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Can't Locate A Sabbath Church

If we agree with the Saturday sabbath but can't find a church we are happy with that worships on Saturday, do we worship at a Sunday church or stick with a Saturday church? Forsake 9 commandments for one, or vice versa?

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The Early Church was entirly Jewish so why tell a Jew to keep the Sabbath? The first gentile converts were all God Fearers who meet with the Jews in the Synagogoue but who had not been circumsiced. So why tell these gentiles who were already keeping sabbath to keep a day they already did?

The big fight in the early church was should gentiles be circumcised. But we read of no fight about which day was sabbath. Why?
---Samuel on 1/12/10


Lee: "There is virtually NOTHING in the New Testament that tells us to observe any day as holy and neither did the early church teach Sabbath keeping - something viewed as optional for the believer."

And yet for the first 500 years of the Christian church most Christians kept the Sabbath. In India they did so till the 1540's when Riveria arrived and the very early 1600's in Ethiopia.
---djconklin on 1/12/10


I understand the 10 commandments to be commandments of GOD. The Messiah said anyone who teaches the breaking of the least of the commandments shall be cursed, and anyone who teaches the keeping of the least of the commandments shall be blessed!!
---Ed on 1/11/10


steveng "There is virtually NOTHING in the New Testament that tells us to observe any day as holy and neither did the early church teach Sabbath keeping - something viewed as optional for the believer."

//Being optional for the other nine commandments, also?

So you admit to it!

Clearly Scripture (Romans 14:5-6a) as well as the teachings of the early church confirm that the observance of any day is an optional thing.

As to Jerry's comment, it has been made several times before making me wonder what his problem really is. There is an abundance of scripture that speak against sexual impurity and he should know that if he has even read anything in the New Testament.




---Lee1538 on 1/11/10


Lee1538: "Were you born on a farm and had these problems?"

That's a low blow for a person claiming to be christian.
---Steveng on 1/11/10




Lee1538: "There is virtually NOTHING in the New Testament that tells us to observe any day as holy and neither did the early church teach Sabbath keeping - something viewed as optional for the believer."

Being optional for the other nine commandments, also?
---Steveng on 1/11/10


Susan - the antagonism among Jews and Gentiles was very deep, even among those who were Christians.

Consider the conflict Paul had with Peter at Antioch, see Galatians 2

For before certain men came from James, he (Peter) was eating with the Gentiles, but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party.... But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews? ...we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ,... because by works of the law no one will be justified.
---Lee1538 on 1/11/10


Susan //Yahushua (Jesus) did support Sabbath when he talked about the future (Matt 24:40).

Even a casual reading of the New Testament should reveal to you that the chief enemies of Jesus were the Sabbath keeping and law promoting Pharisees & Sadducees who eventually caused His crucification.

The keeping of the Sabbath was the means by which they judged Jesus even saying that He was possessed by a demon.

There is virtually NOTHING in the New Testament that tells us to observe any day as holy and neither did the early church teach Sabbath keeping - something viewed as optional for the believer.
---Lee1538 on 1/11/10


Susan //Prompting of the Spirit? Could be the decision of disciples that the believing gentiles are welcomed in synagogues every Sabbath day to learn about Moses' Law (Acts 15:20,21).

That Gentiles were to learn of the law from non-Christians at the Jewish synagogues is truly without merit considering the hatred Jews had for Gentiles.

The only Gentiles welcomed into the synagogues were those who converted to Judaism and they had to submit to physical circumcision by the Rabbi.

There was no command of Gentiles to learn from anyone outside His church which had its own means of teaching converts.
---Lee1538 on 1/11/10


Susan -Rom 14:5 is talking about fasting in context, not Sabbath.

You need to read again that verse as it has nothing to do with fasting but with the observance of a day.

Romans 15:5-6a One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord.

And if you were to study the writings of the early church as done by Adventist scholars, you would also find that the early Gentile church did not teach Sabbath observance.

The early church would not have survived if it has been viewed simply as another sect of Judaism.

