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Could Jesus come back today or is there anything yet to be completed?

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yes michael
watch (be ready and see/know the signs christ described)
those who backslide even for a short while during the tribulation, could be taken by suprise
others will fall away completely and not recognise the signs at all, (working of delusion, deception of the beast)
---glen on 4/25/10


Truly, truly I say to you, that in the last days Satan will challenge the Most High God, saying, "Give to me only a few moments, and I will turn easily against you every man and woman and child upon the earth." And Jesus will say to Satan, "Here, I grant to you five moments, which is as three and one half years upon the earth. And afterward the judgment."
---Eloy on 4/24/10


Michael: good comment, yes, we must always be ready, whether Jesus will come back today or not
---peter3594 on 4/24/10


Mat 24:48-51 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming, And shall begin to smite [his] fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken, The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for [him], and in an hour that he is not aware of, And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Mark 13:37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
---MIchael on 4/23/10


Could Jesus come back today or is there anything yet to be completed?

NO he willnot come back today. Or this month , and not next month. But he is coming soon.
---francis on 4/23/10




this is after the signs jesus described such as the AOD, sun,moon,stars etc

we can also see it in the 6th seal - with the multitude being caught up *who come out of great tribulation*

in revelation jesus said he will come *quickly*
yes like lightening, he did not say *anytime* from now
---glen on 4/22/10


MarkE., I'll be spending some time this weekend looking up verses that indicate that Christ could come at any time. After believing in Christ, I have always thought this was the case. I am open to the fact that sometimes I can have preconceived beliefs that are based on tradition or assumed teachings rather than on facts.

Do you have any more relevant verses to this topic?

To me the tone of NT writings, concerning Christ's return, is that He could come at any time.
---Rod4Him on 4/22/10


mark

paul describes the same trumpet in corintians and thess as the one jesus describes in matthew 24



52in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, in the *last trumpet*, for it shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we -- we shall be changed:

16because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the *trump of God*, shall come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall rise first,

matthew 24
31 and he shall send his messengers with a great sound of a *trumpet*, and they shall *gather together his chosen* from the four winds, from the ends of the heavens unto the ends thereof.
---glen on 4/22/10


glen mentioned an interesting concept, where does the NT say the return of Christ is imminently possible?
---Rod4Him on 4/22/10

In Revelation, of course!!!

Rev 2:16 "Therefore repent, or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth

Rev 3:11 "I am coming quickly, hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown."
---Mark_Eaton on 4/22/10


Rod4Him:

I have no problem with dissenting opinions about escatology. I am always learning as we all should be.

What Glen has said is people like me who believe in Pre-Trib do not believe the whole Bible, that we must be not believing passages such as Matt. 24.

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

His statements divides us and causes distinctions. Such was described in Jude 1:19. I am not calling Glen a false teacher, but he should not say such things lightly.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/22/10




MarkE, may I suggest that it is your opinion that pre-trib is true, and are you an arm chair eschatologist?

Our Loving Heavenly Father has let many believers be tortured unto death, all the apostles except John, Polycarp, and the list goes on. Maybe believers ought to be ready rather than thinking God is going to get them out of this mess. I know, that wasn't the "wrath" of God, that was His personal love.

glen mentioned an interesting concept, where does the NT say the return of Christ is imminently possible?

MarkE, don't misunderstand my response to you, I appreciate much of your contributions. I happen to disagree with your eschatology.
---Rod4Him on 4/22/10


the problem with pre-trib too is that it leaves believers unprepared to what is coming
---glen on 4/22/10

You got that ALL wrong.

In YOUR opinion there is no pre-trib rapture. If you happen to think that our loving Heavenly Father wants us to suffer His judgement on the world, go ahead and think that.

Yet, you have given us no chronology for the 1 Thes 4 event, have you? Or the "changing" taking place in 1 Cor 15? When do these events happen?

