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Pay For The Poor In Private School

Should we be paying for underprivledged children to go to private schools?

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 ---leslie on 7/19/06
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As a Texas public school teacher I say fix the education in the U.S and do away with No Child Left Behind. Get rid of tests!!! Find another way to make teachers accountable and get someone in Washington making decisions for us that has actually been in the trenches (and fairly recently I might add). I am sick of suits who know nothing about a classroom making decisions about my kids! Can I get an Amen from any teachers here?
---MichelleS on 11/24/07

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A better approach to the problem would be to improve public education.

This will benefit all of society.
---Jack on 11/17/07

I assume you are talking about educational vouchers paid for out of tax money.

I am basically against ANY public moneys going to private schools--directly or indirectly. What the government gives money to the government can control, and this will mean private schools, including Christian ones, will lose their distinctiveness.
---Jack on 4/1/07

Madison--I recently heard (tho I have no way to verify it) that it costs approx. Ten thousand dollars/year to educate 1 child in public schools. That's what taxpayers pay. NOW, what happens to it once it reaches the school districts is another matter....cetainly very little goes to teachers OR classrooms. Our school superintendent left after just a few years with a million dollars severance pay.
---Donna2277 on 7/21/06

madison ... Until this present lot got into power, we had a very good system where able children could be helped to go to independent schools. It worked!!
State schools do not seem to be geared up for the more able, and the left wing element in the teaching "profession" does not like to see some kids doing better than others
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

madison ... Yes the funds should go to state schools. The other side of the coin is that the independent schools are better managed, with better otivated staff. You say you don't want money "going to" the independent (private) schools, but it does not go to profitmakers (most of our independent schools are charities) but it "goes to" the kids who are being educated.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

madison ... I disagree with none of what you say. that happens here as well.
The present government has buit grand new schools with super new equipent,and these schools have not succeeded ... because they have not invested in enough good teachers.
In UK the teaching profession which used to be admired, is now held in low esteem.
How sad! Our labour government (socialist)speaks in soundbites,with new initiatives announced all the time, but they are then quietly abandoned.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

Alan: I have been in schools where I have to buy my own paper, and/or take my work to a copy store and pay my own money to run off papers for my students. That is ridiculous. I have purchased books for my students, pencils, pens, paper, etc. I should not have to do that.

If the government funded the public schools adequately, they would be up to standard.

BTW, my youngest went to private school for three years. I still believe that government money should only go to public schools.
---Madison1101 on 7/20/06

This is a very touchy subject for me because a LONG time ago all three of my children were attending Lutheran school affiliated with my church. My husband lost his job, no tuition payments, kids kicked out! Just like that!! Well, I will say it took them a few weeks (cant remember but it was fast) before they got kicked out because we couldn't afford it anymore. I think, if you can afford to help pay for less fortunate, then help pay.
thanx, sue
---sue on 7/20/06

I suppose Jack, that we all need to be aware that the majority of contributors here are in the US, but some of us are not. That's why my name says I am from the UK, so people know that I do not know all about US practice, and put a view as from what happens here in the UK
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

Madison, your statements make a great case for vouchers which, by the way, would not be government payments to schools but would be controlled by individuals. Inner city districts have some of the hightest per pupil costs, and the poorest results. Why not give the students the option of taking their share of the tax money and attend a better school? Class sizes would be reduced as well as the materials needed. Govt. schools would be faced with actual competition. Imagine that.
---ralph7477 on 7/20/06

Alan, perhaps I should have been more clear:

Whatever the US government gives money to, including private Christian schools, the US government can and will wind up controlling.

I know because I was teaching at JUST such a Christian school.
---Jack on 7/20/06

I know it is cheaper to send children to public schools rather than send them to private school. For me to put my two kids in a private school it will cost me around $400 a month, but that is a Christian school. the teachers in the school where I live, don't care, everytime we turn around they are bickering about wanting more money. but the busdrivers don't get a raise and they can't harp like the teachers can because the teachers are union. It isn't fair.
---Rebecca_D on 7/20/06

AMEN Madison and Jack!
---NV_Barbara on 7/20/06

# 2 What is needed is for the Government to lift the standards at state schhol, so that all schools can offer decent education.
Problem is that so many years of left wing government & left wing-union interference has left us with a legacy of teachers who are conditioned to teach to the lowest of the class, and the more able do not get stretched to their ability.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

# 1 My views are coloured because the city where I live has the lowest standard of state school education inthe UK (We sacrificed to send our daughters to private shools for our daughters, without state help)
Madison says "Government money should only go to public schools" but that ignores the interest of the children. If the state pays for a child to go to a private school, the money does not just "go to the school", it provides better education for the child. concerend.that
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/20/06

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Ralph: As a public inner city school teacher I can tell you that I have nothing vested in saying tax money should go to public schools.

Our society has it all backwards. The rich school districts have high paid teachers, and all the supplies they need. They have smaller class sizes and kids whose parents are involved in their lives.

Inner city school districts lack qualified staff, supplies and interested parents. We need tax money to operate.
---Madison1101 on 7/19/06

Ralph--You hit the nail on the head! PLUS, private schools can be held accountable to the people who pay them.
---Donna2277 on 7/19/06

There is no such thing as "government" money. The government has no money. Taxpayers have the money which is where government gets it from, therefore it's the taxpayers' money in reality. Freedom of choice is sacred to so many people yet those same people would not allow families to choose where to spend their school tax money. The teachers unions have too much invested to let anything upset the apple cart.
---ralph7477 on 7/19/06

I agree with Jack. Government money should only go to public schools.
---Madison1101 on 7/19/06

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Jack, How can you believe: "What the government gives money to the government can control, and this will mean private schools, including Christian ones, will lose their distinctiveness" ?
If the Government really & effectively controls all state sector schools, that will mean private schools and Church schools will become more distinctive
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/19/06

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