Read the history otherwise you will remain ignorant.
---Lee1538 on 1/11/10




Jerry //For the same reason He failed to mention the prohibition against beastiality.

Were you born on a farm and had these problems?

Anyone can see that scripture has much to say against sexual misconduct -a moral issue, however, the observance of a day of the week is more liken to a ceremonial law.

Romans 2:14 tells us that even the Gentiles who had not the law satisfied the requirements of the law simply by following their conscience. But they did not observe the Sabbath - something that only the Jews observed.

For you own health, try to leave the animals alone otherwise you could contact some very bad diseases.
---Lee1538 on 1/11/10


hi Lee1538,

Yahushua (Jesus) did support Sabbath when he talked about the future (Matt 24:40).

Rom 14:5 is talking about fasting in context, not Sabbath.

Prompting of the Spirit? Could be the decision of disciples that the believing gentiles are welcomed in synagogues every Sabbath day to learn about Moses' Law (Acts 15:20,21).

Col 2:16 could be saying not to let Pharisees or Jews stop you from observing Sabbath day or clean foods, and to let only body of Messiah judge you (e.g. those in the faith of the Son).
---Susan on 1/11/10


Lee: "Then why did the Holy Spirit pen the verse in Romans 14:5 that one may esteem one day as holy over others or none at all? "

What you "esteem" has nothing at all to do with what God Himself made holy. It is still the Sabbath, whether you "esteem" it or not.

"If keeping the Sabbath was important then why did the Holy Spirit fail to mention it anywhere in the New Testament that one should observe it?"

For the same reason He failed to mention the prohibition against beastiality. Everybody knew it, and they lived by the commands of the Holy Scripture - something you should do.
---jerry6593 on 1/11/10


Lee: "And why did the Spirit pen Colossians 2:16 that we are not to judge others on the observance of a Sabath [sic]or new moon or what we eat?"

Because, as you well know, the verse refers to "circumcision" (v. 11), "handwriting of ordinances" (v. 14), meat and drink offered to idols and feast day observances (v. 16), and "the commandments and doctrines of men" (v. 22) - none of which appertain to the Ten Commandments. In fact,

Col 2:20-22 .. as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not, taste not, handle not, Which all are to perish with the using,) after the commandments and doctrines of men?

Sunday (unlike Sabbath) sacredness is a commandment of men!
---jerry6593 on 1/11/10


Lee1538: "If keeping the Sabbath was important then why did the Holy Spirit fail to mention it anywhere in the New Testament that one should observe it?"

As I wrote you in another blog, Jesus and the apostles set the example like a parent should set an example in the things they do not necessarily in what they say. Jesus never condoned the Sabbath. The Sabbath will be establish in the new Earth.

"And why did the Spirit pen Colossians 2:16 that we are not to judge others on the observance of a Sabath or new moon or what we eat?"

Read what you just wrote, "...of A Sabbath." There are many sabbaths (not capitalized) in the bible, but there is only one "the Sabbath" (always captialized).
---Steveng on 1/10/10


Jerry //Jesus Christ Himself wrote the Sabbath Commandment with His own finger and commanded us ALL to REMEMBER it.

Where did Jesus command us to remember the Sabbath? New Testament book, chapter & verse PLEASE!

If you adhere to the ten commandments and the law, you are embracing that "ministry of death & condemnation craved on stone".
2 Cor.3:7,9

Furthermore it amazes me that you wish to identify with the chief enemies of our Lord, the sabbath keeping and law promoting Pharisees.

I cannot understand why that would not bother you. I know it would me if I were a Sabbaterian.

John 8:45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.
---Lee1538 on 1/10/10


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Jerry //There was only one day was made holy by God Himself, and that day is Sabbath, the SEVENTH day of the week. Any other day is simply a man-made counterfeit!

Then why did the Holy Spirit pen the verse in Romans 14:5 that one may esteem one day as holy over others or none at all?

If keeping the Sabbath was important then why did the Holy Spirit fail to mention it anywhere in the New Testament that one should observe it?

And why did the Spirit pen Colossians 2:16 that we are not to judge others on the observance of a Sabath or new moon or what we eat?