The problem with armchair escatologists is that every time they read the word tribulation they think it means "the great tribulation". Better rethink that.
---Mark_Eaton on 4/22/10


Rod

what you may need to realise is that the bible does not teach imminency, only imminency AFTER the events jesus described

the tribulation is *cut short* in the words of christ, but we do not know how much shorter it is cut

he teaches that he only comes as a thief to unbelievers, or backsliders, NOT the ones expecting him because they are seeing the SIGNS

christ would not bother to give us warnings of signs if his coming was imminent, signs will precede his coming and those signs he described have not all come yet

the problem with pre-trib too is that it leaves believers unprepared to what is coming
---glen on 4/22/10


glen, interesting, I'll have to give this some thought. Have I unconsciously accepted a tradition that Christ could come at any time?

...um, I'll search the scriptures to see if this is so. However, my recollection is that writers of the NT indicated by the langauge, "no one knows the time," that it could be at any time and imminent. By the thinking you present, I don't have to think about it because it is a future event, and there is no motivating factor that He could come at any time when we are not expecting it.
---Rod4Him on 4/21/10


I'll just guess on this one. Jesus can come anytime that He wants too. Remember, we only know inpart, anyhow. Look-up, look-up, and look-up.
---catherine on 4/22/10


Rod

it doesn't say anywhere that it can happen anytime, only that no one knows the day or hour

events and signs will precede the return of christ (AOD, sun,moon and stars just some of them)

some of the early church thought it was imminent because they thought nero was the antichrist,likewise later the church thought the pope was the antichrist
---glen on 4/21/10


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Interesting question because the pre-trip folks say He could come today, but at the same time a New Temple in Jerusalem needs to be built. Can't have it both ways.

And then the mid-trib and later folks say, yes, but He couldn't come until the Trib starts, so they generally say yes, but... and no.

So, how does it fit that He could come at any time if things have to happen first?...um...
---Rod4Him on 4/21/10


yes

AFTER the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened etc, then the saints will be gathered, which is seen in heaven before the wrath of God is poured out on the earth
---glen on 4/21/10


i don't know how many times it has to be repeated but jesus said AFTER
AFTER
AFTER
AFTER

the tribulation of those days, the elect will be gathered, not before then

this parallels the 6th seal events
---glen on 4/21/10


15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

this is just one of those things that jesus warns about that happens before he returns

has this happened yet?
---glen on 4/21/10


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\\I do not know who you have been talking to but THIS pre-trib rapture believer knows Matt 24\\

Those who are looking for a pre-trib rapture will be among the first to fall down and worship Antichrist.
---Cluny on 4/21/10


Thats right! you just admitted that matt 24 makes reference to the rapture, and thus matt 24 applies to the church!!
---glen on 4/21/10

I also agree with Jesus when he says:

Matt 24:32 "Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near, so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door".

We should be looking at the signs and know when His return is approaching.

I do not know who you have been talking to but THIS pre-trib rapture believer knows Matt 24.

And by the way, do you see the similarities of Matt 24:29-31 and Rev 6:12-17?
---Mark_Eaton on 4/21/10


there is no pre trib rapture
that position claims that matt 24 does not apply to the church

does pretribulationists permit date setting?

at this point you are answering "no because no one can know the day or hour"

but do you realise what passage you just cited?

matt 24:36
"but concerning that day and hour no one knows...

Thats right! you just admitted that matt 24 makes reference to the rapture, and thus matt 24 applies to the church!!
---glen on 4/21/10


Nana, There is a certain time that the rapture will happen (Matthew 24:22,40-51), but until then we understand that no worldy ones can see God, but the god-seeking will see God. For I myself have seen God more than once, even as the Bible says. And you all will seek me and find, when you all will search for me with all your heart. Jeremiah 29:13.
---Eloy on 4/21/10


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The rebuilding of the Temple. Hello, its kind of a major deal?
---larry on 4/21/10


