothing.
---Lupe2618 on 7/9/06


Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
God can't make you repent and be baptized Lupe, if it was the way you say there would be no need of jesus God would save us by force and make us be perfect. Salvation is by choice yours and mine .
---Exzucuh on 7/8/06


3. In his (Rickey's)concept, man has authority over God's will. Because it is his own will he is after. We are never to and I mean never suppose to follow our will, it is God's will, we are after. His concept is from Word Faith. They have trashed the "essentials of the Christian Faith" to garbage. It is not about me or you, it is about God. The God we know. If I am wrong, then I will have to answer to God for speaking in His behalf. If I am wrong then I will pay the price for doing that.
---Lupe2618 on 7/8/06


2. to question are speak against another brother. But we do have a right to speak about the Truth. I have written and put down all I said from Scripture and if there is one thing wrong with any passage I put down, you tell me which ones they are and I will correct them. This isn't about you. It isn't about me either Dory. It is about the way we look at our Lord and at ourselves as followers of Christ. As to how we read Scripture.
---Lupe2618 on 7/8/06


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Dory, I knew you would say that because I know you follow the Word faith. I have had this discussion with you before. I know you don't answer many questions but if it concerns them you do. So it did not surprise me you did, and I so did not want to answer you. I still have to speak for God's Word which has been rippen apart by them. You don't believe it becuase you have close connections with them. I understand that. If someone questions their doctrines I know people will right away say, we have no right
---Lupe2618 on 7/8/06


Lupe, you are saying Rickey said things he did not say. You are saying Word of faith teaches this and Word of faith teaches that but you are only quoting partial truths. A partial truth is not a truth ... it's confusion. It seems to me, that someone who prides himself on being a watch-dog in the church, should get his facts together before he goes around insulting and offending the very people he will someday be rubbing shoulders with in heaven.
---DoryLory on 7/8/06


Lupe, no one is saying we are higher than God or are in control of everything. Again, God is Omniscient, Omnipotent, & Omnipresent, but He has given us authority.
The areas I refer to have to do with our own will. He can't force to get healed, saved, delivered, or to layhold on any of His promises. He has set it up His ownself not to override our will. No one is knocking His will for our lives. He is still our Lord, but has given us some rights/promises as His kids.
---Rickey on 7/8/06


3. that is precisely the reason we are Christians, because we depend on His will for our lives. We ask Him to come into our hearts so that He can work in our lives to be the people He wants us to be. The Word Faith movement has done a lot of damage in the doctrines of faith in God. Man can be his own little gods. I am sorry to say that and please forgive me because I care about our relationship as friends, but God's Word is Truth, and we as Christians have to say something.
---Lupe2618 on 7/8/06


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2, God explicitly states in Romans 9:16, "So it depends not upon man's will or exertion, but upon God's mercy." it has nothing to do with what we want or will, but what God wants and wills. I don't see how anyone can depend on God and believe they have to do their own will because God will not interfere. Many Scriptures show the Omniscience of God His Authority over creation. What would we need Christ for if it depended on us? Our whole lives are dependent upon Christ.
---Lupe2618 on 7/8/06


Dory, I have put down enough Truth for everyone to see who God is. I explained it from His omnipotence to His Providences, to His character. It is not hard to know or does it take a great deal to see who is ruling. It is God. No where does Scripture teach man is ruling and God is staying still. He is always working in the life's of every believer. Now you say Rickey is right on all he wrote, then to me you are wrong too. I love you and really care for you Dory.
---Lupe2618 on 7/8/06


Pt1
Daphne, you can pray for me all you want, I've already been there, done that. For several years after my husband, Bob, and I were saved we were growing together in the Lord. Then a certain pastor said something to Bob that caused him to question what we had learned. The next thing I knew, Bob was telling me that I was believing a false gospel that wasn't ever going to help me. This caused me to stumble a little because I couldn't just let go of everything I had learned.
---DoryLory on 7/7/06


Pt2
You see, the difference between Bob & I, was that I hadn't just believed what I heard. I had searched the scriptures for myself & unless it lined up with the Word of God, I would not believe it. Because of this, I got grounded ... I saw it for myself in the Word. But I'd never put it to test.

