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Definition Of Prosperity Gospel

Can I get a clearer, Holy Spirit led definition of the so called prosperity gospel because I am really getting confused?

Moderator - It's a false gospel that places too much focus on giving to get and sow a seed to get. I would be glad to answer any specific questions as I extremely familiar with the doctrines.

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The recipients are responsible for how they use the money, not the giver. Presumably no Christian would donate money for people to have abortions. Luke 6:30 said "Give to every man that asks you." "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing...." Matthew 6:34. 2Corintians 9:7 "Every man according as he purposes in his heart, so let him give, not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loves a cheerful giver...." See also 2Corintians 9: 10-14.
---bettyw on 3/27/09


bettyw: "Giving money away is good, no matter what reason. God knows the heart. Even men and women of the ancient days did that."

On the contrary, people donate money to causes that are against God - abortion, for instance. People donate money to televagalists who preach a different gospel - Mike Murdock, Marily Hickey, Joel Osteen, Paul Crouch, Tim LaHaye to name just a few.

Your #3 reason should not be a reason. A christian shouldn't expect anything in return. This is why most christians never receive "an abundance" in return. It's a selfish reason.

When donating you ask yourself a question: "Does it glorify God?" The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
---Steveng on 3/26/09


Giving money away is good, no matter what reason. God knows the heart. Even men and women of the ancient days did that.

Reason #1 for giving - somebody needs it.

Reason #2 - a man or woman needs to do good.

Reason #3 - God gives back anyway, somehow.
---bettyw on 3/25/09


All born again children of God equally share everything freely given by God. Our salvation is a gift from God. We receive all good things pertaining to life and all His magnificent promises. God loves all His children the same and shows no favoritism. He gave us the Holy Spirit that we might know all the things He freely gives us. We all are heirs and we inherit the same portion. Christ bought and paid for our inheritance with His precious blood. God loves all His children and wants only the best for them. Over the years I concluded only those who preach prosperity prospers. This teaching is basically saying you can buy things from God. One can't serve God and mammon.
---Bob on 3/24/09


Linda: ""Give up your wealth and follow Me" was spoken to the rich, young ruler, not the believer."

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16)

So, the story of the rich fellow also is spoken to the believer.
---Steveng on 3/24/09




GOD, made some people rich in the Bible. Abraham for one. David, Job. I believe not any of those great men and women of God in the Bible, especially in the Old Testament was exactly living in POVERTY! Vanity>>>may keep God from blessing some, because God knows each and everyone's weaknesses.
---catherine on 3/24/09


****The Prosperity Gospel basically is: planting a seed(money of any amount)(sowing) to fulfill a need in your life(reaping).If you need healing, a loved one saved, a job.. anything. You plant a money seed and reap the benefit(the need has been provided by God. Robyn***

Not according to the parable of the seed and the 4 soils. No one planted the seed of money in any of those to reap. God doesn't need our money to bring His promises to pass.

God's WORD is the Seed, not money. We live by the faith of Christ,in His Promises, not the principles of wall street.

2 Peter 1 tells us we have EVERYTHING we need that pertain to life and Godliness through His precious promises.

Giving to GET is self!!
---kathr4453 on 3/24/09


The prosperity gospel is based on scripture. God blesses those who want God and who do His will. There are other definitions, but this is mine.
---bettyw on 3/23/09


Beverly, the prosperity Gospel is LAW based. What I mean is, in the OT, obedience was based on if you wil then I will. There were blessings and cursings associated. The Blessings were Earthly blessings...prosperity for one.

Those who are teaching a Prosperity Gospel also are teaching we are the New Israel...that we are still under OT conditions.

The Church UNDER GRACE....however is blessed with Christ in Heavenly places...and our riches are IN CHRIST, not in eathly prosperity. It's actually the opposite of OT....we are the off-scoffing of the world...hated, persecuted etc!!!
---kathr4453 on 3/23/09


The gospel of prosperity is not dollar based. It is love based. The whole process is His love for us (He loved us when we were yet sinners and sent His Son to die that we might know Him) and our expression of love for Him is giving out of a loving heart. He is our Father, so we are not "buying" His prosperity. It is a gift that comes with salvation. He has promised us all things that pertain to our Godliness and to our peace. The gospel of prosperity covers the whole spectrum of life. "I would that you prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers."
---Beverly on 3/23/09




The Prosperity Gospel basically is: planting a seed(money of any amount)(sowing) to fulfill a need in your life(reaping).If you need healing, a loved one saved, a job.. anything. You plant a money seed and reap the benefit(the need has been provided by God.There is no time limit on the reaping.God moves in His own time. This sums it up.Does it work? Yes it can and does work if you believe(have faith). What we sow we shall reap.The bible tells us that.
---Robyn on 9/29/07


Why do we worship God? Do we worship Him and give to Him just to get something back in return? Absolutely NOT. We worship Him in Spirit and truth, because we love and adore Him. We worship Him because He is our HOLY and RIGHTEOUS GOD. He has already given us His Son, Jesus Christ so that we could have eternal life. Oh how much our love should be for Him just because of who He is. Amen...
---Cynthia on 9/29/07


Linda:

Planting a dollar and trusting God to do whatever he wants with it (sometimes paying back tenfold or a hundredfold, and sometimes not) is good stewardship.