On seeing God, Jesus says: "Blessed they of clean heart, for they will see God. The one that has my commandments, and keeps them, this one it is that loves me: and the one that loves me will be loved of Father of me and I will love that one, and will reveal myself to that one. If a person love me that one will keep my words: and Father of me will love that one, and we will come to that one, and our dwelling in that one we will make." Matthew 5:8+ John 14:21,23.
---Eloy on 4/21/10


On seeing God, Jesus says: "Blessed they of clean heart, for they will see God. All things were given to me by the Father of me: and no one knows the Son, except the Father, nor does know anyone the Father, except the Son, and to whomever will the Son reveal. The one that has my commandments, and keeps them, this one it is that loves me: and the one that loves me will be loved of Father of me and I will love that one, and will reveal myself to that one. If a person love me that one will keep my words: and Father of me will love that one, and we will come to that one, and our dwelling in that one we will make." Matthew 5:8+ 11:27+ John 14:21,23.
---Eloy on 4/21/10


On seeing God, Jesus says: "Blessed they of clean heart, for they will see God. All things were given to me by the Father of me: and no one knows the Son, except the Father, nor does know anyone the Father, except the Son, and to whomever will the Son reveal. The one that has my commandments, and keeps them, this one it is that loves me: and the one that loves me will be loved of Father of me and I will love that one, and will reveal myself to that one. If a person love me that one will keep my words: and Father of me will love that one, and we will come to that one, and our dwelling in that one we will make." Matthew 5:8+ 11:27+ John 14:21,23.
---Eloy on 4/21/10


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1 Thessalonians 5:1-6 "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child, and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others, but let us watch and be sober."
"... ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."
---Nana on 4/20/10


Mark, Christ can physically visit and minister to his own children at any time that he so chooses, for he is God, and especially when we call to him. Jesus is not dead and neither is he afar off somewhere detached and inactive from his creation, but instead he intervenes daily in the affairs of his body. He keeps his giant orb spinning and revolving around his sun, and keeps all of the tons of oceans with its fishes and multitudes of people and nations and animals on his planet, together with all his hosts of heaven in perfect alignment.
---Eloy on 4/21/10


Perhaps he will share with us his very own reasoning.
---Nana on 4/20/10

So according to YOUR reasoning, the Day of the Lord has already come?

Somehow I missed these obvious events.

Joel 2:30-31 "I will display wonders in the sky and on the earth, blood, fire and columns of smoke. The sun will be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes."

Amos 8:9 "'It will come about in that day,' declares the Lord GOD, that I will make the sun go down at noon and make the earth dark in broad daylight".
---Mark_Eaton on 4/20/10


I do not think that jared is a mocker. Perhaps scriptures as these have shappen , his perception:
Mattew 28:20 "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
John 14:23 "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."
John 4:25-26: "The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he."
Perhaps he will share with us his very own reasoning.
---Nana on 4/20/10


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Is it possible were looking forward to something we should be looking back on?
---jared on 4/12/10

I would say you need to STUDY 1 & 2 Peter and Jude.

2 Peter 3:3-4 "Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts, and saying, 'Where is the promise of His coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.'"
---Mark_Eaton on 4/16/10


Why Jesus would say:
Joh 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

As if to say, you wont believe.

He said:
Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Is it so hard to believe?
I guess I am done!
God bless all of you.

I hope you find whatever it is. You think youre looking for!
This is both a curse and a blessing!

You teachers, remember these words.
If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts!
---TheSeg on 4/13/10


Think on this, It's been over 2,000 years since God inspired these words

"For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry" Hebrews 10:37
"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Matthew 24:34

Is it possible were looking forward to something we should be looking back on?
---jared on 4/12/10


Mary a curious thing to me is, as follow.
Everybody seems to be waiting.
But he said be watchful! Less that day come on you like a thief!

Now Mary, this I find very funny.
A good thief might get caught, right!
A Great Thief, you would never know was there. Is this true?

You know! The bible also says no one can see God!
Maybe youre looking for something you cant see?