Perhaps you wish to believe the translators of our Bibles, none of whom were Sabbaterians, conspired to eliminate any command to obey the Sabbath from the Bible?
---Lee1538 on 1/10/10


The Holy Bible is God's word and commands for us to live by in our Christian walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. I am having the same trouble in locating a church which has Saturday, the God given and commanded Sabbath to keep, I still keep Saturday for the Sabbath, regardless of other people's opinions. We must follow Christ and not be men pleasers.
---Dee_9833 on 1/9/10


Dr George: "How do you know that you are worshiping on the Sabbath??"

Christians are to worship God every day of the week. The Sabbath was established before any man-made religion ever existed. It was even established centuries before Israel became a nation.

The purpose of the Sabbath was for a person to drop what they were doing and spend time walking with God. Christians today need the Sabbath more than any other time in history because they fill up every minute of every day with ipods, computers, phones, friends, family, work, school, entertainment, church, bible study, etc. - the things that take away from developing a true relationship with God. Exactly what Satan wants.
---Steveng on 1/9/10


Lee: "The OT sabbath is strictly a Jewish observance at it was NOT observed by any other nation nor was it even heard of prior to the time of Moses. Furthermore Sabbath observance was NOT found as a command anywhere in the NT, nor was it taught by the early church outside of Palestine."

What rot! What boldfaced lies! Jesus Christ Himself wrote the Sabbath Commandment with His own finger and commanded us ALL to REMEMBER it. He also said not one jot or tittle of the Ten Commandment Law would change while heaven and earth last.

We here at ChristiaNet have two choices: the words of Jesus or the words of Lee. I'm going with Jesus!
---jerry6593 on 1/9/10


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I find it hard to believe you can't find a church with a Saturday service.

Nearly every denomination and nearly every large church has a Saturday service.

They don't always advertise it though. I would say go to a bunch of church websites and look at the service times. Or, are you looking for ONLY a Saturday service? Are you lookiing for a messianiac congregation or something like that?

I am not "fussy" though as long as the church is Biblical. I go to a mainstream mega church that has had Saturday worship for years now.
---obewan on 1/9/10


"How do you know that you are worshiping on the Sabbath?? Mankind has not always kept track of each day..so what math would you use to determine you are worshiping on the original Sabbath??
Dr George"
---Dr_George on 1/8/10

In addition to the Jews, as samuel pointed out, you might consult any of over 100 languages worldwide that have a form of "Sabbath" for the day we call Saturday (e.g., Sabado (Spanish), Subota (Russian). Or you could contact your nearest astronomical observatory and ask them to explain why the weekly cycle can be traced to biblical times by the motions of the heavenly bodies.
---jerry6593 on 1/9/10


Don't tell anyone but the first day of Creation was on a Monday. So that would mean that the Sabbath is Sunday."
---Methuselah on 1/8/10

I can tell that logic was not your best subject. There was only one day that was made holy by God Himself, and that day is Sabbath, the SEVENTH day of the week. Any other day is simply a man-made counterfeit!
---jerry6593 on 1/9/10


Asking if we should worship in a sunday church is asking what did god mean by : "come out from among them my people."
under no circumstances is any christian allowed to forget the sabbath ay for any other day
---francis on 1/6/10

"IF" this is true, francis, why did the Apostle Paul write(under inspiration of the Holy Spirit) in the book of Romans14:1-12, let no man judge you in observance of days,feasts or other things, we are each answerable to God for how we worship.(paraphrased). The grace of God is not mixed with the Jewish law, it is all about worshipping God and His Son Jesus Christ.
---tommy7376 on 1/9/10


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Rhonda //Gods Holy Sabbath never openly or implied as abolished ...and not abolished by some hidden satanic code either...

You need to view the 613 laws found within Judaism. While most are found also in the New Testament, there are some that are not and HAVE NOT BEEN ABOLISHED. Do you still observe any of the unique Jewish feasts - the feast of tabernacles, Day of Atonement, Purim, Hanukkah (feast of lights), New Moon observance, etc. etc.etc.

