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Does the Book of Mormon contradict the Bible? Why is it no other Christian groups use it?

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HappyLDS, bear with me. Let's unravel misunderstanding and go to Colossians again. Now you say that the angel in mid-heaven in Revelations is called Moroni, and that he has the 'Gospel part two'. Contrarily, Colossians is loaded with claims that the Gospel is in its entirety, this long before the angel is due: This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed. And Galatians: the gospel I preached. And 1Corinthians: the gospel I preached. It's all in the past tense, in its fullness. Now you've hailed pragmatism, so, if the Nicene Creed didn't censor these excerpts, which of them do you in order to promote the Mormon 'gospel'? If you do rubbish these claims then the bible is not Holy.
---John_II on 9/4/10


JohnII - you are going in circles because you are putting words in my mouth! I NEVER said that the Bible is unholy - NEVER! I did say that the council at Nicea decided on what went in and what stayed out. They also determined the order AND came up with the doctrine of the Trinity. This is historical fact. Mormons revere the Bible - both the Old and New Testaments. We believe the Bible to be the Word of God but we also recognize that there are different translations. How can you say there aren't? There are many different doctrines out there all claiming to be from the Bible!?!? How can that be? If putting words in my mouth or undermining my faith causes you to be more comfortable in your own - so be it.
---HappyLDS on 9/3/10


First the book of Mormon is only part of the added books of Smith that are used to replace the Bible which they do not trust.

While the BOM has been shown to be completly inaccurate it claims to be a book of history. On the other hand Doctrines and Covenants is where Smith teaches his doctrine. There is also the Book of Abraham a proven fabrication where Smith claimed to read hieroglyphics at a time when on one could read them. He even copied the writing which today can be read and which shows he lied. There is also a book called Pearl of Great Price if I remeber correctly. In my copy of Doctrines and Covenant they are all included.
---Samuel on 9/3/10


My concern is that I have come across three (I'm sure there's more) that claim unless one believes their church or organization or doctrine people are in the wrong. It is interesting having them all approach at the same time. I love the way God works. All three believe almost completely different things that are so contrast to one another-yet-the one major thing in common is that what their organization believes is supposed to be the only truth.
One believes Christ in not eternal and is a god, the other believes he has died and rose but bend a knee and pray to others, and the other claim he is just a prophet and that we will also be gods----
Praise God for His mercy and grace.
---char on 9/3/10


HappyLDS {your quote: 'The only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. It is his doctrine that we follow'}, you're sending me in circles because we're back in Colossians which claims fulness as per the Gospel of Jesus Christ - the very Gospel which you say you follow - yet you dismissed this book as untrustworthy pertaining to the 'humanism of the Nicene Creed', and therefore making an opeing for the BoM. So, either Mr. Smith really did receive instructions from God for saving our souls and the abundant life, so therefore superceding the bible which then cannot be Holy, or he received these revelations from a demon with a strategy to discount anything in the bible which hinders the demonic work of such a false gospel?
---John_II on 9/3/10




\\JackB - I once asked a Baptist preacher if his church was the only true church and he said he couldn't say that.\\


wrong person cluny. I didnt say this.
---JackB on 9/2/10


Happylds, I did not say you do not study now that you are a Mormon. What I said was that those who join as members have no knowledge of Scripture, and once they join they study mainly the book of Mormon. And once they do that, it is almost impossible for them to ever see the light. It is like a candle which is lit, and once they join, the candle becomes to lose its light, the wax begins to cover it. Till finally the light goes out. They make the Lord a little god, and angel like satan. Even more, a little god who does not have the nature, character, and attributes of God. They strip Him of His deity just like the Jehovah Witnesses do.
---MarkV. on 9/2/10


HappyLDS, Jesus Christ has no brother as Jesus Christ always was. Satan is a created being. Do you believe that Jesus Christ is a created being like Satan or that Jesus and God are One as the scripture states?
---Alan on 9/2/10


Who was it that supposedly gave Joseph Smith his directions?
---mima on 9/2/10

The angle Moroni? Supposedly visited Smith on numerous occasions. He was the guardian of the golden plates, the basis of the BOM>

