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Explain 2 Timothy 2:15

Does 2 Timothy 2:15 and 2 Timothy 3:16 contradict each other? Or do they compliment each other?

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 ---geraa7578 on 7/15/06
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They compliment each other. The 1st verse says to "know" the word so that you're not ashamed when speaking it (ie: know what you are saying, so you can lead and answer right), rightly dividing the two separate testaments. And the 2nd verse says that the sciptures are God's true words and are trustworthy for knowing and teaching truth, and righteousness, and correcting error.
---Eloy on 2/23/08


I have quickly looked at these here scriptures, and the only conclusion that I could possibly come up with anyway or anyhow is that they compliment each other.
---catherine on 2/22/08


I don't see why anyone should think they contradict each other.
---alan8869_of_UK on 2/22/08


Study to shew thyself approved "unto God" and then allow the Spirit of God to lead you into the scriptures or "rightfully divide" a message for the flock. It's no contradiction. David wouldn't use Saul's armour being not proven. God uses people that study to shew "him" that he may "approve" them.
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---Frank on 1/20/07


2 Timothy 2:15 are your instructions on what you should do. Study God's word/ways/will to to show God u are ready for the work.

2 Timothy 3:16 describes your study manual (bible) as directly from God, totally reliable.
---TDG on 1/20/07




All scriptures are given by inspiration of God, But all are not for the Church, The Body of Christ. So Paul Wrote us to Rightly divide the Word of Truth.Ephesian 2: 11 says about Time Past, in verse 13 it says But Now, in verse 7 says Ages to Come. So one of the division is 3 time periods in the Bible.
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---Packiyanathan on 1/19/07


Are you certain you have the correct verses? There is no condradiction. 2 Timothy is just stating the Christian is to have certain qualities and attributes and 2 Timothy 3:16 is stating the Scripture was given by God. Where is the contridiction?
---wivv on 8/30/06


gerra: And what did satan do? He didn't quote all that God had said. Who is it today that doesn't want Believers to study all God said in His church? Who is quoting out of context? The Pharisees couldn't deal with the Truth presented by Christ, so resorted to other means; such as saying He was in league with satan! The Holy Spirit won't allow the Bible to be cut into pieces! That's not the way to handle accurately (rightly divide) problem passages you have to deal with.
---danie9374 on 7/25/06


But one thing for certain, I could make you believe anything your heart desires. I could make you believe baptism is a must and I could make you believe it isnt necessary. I could make you believe that there is a rapture and make you believe that Christians will live through the tribulation period. You name it, I could make you believe in anything. How? By taking bible verses out of context. The way Satan did to Adam and Eve, to Jesus and to everyone.
---Steven on 7/24/06


The Spirit is giving wisdom. 2:14-16 addresses those who tend to strive, a pattern of those who know only bits & pieces.

The solution to this type of striving is knowledge, thus the admonition to study (line upon line, precept by precept) to be able to correctly extract Truth from God's Word. Truth is more convincing than argument, & Truth will be supported elsewhere in the Word.

In 3:16, the Spirit is validating the Word is Truth from God, and its importance to God & to man's growth.
---a_servant on 7/24/06




Like Satan did to Eve in Genesis 3, I guess he got you to Danie, Good luck at the judgement.
---geraa7578 on 7/24/06


Danie, you are correct. Fortunately it is the total word of God that is its own definition. Just as it takes 3 points to square a building, God's word always will allow proof of a truth. His Spirit guides us to His word. We here, though many differ in place and revelation do look to one God. I am thankful of the uniqueness of this website allowing us all to grow in faith and understanding of each other.
---mikefl on 7/22/06


Mike, I'd mostly agree with your explanation here. Though based on what the passages really mean, you can still use 'rightly dividing' that way and have it be true. But most who _insist_ only that phrase is correct, won't agree with you. Their 'ulterior motive' if you will, is to have a 'proof text' (out of context of course) for explaining why they believe many New Testament letters do *not* apply to us as Christians today.
---danie9374 on 7/22/06


My understanding is that the verses agree as entwining fingers. Rightly dividing is a way of saying be sure to use the words as they were meant to be used. i.e. the Greek word "KAI" can be used as "and", or "even". The dividing of that word can greatly change concepts (i.e.Gal.1:3). Punctuation can change the dividing of a sentence or a word. Just say the word "lunch" as a question, an answer, exclamation, or in disgust. Same word divided differently.
---mikefl on 7/20/06


gerra, Yes, I have a KJV and many other translations. I don't normally use the NIV myself either; I've found some rather questionable translations in it! But I'm never going to make some major doctrine out of one English phrase that even you yourself apparently don't truly understand. That's why I quoted A.T. Robertson for you. The words 'rightly dividing' in KJV 2Tm2:15 are *not* talking about 'separating' anything! A good modern equivalent is 'handling accurately'.
---danie9374 on 7/18/06


Daniel, I am guessing you don't have a KJV. KJV talks about "rightly dividing the word of truth", and all scripture. People have issues with rightly dividing scriptures and all scriptures given to use. NIV distorts those passages. But that is my opinion. Just want to see other people opinions.
---geraa7578 on 7/16/06


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If, on the ohter hand, gerra is 'trying to make something different' out of the old English words 'rightly dividing' (often misunderstood by many today), we direct your attention to our quote of A.T. Robertson here: Explain 2 Timothy 2:15 which gerra7578 often brings up and asked of us last year.
---danie9374 on 7/15/06


[2] the two phrases are synonymous. Jesus said (John 17:17) "Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth." And the phrase "the word of truth" used by Paul here and elsewhere (cf. 2Cor.6:7, Col.1:5) is at least as old as David's time; Psalm 119:43 also uses it to speak of God's words!
---danie9374 on 7/15/06


[1] 2Tm. 2:15 says: "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth." and 2Tm. 3:16 says: "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." If your underlying question is: 'Do they speak of the same collection of words?' then YES, they do! For Jesus, John, Paul and all Believers, ... [cont.]
---danie9374 on 7/15/06


They complement each other.
---M.P. on 7/15/06


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