He also said if you were blind. You would see!
But then, I ask myself.
How can someone who is blind, see?
Dont you think this is an interesting question?

You know if you removed a blind man cane.
He wouldnt know it was missing until he wanted to walk!
Luk 7:35
---TheSeg on 4/10/10


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no Christ will not return today or for the next few years ...he cannot return until prophecy is fulfilled

unless europe unites under 10 nations led by the pope in the next few months creating the final holy roman empire as foretold in prophecy ...we do see the beginning of this today as the pope is calling home her daughters

1/3 of prophecy has yet to occur much of this is prior to times of tribulation not after

until prophecy is fulfilled Christ will not return
---Rhonda on 4/10/10


Hi Seq, no I didn't think it was going to be you, I was just wondering if you had any idea who Elias is/is going to be, just curious :)
---Mary on 4/10/10


Mary, you made me laugh!
Did you think I was going to say me?
Do you think Im one of those, who walk round saying, I am Christ follow me!

Did he not say you are to follow no one! Including me!
You know when I have a serious question about my faith. I ask God or maybe even his spirit!
No one else can answer.

I do see doubt in your words. Because you said "going to be!" As if he was not already.
Like Christ said your time is always ready! Seems to me a lot of people are saying!
My lord delayeth his coming.

Why is everyone waiting for tomorrow. Is it because they cannot see today?
Mar 11:13
God Bless You
---TheSeg on 4/9/10


Hello to The Seq. :) My question is, who is Elias going to be?
---Mary on 4/9/10


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Times & Seasons

Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields, for they are white already to harvest.

But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet.

GodBless
---TheSeg on 4/8/10


Could Jesus come back today or is there anything yet to be completed?

gauranted not to come THIS MONTH ( APRIL)

The tribulation must come first, the mark of the beast must come first, it is during the great tribulation that He will return.

Not before, not after, but during

See Daniel 12
---francis on 4/8/10


Mark_Eaton,

When we see him sit in that temple claiming to be God, we'll know who he is... and not before. That's the son of perdition being revealed. And that's exactly what I said... in not so many words. LOL

As to the falling away: you're right--but it started a long time ago... right about the time John the revelator croaked: and it's gonna continue on until Jesus returns.
---BruceB on 1/1/10


In the past it is recorded that many have missed the boat because they stopped looking and turned to sin: recall the people in Noah's day, after Noah and his family entered the Ark of Salvation and the door was shut it began to rain, and the dissers left outside could not enter into the salvation, and they all likewise perished.
---Eloy on 12/31/09


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Eloy, you just told us that He returned and visited you at your home in California and here you say, "Christ can return" In your prior statement He already did in person and left in a hurry to go build more mansions. So, did He return already or is He going to return at the Second Coming?
---MarkV. on 12/31/09


I ain't seen the son of perdition runnin' around--have you?
---BruceB on 12/30/09

Perhaps you have and you just don't know it. What if he is among us right now? He could be among us and simply not REVEALED yet. In fact, I say he is among us and he is soon to be revealed.

The other part of 2 Thes 2 is the apostasy must come first. I think this is already fulfilled. How many times do you read on here how today's christians are weak, feeble, and still sucking milk? How can you deny the rise in Islam among countries whose religion was formerly Christianity? In addition, very few of todays Jewish people are religious and even fewer practice Orthodox Judaism. The falling away has already started.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/31/09


Bruce B, you are correct when you said,
"3. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,"

The antichrist would rise as a result of a tremendous falling away (v.3) in the Church before Jesus Christ returns to gather the faithful (v. 1).
Paul called this antichrist, "the man of sin" (v.3) "the son of perdition" (v. 3) "the mystery of lawlessness" (v. 7) and "the Wicked one" (verses 7,8).
---MarkV. on 12/31/09


Christ can return at any time: "And except those days should be shortened, there would no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened." Matthew 24:22. When you continue to obey: "Blessed that servant, whom their Lord when he comes will find so doing." Matthew 24:46. But if you turn away to sin, and say in your heart, My Lord delays his coming: "The Lord of that servant will come in a day when that one not looking for, and in an hour that that one is not aware of." Matthew 24:50.
---Eloy on 12/31/09


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NO!