Said to be the same person as a prophet-warrior named Moroni. Supposedly buried the plates before he died after a great battle between two pre-Columbian civilizations. After he died, he was resurrected, became an angel, and was tasked with guarding the golden plates. According to LDS he still has the plates.
---NurseRobert on 9/2/10


Happy...how can you say that when you believe that Jesus was created ,and that He and satan are spirit brothers. How is this the true gospel?
---JIM on 9/2/10

You know Jim, this has been answered so many times that it really serves no purpose. Those who choose to believe this is sinister will do so...you being one of those. For the record - Lucifer was once in heaven as a son of God. He was cast out (can't be cast out of someplace you never were) and became Satan. Jesus is also a Son of God AND is the ONLY begotten in the flesh. This is how the conclusion is drawn that the two are brothers. We do not exalt Satan in any way and people such as yourself should get over it.
---HappyLDS on 9/2/10




Members that join are those who do not know Scripture and are easy targets. They do not question what they are taught. They believe what others tell them. There is no personal interpretation.
---MarkV. on 9/2/10

Interesting. Just so you know - we study ALL scripture. Our course of study this year is the Old Testament. We discuss openly - we are free to ask questions or present another thought on an interpretation. We are encouraged to study it out for ourselves and to pray for answers. We are not robots - I would suggest that the real robots are those who believe what their pastors tell them with no research on their own...including things said about other faiths.
---HappyLDS on 9/2/10


JohnII -
The only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. It is his doctrine that we follow.

This is NOT the church of Joseph Smith, we DO NOT worship Joseph Smith. We are grateful for living prophets just as we are grateful for the biblical prophets. We believe the Bible to be the Word of God but we also believe that many things have been changed, misinterpretted and omitted through the different translations. The books of the Bible were determined by a council of men - none claimed inspiration from God. They determined the doctrine of the Trinity at that time.
---HappyLDS on 9/2/10


"Joseph Smith was not speaking to the Father and Son in his encounter."

I had no idea that JackB was present - nothing I've read has ever indicated that there was someone else present!

Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me... (JackB)

And for us there is no other God - we worship God the Father. Yes, we believe that our Father in Heaven wants us to have all that He has and achieve all that He has achieved. Just as we do our children - I would imagine that a Heavenly Parent would too. We will NEVER be beside Him or above Him - He is our Father, our God.
---HappyLDS on 9/2/10


Who was it that supposedly gave Joseph Smith his directions?

**God and Jesus Christ appeared and instructed him not to join any of the churches. (the short of it)

Galatians 1:8 says"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."by Mima

**I know you think this scripture proves something because Moroni is an Angel...the problem you have is that what we preach is the complete Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The above verse puts all followers of Joseph Smith and a accursed position.
---mima on 9/2/10

**We aren't followers of Joseph Smith - we are followers of Jesus Christ.
---HappyLDS on 9/2/10


Who was it that supposedly gave Joseph Smith his directions?

Galatians 1:8 says"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."

The above verse puts all followers of Joseph Smith and a accursed position.
---mima on 9/2/10


Joseph Smith was not speaking to the Father and Son in his encounter.

Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me...

Not one God "per galaxy"...

ONE GOD, ONE LORD, NONE ELSE!
---JackB on 9/2/10


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\\JackB - I once asked a Baptist preacher if his church was the only true church and he said he couldn't say that.\\

Then why does he remain? According to Christ's own promise, the True Church will be out there SOMEWHERE.

||I appreciate being a member of a church which claims to have the complete and true Gospel of Jesus Christ. As far as I'm concerned I would not be a member of a church that doesn't claim to be true and I believe has biblical scripture to back it's claim.||