Planting a dollar and EXPECTING 10 or 100 or 1000 is treating God as a magic slot machine in the sky. Especially when NOT getting it throws someone into a state of confusion or depression or self-doubt (because "obviously my faith wasn't strong enough"), or anger at God ("because he didn't keep his promises").
---StrongAxe on 9/29/07


1 Timothy 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing we will be content with that. People who wnat to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
---the_watchman on 9/29/07


StrongAxe~somehow planting a dollar and expecting 10 sounds like putting a limit on God. He is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all we could ask or think. The bottom line is that when one sows, he sows from the heart. Everything else is just scattering. What I believe God about is in the "above" dimension such as a greater desire and willingness to give.
---Linda on 9/28/07


Willingness, I believe, will always precede ability as people first give themselves to the Lord and then unto the ministering saints according to the will of God.
---Linda on 9/28/07


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Simply believing God for the physical aspect of sowing and reaping, to me, limits Him to the physical realm and is failure to sanctify the Lord God in your heart and trust Him for heart things.
---Linda on 9/28/07


Linda.

Very right.

When we plant physical seeds, we have no control over them or expectation from them - just that sometimes they bloom, sometimes they don't.

When we "sow seeds" metaphorically, sometimes we get lucky and end up reaping a great harvest. Sometimes not. It's all good. But it is very materialistic to "expect" (or worse, "demand") that the process work like a bank or a speculative stock investment ("give a dollar to get ten back")
---StrongAxe on 9/28/07


"Give up your wealth and follow Me" was spoken to the rich, young ruler, not the believer. There is a reason Jesus said that to him. He was a doer of the Law and really thought he had something to boast of. Jesus cut to the heart of the matter and that was his wealth. The important thing here is that the man was already wealthy before he met Jesus and had, I am sure, grown to love and depend upon that wealth for his provision and status.
---Linda on 9/27/07


Remember, he was young (immature) also. Money is not the root of all evil. The love of it is. And I don't say all that because I have a lot of money. However, rich in the wisdom and knowledge of God will bring wealth to every part of your life, and if the wealth of God begins in your spirit and takes root in your soul, I dare say there wouldn't be much problem with loving the money. A person in that humble position, though wealthy in every area, knows its place and what it is good for.
---Linda on 9/27/07


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"I Dollar Tree"(Idolatry) sums it all up, the fruit that deceives is the same today, satan figured it out, I can take this tree and make then worship it through its fruit. he used a paper tree, and men now worship it (see Isaiah 44:15-20)(may read earlier versus also)
---Lisa on 9/27/07


Jesus never promised us an easy life.
He said give up your wealth to follow Him.
He said lay not up treasure on earth.
Those who get prosperous on the prosperity gospel message are usually just the leaders.
---alan8869_of_UK on 8/25/07


The Bible says that we can prosper as our soul prospers. If we are starved for a spiritual experience with the Lord we will be starved in all parts of our life even if we are millionaires. The money would not matter because it won't make anyone happy or give anyone eternal life. In the end, we all die with two options afterwards.
---Susie on 3/24/07


A scary thought: Judas sold out Jesus for money. I know there is more to that, but that is a fact as well. Jesus threw the merchants out of the temple, selling sacrifices. Yes i'm sure they put up their own money to buy them first. i just don't think we are even to SELL God's Word, and become rich. How to have the Power of God for 3 easy payments of $19.99 is such a turn off.
---kathr4453 on 7/29/06


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Prosperity teachers teach that God's will for His children is to be financially wealthy as well as spiritually and physically blessed. There is a strong emphasis on claiming cars, houses etc. by faith. Some say that Jesus was wealthy on earth, though Scriptural evidence is the opposite. They take passages about spiritual "abundance" and "riches" to pertain to financial wealth. Verses they use are scattered throughout the Bible, largely taken out of context.
---Donna2277 on 7/27/06


Many have used the OT promises of obedience for blessings (earthly blessing) that were ment for Israel, and apply them to the Church. Esau is a warning to us. Many are selling their birthright for the hear and now. Those earthly blessings in the OT, somehow have transformed themselves into spiritual blessings for us, becomming the Riches in Christ Jesus. We do need to be careful.
---kathr4453 on 7/27/06


true prosperity is spiritual growth. to become more like jesus everyday.Then you are rich.
---tom2 on 7/26/06


The "Prosperity Gospel" is a false teaching that centers up on money. It teaches people to give money to the preacher and that you will then prosper, which is a lie which the word of God does not teach. God is my Father and He supplies all my need, and I do not have to give Him anything for Him to supply for me except to believe Him.
---Helen_5378 on 7/22/06


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