Why do "Christians" find it so difficult to accept the Bible? Jack's on target:

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition,


I ain't seen the son of perdition runnin' around--have you?

Don't confuse each of us croakin'... with the return of Christ. They're two different scenarios.
---BruceB on 12/30/09


Matthew chapter 24.
---Eloy on 9/24/09


To answer the OP's question:

Act 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord,
Act 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
Act 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive UNTIL the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

What was spoken by the prophets of old. When that message is received again, restored, Messiah will return.

Peace.
Ken
---Ken_Rank on 9/24/09


BMS --
Do you see any signs of progress in the church...any reason to hope the church is on the way to becoming a "pure" bride "without blemish"? Any signs of the Body of Christ becoming more unified?.

What I see is... many falling away...the times seem to fit II Thess 2: 3-4(NKJV)
Let no one deceive you by any means, for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

I see conditions today as more conducive to the "man of sin" revealing himself than world-wide revival.
---Donna66 on 9/20/09


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I am unsure , but i think he will come back

in the yaars 2000's or before - but hidden because of privacy reasons, i think some thinks he will be reincarnated from canada and the us , isla de jesus , de la magdalene ...

i also think le tamplaire or les chavalier du dieu ( dieux ) might know it , or knew -

i also feel after 2000 years or about he should have come after jesus 1 , jesus 2 also called yoshua or david -
The simbol might be an eagle , jonatan , aigle , a falcon - 006 007 009

Come and visit Venice , Veneto and Milan
Italy is avery nice country -

Ciao Giuseppe Brion
---giuseppe_brion on 9/20/09


There is nothing that has to happen before the Lord comes back for the Church.One must remember that the signs point to his second coming at the battle of Armeggedon,not to the rapture.
---Tommy on 1/16/08


Using OT/NT chronological order it lines up as Post tribulation:

Birth pains
Established one-world government/
prior to the Antichrist's 8th beast government.

The Jewish temple in Jerusalem rebuilt/
Observance of OT commandments concerning animal sacrifices reinstated.

a great falling away Anti-Christ will be revealed. Peace Treaty in Israel. Trampling of Jersualem by Gentiles. Image of beast set up in tenple.
Tribulation period -Cosmic signs then Rapture Day!
---yochanon on 1/16/08


No, not in the clouds anyway. If all we need is 'grace' then He could come anytime, but then why hasn't He come already then? Because the Bride is not ready and the 144K have not been sealed and the time of trouble has not started.
---Dr._Rich on 1/16/08


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From what I understand there are some things that still needs to be completed. I could go do some studying on that right now, but I don't want to.
---catherine on 1/16/08


To answer this question simply no. Acccording to Ephs. 5 :25-27 He is coming back for a church without blemish. The church is to jacked up and disunified right now for Him to come back. I wanted a pure bride whe I got married, why should Jesus have anything less. Once the church as the Body of Christ get unified maybe. We need to spend more time focusing on what & why He is coming back for then when He is coming back.
---BMS on 1/16/08


There is a doctrine called The Immanent Return of Christ. In other words Jesus could be at any time. Jesus taught this: Matthew 25:13, "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh." as did other NT writers: ie James 5:7-8, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. ...; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh."
---Bruce5656 on 4/19/07


BMS, All it takes is a satallite dish and tv set. Anyone could have those "remote villages" connected to the world within a day.