That's PRECISELY why I'm Orthodox.
---Cluny on 9/2/10


HappyLDS, I ask you again as the other blog did run out: If Mormonism is the only way to Heaven, and the bible is humanly adulterated on some of its traditions (especially where it claims to be the only true Gospel) and so, conversely, incomplete on the Gospel, and Joseph Smith had the 'secrets of God' revealed to him by God, this with the knowledge of which parts of the bible are actually divinely inspired, then why didn't Mr. Smith make a single, comprehensive and complete book according to the Traditions and Gospel of Joseph Smith? Why not supersede the bible being that it's not as authoritative as it claims to be? Because, as I mentioned before, it's all too evident that Mormonism needs Christianity to exist rather than the other way round?
---John_II on 9/2/10


Happylds, most churches like yours have very kind people. I have witness the kindness of many in the Jehovah Witnesses also. A very happy group. They are all in one accord with what is taught to them by their leaders. In fact almost every cult denomination has very loyal members. They have all been deceived. They follow the teachings of some person who proclaims to be the Truth. An apostle or someone who saw a vision and breaks away from what was taught to him and forms a group of people, small in the beginning, but which grows as time goes on. Members that join are those who do not know Scripture and are easy targets. They do not question what they are taught. They believe what others tell them. There is no personal interpretation.
---MarkV. on 9/2/10


Heb 1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds,
Gal 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another, but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
-Christ, the Word.
---micha9344 on 9/2/10


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Happy said: I appreciate being a member of a church which claims to have the complete and true Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Happy...how can you say that when you believe that Jesus was created ,and that He and satan are spirit brothers. How is this the true gospel?
---JIM on 9/2/10


JackB - I once asked a Baptist preacher if his church was the only true church and he said he couldn't say that. There is the problem I have. I believe there can be only ONE true church - one Gospel of Jesus Christ. I appreciate being a member of a church which claims to have the complete and true Gospel of Jesus Christ. As far as I'm concerned I would not be a member of a church that doesn't claim to be true and I believe has biblical scripture to back it's claim. I believe that God continues to communicate through Prophets - I think that we need Him more than ever. You can use sarcasm and make fun of my faith all you'd like - it serves only to strengthen my faith.
---HappyLDS on 9/1/10


If someone is interested in the complete truth - they should ask a Mormon.
---HappyLDS on 8/31/10

The complete truth as in what Joseph Smith taught you? Or the partial truths that most mormons tell you?
---NurseRobert on 9/1/10


//If someone is interested in the complete truth - they should ask a Mormon.//

It never fails...

Ill be right there. First I have to ask a Calvinist, a Baptist, a Methodist, a Catholic, a Seventh Day and a Jehovah's Witness since they have ALL claim the same thing.

Maybe the reason why so many people deny Christ is because they see the church and how divided it is. We cant even decide upon one truth ourselves.
---JackB on 9/1/10


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JackB - apparently I am unable to make myself clear. As far as race goes, I know what I experience and I do not experience any racism in the church. We have churches all over the world with members of every race.

I've been reading many of the posts and have concluded that I should leave this blog. The contention is deep seeded and I feel myself getting angry.

If calling Mormons racist and declaring you "know" what we believe works for you - good luck. If someone is interested in the complete truth - they should ask a Mormon.
---HappyLDS on 8/31/10


//Were Hebrews not slaves? Were there not some races that were considered less than others? // - HappyLDS

Just wow!!! Am I taking this the wrong way?

Hebrews slaves? Some races LESS than others?

White sheet anyone? Swastika?

The only ones cursed into servanthood would be the decendants of Canaan, a son of Ham, and the Hebrews are NOT from that line. Hebrews are the children of Eber who was a son of Shem.

And its not something the children of Canaan should be embarrassed about. Being a servant can be a blessing if your master treats you in Godly ways. All Christians are servants/slaves of Christ.
---JackB on 8/31/10


The book of morman contradicts the beliefs that the morman faith teaches.
Don't mormans teach that the trinity is a doctrine of man and that there is only one true God.
The Testimony of three witnesses(in the BOM)
says:And the honor be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, which is one God. Amen.
Happy or candice can you explain this?
Looks like the Trinity to me.
---JIM on 8/31/10