The OT sabbath is strictly a Jewish observance at it was NOT observed by any other nation nor was it even heard of prior to the time of Moses.

Furthermore Sabbath observance was NOT found as a command anywhere in the NT, nor was it taught by the early church outside of Palestine.
---Lee1538 on 1/8/10


//...Adventists view Christians who do not do the OT sabbath as being Roman Catholics.
I have no idea what Adventists beliefs are or what their "beliefs" are about RCC

While you may not be an Adventist, you are basely cut from the same cloth, believing much of the same garbage as they do. Both you and they are steeped in legalism and generally show hatred towards Christians.
---Lee1538 on 1/9/10


\\RCC states all who worship on suns-day do so on her authority and DISOBEY Gods Holy Sabbath\\

Which is just another lie told by Rhonda, because the liturgical books of the Roman Catholic Church call for services on ALL days of the week, including Saturday.

Rhonda, believe it or not, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" does NOT have any exceptions, even that nasty ole Romin Katlik Church.
---Cluny on 1/8/10


...Adventists view Christians who do not do the OT sabbath as being Roman Catholics.
*****

I have no idea what Adventists beliefs are or what their "beliefs" are about RCC

"OT Sabbath" is not in Scripture

Gods Holy Sabbath never openly or implied as abolished ...and not abolished by some hidden satanic code either

however RCC has MUCH to say about suns-day

RCC boldly tells world nothing in Scripture abolishes Gods Holy Sabbath and SHE established suns-day worship by her authority those who worship on this day worship HER

RCC states all who worship on suns-day do so on her authority and DISOBEY Gods Holy Sabbath

PROTEST-ants "protested" RCC yet KEPT her suns-day
---Rhonda on 1/8/10


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Rhonda - looks like Methusela is some kind of joker.

//I have no idea why the protest-ant daughters keep promoting RCC's LIE about a "Jewish Sabbath" there is no such thing in Scripture.

ONLY the Adventists view Christians who do not do the OT sabbath as being Roman Catholics. But it is just too easy to point out the fact that the early church which did not promote the Sabbath was NOT Roman Catholic.

That kind of garbage comes from a well of hatred for children of the promise mentioned in Galatians 4, from those who are truly the slave children of Hagar.

While the Sabbath was given for man's benefit, namely to rest one day in seven.
The requirement is totally satisfied in principle by Sunday observance.
---Lee1538 on 1/8/10


The early church probably knew of this and corrected it, that is why they observe sunday instead of the Sabbath of the Jews.
****

so your saying the "early church" CORRECTED Christ and the Apostles who observed Gods Holy Sabbath?

I have no idea why the protest-ant daughters keep promoting RCC's LIE about a "Jewish Sabbath" there is no such thing in Scripture

Gods Holy Sabbath was given to MAN ...True Christians follow the examples given by Christ - Christ (as a Jew) observed Gods Holy Sabbath and those who worship in truth and spirit follow Christ NOT RCC's suns-day worship
---Rhonda on 1/8/10


If you cannot or have not found a church that observes Saturday, in the mean time you could benefit much by going to a church that preaches God's word.

When I was up in the wilds of Alaska, I went to any church that was available even if I did not totally agree with some of their doctrinal positions. I kept to those issues that mutually benefited each other and avoided things that may be divisive.
---Lee1538 on 1/8/10


Don't tell anyone but the first day of Creation was on a Monday.

So that would mean that the Sabbath is Sunday. The early church probably knew of this and corrected it, that is why they observe sunday instead of the Sabbath of the Jews.
---Methuselah on 1/8/10


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How do you know that you are worshiping on the Sabbath?? Mankind has not always kept track of each day..so what math would you use to determine you are worshiping on the original Sabbath??
Dr George

Easy go ask any Jew or call up your local synagogue and ask them which day is Sabbath. Or call any Roman Catholic church and ask them which day they have stated is the proper day of worship. That day will be the first day of the week. So go seven days from then.

