Is There A Poverty Gospel
Is there such a thing as Poverty Gospel as opposed to Prosperity Gospel. Give examples of Poverty Gospel preachers.
Moderator - Some people have a poverty mentality, but not gospel.
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Because it is divisive, I'm hesitent to mention it, but there actually is a poverty Gospel. It's called Liberation Theology. It's adherents are the poor (in truth or in imagination) who see the Gospel as the liberating force for oppressed peoples.
There are many geographical and sociological branches, all believing in the special religious character of the poor as objects of God's particular love and the source of religious insights.
There are Latin American liberation theologians and Black liberation theologists who say their poverty-stricken people have been oppressed and exploited by rich nations and racist whites. There are even Feminist liberation theologians whose concern is liberation of women in a male-dominated society.
---Donna66 on 11/20/08|
****Is there such a thing as Poverty Gospel as opposed to Prosperity Gospel. Give examples of Poverty Gospel preachers.***
Don't know about preachers but here's a sermon:
I believe if there is one it reads..
Jesus became POOR that we might be rich in His Grace and Mercy
For everything else their's Mastercard.
However, our Blessings IN CHRIST are not on CREDIT!!!
In the OT it was on credit....in the NT we live on a Debit Card. The Spirit of the Life of Christ who set you free from the Law of sin and Death is ready for you to draw on now!!!!
WE receive the Riches IN CHRIST...
One great one is WISDOM.... More Precious than Rubies, God tells us!!!
---kathr4453 on 11/20/08|
"If any will come after me, let him deny himself, take up His cross and follow me."
Jesus also told a rich man, "If you will be perfect, sell all you have, give it to the poor, and you will have treasures in heaven."
He said, "It is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of Heaven."
"Foxes have holes, and the birds of the air their nests, but the Son of Man does not have a place to lay His head."
---Jack on 11/18/08|
There are passage that say do not lay treasures up on earth, and give your money to the poor, or feed the hungry.
But these passages do not say give your money to make rich pastors richer. I don't think any pastor, even if it is his church or mimistry, should have control of the funds received. That make him rich and the followers poor.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/21/07|
Detachment from the things of this world for the sake of spreading the gospel is gospel poverty. It is a simplified lifestyle that takes seriously that all treasures that last are best stored up in heaven. "Poverty gospel" by the very placement of the words makes for a different meaning all together.
---Joseph on 2/10/07|
John T: right on the mark.
---Benny on 8/8/06|
Any adjective placed in fron of a noun changes the noun entirely.
Thus, when you talk about prosperity Gospel, or Poverty Gospel,etc. you cange the ENTIRE meaning of the Gospel.
NEITHER ARE THE TRUE GOSPEL
---JOHN_T on 8/2/06|
**The priest out with his hand saying,"give" and only giving platitudes in return? That is th prosperity gospel.**
Mike, I've noticed that Protestant preachers are pretty efficient at sticking out their hands and asking for money, too.
And every prospterity/seed faith preacher I've heard has taught that his wallet is the field you're supposed to sow your dollars into.
---Jack on 7/28/06|
It is written..3 John 2 Beloved I wish above all you to be in heath and PROSPER evan as your SOUL prospers. Malachi 3:10 Bring your tithes to the storehouse and prove me now says the Lord..I will open you the windows of heaven and pour you a blessing that there shall not be room enought to receive it.
---Terry on 7/27/06|
Mike ... I think that on several occasions Jack has told us that he is not a Roman Catholic.
---alan8869_of_UK on 7/27/06|
Read my lips.
I'm not a Roman Catholic.
I never have been a Roman Catholic.
I have repeatedly said I'm not RC, and have never presented myself as such.
How can you explain the obscene wealth of pop-evangelical mega-churches with their highly paid pastors? HMMMMMM??????
The truth is that just about anybody's local parish church is almost as poor as Job's turkey. Maybe they can pay the bills, but that's about it.
---Jack on 7/27/06|
"... If the Vatican sold all its artworks, they would bring in hundreds of millions of dollars -- but only once. Then they would be gone, and that money wouldn't go very far. (In the U.S. alone we spend hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars each year on welfare-related programs.) Second, the popes are custodians, not owners. They have a responsibility to preserve these [bequeathed/donated] artistic treasures for posterity, not to sell them off to private collections."
---augusta on 7/27/06|
"Jack, how do you as a Catholic reconcile the obscene wealth of the RCC, in the middle of mass poverty?"
Are you serious?? Catholic Charities is the largest private charity in the US.
I'll quote Karl Keating for the rest:
"The wealth of the Church is almost entirely in church buildings, hospitals, schools, and missions, plus artworks. You could sell off the artworks, but the proceeds wouldn't feed the poor of the world for even a day.
---augusta on 7/27/06|
Jack, how do you as a Catholic reconcile the obscene wealth of the RCC, in the middle of mass poverty? The priest out with his hand saying,"give" and only giving platitudes in return? That is th prosperity gospel.
---mike8384 on 7/27/06|
IMO they are both bologna. Every problem in this world is due to people going to the extreme. We have a few basic necessities in order to survive, most of which are bought with money. So we need SOME money. The Bible says not to be a lover of money, and put it before God. It's a balance. It's putting God first regardless your income. Some men make a lot, some make barely enough. That's not the issue, the issue is the heart. Who is your God? THAT is what we need to examine, not our pocketbook.
---Katie on 7/27/06|
**Having vast amounts of money does not seem to make people happy but going hungry doesn't either.**
The NT standard is SUFFICIENCY, not superfluity.
As the Apostle said, "Having food and raiment, let us therewith be content."
---Jack on 7/27/06|
Poverty is definitely a curse, not a blessing. Some people would make a "gospel" out of anything though. God wants to bless His children.
---Helen_5378 on 7/27/06|
2. We should be sensible with money (being good stewards of all God gives us)if we are capable of earning any, only depending on others if we cannot look after ourselves, and use any extra we have to look after those who cannot look after themselves. Fat wallets and huge banks accounts do not help anyone, even ourselves unless we are prepared to take it out and use it for good.
---M.P. on 7/27/06|
The bible tells us that 'where your treasure is, there will your heart be also'. We live in a world where it is impossible to survive without money, if we have none at all we could starve to death, but there is a limit on how much anyone needs. Having vast amounts of money does not seem to make people happy but going hungry doesn't either.
---M.P. on 7/27/06|
So, PKay, what do YOU think--and how does the actual words of Jesus mesh with what prosperity preachers say?
---Jack on 7/26/06|