No it is not a contridiction, just some more scriptures to back the bible up & is Gods word.Just like the dead Sea Scrolls. Read John 21:25.
Also I have journals what the restoration church gave of past members that knew Jospeh Smith personally & they are on his side that he did not start polygamy. It was introduced through another church & some missionaries along with Bringham Young picked it up & carried it over.JSJr was gonig to expose him before his death. read the facts first from the family journals before making asumtions.
---candice on 8/31/10


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HappyLDS, I have read the Book of Mormon and witness to LDS folks. The major theme of the Book is good people turn white and bad people turn black. This is further backed up in practice by the LDS when they DID NOT allow blacks to join the priesthood until 1978. Either you have not read the Book of Mormon and know about the 1978 ruling or you are lying? Which is it?
---Alan on 8/31/10


You're right Lawrence - I meant Jacob. There were others in Biblical times that had more than one wife at a time as well. Mainstream Mormons believe in obeying the law and polygamy was stopped when Utah became a state.

Alan - have you read the BOM? There are approximately EIGHT sentences which COULD be construde as racist - EIGHT sentences out of nearly 600 pages. There is no way you could have read it and claim that racism is the main message! As far as racism not being included in the Bible, I think you are fooling yourself there as well. Were Hebrews not slaves? Were there not some races that were considered less than others?
---HappyLDS on 8/31/10


h - l d s

Abraham, once had 2 wives & that Is right, but, did he have 2 wives at once ?

These 2 missionary's were trying to share the gospel, yes the False gospel. Again you people can keep your plates made from fools gold & ministry that came from here 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15. Matt.15 v's 9 & 14.
---Lawrence on 8/30/10


I would call the Book of Mormon a poor message which mostly states that good people turn white and bad people turn black. The Book of Mormon is a racist book. Blacks were not even allowed into the Mormon priesthood until 1978 because of the color of their skin. Racism is the missing message from the Bible according to Mormons? Wow!
---Alan on 8/30/10


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//Your pastor sounds like a real peach...brow beating two young men who are simply trying to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ.//

Maybe he was concerned about the fact that these men werent teaching about OUR Jesus, but a Jesus whose Father didnt create ALL things as the scripture states, but is only the God of THIS galaxy and that there are many other gods out there.

Check into your church history to see what the founding fathers of it believed before you attend somewhere simply because they claim the name of Jesus Christ.

"For many shall come in MY name, saying, I am Christ, and shall deceive many.
---JackB on 8/30/10


One has to pretty much be born into it in order to accept its pathetic message.
---Higgins on 8/29/10

Higgins - I'm curious...what exactly is it's "pathetic message?" Do you have any clue? It teaches of Jesus Christ - of faith, baptism, repentance, the atonement and crucifixion of Jesus Christ. It explains the importance of obeying the commandments...you know - the same message we receive in the Bible. Do you call the message of the Bible "pathetic" as well. I think attacking something you know nothing about is pathetic!

I wasn't born into it. I accepted the Gospel of Jesus Christ when I heard it. I know that the message of the Book of Mormon is true - I don't need physical "proof".
---HappyLDS on 8/30/10


Just like my Pastor said the other day, when 2 mormons come & knock on his door he says sorry, I have no time to listen to people that has allowed to have more than 1 spouse, they turn & walk away.
---Lawrence on 8/29/10

Your pastor sounds like a real peach...brow beating two young men who are simply trying to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I guess he would have turned Abraham away as well - he once had two wives. All that's necessary is a no, thank you. Many on this blog use the same hate filled tone - I do my best to ignore them though sometimes it's impossible. Those boys are much smarter than I am!

I'll be away for a few days so please enjoy yourselves in my absence.
---HappyLDS on 8/29/10


Great question, Pedro!

The answer is no one uses the book of mormon except those who have been brainwashed by its doctine of devils. This is to say that the scientific community, schools, authentic Christian churches, etc, will not use it because its contents are heavily flawed, lacks truth, and its doctrines are in opposition with known fact and Holy Scripture. One has to pretty much be born into it in order to accept its pathetic message.
---Higgins on 8/29/10


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Higgins' reply (Part 2)

One can argue whether Holy Scripture is true, but all the peoples and places listed therein are well-known and geographically reliable. Please tell me where the fictitious mormon city of "Bountiful" is located, where its 1,000,000 inhabitants once roamed? And then tell me why none of their neighbors ever tell stories of this major Hebrew civilization?