Since JESUS walked the earth the days of the week have not changed.
---Samuel on 1/8/10


How do you know that you are worshiping on the Sabbath?? Mankind has not always kept track of each day..so what math would you use to determine you are worshiping on the original Sabbath??
Dr George
---Dr_George on 1/8/10


I suggest you visit a Messianic Church, There are many listed on the web.

You will learn a lot from the Messianic Jews. It is an Eye Opener!
---PASTOR_JIM on 1/7/10


Do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," and "encourg" because living a christian life is a 24/7 lifestyle - not a once a week pep talk dished out by denominational "churches." You are the church so bring together a few friends daily to worship God. It's more difficult to sin when worshiping every day with friends.

Besides, why would God establish the Sabbath, take it away, and then restablish it during the millinium and beyond?
---Steveng on 1/7/10


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Asking if we should worship in a sunday church is asking what did god mean by : "come out from among them my people."
under no circumstances is any christian allowed to forget the sabbath ay for any other day
---francis on 1/6/10


It really doesn't matter whatever church you "attend", on whatever day you "attend": if that church doesn't teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God (that Jesus was raised from the dead and will return to set up His Kingdom)... and they don't hand you the keys to death and hell, which is to be "born again" through repentance and baptism into the death and burial of Jesus Christ (in His name) for the remission of sins, that you might receive the gift of the Holy Ghost... well, then you might as well just head on down to the local bar, get drunk, and watch the weekly football game... for all anything else is gonna do for you.

That may not "sound" fitting and proper--but it is the truth.
---BruceB on 1/6/10


DJConklin & Samuel: Lee is not looking for truth. He is motivated solely by hatred for SDAs. His lies have been refuted many times in the past, but he keeps repeating them anyway.
---jerry6593 on 1/5/10


>Why for instance was the book she tried to publish "Sketches from the Life of Paul" dropped from print when the authors of another book "Life & Epistles of Saint Paul" protested to Ellen White?

The authors didn't protest, period. There's no evidence to support such a claim and we have a letter from the publisher stating that they didn't protest.

I compared all of both books and found that the overall running average of literary similarity was only 3.0458%. The amount that could be proven to be copied would be even less than that. And by the standards oif the day as long as you put what you borrowed in a new setting, or polished it then it was quite acceptable to borrow.
---djconklin on 1/4/10


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>Instead of addressing the question here you bring up about Ellen G. White being accused of being a Plagerist.

Anyone can accuse anmyone of virtually anything. But, that doesn't make the accusation true. If she had been a plagiarist then how come she was never called such in any major newspaper in the country? The New York Times ran over 1,000 articles on plagiarism during her lifetime and not a single one mentioned her. If she had been a plagiarist then how come she was never sued over it? Didn't the critics tell the alleged victims?
---djconklin on 1/4/10


Dear Lee

Instead of addressing the question here you bring up about Ellen G. White being accused of being a Plagerist.

I will admit she often used the words of others. Since she considered they were more educated then her and so would use them. In her early books not as many reference were used but often were added in latter publications. If you wish to start a blog on this topic fine.

But the question here is Lydia asking about churches that keep all of the Ten Commandments. I only know of three. Seventh day Adventist, Seventh day Baptists and Church of GOD Seventh day. The latter two are small and seem to be disappearing. There are some Messanic congregations who maintain Sabbath but they are all local groups.
---Samuel on 1/4/10


Dear Lydia

I am a Seventh day Adventist. I am not going to tell you the people in our churches are perfect. But we do teach all of the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath.

Could you please tell me what doctrines we teach you disagree with.

GOD be with you and sustain you.
---Samuel on 1/4/10


Lydia: What "Bible ways" do they not agree with? Where do you live in TN?
---jerry6593 on 1/4/10


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How does this question square with Romans14:5?
---mima on 1/4/10


I found that most of the sabbath keeping churches in my location, some actually 35 miles from home, didn't agree with the bible ways and the fellowship was more challenging than family. So I keep sabbath at home and do my bible studies on line and research the different groups. I have met some really dedicated people on line and some just want a be's....so hang in there and trust the Lord to send you some folks to fellowship with. God bless and keep you in all his ways. Tennessee
---Lydia on 1/3/10


David -*EGW was not a plagiarist*

I believe that the Dr. Rea, Veltman report as well as others have found sufficient evidence to indicate that Ellen White did indeed borrow extensively from other authors without giving due credit.