But still being a new Christian at the time, I didn't want to believe a false gospel so I constantly cried out to God to show me the truth. After a while, I went into confusion & eventually depression.
---DoryLory on 7/7/06


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Pt3
Finally in my despair, God spoke to my heart and said, "I haven't corrected you because you aren't in the wrong." I was then able to stand on the Word and was soon delivered from the depression. After that, when Bob tried to attack my faith, I was able to stand up to him and say, no, it isn't a false gospel. (And guess who's faith turned back after that?) So pray away all you want, Daphne, but I really think you should put your prayer energy towards something more constructive.
---DoryLory on 7/7/06


DoryLory, Of course you believe everything Ricky has stated is true. You're both believing the same lie. And "living according to this teaching for well over 20 years" doesn't make it good doctrine. I was in leadership in a WoF church for years... then God opened my eyes to the lies. I'm praying He breaks through to you as well.
---daphn8897 on 7/7/06


Lupe, your last post on 7/6/06 which begins: "Rickey, you are going to have a big problem in your Christian walk" is offensive and based on presumption. I agree with everything Rickey has stated. His statements are based on the Word of God, nothing is out of order. I've been living according to this teaching for well over 20 years and I know that I know that I know that it's God's Word.
---DoryLory on 7/7/06


God CHOOSES not to do some things. To say He "cannot", is to say that there is a power greater than HE.
---Donna2277 on 7/6/06


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I never said we could change His nature. He is the Lord & He doesn't change. My point from the beginning is that it's His desire for all to be healed. He never puts sickness on folks. He has made a covenant to do what His word says He will do.(Jeremiah 1:12; Isaiah 55:11)
---Rickey on 7/6/06


Lupe what I said before is true. God cannot superceed our will.
1. He can't force anyone to get saved.
2. It's His will for all to be healed, but He can't force someone to or override their will.
3. He has made a covenant to do what His word says He will do.[Jeremiah 1:12; Isaiah 55:11]
4. God is soveriegn, BUT NOT IN CONTROL OF EVERYONE. HE cannot override our will.
5. Did He force you to get saved? No.
6. Same with healing. He cannot force you to get healed. It all rides on your faith.
---Rickey on 7/6/06


2. Truth can. So long as I pray for God to help each and everyone out there, I know that God will work His providence in the life's of many. Hope and pray that you see this awesome Nature and Character of God. We cannot change God's nature to fit our thinking. He remains the same always. Blessings to you brother
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


Rickey, you are going to have a big problem in your Christian walk. You will not be able to be assured that He can answer prayer. You will not be sure if you will be a Christian for long. You will not be sure that God can defeat the enemy. You will not be sure about the love you have for Him, because He might leave you if you fail. You are throwing away everything God wants to give you as a Christian and your hope is really not a hope. I feel bad when I hear your words because I cannot change you.
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


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8."But as for you, you meant evil aginst me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, (the reason given here is that the providence of God was working through their sin) to save many people alive" Genesis 50:20.
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


7. Yet the causal power we exert is secondary. God's sovereign providence stand over and above our actions. He works out His will through the actions of human wills, without violating the freedom of those human wills. The clearest example of concurrence that we find in Scripture is in the case of Hoseph and his brothers. Though Joseph's brothers incurred true guilt through their treachery against him, the providence of God was working even through their sin. Joseph said to his brothers,
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


6. It is merely a word we use to describe mathematical possibilities. But chance itself has no power because it has no being. Chance is not an entity that can influence reality, Chance is not a thing it is nothing. There is an aspect of Providence call "concurrence." Concurrence refers to the coterminous actions of God and human beings. Here is something I believe can show what I am talking about. We are creatures with a will of our own. We make things happen.
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


5. fate, or luck. The key to this difference is found in the personal character of God. Fortune is blind while God is all seeing. Fate is impersonal while God is a Father, who cares for us. Luck is dumb while God can speak. There is no blind, impersonal forces at work in human history. All is brought to pass by the invisible hand of Providence. There are no chance events. Indeed, there is no such things as chance. Chance does not exist.
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


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4. The Universe can neither exist nor operate by its own power. God upholds all things by His power. "It is in Him that we live, and move, and have our being" Nothing ever happens beyond the scope of His sovereign providential government. He makes the rain to fall and the sun to shine, He raises up kingdoms and brings them down. He numbers the hairs on our head and the days of our life. There is for Christians a crucial difference between the providence of God and fortune,
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


3. next I will go to the "Providence" of God. The root meaning of the word providence is "to see in advance or beforehand," or "to provide for." As such, the word fails to convey the deep meaning of the doctrine of Providence. The doctrine signifies far more than that God is a spectator of human events. What God creates, He also sustains. The Universe is not only dependent upon God for its origin, it depends upon God for its continuity of existence.
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