And while you're at it, tell me where its ruins lay, where its writings are, coins, pottery, weapons, burial grounds, etc, etc, etc?

The book of mormon should be nestled in the library somewhere between the Chronicles of Narnia and The Lord of the Rings. The reason no one uses it is because it has no real value and adds nothing of substance.
---Higgins on 8/29/10


Sorry h - l d s

There was NO church before The Church of The living God according to Acts 2 v 38 on The Day of Pentecost.

For the mormons Is just another Man - made offspring church that is here, Rev.17 v's 4 - 6. You people keep your fools gold plates.

Just like my Pastor said the other day, when 2 mormons come & knock on his door he says sorry,
I have no time to listen to people that has allowed to have more than 1 spouse, they turn & walk away.
---Lawrence on 8/29/10


Sorry, Lawrence - read your "evidence" a second time just to be sure. It said nothing about plates of gold, new scripture or even future prophets. It did say that Satans ministers can be transformed as ministers of righteousness. I'm always intrigued by why it has to be the Mormons (or JWs) that have been deceived!?! Mormonism is more in line with early Christianity (pre Nicean creed, pre Apostolic creed, etc) than any other faith. Here's something to ponder: what if creedal Christians are the people being fooled? I believe that's very likely the case.
---HappyLDS on 8/28/10


h - l d s

For 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 ( angel of deceiving light ) gave man the idea for those golden - plates. Guess what?, those plates Are made of fools gold & you people sure have been fooled.
---Lawrence on 8/28/10


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Ethnology.

Every Christian should read up on it so theres no confusion.

Genocide has been committed by men counting on the ignorance of others.
---JackB on 8/28/10


The message of the Book of Mormon can be pretty much summed up in 2 Nephi 31:19-21. If a reader really wants to know this answer to the blog question he or she should look it up. Does that message contradict the Bible? As for why other Christian groups don't use it...I guess it's because they would then have to admit that God continues to reveal His secrets to prophets - just as He did during Biblical times. They would have to admit that Joseph Smith was such a prophet. Many pastors, preacher. ministers, etc. would be out of a job.
---HappyLDS on 8/28/10


Lawrence - OR maybe it came from Rev 14:6. And maybe it is the "stick of Joseph" as written about in Ezekial 37:16-19. And maybe it's existence was foretold in Isaiah 29:11,12. I would suggest reading the verses prior to 2 Tim 3:7. I believe that verses 1 -7 describe the conditions which existed after the apostles were gone and men started omitting doctrines of Christ, changing them and making their own up...particularly verse 5...I would suggest that describes many churches in existence today. The only way to find out if the Book of Mormon is true is to read it for yourself. Many accuse Mormons of being mindless robots - but it is they who choose to believe the words of someone else without reading it for themselves.
---HappyLDS on 8/28/10


For the book of mormon came from here 2nd.Cor.11 v's 14 - 15 & their results Are here 2nd.Tim. 3 v 7.
---Lawrence on 8/26/10


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Andrea: Regardless of your concerns regarding its origin, the core doctrine in the BoM is that we must come unto Christ to be saved, for we have all sinned and Christ is the only being who can cleanse that sin. As stated in Alma 21:9: "There could be no redemption for mankind save it were through the death and sufferings of Christ, and the atonement of his blood." Jesus Christ is the sole source of redemption and salvation!
---Deen on 11/21/07


Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon
he also married 33 women
11 still married to other men
impregnated his adopted daughter (age 16)
didn't tell his wife he was a polygamist for a long time
church hid polygamy for years
JSmith was killed in a gun battle he killed another man
He said Indians were lost tribe of Isreal - been proven a fraud by DNA evidence
what else do you people need????
---Andrea on 11/21/07