Why for instance was the book she tried to publish "Sketches from the Life of Paul" dropped from print when the authors of another book "Life & Epistles of Saint Paul" protested to Ellen White?
---lee on 7/14/07


Worship Jesus.
---Helen_5378 on 7/14/07


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Lee: "Mrs. White obviously did not hold the Bible in high regard as she often borrowed extensively from the works of others without any credit being given and that is stealing."

And yet when we actually look at the evidence we find that the critics had to manipulate it to make it look more like what EGW wrote! EGW was not a plagiarist.
---David on 7/14/07


I have found that all the searching in time, has been just taking up time. As long as I was not satisfied with each Sabbath keeping church I researched, I was not doing as the Lord commanded. So now, I am content with just getting the day off so I can attend a congregation,and pray that the Lord will intervene, where I can not understand the peoples ways. For He teaches us, and we either follow, or lay back into the ways of the world. So I follow.
---lydia on 7/10/07


You should be able to find a Seventh Day Adventist church in every city and town... I think they worship on Saturdays but let me suggest this to you: forget about worshipping on Saturday, Sunday or whatever day. All days are the same to the Lord. It doesn't matter. Really it does not. Be led by the Spirit of the Lord, beloved and you won't go wrong. God wants us to join a bible teaching church, grow and be frutiful, for him.
---Robyn on 5/8/07


Adventism is built upon the premise that the early church fall into corruption with the death of the last apostle. But that premise is also found within Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses and other cults that are highly critical and condemn other denominations.
---lee on 5/8/07


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TS - *...because she quotes & relies on it so often and holds it in such high regard.*

Though some would believe that, Mrs. White obviously did not hold the Bible in high regard as she often borrowed extensively from the works of others without any credit being given and that is stealing. She as well was good as slandering others that happen to question her belief that her epileptic visions came from God.
---lee on 5/8/07


Sharron, I'm sure you can see past Lee's insults to objectively examine the evidence for yourself. Most who have a problem with what Mrs. White said usually can't accept what the Bible says either, because she quotes & relies on it so often and holds it in such high regard.

Isaiah 8:20
To the Law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
---Geoff on 5/8/07


Sharon, before you leap into the pit of Adventism, you need to stop and realize that you have to swallow what Ellen White taught as well; and that may indeed give you the burfs as you learn more and more the doctrine of the Bible.
---lee on 4/17/07


Sharron, despite all Lee's sacrilege, facetiousness, sarcasm and disrespect, I'm just curious if you ever found a Sabbath keeping body with which to fellowship. In your search did you encounter any Seventh-day Adventists? What did you find?
---Geoff on 4/17/07


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Lee, you don't have to be Jewish to attend a Messianic Jewish Congregation. Usually a Messianic Jewish Congregation is a combination of Jewish Believers and Chritians that desire to know more of their Jewish Heritage.
---Phyllis on 4/16/07


Phyllis - *Lee, have you ever been to a Messianic Jewish Congregation?*

I once inquired about taking a course in Hebrew at one of the local Messianic Congregations and was told that they identified very closely with the Judaic traditions.

If I were Jewish, I most certainly would follow their pattern of worship and that would involve what Christians view as optional - the observance of the Jewish Sabbath as well as their festivals, etc.
---lee on 4/16/07


You have your Bible, your family or friend and you have a church...Jesus said "Where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, there I am also with them." Why bother going to Sunday worship when you can just worship at home if theres no Sabbath church around you? After al, Sunday is not the day of worship in God's Book. Did Jesus worship on the first day?/// He rose on that day...not worship
---jana on 4/14/07


Lee, have you ever been to a Messianic Jewish Congregation? Y'shua went to the synagogue on the Sabbath and he taught in the synagogue on the Sabbath. If we want to be "Christ-like" shouldn't we be doing as he did? His disciples kept the Sabbath - went to the Synagogue - taught on the Sabbath.
---Phyllis on 4/13/07


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Thou shalt remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy.
Jesus said, "I come Not to do away with the law but to fulfill it and not jot or tittle shall pass away until all things are fulfilled
---Pastor_Claud_Lowe on 4/13/07


The Worldwide Church of God still met and gather for communal worship on the Sabbath.