2. He cannot be eternal and created. He cannot act against His Nature. He cannot be God and not be God at the same time, and in the same respect. What Omnipotence means is that God holds all power over His creation. No part of creation stands outside the scope of His Sovereign control. In the case of the rock, He would be creating something over which He had no power. He would be destroying His own Omnipotence, and that is why I said God cannot stop being God: He cannot "Not" be God.
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


Rickey, I am going to touch on the Omnipotence of God for a minute. The dilemma with the rock was a good beginning for what I am going to say. That is called "false dilemma" It is false becuase it is erected on a false premise. It assumes that "Omnipotence" means that God can do anything. Yet, as a theological term, omnipotence does not mean that God can do anything. The Bible indicates several things that God cannot do. He cannot lie (Hebrews 6:18). He cannot die. (He is Eternal)
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


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2. some say it in losing salvation, others in the word movement on how they have the power of the force, and so on. Man in control all the time and God is not Lord of their lives. He is the Savior but never Lord. I only hope that you will just look at Scripture a little closer and allow "God" and I mean God, to help you discern His word better. let me say too that I am not a pastor or reverand, just another Christian trying to help another brother.
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


Rickey, I hoped God would help me explain things to you and others about Him, but my answers are the best I can do. I am not surprised at your words about God because since I have been on line my answers most of the time have come towards the dependency on Christ. I have heard so many answer almost like you but not as bold as you about God. Many say it in a different way, but nevertheless it comes down to the same understanding of God and man. Some say it in saving themselves,
---Lupe2618 on 7/6/06


Ricky, If God is not in control, then Jesus wouldn't have needed to die on the cross - because we would eventually figure out for ourselves, how to save ourselves. If God isn't in control, He isn't pefect, and therefore cannot demand it from us, hence making the 10 commandments arbitrary meaningless rules. If the 10 commandments are meaningless, then so is the cross. Why would I serve a god who cannot or won't back up his word/commands with power? Your god has no powerbecause he isn't in control.
---daphn8897 on 7/6/06


Ricky... there you go... same old stuff. And, exactly what do you think in means to rule and reign over? Man is limited in his ability to rule/control - God is not. You saying God cannot do something doesn't mean it is true. God can anything He pleases. You so limit Him and you are wrong. God is God - if the god you worship isn't in control, then he is weak and useless - he isn't God.
---daphn8897 on 7/6/06


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Sovereign means to reign or rule over. God is over all, but not in control of all. It's His will for none to perish. No one could force Him or tell Him to save, it's His will.
But, He cannot force anyone to except His will for them to be saved. Same with healing, finances, etc.
---Rickey on 7/6/06


If His word doesn't say it He can't do it.
He was bound Himself to His word. If His word promises healing, He must perform it.
He can't contradict His word, because(John 1:1)
---Rickey on 7/6/06


He will fight with us, but not for us. He has already done all He is going to do. Meaning, He gave His Son Who bore our griefs and carried our sorrows. Griefs and sorrows both refer to internal and external sicknesses. Jesus has already done it. Now it time for us to act on it.
---Rickey on 7/6/06


Some aren't healed because they aren't willing to fight for there healing.(1Timothy 6:12)We have to fight the good fight of faith with our mouth.(Proverbs 18:21; Job 22:28; Mark 11:23) Jesus did in Luke 4. He just left us an example of what to do when the enemy comes against you with sickness or any weapon. GOD ISN'T GONNA FIGHT OUR FIGHT FOR US.
---Rickey on 7/6/06


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From the beginning He never wanted anyone to die. GOD CANNOT HEAL EVERYONE, BUT HE WANTS EVERYONE HEALED. The #1 reason for folks not getting healed is Hosea 4:6, not knowing it's His will for all to be healed. If it's not, then He did know good in putting 1Peter 2:24 in the bible. That verse tells us WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED!. WE have already been healed, Praise God! By Jesus' stripe we WERE ALL HEALED OVER 2000YRS. AGO. We just have to appropriate His promise by faith.
---Rickey on 7/6/06


God's soveriegnty cannot superceed our will. He wants all to be saved, but cannot force us to. His sovereignty let's us know we can't control Him in the sense of His Lordship, but in the since of Him superceeding our will, He can't. We have the free-will to except His promises or not. We can get saved or choose to go to hell, He can't stop us from choosing. I'm not putting man above God, but showing the way He has bound Himself to His word & given us a free-will.
---Rickey on 7/6/06