Aaron: First note that the BoM teaches that Christ is completely different from ANY of us because he is the "ONLY Begotten of the Father." See, for example, Jacob 4:11 which states: "Be reconciled unto God through the sacrifce of Christ, his ONLY Begotten Son" (Jacob 4:11). The message that Christ is the ONLY Begotten of God permeates the BoM. It means he is our God and Lord. We can ONLY be saved through him.
---Deen on 11/16/07


Aaron: Second, note that Christ took upon himself a tabernacle of clay and dwelt among men. Because he did, Paul testifies that he is "touched with the feeling of our infirmities, and was in all points tempted as we are" (Hebrews 4:15). So yes, "God was once as we are now." That is, he took upon himself flesh and blood. BUT, he is without sin and we are not. He was the Word who was with God, who came from God, and who WAS God (see John 1), and we are not.
---Deen on 11/16/07


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Elder, omnipotent means "all" powerful. Christ is all powerful in many ways. Perhaps most importantly, in that it's only in and through Christ our Lord (Master and Redeemer) that we can be saved. We can't "earn" our way to heaven on our own through good works. As the last page of the BoM reads: "If you deny not Christ's power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the GRACE of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ."
---Deen on 11/16/07


OK Deen, tell us where this Jesus you speak of came from.
Please explain what Lord means and Omnipotent also.
Do you believe that as He is you shall be and as you are He once was?
---Elder on 11/15/07


Joseph Smith taught that God was once a human being like us, and became God:
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret... It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God and to know...that he was once a man like us..." (from the "King Follett Discourse" TJS 342-343, also JoD 6:3-4)
---aaron on 11/15/07


Elder, keeping the blog's focus on the BoM, the following BoM verse might clarify what the book teaches about Christ: "For behold, the time cometh, and is not far distant, that with power, the Lord Omnipotent who reigneth, who was, and is from all eternity to all eternity, shall come down from heaven among the children of men, and shall dwell in a tabernacle of clay." (Mosiah 3:5). As indicated, the book testifies he is the Lord God Ominipotent from "all eternity to all eternity."
---Deen on 11/15/07


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Deen why does the Mormons believe that Jesus is a created being? Why believe that you can also become a god with your own universe? How about the spirit children issue? The protective underwear is another issue. Then the correct meaning of biblical words like Redemption, Salvation ect issues.
If the Mormons want to be called Christians so much why don't they drop all the false lies and become Christians?
---Elder on 11/14/07


Kraus: I agree Galatians 1:8 is a central point here. The key issue then becomes whether the BoM is preaches the same gospel or a different gospel. The core doctrine in the BoM is that we cannot be redeemed without "unshaken faith in Jesus Christ, relying wholly upon the merits of him who is mighty to save," and "there is none other way nor name given under heaven whereby man can be saved." (2 Nephi 31: 19, 21). Is this message the same or different from the message in the Bible?
---Deen on 11/14/07


Elder, you indicate the BoM is wrong because it doesn't recognize Christ as the all-mighty Creator. But there are many verses in the BoM like this one: "And he shall be called Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning, and his mother shall be called Mary." Mosiah 3:8. These verses don't simply sound like good moral thoughts. They witness that Christ is the Eternal God of heaven and earth.



---Deen on 11/14/07


Darlene, you are most welcome. An updated edition of Mr. Shields' book is coming out next year.
---John1944 on 11/14/07


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This is a man made religion and has no foundation at all to do with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It's about the man Joseph and his great(EVIL) idea to start a religion that exhaults his name and beliefs. Stick to the word of God (HOLY BIBLE) Greek/Latin translations for the truth.
---Carla5754 on 11/14/07


dean- it doesnt matter that the BOM may encourage good values. my book says Gal 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
the whole basis of the book is "another gospel of Jesus Christ" what ever else it is, its in direct oppoisition of the Bible.
---Kraus on 11/14/07


John,thanks so much. You helped me expand my knowledge a bit more and yes it was interesting to find out more about the Mormon Church,to me, especially because my cousin married a Mormon, & my husbands cousin was married to one. The last one and I talked a lot about our differing beliefs. Usually one only hears about their many wives,her grandfather had 3. The most interesting was how they keep a ledger of all answered prayer to pass down in the family for encouragement for future generations.
---Darlene_1 on 11/14/07