Suggest that you research that denomination to see if it fits your religious beliefs.

You can contact them thru the Internet.
---lee on 1/28/07


I recently heard of the religion called, "Sabbath Keepers," which I only know very little about. Maybe you can call your local Chamber of Commerce to find out if there are churches of this faith. Just a thought... or start one....
---Pat on 1/27/07


If Jesus didn't think the Forth Commandment was important, then it would not be written in the Revelation. Besides, "Blessed are they that keep my commandments...," Jesus says.

If you can't find a church, start your own home church. The type of churches that the Cristians started in the beginning. Keep it around 10 to 15, any more then start another group.
---Steveng on 1/26/07


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Ann - *Pray that your flight not be in the winter or on the Sabbath, if no one is praying what do you think will happen?*

Yes and you certainly do not want to be in Jerusalem when Gen. Titus and his Roman army comes marching in.

In the winter time you may freeze too death and if the devout jews own all the motels, you will not have any accommodations as stores will be closed on Saturdays - "Saturday blue laws".
---lee on 1/26/07


We should stick with worshiping on Saturday. The scriptures states, Pray that your flight not be in the winter or on the Sabbath, if no one is praying what do you think will happen?
---Ann on 1/26/07


Why not go all the way and look for a Messianic Jewish church as they still adhere to much that is of OT laws and customs?

As to the 10 commandments, why not make your spiritual life much simpler and adhere to the 2 that Christ gave - Luke 10:27
---lee on 8/12/06


Sharon, I hope you found a Sabbath keeping church. I've discovered so much variety (same truths, various styles) among Seventh-day Adventist churches that I'm sure there is one for you. I would love to help you find one. May I help?
---Geoff on 7/10/06


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Sabbath-memorial of creation
Sign of Gods sanctification
Day of rest, no work, nothing that will take time from God
Isa 58:13
Sabbath is a day of worhsip
Isa 66:22-23 for as the new heavens and the new earth which I will make shall remain before me saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one "sabbath" to another shall "all flesh" come to "worship before me" saith the LORD
---eric on 7/1/06


Sabbathkeeping, in the Old Law, was not a matter of attending services.

At the time the Law was given, there was only ONE worship site--the Tabernacle.

Synagogues are post-exilic.

Services, though were and still are held there not only on Saturdy but TWICE daily during the week, morning and evening.

Further proof the Sabbath Commandment had nothing to do with worship.
---Jack on 6/30/06


Helen, I am a saved Messianic Jew and rest on Sabbath.
---Eve on 6/30/06


Sharron,

The Seventh Day Adventist church would love to have you worship with them on sabbath. You can find one in your area wherever you are.
Remember what James said James 2:10-12

I suggest you stick with keeping the sabbath, Jesus did! Luke 4:16, 1 John 2:6
---eric on 6/30/06


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And since Christ has come, which day do we get to keep in an unholy and profane manner, so we can do what is right in our own eyes?

Surely you don't think "keeping the Sabbath holy" meant just going to an hour long service or two on Saturday. Or did you?
---Jack on 6/30/06


The Sabbath commandment, read in context, had to do with CEASING FROM LABOR, even for one's slaves and farm animals, and not with worship.

Besides, the feasts were called "sabbaths" as well.

You can't pick and choose which of God's sabbaths you observe--it's either all of them or none of them.

BUT--if you accept circumcision (that is the corpus of Jewish practices), Christ will do you NO GOOD.
---Jack on 6/30/06


The Sabbath only applies to non-saved Jews. Jesus did away with the Sabbath on the Cross. In Christ you are free to worship every day of the week. Praise God.
---Helen_5378 on 6/30/06




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