My point in saying "He cannot" is because it's scriptural. He cannot lie. He cannot save a person who isn't will to be saved.
---Rickey on 7/6/06


Interesting... I was just re-reading the question. I think the answer is kind of both. If we are sick, yes, we should ask for God to heal us. And, we should also know that our every circumstance is under His control. The knowing things are under His control does not negate the need for us to ask. He knows what He will do, we don't.
---daphn8897 on 7/5/06


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Thank you Lupe, for unpacking these truths. God does as He pleases. Everything that happens is ultimately for His glory. He is totally/completely in control. Many assume that because we are created in His image, He is as limited as we. However, being the "in the image of" isn't the same as being the original. A painting of the sky is far more limited than the sky itself, being one, possibly two dimensions at best. The only man more than a mere image is Jesus, and that's because He is God.
---daphn8897 on 7/5/06


4. we find out that Peter was speaking to the beloveth, the believers and so God didn't want any to parish. We understand this because God explicitly states, "I do, all that I please" "I do all my pleasure" Many times God explicitly states who He is and what He does. So any implication to the effect that He is willing and that He cannot is wrong, no matter the reasons given. That is why I said, to learn who God is first.
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


3. 6. God's sovereignty doesn't supercedes our will. "That is why you have the wrong God." I never heard that statement made by anyone. I know a few think about it but are not so bold to say what you said. You might as well take Sovereignty out of you statement, because Sovereign for God is Master and controller of all. Not one thing is outside of His sovereign will, because if there is one molecule working outside of Him, then He is not Sovereign so He is not God.
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


2. 3. God has bound Himself to His word. If you mean His word is truth. Yes it is.
4. If His word doesn't say it, He can't do it. I don't know of anything that God cannot do. With the exception of contradicting. He never contradicts Himself.
5. Not knownly you are exalting others, the God you formed in your mind is not Sovereign. He is but a servant, only doing what we and Satan allow Him to do.
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


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Taking the numbers you stated.
1. Sickness comes through many ways, Christ mentioned the blind man was blind because of God, for a purpose. Sickness comes through sin. comes through evil, comes through the curse of death.
2. God set the curse towards all. Death, sickness. If God willed that everyone was to be healed, He is Omnipotent, and does all that pleases Him. No one would die and death would be no more. But that time has not come yet. So God does not will that yet.
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


4. we find out that Peter was speaking to the beloveth, the believers and so God didn't want any to parish. We understand this because God explicitly states, "I do, all that I please" "I do all my pleasure" Many times God explicitly states who He is and what He does. So any implication to the effect that He is willing and that He cannot is wrong, no matter the reasons given. That is why I said, to learn who God is first.
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


3. that Abraham had true faith. Yet we know by studying Scripture that God because of His Nature, has stated explicitly that He is Omniscient. Knowing all. The same can be said about what you ask. Take 2 Peter 3:9, that was quoted on another blog, concerning Peter implying in verse 9, "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance." The implication seems to be that God doesn't want no one to parish. After careful study, and reading the whole context,
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


2. There are a few principles of interpretation that are basic for all sound study of the Bible. The "implicit" must alway be interpreted in light of the Explicit: Never the other way around. That is, if a particular text seems to imply something, we should not accept the implication as correct if it goes against something explicitly stated elsewhere in Scripture. Here is an example: the story of Abraham offering Isaac on Mount Moriah might suggest that God "didn't" know
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


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Rickey, I believe you questions are very good and legitemate. I also had trouble with passages because of the lack of knowledge of who God is. It is a concept that has to be understood in its entirety. That was my problem, in not understanding the Character, Attributes and most of all the Nature of God. When one has those in his mind correctly, most of the problems can be resolved. I found that to be the most helpful lessons for me.
---Lupe2618 on 7/4/06


I just have another question though.
Why do so many folks debate about healing?
Why do some believe that God puts sickness on folk to teach them something or to get glory from it?
Why, according to scripture, do you believe what you believe?
---Rickey on 7/3/06


daph & Lupe, all I am saying is that:
1. God doesn't put sickness on anyone
2. It is God's perfect will for all to be healed
3. God has bound Himself to His word
4. If His word doesn't say it, He can't do it
5. I'm not exalting any person or being above God
6. God's sovereignty doesn't allow Him to superceed our will(to be healed, saved, etc)
7. satan is the author of sickness(John 10:10)
---Rickey on 7/3/06