Deen, your statement would sound persuading to those who do not know anything about the Mormons.
Yes, much is spoken about Jesus but who does the Mormons say He is? They say He is a created being and brother of Satan.
The Bible says He is the creator and All Mighty God. Maybe you have been tricked and don't understand. The Mormon Jesus will do you no good. You will die lost trusting the "other Jesus" of the Mormon "faith."
---Elder on 11/14/07


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Darlene, you are correct in all you wrote in your response to me. Mr. Shields has been a bishop in The Community of Christ, formerly known as the Reorganized LDS Church. They publish his book, which is actually fascinating reading. The RLDS church rejected polygamy and has no secret temple rites. Blessings to you!
---John1944 on 11/14/07


John, I found several sources on Internet which referred to the Book,the Restoration plus Mormon Church History. It did say there were many Mormon Sects which pulled away fron the main Church of Mormon,but were still all Mormon Churches although doctrines changed. They weren't actually other Denominations and none listed any main stream churches as having formed from Mormonism. I assume the author of the book was Mormon since book was recommended by some Mormon sites. Glad to know you aren't Mormon.
---Darlene_1 on 11/13/07


John,thank you for the information I will try to find the book. I am most interested to see what it says.
---Darlene_1 on 11/13/07


Whatever the views regarding its origin, the BoM constantly encourages readers to believe in Christ, e.g., "We talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, ... so that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins." (2 Nephi 25:26). The book is filled with verses like this (see, e.g., Alma chapter 36 where the whole chapter indicates we are sinners and can only be saved through Christ).
---Deen on 11/13/07


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Darlene, here is the source you asked me for, a book: Divergent Paths of the Restoration, by Steven L. Shields, a historian. By the way, I am not a Mormon. Blessings to you.
---John1944 on 11/13/07


Sorry,John 1944, but I don't believe for a moment there are 300 Denominations who use the Book of Mormon as scripture. May I please have the source of that information? If they are branches of the Mormon Church they wouldn't count as another Denomination.
---Darlene_1 on 11/13/07


although the mormons have split into as many as 300 sects - mormons are considered a religion not a christian denomination.
So they have 300 sects that use the BOM in Mormonism.
They call their god(s) Jesus ftather HS but they are literally from another planet (Kolob)
---Andrea on 11/13/07


I find this statement outrageously shocking to me!!
"There are some 300 denominations that use the Book of Mormon as scripture.
---John1944 on 11/12/07"
Folks, this is an indication of how far and how fast we are falling. The apostate churche is not coming, as my friend said, the apostate church is here now!!!
---Mima on 11/13/07


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There are some 300 denominations that use the Book of Mormon as scripture.
---John1944 on 11/12/07


The BOm has had over 4000 changes and they are making a major one this year. It is a story book 1/3 of it is the KJV bible with typo errors, brackets and all
---Andrea on 11/12/07


No other Christian groups? Can you name one that does? The Mormon Church certainly is not a Christian church. It is a religion that throws the name of Jesus around but so do other non-christian religions.
---Bruce5656 on 6/3/07


Yes. Because it's not Christian. Dan has numerous, informative posts on here. Read them all. BOM is plagiarized from the Bible in many places, rest is a fictious story. Mormons believe they are "New Jews", married in heaven, "gods", and Jesus is the brother of satan. Many other falsehoods too numerous for 85 words.
---Rachel on 8/9/06


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All Christian groups accept the Bible as the SOLE authority of their faith.
---ralph on 7/27/06


The reasons for this are many. If one accepts BoM, then there are MANY other books one is bound to accept.

Joseph Smith was a good story teller who, like sience fiction wroter L Ron Hubbard created his own religion, Scientology. Many deluded souls fell into both.

See the blog for more details http://christianblogs.christianet.com/1141963245.htm#1153628965158160
---John_T on 7/22/06


The Book of Mormon contradicts the Bible because it is man-made.
---Susie on 7/21/06


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