Personally I think that the Olivet Discourse that Christ gave us is specific to the second-coming at the end of the tribulation and is given in reference to Israel. The rapture is not found in the Olivet Discourse because it pertains to the Church, not Israel. I think that the technology reaching these places will be in the latter half of the tribulation.
---tofurabby on 7/24/06


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Leave the wicked alone. It is the job of the church to judge sin in the church. As a child of the King I have the right to judge and I will mess with the wicked as it is my job to. That very comment proves why the church is messed up and why He aint coming back for awhile.
---BMS on 7/24/06


Take heart, BMS. God always has his faithful. Leave the wicked alone. God will separate them when He comes-Mt 13:25-30.
---Geoff on 7/24/06


Geoff, Yes we have witnessed to a lot of people and groups here are some statistics though. 6.5 billion people only 4 million clame to be born again. Their are still remote villiages that do not have modern technonolgy. So we have not reached all the earth. IT is going to be sometime.
---BMS on 7/21/06


I know the bible says watch and be ready and we need to becuase he is goign to come back at an hour when we lest expect. Their are people out here living holy righteous lives, but Christ want a bride not a whore. Right now the church has so many demons in it. The church needs some deliverance first so that we can build a foundation for the world to stand on.
---BMS on 7/21/06


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I here what people are saying, but their is to much politcal mandering and self serving attitudes in the church. The church statically speaking is far worse then the world. The church is supposed to be the ones setting the culutre but as christian we are now a sub culutre.
---BMS on 7/21/06


Steven, the truth is the gospel has been throughout the world several times over. Still, there remain those who haven't heard. We serve a God of mercy, but He will one day cut the time short in righteousness and eveyone will know. We are in the last days and all the signs have been fulfilled. Let's live ready and get as many ready as the Lord allows us. Maranatha!
---Geoff on 7/21/06


When the Second Advent will come is subject to debate, but nobody can deny that Jesus will come for him/her at any moment.
---Jack on 7/21/06


Jesus can come back at any time.
---Helen_5378 on 7/20/06


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The Gospel must first be published among all nations. Plus all the other prophecies in which the frequency increases like the birth pangs of a women about to deliver a baby - like earthquakes, famines, race against race. Israel becomes a nation and when Jereusalam becomes the focal point of the world. The rebuilding of the temple where Satan will sit and claim he is God. But fear not, all these things must happen before Jesus return. Just live a Godly life in your community.
---Steven on 7/20/06


I'm sorry BMS but I really need to disagree with you despite my inexpertise in scriptural knowledge. If Christ were to come back for a church without blemish His return would never happen. There is no righteousness outside of Christ. His bride is only pure and spotless due to Him. Not what we as a church need to accomplish first. Humanly imposible. Praise God!
---tony on 7/20/06


My understanding of the Bible is that we need the revelation of Antichrist and Tribulation first (no pre-trib rapture or earthly millennium).

Ultimately, the only thing needed is for the Father to say, "Today is the day, and this is the moment."
---Jack on 7/20/06


BMS, didn't God tell Gideon he saved 300 for himself?
What makes you think God hasn't been gathering a remant, a people for His own possession? What makes you think there aren't people out there who are leading Holy lives? To categorize the church in the way you did shows you don't see with your spiritual eyes, and you don't understand spiritual things. Now I know all of the legalists are going to argue with me...lol.
---TruthfulOne on 7/20/06


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Yes Jesus can come back at this very moment. The bible says that we no not the hour, and that he will come like a theif in the night. We need to be ready, not get ready but be ready at all times.
---Rebecca_D on 7/20/06


The second coming has the two parts. The first part being when he returns in the air and gathers the believers, both those who are alive and those who are dead.(This is the rapture) the second part has to do with Jesus touching down on the Mount Olives, and the dividing of the goat and sheep nations. The first part can happen at any moment.
---mima on 7/20/06


As Bruce correctly stated, even at the time of the writing of the Scriptures people were taught to live as though it could happen now. If it couldn't have happened then that would be misleading. Is there anything else to be completed? Yes. ll Thes.2 shows clearly that the Anti Christ must first be revealed. This, of course, could have and can happen any time.
---john on 7/20/06


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