Daphn, your answer to Richey is what I was thinking. Every word you put down is so true. Satan has been put on the throne of God and he is ruling, and so they think. A creative being, not even able to read our minds. While a Sovereign God has been made an impotent God, with no power whatsoever. Waiting and hoping that man will someone listen to Him. He is not on the throne. He is made a servant instead of The King.
---Lupe2618 on 7/3/06


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Also, Sometimes our trials are a result of our own actions. If I slam a hammer down on my thumb, it's going to hurt. Through Jesus, we are spared the ultimate consequence. However, often, though tempered by His mercy and grace, we suffer with consequences in this life. I am so glad that this life is but a temporary blip on the vastness of His eternity. If we are in Christ, any suffering (whether as the rain or as a consequence of actions) in this life is light and momentary.
---daphn8897 on 7/3/06


Daphne--I agree. Once, when I was much younger in years and in the faith, I tried to adopt the view Ricky espouses. But studying the WHOLE of Scripture, I couldn't see it. Many "well chosen" verses they use are not at all in context.(e.g. III John 2). I now request, but do not demand anything, from God,not even answers to all my "why" questions. If God NEVER did another thing but reconcile me to Himself through the blood of Jesus, I would still consider myself blessed beyond measure.
---Donna2277 on 7/3/06


It is so much easier to "blame" satan than to look to God for His answer. I don't believe sickness is a "punishment" from God, but it is a part of living in a fallen world. His word says it rains on the just and unjust alike... So, do we worship Him in the midst of our trial? or, do we complain and blame Him or Satan for it? God's glory is the only true reason for our existence... let us walk accordingly, regardless of our temporary circumstance.
---daphn8897 on 7/3/06


Mary, I also know that God can use trials of any kind to cause us to be His witnesses. When we walk through difficulties (whatever they may be), with joy, with peace, without blaming, and without complaining... then we are different from the world. Whether or not we are physically healed really isn't the issue as much as Who we turn to and choose to glorify while going through the process.
---daphn8897 on 7/3/06


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Ricky, Once again you spew rhetoric and heresy. You try to limit God by satan. God is limitless and more powerful that satan could ever hope to be, especially in that satan is just a created being. There is NOTHING satan can do without God's approval. Have you not read Job? The Jesus/God you are "selling" is impotent, weak, and bound by satan and man's whims. I would much rather serve the God/Jesus of the Bible than who/what you apparently are serving.
---daphn8897 on 7/3/06


daphn8897...I totally agree. I think God uses sickness to achieve his ultimate goal. Sickness can be God's punishment for sins, or his way of correcting sins (same thing) or his way of reaching someone who could not be reached any other way.
---mary on 7/3/06


The suffering that Jesus mentioned was suffering for the sake of the gospel. God doesn't put sickness on us. God sent the Holy Spirit to heal us of sin.(John 16:7-11)
It isn't impossible for a believer to live a life without sinning. Sickness is from satan, don't put God in his class.
---Rickey on 7/3/06


It is interesting that folks assume our being healed is usually to be the physical. What parent, who having a child with cancer, would not do whatever it takes to make that child well, including chemotherapy (which is basically poisen)? Why do we think that God wouldn't use illness to cure us of a much greater ill... sin? And, why are we so afaid to admit there is suffering in the Christian walk - Jesus promised as much. He NEVER promised us this life would be painless, on the contrary...
---daphn8897 on 7/3/06


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2Ki 6:5 tells us of an axehead that came off flew into the river, it was borrowed and irreplaceble, Elisha cut a branch and thew it in the water and the axehead did swim. He told the man who lost it to take it up again.
If you have lost your health and it looks impossible to regain it, get a hold of the branch that grew out of Jesse's roots Isaiah 11:1 his name is Jesus, he can make the axehead swim for you. He was the tool of Elisha and he can be your tool, Just be healed in the name of Jesus.
---exzucuh on 7/2/06


It's not God's will for you to be sick, he went to all the trouble of having his Son die for you so by his stripes you could be healed. It is the Judgement of the Law that brings sickness It is the Grace that was paid for by Christ that looses you from the condemnation of the Law. No one was ever healed by the Law all healings are by Grace though Faith in the name of Jesus. who's report will you believe.
---exzucuh on 7/2/06


If someone is sick, we as Christians should pray for them. We would be moved by the Spirit with love for our neighbor and want his/her recoverey. Yet we are call when speaking to God, for His will in our lives. We do that because we know that God knows what is best for all concern. Our concern is the person but God's is the whole of humanity. It also teaches us to be dependent upon Him for our lives. God is always right in His decision whether we see it or not.
---Lupe2618 on 7/2/06


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